Why the fascination with Kimmer? #4

[jayed]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

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OMG!!Did you notice s/he called us the KKK?!?!?

There are way too many spelling and grammatical errors in that post for me to take this seriously.

[anani]

You know it constantly shocks me when people keep trying to pass the blame onto the KK members for taking things to the extreme!! I read a post where someone scoffed and said ..."where did kimmer ever advocate eating 400 calories a day?" I posted the following a while ago but I don't know if anyone noticed it then. This is the most blatant example of Kimmer coaching exteme low calories I personally ever saw. I have the screen shot if any one should ever need.


Page 27/ 28 – ask kimmer thread at Kimkins.com

Member asks Kimmer:
I'm new here - just started yesterday.

Which plan is designed for the fastest weight loss results?

I'm on KE and don't have a problem with it. I was looking at Boot Camp and wondering is it's designed for quicker weight loss results?

Thanks!!

Kimmer's response:
The very fastest would be the Meal Replacement Shake option because there's no chance of messing up. 450 calories a day, that's it.

Second is Boot Camp because the protein and salads are limited, but someone could still pick a higher calorie protein by accident.

K/E was originally the fastest, but it's not always anymore because some people tend to be creative about what a "lean" protein is plus overeating with too big portions or small snacks all day .

Kimkins is the slowest and still way faster than any other non-Kimkins plan except water fasting.

Another Member asks:
Hi Kimmer

You just posted a relpy that the Replacement Shake option is 450 caloris a day but when I look at the plan under KIMKINS Diet Plans it says 800 calories a day. Which is correct?

Kimmer's response:
It would be 800 if you choose 200 calorie shakes and 4 per day. Personally, as long as I'm doing shakes (which are not incredibly exciting anyway), I'd find a 150 calorie version and limit to 3 (skipping a snack shake).

But I'm impatient.

Bolding is mine

[BobbiOh]

and now they cry fowl

Freudian slip? Fowl = duck / Foul = out of bounds.

[Doodle_in_MA]

Originally Posted by missis36

I actually removed that when I posted it as I found that comment highly offensive and I'm not easily offended. So I removed it to not offend others. But really? The kkk? Really? That's the most idiotic thing I have heard in years. I'd like 15 minutes in a room with half of these posters, and a black board, 1 piece of chalk and a dictionary. Sheesh! Dumb dumb dumb. BTW...that was a hillbilly statement....just saying.

ETA: Doodle you made me edit haha. No it wasn't Tippy, but my thoughts went directly to her, so I'd say it was one of tippy's alter egos?

I have to say I am starting to feel sorry for Tippy. She has WAY more problems than her spelling issues.

[Bobbin]

Originally Posted by SingingLass

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For those of you trying to say it is made up, I cannot help but wonder if that is in part to make yourselves feel better and to detatch from a crime that has happened..... To ride it off as not being real so that it does not have to be addressed as such or any kind of blame taken. No matter who did it, I think that kind of perspective or attitude---disregarding----could just set someone else up to be hurt in the same way.

You are detaching yourself from Hideys crimes.

[missis36]

Originally Posted by SingingLass

Sorry, but they are filtering/ moderating my posts. This causes them to take a long time to post, and I have been scanning through, but have not found the one that I wrote last night. I still hold though that I really do not want to fight or anything like I have seen when other admins and the like have tried to converse over here.

I had a post over at KK talking a bit about why I did not originally say anything, and was surprised it did not end up here as well. Firstly it was because of the investigation, and there are other things that for this reason I have not discussed. Little pieces of info were leaked out that were confusing, largely people not knowing what TT was refering to, and so I clarified it a little.

I seem calm because that is typically how I react to stressful circumstances....I imagine some of you read the other stuff Ducky posted about me, and feeling at threat is not something new or that I do not know how to deal with. However, it was upsetting regardless, especially at first.

Yes, I have taken security measures. I however cannot really go stay with anyone else---were it any other time I would have gone to my sister's and brother in law's....but she is pregnant in her first trimester and really anxiety prone, and I do not want her to know about any of this. I do not want to cause that kind of risk with her, and I know she would panic if she knew.

Some of you may have noticed I was not posting much this last week and weekend...this is because I was performing in an opera revival from my summer production. My time was rather consumed. That post that has been circulating was posted with a time stamp at a time that I would have been sitting backstage putting on gloves and listening to the overture.

