Why the fascination with Kimmer? #4

[missis36]

WOW that is totally untrue! I don;t believe I ever said a thing over there at all. Aside from the new exercise dvd review I was going to start, I hadn't posted much at all for the last while I was there.

Interesting though that someone I have NO idea who he/she is...and didn;t even recognize the name until being back over here after resigning and being banned from there...seems to know me??? hmmm

I FREAKING KNEW IT! I knew if you had we would have been told about it. See, that's just rude to lie. Thanks yelnats. Sheesh!

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by kiwi8

OK lets see if my freedom of speech gets threw this time shall we........
Ok I am not arguing wether or not you were or were not instructed to lower your calorie in take or not, what I am saying is this....if it were children who were being told to do this and going blindly along with what someone told them to do, then that's one thing, way way wrong, ok I strongly agree......however as far as I know you are all adults CORRECT????? I too was told to lower this and that, but my common sense kicked in and said arrrrrr not a good idea. If you were being told to lower your calories to the extreme and you done it blindly, then you must take some of that responsibility too, you can't just start screaming FOWL and yes that does = duck for those late bloomers LOL.....went right over some peoples heads......anyway back on topic......I am not against what you are upset about, I am upset though on some people's ethics on how they have chosen to go about it...... there is no point what so ever in name calling etc etc, and yes I too am guilty of this, I should not have lowered my standards to get my point across, and I sincerely apologize for this.....I am sure we can all be civil to each other.....no doubt a lot of you ladies once supported me, and I you, so lets just agree to disagree on some points......I do fully understand how we can get emotional over things And just to set things straight, I have not got blinders on, I can see what is going on, and as someone was kind enough to enlighten us all on, Yes I have only lost 11 pounds, why because I am not doing 400 cals a day, why because I tried it and I felt it wasn't good for me to do, it was way to extreme for me, but some people think that is ok.....but bottom line here, wether we agree or disagree, it is their own business how they chose to eat.......I knew way way way before I ever entered KK that 300-400 cals a day was not a good idea, and you can't tell me that none of you were aware of this too.......come on ladies, take a little bit of responsibility here........
Have a nice day everyone

Hi Kiwi
I saw you post last night before it was deleted...just sayin...so you have a nice day!

Oh and BLESS YOUR HEART!

[CissyLynn]

Is there a place to go on LCF to help ex-KK members find support and a new healthy eating plan? Also, is there a thread for people with 200+ pounds to lose? Thanks.

[JustKim]

Originally Posted by missis36

I FREAKING KNEW IT! I knew if you had we would have been told about it. See, that's just rude to lie. Thanks yelnats. Sheesh!

Ironically, if I HAD even said somethng over there it would have been copied over here

to do it over, I probably would not have even mentioned it here.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by kiwi8

OK lets see if my freedom of speech gets threw this time shall we........
Ok I am not arguing wether or not you were or were not instructed to lower your calorie in take or not, what I am saying is this....if it were children who were being told to do this and going blindly along with what someone told them to do, then that's one thing, way way wrong, ok I strongly agree......however as far as I know you are all adults CORRECT????? I too was told to lower this and that, but my common sense kicked in and said arrrrrr not a good idea. If you were being told to lower your calories to the extreme and you done it blindly, then you must take some of that responsibility too, you can't just start screaming FOWL and yes that does = duck for those late bloomers LOL.....went right over some peoples heads......anyway back on topic......I am not against what you are upset about, I am upset though on some people's ethics on how they have chosen to go about it...... there is no point what so ever in name calling etc etc, and yes I too am guilty of this, I should not have lowered my standards to get my point across, and I sincerely apologize for this.....I am sure we can all be civil to each other.....no doubt a lot of you ladies once supported me, and I you, so lets just agree to disagree on some points......I do fully understand how we can get emotional over things And just to set things straight, I have not got blinders on, I can see what is going on, and as someone was kind enough to enlighten us all on, Yes I have only lost 11 pounds, why because I am not doing 400 cals a day, why because I tried it and I felt it wasn't good for me to do, it was way to extreme for me, but some people think that is ok.....but bottom line here, wether we agree or disagree, it is their own business how they chose to eat.......I knew way way way before I ever entered KK that 300-400 cals a day was not a good idea, and you can't tell me that none of you were aware of this too.......come on ladies, take a little bit of responsibility here........
Have a nice day everyone

