Why the fascination with Kimmer? #4 - Page 84

Mayberryfan · 10-01-2007, 07:21 PM

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Mayberryfan...is that your doggie? What kind is he/she?

Yes, that's my Jazz! (Christin is V.P. of his fan club!)

He's almost 4 yrs old, 1/2 Border Collie and 1/2 Jack Russell Terrorist! He's totally wound up all the time.

Ooooops! Thread Jack...sorry!

ixtapacheryl · 10-01-2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Katinsac

You know...I do have to feel a little sorry for SL is she did receive threatening calls. Living alone I can understand her fear. I also hope it has nothing to do with any of those fighting to shut down the site. With that said...there are a lot of sick people in the world, there are a lot on the internet. It very well could have just been someone who came across the information and took advantage of the situation. I hope she does find out who it is. But then again....I wouldn't put it past Kimmer to be the one just for the excitement!

I was thinking the same thing. It could be anyone that prowls the internet and thought this would be fun. Unless SL has numbers - how will she ever be able to figure out who called her. I would be frightened as well - especially being single and living alone. I doubt seriously that anyone here would do something like that ..... probably some weirdos (sp?) that have nothing else to do except prey on young, single gals.

GinaC · 10-01-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SMP

GinaC, Dr. Atkins died from a concussion resulting in brain damage and death. He slipped on some ice outside his office and cracked his head on the curb. But his "heart disease" was a tropical bug that he had picked up several years earlier, and it was successfully treated, although it left him also with damage to his heart. Ornish's attempts to claim he had heart trouble and died grossly obese from his diet ( he swelled enormously from the brain damage AFTER landing in hospital) don't fly with those who know the truth. Mrs. A. went on TV during her mourning to counteract the vicious rumors.

I thought that it was the complications of the previous heart infection that caused him to die not the concussion. My bad.

gungadinn1997 · 10-01-2007, 07:34 PM

This is the link where the info on SL was given out
You Can’t Hide « Kimkins Exposed

This is the link to the comments section
You Can’t Hide « Kimkins Exposed

If you read through the comments section you will see where gonetofar has stated about stalking.

Tazcat · 10-01-2007, 07:40 PM

wow i'm not sure what I think about them giving out her address and phone number - seems like quite an invasion of privacy

mrsmenopausal · 10-01-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by missis36

Here's the latest from Singing Lass

I hope this is fabricated. If it isn't, then I honestly feel for her. I know how scary it can be. Being alone and having it happen has to be even worse. I hope whoever called is held responsible. I have no respect for Singinglass. She's part of a dangerous scam. I'm sure there was no concern for me as a person when she and Kimmer/Heidi were so casually discussing banning me without a care as to what I may have needed or what I deserved as a paying member. I'm sure there was no concern for anyone she banned. I hope she realizes she's wanting compassion and concern for herself when she hasn't given it to others and I hope it makes her more sensitive to that. Still, no matter what, if this truly happened, it never should have. It's so wrong.

HoneyBee2 · 10-01-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by missis36

ETAA: Does anyone have the email address for ww mag? I can't seem to find it, due to the fact that I'm lazy. Thanks....and I'm thinking Honeybee will have it

OOPs maybe too late and others have chimed in, but here is what I have........

The publishing company is Bauer Publishing
Stephanie Saible Editor-in-Chief For Woman's World
Bauer Publishing
270 Sylvan Avenue
Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632
Main Phone: 201.569.6699
Main Fax: 201.569.5303

I also have two emails and I am not sure which one worked.
You can reach our editors by e mail at: dearww(at)aol(dot)com
OR
ssaible (at) bauerpublishing (dot)com

anipomoni · 10-01-2007, 07:42 PM

SL claims Ducky's blog had death threats to her on it. I haven't seen any, don't know anyone who has, and it seems VERY unlikely that Ducky would post those messages. This makes me hesitant to believe any of her story.

And the fact that she won't post those people's names, after getting DEATH THREATS from them....??? Kinda reminds me of how Kimmer, I mean Heidi, was more concerned about the PI's health in the hot car.

missis36 · 10-01-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by missis36

Sheridan I get it. I'm sorry but I really don't see the need to continue to argue one's point. You didn't like the post, we get that. Now let's carry on with the task at hand please. IMHO.

