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Old 10-03-2007, 11:19 AM   #691
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I was on page 15 and then suddenly there was a page 21, 22, 23.....I can't keep up.

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Old 10-03-2007, 11:19 AM   #692
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I want to publicly reach out to all of you who are still stuck in this place, I know how lonely and scary it is, come make that first step with me, I am scared too.......I knew full well that everyone here was trying to get the message threw, but I could not except it. This has been the hardest thing for me to admit....I am sorry
(((Kiwi8)))) Big hugs and much understanding for your situation!!!
You are very brave to admit this to yourself and to share it here with others.
Please read the other stories at Kimkins Survivors so you know you are not alone.
Also, please go get screen shots and copies of your journal for your own personal reference because I imagine they will be deleted by the staff at kimkins and you should have it.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:19 AM   #693
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Ok I can't believe whoever is posting this stuff isn't getting banned yet, is this because they are doing all that there behind the scenes work.

Wow?
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:21 AM   #695
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:23 AM   #697
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What it...what if we are all wrong and kimmer is not heidi









Just Kidding...I posted that a few weeks ago....

I keep listening to the voice over and over....just hoping its not her its the same voice...

I guess i was dupped too.
We were all punked! And we didn't even get to see Ashton Kutcher. Personally, I feel cheated....
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:24 AM   #698
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PAUSE............PAUSE.............PAUSE.......... ....PAUSE............

Well I keep hitting the PAUSE button, but I can't get this thread to pause while I catch up..
I feel your pain!

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I started KK about Aug of last year, I never really followed the diet 100%, and I know I was in here saying you should listen to your body blar blar...I have a confession to make now, and as I write this tears well in my eyes because for the first time I realize that I may have some kind of an eating disorder now, and to even admit something like this is so so very hard for me. When I joined KK, I was thrilled to see that all these people were eating so little, it was the conformation I was looking for that eating next to nothing was OK. I had gone to many diet sites and the mods there would always say " you need to eat at least 1200 cals a day" and what not...I always struggled to lose weight, my thyroid and metabolism was so screwed up, and still is. When I got the conformation I needed ( eating 300-400 cals a day was ok ) I literally went whole hog. I water fasted for 10-12 days at a time, I would simply put it back on after a month or 2.....but I learnt something that was really cool ( I thought) and that was how to vomited my food back up ( please nobody attack me here, this is hard for me to admit as it is) I always used to joke about how neat it would be if I could like go on a binge and then puke it all back up, but I never could do it, and I did try it, but I hate puking. Anyway's what I discovered is that when you lower you cals so so low as I did on the KK diet, that SNATT feeling you get, well it helps ever so much to bring on the vomit, your body starts to reject food. For the first time in my life I was able to go without food for up to 12 days and just water fast, allowing myself a cup of back coffee in the morning. I think what happens is that your digestive system shuts down, then when you try and eat, it all gets stuck in your throat and you don't even have to put your fingers down your throat to purge, it just comes out all by itself.I have also been using laxative teas, I even went a step further though, and when lax teas weren't working, well I went and purchased an enema kit, it helped to see a the numbers change on the scale, now how obsessed is that. Now for all you KK people listen up....I was here but mere hours ago defending this women to the end.....WHY.....because in all fairness I was protecting myself, protecting this form of eating that I have adapted and didn't want to admit I was wrong....this is one hard pill for me to swallow, because now I AM SCARED....I am scared of food, food has become an enemy to me......The reason that I have not lost a lot of weight on KK is because I simply put it all back on.....I have had a cycling type of diet going on, where I eat like crazy for a month to 6 weeks, then I starve myself for a month or so, and it all starts again......I started a personal journal which you can all read at KK, its called " come high or low waters" in there you can see how I am fasting, and how others were cheering me on, you can see how some were also telling me to be careful and I was like" heck no I can do this, I am focused" They took the fasting thread down, but there I had pictures posted of myself having lost 12 pounds in 8 days, I was so so proud......I hope that someone reads this and listen's to that little quiet voice in there head telling them THIS IS THE TRUTH, THE LIGHT......I am faced with learning how to eat again, eat without vomiting, eat without feeling guilty......I am not laying blame totally on KK, but for people like me that have been desperate to lose weight, this is the conformation they have been looking for to starve themselves. I too have been suffering with side effects.....losing handfuls of hair, having heart palpitations,I strange tingling down my left arm, a total loss of energy, I went and got blood test because I had lost my short term memory, I could not remember my sons birthday even and it was scary, I was suffering from insomnia and all kinds of different things. When I got my blood test back, everything was screwed up, all my female hormones, it put me into early menopause, I am 37 years old, my human growth hormone was at the age of a 97 yr old women, I kept getting rashed all over my body and I would go on antibiotics which didn't help, then I started getting all kinds of yeast infections, which I have never ever had, just a long list of things. I have many different excuses I have mustered up for these things. To come clean about the KK diet, is to come clean with yourself, and admitting I have a huge problem with food is extremely hard to do because what it means for people like me is WHAT NOW......for those who feel they haven't adapted this bad identity with food yet, just know if you continue to eat even 800 cals a day, you soon will. I want to publicly reach out to all of you who are still stuck in this place, I know how lonely and scary it is, come make that first step with me, I am scared too.......I knew full well that everyone here was trying to get the message threw, but I could not except it. This has been the hardest thing for me to admit....I am sorry