You felt it wasn't good for you. That's great, for you. Don't you feel cheated for paying for something that wasn't a healthy choice? You were told to lower your calories and you knew better than to follow that advice. What about those that didn't know. Those that still don't know? What about the CHILD who was told to go lower. Is Kimmer/Heidi responsible for that advice since she gave it to a child, who you seem to think is the only age group that has an excuse?
*I had NO low carb experience. I believed the domino effect. I believed the stored food bs. It went against everything I previously knew but I had no idea that it wasn't how low carb was done. NO idea. I took the advice of a woman who claimed to have lost almost 200 pounds and maintained that weight loss for 6 or so years. I PAID to join this site. It's based on lies. It's fraud. It hurts people. How does a woman who has claimed to maintain her weight loss for 6 years not have a plan already figured out for maintaining that weight loss? I started to question things when I saw her telling people to lower already extremely low calories. I started to realize something was very wrong when I started to see so many being banned, questions being deleted, and her had enough post.

The site is set up to dazzle. Look at all the success stories there USED to be. Read the testimonials (the ones still left up). Look at the pictures that haven't been removed. Were they not inspiring? I'm sorry but she started a business and she had/has a responsibility and an obligation to the people that PAID to join her site to supply a safe and healthy method for weight loss and no matter who you point the finger at it's not going to change the fact that these responsibilities were, and still are, hers!
I'm no idiot, I assure you. Neither are the many others who fell for this. If I went on a diet and lowered my calories on my own knowing I would harm my health then shame on me. But, I paid for a diet that was promoted as healthy and safe and it wasn't. Shame on HER!
PS. By the way, the KKK comment? ..... Well, bless your heart.

[emily1965]

Kimkins was loaded with inexperienced dieters. Sometimes they would question going so low in calories and the safety of that. Kimmer's response would go something along the lines of.......

"You poor, stupid twit, don't you know that you have a bazillion calories on your fat arse and on that huge gut of yours? You don't need to take in any calories until your fat is gone. Your body is carrying around all the calories it needs in those rolls of yours. Quit making excuses as to why you need to stuff your face and quit eating if you actually want to lose weight. You know I love ya and you are going to do awesome....now go drink some laxative tea and leave me alone".

Then others would chime in and back kimmer up on all her BS. "Listen to Kimmer. She knows what she's doing. She lost 600 pounds in 12 days. I listened to her and I lost 42 pounds last week. You must not really want to lose weight."

[IdreamofLean]

Originally Posted by CissyLynn

Is there a place to go on LCF to help ex-KK members find support and a new healthy eating plan? Also, is there a thread for people with 200+ pounds to lose? Thanks.

The Century club is for people who have 100+ to lose and there is a 300+ support group for those who have been or are 300 lbs

Very friendly bunch over there

[conbofan9]

Originally Posted by CissyLynn

Is there a place to go on LCF to help ex-KK members find support and a new healthy eating plan? Also, is there a thread for people with 200+ pounds to lose? Thanks.

here dear, try this link..
Kimkins Refugees Support Group

its called kimkins refugees.....hope its what you are looking for..

[Mayberryfan]

Melt said:

Sorry. I'm just pissed because that winger keeps attacking me in the politics thread. Course, I'm fueling her fire with my comments.

Sooooo happy to report that's me she's talking about in her PM to Kimmer. Hey, I'd tried to play nice, but I don't let anyone do my thinking for me. Least of all someone like Melt!!

[heidi21062]

Originally Posted by emily1965

Kimkins was loaded with inexperienced dieters. Sometimes they would question going so low in calories and the safety of that. Kimmer's response would go something along the lines of.......

"You poor, stupid twit, don't you know that you have a bazillion calories on your fat arse and on that huge gut of yours? You don't need to take in any calories until your fat is gone. Your body is carrying around all the calories it needs in those rolls of yours. Quit making excuses as to why you need to stuff your face and quit eating if you actually want to lose weight. You know I love ya and you are going to do awesome....now go drink some laxative tea and leave me alone".

Then others would chime in and back kimmer up on all her BS. "Listen to Kimmer. She knows what she's doing. She lost 600 pounds in 12 days. I listened to her and I lost 42 pounds last week. You must not really want to lose weight."

[Yelnats]

Originally Posted by missis36

I FREAKING KNEW IT! I knew if you had we would have been told about it. See, that's just rude to lie. Thanks yelnats. Sheesh!

