Why the fascination with Kimmer? #6

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by SMP

OK, colour me , but WAY, WAY back in these threads, didn't someone post that that was an actual pix of Heidi back when she was in her 20's? I thought her son's ex or Hector sort of confirmed it, but the only way for it to be true was that she had just dieted it all off, and this was the 30 seconds before she started gaining it back. Anybody else remember something like this?

Anybody?

Rats.I prolly forgot to take my anti-Kimmer meds again!

No, I don't recall that at all.

[jayed]

Originally Posted by JustKim

the athletic trainer in me wants to know exactly what his knee injury was that "changed the course of his career" too

Was that before or after the 20-30 triathlons per year?

[Violet Skye]

But then, any dude who signs up to counsel for a plan that, if googled, will be exposed as something mighty iffy is not a dude in which I place much confidence for being prudent.

Word! Doesn't speak much for his research skills, does it?

[LindaJ]

Oh, Kim ... the Dr. McGoofy ... ... PLEASE don't let it get your BP up!!

[Khewes]

If he was on the up and up, he would have given his last name. If he was a real 3-D person. I was in the medical field for 17 years,and I can't imagine any sort of physician, holisitic, or not, that would endorse something without his full name.

If he's a "Doctor", I'm a "Beauty Queen".
Where's my darn crown?

Kim, please don't let this get to you. Those of us here who have either stopped, or never drank the kool-aid know you are on the up-and- up and stand by your credentials.

[jayed]

Originally Posted by SMP

OK, colour me , but WAY, WAY back in these threads, didn't someone post that that was an actual pix of Heidi back when she was in her 20's? I thought her son's ex or Hector sort of confirmed it, but the only way for it to be true was that she had just dieted it all off, and this was the 30 seconds before she started gaining it back. Anybody else remember something like this?

Anybody?

Rats.I prolly forgot to take my anti-Kimmer meds again!

I believe Hector said the photo of the young woman in the white shirt sitting on the couch was Heidi in her 20s.

ETA: This was the first photo that Heidi tried to pass off as an "after."

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by Princess Dieter

The Princess <--whose hair now looks mightily kicking good...at last!

Princess I'm so glad about your hair. I was worried about you and your hair, ya know. I always do that thing where I put gel in my wet hair and wait just a bit to blow-dry it. But then I get busy doing something and it gets too dry... so I have to re-wet it and start over again. Saturday I went through that routine 3 times. Medusa snakes is right!

[jayed]

The National Oriental Medicine Accreditation Agency requires 800 hours of study. 800 hours. That's 20 weeks (at 40 hrs/wk). Does that seem ridiculously low to anyone else?

[hippiegirl]

Originally Posted by jayed

I believe Hector said the photo of the young woman in the white shirt sitting on the couch was Heidi in her 20s.

ETA: This was the first photo that Heidi tried to pass off as a "before."

I concur.

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by dointhis4me

WOW, what kind of dr has time to sit around and post on a proven scam website I worked in the medical field for years and REAL doctors are very busy people This story keeps getting more and more bizaar!

Great point, dointhis.... no real doctor has time to run a practice, keep up with all the current research and inservices, run 20-30 triathalons a year (lots of training time there), and still have time to run medical interference on Scamkins' website.

[EasyPeas]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

Hey now-they may be taking the online course as we speak!

Well I hope that online course includes spelling lessons for Tippy.

[Rose1271]

Originally Posted by GinaC

Here's my credentials!

You are cracking me up!!!

[Diana]

what happens if I'm not hungry? 5 Minutes ago
Funny thing, I find that I am forcing myself to actually eat. Half the day goes by and I am not at all hungry. At least that's what I think til I force myself to eat. Than I want to keep on munching. What's that about?! Is this a "normal" experience?
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Re:what happens if I'm not hungry? 0 Minutes ago
Yes. This is called ketosis. But do make yourself eat according to the plans or you may end up feeling bad. Try to keep calories to at minimal of at least 800 each day

Yes please keep yourself at starvation levels.. you didn't need those muscles or bones did you?

[rhlong]

so I am guessing Dr. Mark is Kimmer? right?

The language doesn't sound like a man talking. Unless Mark refers to the last name and it is a woman. But anyway The communication style seems like a woman.

[OhYeahBabe]

Originally Posted by Diana

Yes please keep yourself at starvation levels.. you didn't need those muscles or bones did you?

Well, muscles and bones are heavy... they weigh far more per pound than other body parts.

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by GinaC

Here's my credentials!