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We are surprised that the extent of their investigation was to post information from the anti-Kimmer websites. We cannot make this any more plain that I am not Heidi. She and I have been friends since high school and when I began posting on the internet nearly 10 years ago I used Heidi. As I’ve mentioned, I also use other names when writing, particularly for men’s magazines. Heidi is an owner of Kimkins.com and nothing more. How do I say this nicely? She doesn’t “care” about Kimkins. Her interests are in other areas entirely. I did not trust Catherine (former partner) and Heidi stepped in as me. She has not seen the news clip but I will be seeing her this weekend.

So why wouldn't the real Heidi have taken a look at the news clip? Why did the real Heidi say "no comment" and high tail it outta there? Wouldn't she have been confused as to why someone would be asking her such strange questions? Her reaction would have been totally different if she had no prior knowledge of the whole mess.
You can never tell enough lies to hide authenticity of the truth.
This is the stupidest thing I have heard yet coming out of Kimmer. I so agree with you Imcutierthinner!

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If that is the case (yeah) I'd hope Heidi would thank all the people who sought to bring Kimmer to justice and stop her from using her (Heidi's) name?

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Old 10-03-2007, 11:25 AM   #699
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We are surprised that the extent of their investigation was to post information from the anti-Kimmer websites. We cannot make this any more plain that I am not Heidi.
Too bad there is too much evidence out there that YOU ARE INDEED HEIDI! The Jimmy Moore interview, the PI, your own posts.

BUSTED!!!!
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:25 AM   #700
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:26 AM   #702
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Thanks so much ladies for your hugs....sending them right back at you all xxx
Kiwi8....Tracy... A day or so ago, over at Kimkins there was a post in KimmerChat questioned the monitoring of private messages. You responded with a post about "smelling duck" and that person called you out on it. You then responded with a post apologizing to that person. Tracy, know this: the person to whom you apologized REALLY appreciated it. She tried to post a response thanking you there on Kimkins, but her posting privileges were removed. Apparently her posts make Kimmer/Admins uneasy. So she then sent you a pm at Kimkins... but doubts you'll get it. She wanted you to know. You apologized to her on Kimkins, and she appreciates it. She also knows how you feel... to wake-up one day and realize that the Kimkins dream isn't real... and that "Kimmer" is no more than a narcissistic personality-disordered sociopath who cheats nice people out of money and endangers their health by instructing them to do things that she, herself, is unwiling to do...and seems to get away with it. For the time-being, at least.