What lie????????? I said we knew about the "threat" to what was then a member of a site we both belonged to. We did, and it was also discussed on the other LC site weeks ago. It was no secret. Take care missis, BLESS YOUR HEART! Yeln

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Melt said:


Sooooo happy to report that's me she's talking about in her PM to Kimmer. Hey, I'd tried to play nice, but I don't let anyone do my thinking for me. Least of all someone like Melt!!

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by emily1965

Kimkins was loaded with inexperienced dieters. Sometimes they would question going so low in calories and the safety of that. Kimmer's response would go something along the lines of.......

"You poor, stupid twit, don't you know that you have a bazillion calories on your fat arse and on that huge gut of yours? You don't need to take in any calories until your fat is gone. Your body is carrying around all the calories it needs in those rolls of yours. Quit making excuses as to why you need to stuff your face and quit eating if you actually want to lose weight. You know I love ya and you are going to do awesome....now go drink some laxative tea and leave me alone".

Then others would chime in and back kimmer up on all her BS. "Listen to Kimmer. She knows what she's doing. She lost 600 pounds in 12 days. I listened to her and I lost 42 pounds last week. You must not really want to lose weight."

yeah, that about sums it up.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by Mayberryfan

Melt said:


Sooooo happy to report that's me she's talking about in her PM to Kimmer. Hey, I'd tried to play nice, but I don't let anyone do my thinking for me. Least of all someone like Melt!!

Oh Oh ...... I'll make sure I don't ask you if you are voting for Hillary!!!

[CissyLynn]

Originally Posted by IdreamofLean

The Century club is for people who have 100+ to lose and there is a 300+ support group for those who have been or are 300 lbs

Very friendly bunch over there

Thanks so much. I'll check it out. I've been floundering ever since I stopped the Kimkins Die....t.

[kiwi8]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

You felt it wasn't good for you. That's great, for you. Don't you feel cheated for paying for something that wasn't a healthy choice? You were told to lower your calories and you knew better than to follow that advice. What about those that didn't know. Those that still don't know? What about the CHILD who was told to go lower. Is Kimmer/Heidi responsible for that advice since she gave it to a child, who you seem to think is the only age group that has an excuse?
*I had NO low carb experience. I believed the domino effect. I believed the stored food bs. It went against everything I previously knew but I had no idea that it wasn't how low carb was done. NO idea. I took the advice of a woman who claimed to have lost almost 200 pounds and maintained that weight loss for 6 or so years. I PAID to join this site. It's based on lies. It's fraud. It hurts people. How does a woman who has claimed to maintain her weight loss for 6 years not have a plan already figured out for maintaining that weight loss? I started to question things when I saw her telling people to lower already extremely low calories. I started to realize something was very wrong when I started to see so many being banned, questions being deleted, and her had enough post.

The site is set up to dazzle. Look at all the success stories there USED to be. Read the testimonials (the ones still left up). Look at the pictures that haven't been removed. Were they not inspiring? I'm sorry but she started a business and she had/has a responsibility and an obligation to the people that PAID to join her site to supply a safe and healthy method for weight loss and no matter who you point the finger at it's not going to change the fact that these responsibilities were, and still are, hers!
I'm no idiot, I assure you. Neither are the many others who fell for this. If I went on a diet and lowered my calories on my own knowing I would harm my health then shame on me. But, I paid for a diet that was promoted as healthy and safe and it wasn't. Shame on HER!
PS. By the way, the KKK comment? ..... Well, bless your heart.

Cheated?? yes I spose I feel cheated, but I have been lied to before......now I am not trying to take away how you feel, you have every right to be upset, and yes if you had never done a low carb diet before then I supposed you could fall victim to this......but you can not say that you had never ever before heard of low calorie in take and how bad it was for you......and if she was telling children to do this, then by all means YES shame on her.....
Now if I am wrong, no doubt I will have A LOT of people set me straight on this.....I always assumed that when we go into ketosis our bodies start living off of the fat that we already have, is that correct???? so if that is the case and some one has a lot to lose, wouldn't I be correct to assume that as long as they are getting enough protein in that they would be ok to eat this way until they get to a desired weight???? now if I am wrong, ok heck I can take that on the chin no problem........as far as the KKK statement I made, I do believe I did sincerely apologize for this statement and I meant it, and as far as my post last night went, I was just trying to convey that I was upset about threats and that I felt it was not cool at all......if anyone out there is not big enough to except my apology, by all means continue in whatever blows your hair back......once again I am not here to argue, I am truly trying to figure all this out myself.....and while on the subject of figuring all this out, would some one so kindly tell me how all this actually started???? did some one get sick, or were people starting to ask questions and getting banned or what, because I honestly wasn't around when it all happened and I have tried to trace it back, but I don't know where it started.......
Some one was asking what my screen name is over at KK.....it is TracyStafford.......