ETA: I'm sorry all that stuff made me forget my point of posting. My prayers are with the poor girl with the complications. Actually my prayers are with anyone who has been harmed by this con woman.

This is the reason we are here ladies. If a comment bothers you why not pm about it rather than derail the thread. Just my 2 cents.

Man you all are gonna make me quote myself haha. Ok, just so as ya'll know I was agreeing with Sheridan here. I was saying the person who was disputing her had made HER point. hehe. Sorry. Carry on.

mrsmenopausal · 10-01-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MorganMacLeoid

Even if anyone did call her and did actually make a threatening comment, that does not reflect on EVERYONE anyway. Just as not every KK member is a lunatic like the admin(ions).

The people that made the threats (assuming it's true) have serious issues! That is very, very wrong!

The people running KK and protecting the fraud (and abetting it) have serious issues! That is very, very wrong!

There is good and bad on both sides of this issue. It is far from black and white, as SL would have everyone believe.

Yes. ITA.

lisabinil · 10-01-2007, 07:43 PM

Even if it was pubic record, IMHO it still should not have been posted like that-a link would have been better. She is a single woman living alone.

Sheridan · 10-01-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GinaC

Ginger is in my prayers.

My mother died of an MRSA infection in 2004. Hers went internal and damaged her heart. It only took one week for the infection to kill her.

My sincerest condolences.

mrsmenopausal · 10-01-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gungadinn1997

This is the link where the info on SL was given out
You Can’t Hide « Kimkins Exposed

This is the link to the comments section
You Can’t Hide « Kimkins Exposed

If you read through the comments section you will see where gonetofar has stated about stalking.

I don't think that info should have been posted there.

missis36 · 10-01-2007, 07:52 PM

Well, I can honestly say I have never paid attention to the threads where people had their info posted. It didn't matter to me. As I can say most of the folks who are in this for the same reasons are doing what I do, which is making sure I contact every governing body on a daily basis. I'm sorry to say that the people who work for her don't matter to me, EXCEPT Tippy, and that's because Tippy is STILL trying to raise money for charity knowing full well the last batch of money didn't go to charity. Ya dig.

As for the posting of public info, I will go on record now saying I disagree with it. Whoever threatened Kimatc is disgusting, and I hope to god with all my heart she knows who it is and they can be addressed.

Come on folks we seem to be losing sight of why we are here, well maybe, hell I still doubt it was anyone from this site. But that's just a gut feeling I'm not psychic.

GinaC · 10-01-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I'm sorry to hear about your Mom! Is that infection also called "septis(sp?)" ? I heard if you get that - it will affect all your organs and the chance of survival is it's bad enough is not good. We had a neighbor gal that had hip replacement (she was about 45 years old). I saw her up and walking around her backyard one day and the next week I heard she was in the hospital. She developed this infection and died within a few days. That is nothing to fool around with.

I'm really sorry about your neighbor, she was so young.

Sepsis is a whole body infection and is very serious but what does the damage to the organs and is the most fatal is Septicemia and this comes about once the infection actually passes into the blood stream. It can be caused by many different bacterias but most are reactive to antibiotics. 2 of the worst are MRSA which is Methicillin resistant and is primarily treated with Vancomycin. There is another one cropping up, VRSA, which is resistant to Vancomycin.

Horrible, nasty stuff.

ETA - Thanks Cheryl & Sheridan

emeraldskye · 10-01-2007, 07:58 PM

I did see a comment on SL that stated that they wanted to stalk and hurt her. Also if she had children they should also watch out. I don't recall the exact wording but it was scary. I was surprised that this particular comment was accepted. It was way over the top.

Katinsac · 10-01-2007, 07:58 PM

maybe this comment on ducky's site gave her the idea to adlib on it?

...she can claim ( and justly) you were sending people to harass and stalk her and threaten her safety,...

Just hope she is telling the truth and not just playing up to the comment...not that I hope it happend but making a point.