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Old 10-03-2007, 11:28 AM   #703
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I started KK about Aug of last year, I never really followed the diet 100%, and I know I was in here saying you should listen to your body blar blar...I have a confession to make now, and as I write this tears well in my eyes because for the first time I realize that I may have some kind of an eating disorder now, and to even admit something like this is so so very hard for me. When I joined KK, I was thrilled to see that all these people were eating so little, it was the conformation I was looking for that eating next to nothing was OK. I had gone to many diet sites and the mods there would always say " you need to eat at least 1200 cals a day" and what not...I always struggled to lose weight, my thyroid and metabolism was so screwed up, and still is. When I got the conformation I needed ( eating 300-400 cals a day was ok ) I literally went whole hog. I water fasted for 10-12 days at a time, I would simply put it back on after a month or 2.....but I learnt something that was really cool ( I thought) and that was how to vomited my food back up ( please nobody attack me here, this is hard for me to admit as it is) I always used to joke about how neat it would be if I could like go on a binge and then puke it all back up, but I never could do it, and I did try it, but I hate puking. Anyway's what I discovered is that when you lower you cals so so low as I did on the KK diet, that SNATT feeling you get, well it helps ever so much to bring on the vomit, your body starts to reject food. For the first time in my life I was able to go without food for up to 12 days and just water fast, allowing myself a cup of back coffee in the morning. I think what happens is that your digestive system shuts down, then when you try and eat, it all gets stuck in your throat and you don't even have to put your fingers down your throat to purge, it just comes out all by itself.I have also been using laxative teas, I even went a step further though, and when lax teas weren't working, well I went and purchased an enema kit, it helped to see a the numbers change on the scale, now how obsessed is that. Now for all you KK people listen up....I was here but mere hours ago defending this women to the end.....WHY.....because in all fairness I was protecting myself, protecting this form of eating that I have adapted and didn't want to admit I was wrong....this is one hard pill for me to swallow, because now I AM SCARED....I am scared of food, food has become an enemy to me......The reason that I have not lost a lot of weight on KK is because I simply put it all back on.....I have had a cycling type of diet going on, where I eat like crazy for a month to 6 weeks, then I starve myself for a month or so, and it all starts again......I started a personal journal which you can all read at KK, its called " come high or low waters" in there you can see how I am fasting, and how others were cheering me on, you can see how some were also telling me to be careful and I was like" heck no I can do this, I am focused" They took the fasting thread down, but there I had pictures posted of myself having lost 12 pounds in 8 days, I was so so proud......I hope that someone reads this and listen's to that little quiet voice in there head telling them THIS IS THE TRUTH, THE LIGHT......I am faced with learning how to eat again, eat without vomiting, eat without feeling guilty......I am not laying blame totally on KK, but for people like me that have been desperate to lose weight, this is the conformation they have been looking for to starve themselves. I too have been suffering with side effects.....losing handfuls of hair, having heart palpitations,I strange tingling down my left arm, a total loss of energy, I went and got blood test because I had lost my short term memory, I could not remember my sons birthday even and it was scary, I was suffering from insomnia and all kinds of different things. When I got my blood test back, everything was screwed up, all my female hormones, it put me into early menopause, I am 37 years old, my human growth hormone was at the age of a 97 yr old women, I kept getting rashed all over my body and I would go on antibiotics which didn't help, then I started getting all kinds of yeast infections, which I have never ever had, just a long list of things. I have many different excuses I have mustered up for these things. To come clean about the KK diet, is to come clean with yourself, and admitting I have a huge problem with food is extremely hard to do because what it means for people like me is WHAT NOW......for those who feel they haven't adapted this bad identity with food yet, just know if you continue to eat even 800 cals a day, you soon will. I want to publicly reach out to all of you who are still stuck in this place, I know how lonely and scary it is, come make that first step with me, I am scared too.......I knew full well that everyone here was trying to get the message threw, but I could not except it. This has been the hardest thing for me to admit....I am sorry

Thank you for sharing your story. I have an ED riddled past and I'll always be recovering, so I can relate so much to what you wrote. Take it one day at a time and be good to your body. I'm glad you found us
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:28 AM   #704
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Kiwi, a very smart person (I'm sorry I forgot who) posted some very loving and good advice a few hundred pages back forgive me if I misquote but I believe it was..........."feed yourself like you would feed someone you love"

Would you starve your child? or allow your child to go hog wild? eat little to no vegetables?.....No, you would feed your child healthy balanced foods because you love him/her and want them to feel good and be healthy.

Self loathing or self hate is so hard to face.......I have plenty of it myself.......we need to learn to love ourselves

You're right, Piekinns, it was Juniper who said that.
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I started KK about Aug of last year,...I have a confession to make now, and as I write this tears well in my eyes because for the first time I realize that I may have some kind of an eating disorder now, and to even admit something like this is so so very hard for me. all starts again....... I knew full well that everyone here was trying to get the message threw, but I could not except it. This has been the hardest thing for me to admit....I am sorry
(edited for brevity) Kiwi8, I know this was hard for you to write. You are in good company. Many of us know exactly what you are feeling right now.