As for thinking Kimmer created the calls. They came from many different states and voices ( but all were women at least). One even had some kind of baby mobile or toy playing in the background which gave it kind of a morbid twist. Yes, I have voice mails.

The good thing that has come out of me making it known, is that the calls stopped. I guess they realized it is being reported.

I think what is upsetting to me though, is that over at ducky they are still trying to act like they did nothing wrong, ignoring the fact that they put my info out and told people to call it---but now are saying calling me is bad and should not be done? They also were denying that any posts of a threatening nature were allowed up on their site, and you can still see this in their comment sections ...until several people brought up having personally seen the posts. I think in trying to say that I or someone else associated with the kk site staged this or made it up, you have to first look at where it came from and was started--what the cause was. How could that have been of our doing?

For those of you trying to say it is made up, I cannot help but wonder if that is in part to make yourselves feel better and to detatch from a crime that has happened..... To ride it off as not being real so that it does not have to be addressed as such or any kind of blame taken. No matter who did it, I think that kind of perspective or attitude---disregarding----could just set someone else up to be hurt in the same way. How would any of you feel to wake-up tomorrow to calls like that and discover it was generated from your personal info being posted with instructions to harass you as if it was some kind of game or entertainment? I can assure you it is neither.

Let me tell you something SL, I'll be happy to give you my phone number and real name and I assure you, you haven't heard from me, so you may keep your snide little comments to yourself. Also they are YOUR words that we are going by. YOUR comments about being able to change up your pattern on the computer when surfing these sites. And YOU are the one who has made so many comments about US. So again, thank you for your comments about how it was probably us, but again, I don't buy your story! BTW I never said Heidi called you I said I BET she was the one who posted the hateful message at ducky's site. (since at this point that's the only proof of wrong doing we have...did you need me to direct you to Tippy or Heidi's threats? Cuz I can)

So I'll wait until you finish reading this, I know it can get confusing, but I'll also say this again, you have time to come over here and make a fluffy post about your sister and your fab weekend, but where are the answers to the questions you were asked re: why you would help commit a fraud.

Crime is crime and you can't just dismiss one type and point fingers at another. It's quite silly, and utterly alarming.

Have a good day

[Tooter]

Originally Posted by Violet Skye

With apologies to His Royal Purpleness, this is what it sounds like when ducks cry......

Does KKK stand for "Kimkins Krime Katchers"?

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by SingingLass

Sorry, but they are filtering/ moderating my posts. This causes them to take a long time to post, and I have been scanning through, but have not found the one that I wrote last night.
(snipped)
For those of you trying to say it is made up, I cannot help but wonder if that is in part to make yourselves feel better and to detatch from a crime that has happened..... To ride it off as not being real so that it does not have to be addressed as such or any kind of blame taken. No matter who did it, I think that kind of perspective or attitude---disregarding----could just set someone else up to be hurt in the same way. .

SingingLass I did see some posts last night early am on her from you and I think it still was up last time I checked.
Are you saying you answered our questions?
Also, please look at what I bolded of your words....Now read it like I am telling you that exact same thing, because I am....we all are!

How can you make yourself feel better by acting as if we are making this up about Kimmer?
Are you not detaching from the crimes she has commited and the harm she has done?
Are you and other Kimkins associated trying to pretend the crime and harm is not real so Kimmer doesn't have to take the blame.
And do you not feel your perspective or attitude----of disregarding----could not be setting other innocent dieters up for harm or fraud?

You need to reflect on those comments instead of projecting these emotions on us...they belong to you!

BTW-We will believe it when the proof has been shown that it happened and I would say the person needs to take blame.
But with the proof you have seen what is your reason?

[emeraldskye]

Originally Posted by SingingLass

For those of you trying to say it is made up, I cannot help but wonder if that is in part to make yourselves feel better and to detatch from a crime that has happened..... To ride it off as not being real so that it does not have to be addressed as such or any kind of blame taken. No matter who did it, I think that kind of perspective or attitude---disregarding----could just set someone else up to be hurt in the same way.

Ahh, but is this not what you are doing? Think about it.

[little_miss]

Does anyone know what 150 cal each shakes shes talking about???
And can I get them at a local gmc or anything? I think it would be a nice thing to add so I dont always have to eat an animal for every meal

[GinaC]

Originally Posted by missis36

I actually removed that when I posted it as I found that comment highly offensive and I'm not easily offended. So I removed it to not offend others. But really? The kkk? Really? That's the most idiotic thing I have heard in years. I'd like 15 minutes in a room with half of these posters, and a black board, 1 piece of chalk and a dictionary. Sheesh! Dumb dumb dumb. BTW...that was a hillbilly statement....just saying.