Katinsac · 10-01-2007, 08:01 PM

I think comments from now on will be considered more as to if they will be posted...ok, now back to Kimmer (who is AOL..or is that SOL? lol)...I hope the investigator was hired to "keep an eye" on her so if she did leave they know it!!

jayed · 10-01-2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by anipomoni

SL claims Ducky's blog had death threats to her on it. I haven't seen any, don't know anyone who has, and it seems VERY unlikely that Ducky would post those messages. This makes me hesitant to believe any of her story.

And the fact that she won't post those people's names, after getting DEATH THREATS from them....??? Kinda reminds me of how Kimmer, I mean Heidi, was more concerned about the PI's health in the hot car.

I don't see why she should have to post their names. Would we even know who they were? If she has been getting threats, that is a matter for the police. What purpose is served by disclosing that information?

It's also possible it could interfere with an ongoing investigation.

mrsmenopausal · 10-01-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by missis36

As for the posting of public info, I will go on record now saying I disagree with it. Whoever threatened Kimatc is disgusting, and I hope to god with all my heart she knows who it is and they can be addressed.

Come on folks we seem to be losing sight of why we are here, well maybe, hell I still doubt it was anyone from this site. But that's just a gut feeling I'm not psychic.

There's no way for us to know who it was at this point in time. I *hate that it happened. I don't care for her because of what she's doing and her disregard for others but I wouldn't want that to happen to anyone. Period.

I haven't lost sight. Just so you know. It's too important.

Sherrie_lc · 10-01-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MorganMacLeoid

Even if anyone did call her and did actually make a threatening comment, that does not reflect on EVERYONE anyway. Just as not every KK member is a lunatic like the admin(ions).

The people that made the threats (assuming it's true) have serious issues! That is very, very wrong!

The people running KK and protecting the fraud (and abetting it) have serious issues! That is very, very wrong!

There is good and bad on both sides of this issue. It is far from black and white, as SL would have everyone believe.

EXACTLY!!!

anipomoni · 10-01-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jayed

I don't see why she should have to post their names. Would we even know who they were? If she has been getting threats, that is a matter for the police. What purpose is served by disclosing that information?

She doesn't have to post their names. But death threats are a HUGE deal and if I were her I would want to spread the word about these people.

I personally would not put anything above these people (K, TT, and SL) and this could be a tactic to sway sympathy in their direction.
If it DID happen, I would definitely urge SL to pursue the matter and seek justice. I'm just not sure I believe it at this point.

SMP · 10-01-2007, 08:20 PM

FWIW, I decided to check out Ducky's info on SingingLass, just to see what was up, on the weekend. I have to say, although this is public info, in the public domain, I thought it was unnecessary and intrusive. Heidi was fair game. So was Tippy, because she lent her support to Heidi AFTER knowing she was a fraud. But SingingLass comes into a different category, esp since the sanitizing of KK was already well underway. As for her being Heidi's confidante when TT wasn't, I think it's been established that Heidi trusts no one and plays her "supporters" off against each other. However, I REALLY have issues against publishing SL's real name, address and phone number. Any determined investigator could get that info anyway; so why make it easy for mischief makers? I was really peeved that they did a number on Kimatc, who didn't deserve it. I am disgusted that they never learned that such nasty tricks turn a lot of us posters off. For shame, Ducky!

jayed · 10-01-2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by anipomoni

She doesn't have to post their names. But death threats are a HUGE deal and if I were her I would want to spread the word about these people.

I personally would not put anything above these people (K, TT, and SL) and this could be a tactic to sway sympathy in their direction.
If it DID happen, I would definitely urge SL to pursue the matter and seek justice. I'm just not sure I believe it at this point.

I guess I'm just holding out hope that she would not make this up. I still don't see what purpose disclosure would serve. Plus, she probably has names and numbers from caller id. That doesn't necessarily id the caller. It ids the account holder. So she could post information that is incorrect and there would be legal ramifications.

I understand that this whole debacle has increased everyone's skepticism but I think it's unfair to ask her to post this info.