Gina, Gina, Gina...Everyone knows that the Division of Awesomeness hasn't awarded a specialty degree in "Awesomeness" since 1992, when it subdivided the Awe categories as follows:

Bachelor of Splendiferousness (B.S.)
Bachelor of AbFabulosity (B.A)*
Master's in ZingyDangyDangYeahOhYeah (M.Z.)
Master's in SuperRighteousness (M.S.)
and the highly coveted:
Doctor of MegaCool (M.D.)

Doctors of Megacool can treat all ailments afflicting one's personal pizzazz and prescribe intensive personality boosters and emergency fashion dos, but only on the trendiest, snazziest stationery with appropriate emoticons. They can also counsel patients on the best and most character- illuminating use of avatars and assorted techno-doohickeys.

Pertinent Academic Trivia: Heidi flunked out her junior year and never got her B.A. (*see above). The concerted effort at awesomeness was beyond her skills set.

She has, however, qualified via life experience for an Honorary Doctorate in FlimFlammery, with special honors for Creative Fibbery and International Pilfering. Her diploma will be printed in Kiev by several of her nearest and dearest single female friends.




The Princess

[Maid of Erin]

Originally Posted by Weedydidi

More doctors who endorse the Kimkins Diet Plan:

Dr. Zhivago, Dr. My Eyes, Dr. Who, Dr. Demento, Baby Doc Duvalier, Dr. Scholls, and Dr. Marcus Welby, MD

Dr. Pepper, Dr. Seuss, Dr. Evil

[Diana]

Originally Posted by Diana

Yes please keep yourself at starvation levels.. you didn't need those muscles or bones did you?

Originally Posted by OhYeahBabe

Well, muscles and bones are heavy... they weigh far more per pound than other body parts.

Right, so lets lose the heaviest weight first, worry about health concerns after you destroy your body!

[Randy]

Originally Posted by GinaC

Here's my credentials!

Hey Gina, I'm not saying that you're Awesomeness degree is a fake, but here in The Peach State, it's The University of Georgia, NOT Georgia University.

And considering everything...maybe your degree is from The Republic of Georgia, in Russia?

[MissMerize]

KarenG,

There has been some debate about the fat levels on atkins. Personally for me, exposure to long term excessive fat has made me break out like a teenager.

Anyway, anyone here can keep looking, and eventually we all find the doctor who tells us what we want to hear.

I did not feel good eating more fat. I did what felt good. I then was sure to cover my arse when something changed that didn't seem right. Hence, upping the supplements.

I think Krazy Kimmer came across something, no not starvation, but there is a line which has given some of us success. That immediate result (which is substantial) can be a great motivator.
There are things that can be learned as a positive result. Perhaps a happy fusion of low carb, low fat, high supplement, and light fitness plan (geeze, sounds too much like a diet).


And what about all the studies they are doing now with people really reducing their caloric intake below normal to extent their life span??? Will scientist change their mind about what should be normal?

[CatieTN]

Hi guys! Just wanted to stop in and thank you all for this thread~I have been following this "saga" unfold since Day 1. I remember Kimmer from many years ago~she was idiolized over in the Main Lobby regarding her weight loss and her younger looking skin advice.

Anyways~back to lurkdom, just wanted to say: KUTGW!

[Princess Dieter]

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

No, I don't recall that at all.

Yes, someone did post that they thought that oldish snapshot was a younger Heidi.

I don't think so. Unless Heidi was way prettier and had different teeth and a helluva lot of hair when she was 20+. The gal in that pic's face and her teeth don't seem to go with the before of Heidis that I've seen.

But then, maybe she just aged really badly.