ETA: Doodle you made me edit haha. No it wasn't Tippy, but my thoughts went directly to her, so I'd say it was one of tippy's alter egos?

Ok a little "Southron" language lesson - Hillbilly is not really considered to be offensive. Hillbillies may not have much "book lurnin" but they are self reliant and imbued with common sense and a love of family and neighbors.

More appropriate pejoratives would be "peckerwood, clay eater, white trash". I, being well versed in "Southron" put downs would opt for peckerwood which denotes someone loud and troublesome like the bird, often with red hair similar to the bird's red plumes.

Bless her heart!

[Doggygirl]

Could someone who has a copy of the Woman's World article fax me? I'm amusing myself with the Dr. Pescatore part of that, since he was at Atkins for 5 years (according to the bio on his book "Thin for Good" copyright 2000), and I've heard mention that he's quoted, or something in the WW article. Since that's been bothering me, I'm looking into it. Would love the exact quotes and context. If you can fax the article, please PM me and I'll provide my number!

Here's what I'm asking and blogging of today...

Doggygirl’s Dog House

[KimPossible]

Originally Posted by missis36

Crime is crime and you can't just dismiss one type and point fingers at another. It's quite silly, and utterly alarming.

Have a good day

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by missis36

I actually removed that when I posted it as I found that comment highly offensive and I'm not easily offended. So I removed it to not offend others. But really? The kkk? Really? That's the most idiotic thing I have heard in years. I'd like 15 minutes in a room with half of these posters, and a black board, 1 piece of chalk and a dictionary. Sheesh! Dumb dumb dumb. BTW...that was a hillbilly statement....just saying.

ETA: Doodle you made me edit haha. No it wasn't Tippy, but my thoughts went directly to her, so I'd say it was one of tippy's alter egos?

I had already posted it when I saw your post with it edited out...the timing is slow and the order of posts is off.
Sorry if me posting the comment offended anyone. But it is telling who it MAY have been.

[robsrib]

Originally Posted by SingingLass

Sorry, but they are filtering/ moderating my posts. This causes them to take a long time to post, and I have been scanning through, but have not found the one that I wrote last night. I still hold though that I really do not want to fight or anything like I have seen when other admins and the like have tried to converse over here.

I had a post over at KK talking a bit about why I did not originally say anything, and was surprised it did not end up here as well. Firstly it was because of the investigation, and there are other things that for this reason I have not discussed. Little pieces of info were leaked out that were confusing, largely people not knowing what TT was refering to, and so I clarified it a little.

I seem calm because that is typically how I react to stressful circumstances....I imagine some of you read the other stuff Ducky posted about me, and feeling at threat is not something new or that I do not know how to deal with. However, it was upsetting regardless, especially at first.

Yes, I have taken security measures. I however cannot really go stay with anyone else---were it any other time I would have gone to my sister's and brother in law's....but she is pregnant in her first trimester and really anxiety prone, and I do not want her to know about any of this. I do not want to cause that kind of risk with her, and I know she would panic if she knew.

Some of you may have noticed I was not posting much this last week and weekend...this is because I was performing in an opera revival from my summer production. My time was rather consumed. That post that has been circulating was posted with a time stamp at a time that I would have been sitting backstage putting on gloves and listening to the overture.

As for thinking Kimmer created the calls. They came from many different states and voices ( but all were women at least). One even had some kind of baby mobile or toy playing in the background which gave it kind of a morbid twist. Yes, I have voice mails.

The good thing that has come out of me making it known, is that the calls stopped. I guess they realized it is being reported.

I think what is upsetting to me though, is that over at ducky they are still trying to act like they did nothing wrong, ignoring the fact that they put my info out and told people to call it---but now are saying calling me is bad and should not be done? They also were denying that any posts of a threatening nature were allowed up on their site, and you can still see this in their comment sections ...until several people brought up having personally seen the posts. I think in trying to say that I or someone else associated with the kk site staged this or made it up, you have to first look at where it came from and was started--what the cause was. How could that have been of our doing?

For those of you trying to say it is made up, I cannot help but wonder if that is in part to make yourselves feel better and to detatch from a crime that has happened..... To ride it off as not being real so that it does not have to be addressed as such or any kind of blame taken. No matter who did it, I think that kind of perspective or attitude---disregarding----could just set someone else up to be hurt in the same way. How would any of you feel to wake-up tomorrow to calls like that and discover it was generated from your personal info being posted with instructions to harass you as if it was some kind of game or entertainment? I can assure you it is neither.