[HulaHunnie]

Aloha All,

My name is Brenda and I just recently left the Kimkins madness. My husband is currently deployed to Iraq and I thought that Kimkins would be a great way to drop some excess weight fast and surprise him when he came home. Boy was I WRONG!!! I started in August on K/E, it just didn't work for me, I only lost a few pounds and felt very discouraged. I was really confused because I had done the M/E in the past and the weight seemed to come right off. I still continued to do K/E and I got sick, really sick, at one point I remember lying in bed and I could feel my heart start to quiver and then beat rapidly and strong, I was terrified. I honestly thought I was going to die, I remember thinking Oh god, please don't let me die, my husband is gone and my little girl (5) will find me dead in my bed in the morning, dear god please don't do that to my little girl. It was the most horrible, fearful night I have ever had. I would never recommend KK to anyone, I think it's incredibly dangerous and the site should be banned.
On another note, I'm happy to announce that I've been on M/E for 2 days and I'm down 2.5 lbs! Woo Hoo!!

Brenda

[GinaC]

Originally Posted by Yelnats

What lie????????? I said we knew about the "threat" to what was then a member of a site we both belonged to. We did, and it was also discussed on the other LC site weeks ago. It was no secret. Take care missis, BLESS YOUR HEART! Yeln

UUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHH I call FOWL. Inappropriate use of "bless your heart"

[Jazlyn]

Originally Posted by kiwi8

OK lets see if my freedom of speech gets threw this time shall we........
Ok I am not arguing wether or not you were or were not instructed to lower your calorie in take or not, what I am saying is this....if it were children who were being told to do this and going blindly along with what someone told them to do, then that's one thing, way way wrong, ok I strongly agree......however as far as I know you are all adults CORRECT????? I too was told to lower this and that, but my common sense kicked in and said arrrrrr not a good idea. If you were being told to lower your calories to the extreme and you done it blindly, then you must take some of that responsibility too, you can't just start screaming FOWL and yes that does = duck for those late bloomers LOL.....went right over some peoples heads......anyway back on topic......I am not against what you are upset about, I am upset though on some people's ethics on how they have chosen to go about it...... there is no point what so ever in name calling etc etc, and yes I too am guilty of this, I should not have lowered my standards to get my point across, and I sincerely apologize for this.....I am sure we can all be civil to each other.....no doubt a lot of you ladies once supported me, and I you, so lets just agree to disagree on some points......I do fully understand how we can get emotional over things And just to set things straight, I have not got blinders on, I can see what is going on, and as someone was kind enough to enlighten us all on, Yes I have only lost 11 pounds, why because I am not doing 400 cals a day, why because I tried it and I felt it wasn't good for me to do, it was way to extreme for me, but some people think that is ok.....but bottom line here, wether we agree or disagree, it is their own business how they chose to eat.......I knew way way way before I ever entered KK that 300-400 cals a day was not a good idea, and you can't tell me that none of you were aware of this too.......come on ladies, take a little bit of responsibility here........
Have a nice day everyone

So..umm..you think adults should PAY for advice and then NOT take it?

[wifezilla]

Hi Brenda,

Glad you got out of there, Take care of yourself.
****
As for past posts getting deleted here, I called Kimmer a thief and a fraud in August and it was deleted. Something about SLANDER. LOL....it aint slander if it's true!!!

[CissyLynn]

Originally Posted by conbofan9

here dear, try this link..
Kimkins Refugees Support Group

its called kimkins refugees.....hope its what you are looking for..

Thanks for the link, Sheriff. I love your avi and your posts! I am soooo happy that I happened upon this thread. It really opened my eyes but soon I'll need a support group for "Fascination Thread Readers".

[conbofan9]

OK between Yelnats and Kiwi.....I am sooooooo confused!!!!

does anyone know what either one of them are really saying? is it me? am i tired? i had some FAT today so my brain should be working....maybe i should just go back to lurking, and throwing my mouse once in a while, and questioning my budgies when i dont get a post cause this place has become soooooo confusing!!!

oh, and i noticed a lot of new comers in the last few hours....

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by CissyLynn

Thanks so much. I'll check it out. I've been floundering ever since I stopped the Kimkins Die....t.

Don't get discouraged. There's a lot of info on this site and you will find a WOE that works for you. Hang in there.