I think it would be good for you to share your post with Kimkins Survivors as soon as you're able.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:29 AM   #706
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Um Heidi....give it up already....You've been busted.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:30 AM   #707
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She seemed as if she's been through this a time or two before!
I know...she looked like one of those guilty politicians or something with her immediate, "NO COMMENT."


OH, OH, OH....another thing on the whole "I'm not Heidi" thing. The blue sweater picture, which is up on Classmates as Heidi (Miller?) Diaz and which has been determined to actually BE Heidi Diaz.....during Jimmy's podcast interview, Jimmy asked about it and she said, "That's me."

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I have a request.
If we are allowed here ...can someone put the sound byte of "no comment'
and a sound byte from Jimmys pod cast in 1 post...and we can easily compare...others can easily compare...

I am hoping ducky does it...e have MANY talented computer people here...I am just hoping for it...

The voices are the same
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:34 AM   #709
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I've been off the site since last night and already today is a new thread and is 24 pages long and counting. I'm just at work now and can't wait to get home and watch the video and read the whole thread.

I hope I can catch up..Whew...
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I know...she looked like one of those guilty politicians or something with her immediate, "NO COMMENT."


OH, OH, OH....another thing on the whole "I'm not Heidi" thing. The blue sweater picture, which is up on Classmates as Heidi Diaz and which has been determined to actually BE Heidi Diaz.....during Jimmy's podcast interview, Jimmy asked about it and she said, "That's me."
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Kiwi8....Tracy... A day or so ago, over at Kimkins there was a post in KimmerChat questioned the monitoring of private messages. You responded with a post about "smelling duck" and that person called you out on it. You then responded with a post apologizing to that person. Tracy, know this: the person to whom you apologized REALLY appreciated it. She tried to post a response thanking you there on Kimkins, but her posting privileges were removed. Apparently her posts make Kimmer/Admins uneasy. So she then sent you a pm at Kimkins... but doubts you'll get it. So she wanted you to know. You apologized to her on Kimkins, and she appreciates it. She also knows how you feel... to wake-up one day and realize that the Kimkins dream isn't real... and that "Kimmer" is no more than a narcissistic personality disordered sociopath who cheats nice people out of money and seems to get away with it.

In any event Tracy, we're so glad you're out of there. And it will be okay. You'll see.

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AWWW your a wee honey, thanks for being understanding, and I know excatly who you are talking about WINK WINK ....hugs
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This was just posted on Kimkins; Mel

Re: Ask Kimmer 3 Minutes ago
Everybody, I am going to lock the "Ask Kimmer" thread. Part of the idea for the management group is "less Kimmer more Kimkins" and then I can focus on the behind-the-scenes stuff that we do.

Questions? Ask in Kimkins Cafe or Newbie Support. The admins are busy bees zooming around to answer as quick as they can.

Thanks for the emails about a Kimkins Gathering! We've had suggestions for locations including Las Vegas, Atlantic City or spa resorts in Arizona. We'll be talking more about (maybe a vote?) and get planning and info to everyone!
Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable
I leave for an hour and their is 11 pages to catch up on ALREADY!!! Whew!

She might have scrubbed the site, but she still claims (bold mine):

Meet Mary uh Mary's not there and if they asked her I'm sure you wouldn't get any new customers...who lost an amazing 125 pounds and reports she lost weight by eating "mostly meats and green vegetables" and "researching plans like Kimkins". She got snapped up for the competitive People magazine weight loss cover story!

Wow! In fact, you could be the next to join the hottest new low carb program around! Best part? It's all online! Everything you need is here! No meetings, no babysitters, no gasoline expense!

Just ask Deni who would tell you to RUN AWAY not spend $60who zapped off 60 pounds in just 90 days. Yes! She dropped from size 18 to 6 in only 3 months -- and kicked her smoking addiction, too!


Plus she still advertises "Direct access to Kimmer." She can set up a scam but she is HORRIBLE in managing it properly, IMO! LOL And she is setting up TT and whoever her "management" team is, if they exist, for an even BIGGER PART in this FRAUD. RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN away from this!!!! Before you RUIN your LIFE for HER!!!!

BTW--TV spot?


WAY TO GO!!!
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