Singinglass,
You seem like a reasonable person, educated and talented. Is it a matter of pride for you to stick with and promote a program that is at it's core flawed in so many ways? Does it not bother you in the least that the founder/creator of the program is a fraud? I simply cannot understand why someone with your talents, etc...is so strongly supporting a woman who will not be transparent in her business, not post recent pictures of herself to back her claims of success?

I am sorry that you have been targeted in the way that you say you have.

I hope that you do not suffer any of the ill health effects of the program you advocate like many others have.

[htxfroggy]

Was that actually posted by Tippy?

Nope, not from Tippy. There are two posters who have become very outspoken and rude to other members for asking questions.

[KarenG]

Originally Posted by LongwindedBadSpelleratKimkins

These are the people that could not be content with losing 3-4 pounds a week, no they had to lose faster and faster, they took it to the extreme….

Because KIMMER TOLD THEM TO!!!!!!!! Geesh....how can people ignore all the evidence of Kimmer's OWN WORDS???

Originally Posted by SingingLass

For those of you trying to say it is made up, I cannot help but wonder if that is in part to make yourselves feel better and to detatch from a crime that has happened..... To ride it off as not being real so that it does not have to be addressed as such or any kind of blame taken. No matter who did it, I think that kind of perspective or attitude---disregarding----could just set someone else up to be hurt in the same way. How would any of you feel to wake-up tomorrow to calls like that and discover it was generated from your personal info being posted with instructions to harass you as if it was some kind of game or entertainment? I can assure you it is neither.

Why do we need to make ourselves feel better? I didn't do it, and no one I know did it, so I don't need to feel better. I think it stinks that it happened and feel sympathy for you. I think that is what others have been trying to say also. They are not apologizing for having done something...they are saying they are sorry something happened to you.

[JustKim]

Originally Posted by GinaC

Ok a little "Southron" language lesson - Hillbilly is not really considered to be offensive. Hillbillies may not have much "book lurnin" but they are self reliant and imbued with common sense and a love of family and neighbors.

More appropriate pejoratives would be "peckerwood, clay eater, white trash". I, being well versed in "Southron" put downs would opt for peckerwood which denotes someone loud and troublesome like the bird, often with red hair similar to the bird's red plumes.

Bless her heart!

this needed a warning sign! I think I about puddled from laughing so hard

[missis36]

Originally Posted by GinaC

Ok a little "Southron" language lesson - Hillbilly is not really considered to be offensive. Hillbillies may not have much "book lurnin" but they are self reliant and imbued with common sense and a love of family and neighbors.

More appropriate pejoratives would be "peckerwood, clay eater, white trash". I, being well versed in "Southron" put downs would opt for peckerwood which denotes someone loud and troublesome like the bird, often with red hair similar to the bird's red plumes.

Bless her heart!

WEll you just suck. My boss just ran to ask me why I was laughing! Man Gina, I thought we had a deal here.

[dlslds]

Originally Posted by little_miss

Does anyone know what 150 cal each shakes shes talking about???
And can I get them at a local gmc or anything? I think it would be a nice thing to add so I dont always have to eat an animal for every meal

littlemiss if you are refering to the shake plan from that Unhealthy Plan promoted at kimkins then NO
the shakes state on the bottle Not For Meal Replacement~~they say that for a reason!!!

however if you merely want to add protein into your diet say after a work out, there are Many Many choices, just go to Netrition and click on Protein Shakes and you have a ton of options!!!!

[Sleek]

Ya know I tried to warn people on this board back in May and the MODS here deleted my posts.
Im disgusted that some people mightve skipped kimmer and also saved their health if my posts had been read.

Bye all. Censorship sucks.

http://www.kimkins.com/images/storie...fer-Before.jpg


http://www.kimkins.com/images/stories/Jen-After.jpg




Oh and Im taking a screenshot of this page in case they delete this post too.

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by Violet Skye

With apologies to His Royal Purpleness, this is what it sounds like when ducks cry......

Does KKK stand for "Kimkins Krime Katchers"?

Or ...

Kancels Kimmer's Krap

Kancel Kimmer's Kraziness

Keep Kimmer Kwivering (yes, I know)

Keep Kimmer Kwestioning (yes, I know)

Ok, not as good as yours

Now back to SL...... or not