The Princess

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by MissMerize

I just posted a little something and I meant to put it over here so here's a cut and paste and I will apologize up front for being repetitive.
This is a wild bunch in here and I can hear the flack already.
Here goes again, and no, MissMerize is not my real name, or the name I use at kimkins.
Hi all,
This thread (fascination) was brought to my attention a few months ago, but I just couldn't take it too seriously at the time as my personal before and after pics had a lot of double takes.
I was on plan for about 4 months (losing 50 in the first 3) , and near the end or goal weight I found myself very in tune with my body and did up my own supplements along the way.
I took some time off, gradually added things back into my normal diet, and gained back only 5 lbs. Things leveled out for me easily.
I enjoyed my summer at a really comfortable weight, and was able to focus on taking care of other business in my life.
Just recently, I felt the time was right to jump back in before the holidays and finish up the last little bit (I'm wearing size 10 but really would like to wear 8).
I had not been into the site for a few months, and so it's only been a couple of days since I caught wind of what has recently been going on. I was able to watch the news video, and spent some time reading blogs and anti kimkins posts.
I will admit, my initial feelings were those of disbelief, betrayal, and confusion.
Then I had to dig deeper into what had just happened.
Instead of freaking out, I've decided to take those positive things from my experience and run with them. I'm a big girl. No one forced me to plunk down $40. (the price when I joined). I had 24 hours to see what was in there and determine if this was something I wanted to try. I didn't know who this kimmer was. What I did do was go into the forum and see a lot of other success stories. So whether kimmer was who she said she was or not, something was working in there. I compared the plan to the regular atkins menu. It just made sense to cut fat and loose quicker.
Dieting has a way of being frustrating, making you grumpy, and a whole host of things whether it goes fast or slow. I wanted the quick pull of the bandaid from my boo boo, not the slow and torcherous pull.
Yes, I know, it's all so surreal and freaky the whole con thing. On the flip side, the support group in there allowed me to really stay focused, and the quick loss was a true confidence booster.
Did I suffer any side effects? When I became sluggish, I took it upon myself to investigate supplements and tweek and adjust to what was going on with my body. I did eat every day. I don't feel as though I starved myself.
Yes, it said "no exercise" but that was another thing I took it upon myself to do. I will admit, that alone probably made a huge difference in keeping my metabolism going.
So now there are new owners. Some modifications are being made to the plan, and the diet plan itself is becoming a bit more sound as far as diets go.
Will I resume the plan exactly as I did it the first time? Well for one thing there is no urgency to get slim for the summer. Secondly, I have only 10 to 15 lbs to lose, not 75. I am in a new circumstance, and I will tailor the diet again to suit my personal needs.
Is this diet for everyone? Absolutely not. Is there a perfect diet? Each of us is so individual that everyone needs to tailor to their needs. There is no one perfect diet or miracle cure.
I did not follow the list to a T. I weighed out more than just myself and my food when I did the plan. I used the plan more like a guideline, not an absolute.
I did not feel that I paid for the diet. Any simpleton could figure out from the sales page that it was an atkins plan w/o the fat. My investment was for the support group that was in there. I liked the challenges and comrodary of the other members.
I am sorry for the others who are so bitter and angry. I am sorry this plan turned into such a bad experience for them. And I'm sorry it took an alleged con woman to get them off their butts and finally lose some weight.
And just so you all know - I am not on the payroll, I am not the new owner, I am just one person who had a positive experience with this plan, all because I took full responsibility in paying attention to what was going on with me.
Yes, it's extreme. But so is gastric bypass. You don't think those people have a host of problems? At least kimkins forced me to really look at labels and modify my eating. I got an enormous support group who I could fall back on.
Should supplements be recommended? Probably yes. There is room for improvement.
I don't feel the thing is a total wash.
So go ahead and confront me. I did what I felt was right for me. And I listened to my gut as I did it.

Welcome to the thread!
I am thrilled to hear that things worked for you. Honestly, I am and so will most people here. The issue is that it didn't work that way for everyone because of how the plan is written.

The other issue that we are trying to accomplish is the issue of seeing justice done. I could not watch someone that I realized was selling a product by fraudulent means continue to do so and not notify the authorities. I would do the same if a local merchant was running a scam to protect my neighbor.
Just because it is the internet made no difference, because that means she has access to more people and when you get down to it we are all neighbors.

The plan did have some good basic principles and that is because it was founded by Dr.Atkins. The internet support group is also a wonderful way to reach and maintain a goal weight.

All good ideas but taken too EXTREME BY THE OWNER of the website and also by means of fraud.
Hitler had some good ideas on leading a country but of course his extreme ways of going about it were horrendous and illegal.

I do not fault you for finding a way to use kimkins to suit you, but I don't think you should give Kimkins the credit either. The credit goes to you, because until recently you know Kimmer always said if you changed/"tweaked" it then it wasn't Kimkins. "ONLY eat what is on the list".

So if someone asks "How did you lose weight?" would you say on Kimkins?

ETA-Sorry if this has been addressed I just realized I am a copy of pages behind..

[BobbiOh]

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Re:what happens if I'm not hungry? 0 Minutes ago
Yes. This is called ketosis. But do make yourself eat according to the plans or you may end up feeling bad. Try to keep calories to at minimal of at least 800 each day

Not to be "snarky" but a PR person is the person who is the "face" of your company to press outlets, ie: news, magazines, etc. Shouldn't that person have a grasp of the English language? Her misuse of words and misspellings make my head hurt and I'm sure the folks with the journalism degrees are going....