KimPossible · 10-01-2007, 08:22 PM

I TOTALLY AGREE that it was/is irresponsible to publish her phone number, no matter WHAT info is public knowledge. Same goes with KimATC, and I said as much. I think SingingLass should take ALL appropriate action to find and hold those who did such things accountable. They are criminals.

However...so is Kimmer. And why she can't see this is totally beyond me. She's mad at some criminals and not others? WTH? Also this quote, bold is mine:

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No one under any circumstances should have to experience something like this....and I do not understand how they can be over there with the stance that they are doing what is right and out to save people, when their tactics involve threatening and jepordizing the safety of complete strangers.

HOW DARE YOU, SINGINGLASS ACCUSE ME AND MANY OF THE OTHERS ON THIS THREAD WITHOUT PROOF. WE HAVE PROOF OF KIMMER'S INFRACTIONS. PROOF!! YOU GET THE PEOPLE THAT THREATENED YOU, AND MORE POWER TO YOU, BUT DON'T USE THAT TO DISPARAGE WHAT WE ARE ABOUT. WE ARE ABOUT STOPPING KIMMER FROM PROFITING ON PEOPLE'S HOPES BY TAKING THEIR MONEY AND ENDANGERING THEIR HEALTH. WE INCLUDE MANY MANY OLD TRIED AND TRUE MEMBERS AND PEOPLE WHO REALLY CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE OF LOW CARB AND YOU ARE LUMPING ALL OF US IN THAT CATEGORY. WE WERE YOU. WE ARE APPARENTLY SMARTER. GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN BECAUSE IT'S COMING TO AN END. THIS IS NOT A JOKE OR A HE SAID/SHE SAID SITUATION. KIMMER IS A CRIMINAL. FRAUD IS A CRIME.

10-01-2007, 07:34 PM	#2494
gungadinn1997 Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 840 Gallery: gungadinn1997 Stats: ?/?/? WOE: Low carb Start Date: March 24, 2008	This is the link where the info on SL was given out You Can’t Hide « Kimkins Exposed This is the link to the comments section You Can’t Hide « Kimkins Exposed If you read through the comments section you will see where gonetofar has stated about stalking. Last edited by gungadinn1997 : 10-01-2007 at 07:35 PM. Reason: to add last line

10-01-2007, 07:52 PM	#2504
missis36 hater detective Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Margaritaville Posts: 1,441 Gallery: missis36 Stats: Holy crap/OMG/hello hot mama! WOE: Atkins/low carb Start Date: 7-20-07	Well, I can honestly say I have never paid attention to the threads where people had their info posted. It didn't matter to me. As I can say most of the folks who are in this for the same reasons are doing what I do, which is making sure I contact every governing body on a daily basis. I'm sorry to say that the people who work for her don't matter to me, EXCEPT Tippy, and that's because Tippy is STILL trying to raise money for charity knowing full well the last batch of money didn't go to charity. Ya dig. As for the posting of public info, I will go on record now saying I disagree with it. Whoever threatened Kimatc is disgusting, and I hope to god with all my heart she knows who it is and they can be addressed. Come on folks we seem to be losing sight of why we are here, well maybe, hell I still doubt it was anyone from this site. But that's just a gut feeling I'm not psychic. __________________ Missi "Maybe she's just a lying liar who lies." ~Jeanessa "Sorry didn't mean to sound snerky."~ Kat "Kat are you drinking?" ~Honey "She hurt too many people and it will not be forgotten as long as I have breath in my body and a keyboard!" ~ Ginac on Tippy "She would earn my kudos if she took control of the hammer and delivered the final nail."~Woofy, on Tippy.

10-01-2007, 08:20 PM	#2513
SMP MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,062 Gallery: SMP Stats: 300/220/160 WOE: Atkins Start Date: Nov 2000	FWIW, I decided to check out Ducky's info on SingingLass, just to see what was up, on the weekend. I have to say, although this is public info, in the public domain, I thought it was unnecessary and intrusive. Heidi was fair game. So was Tippy, because she lent her support to Heidi AFTER knowing she was a fraud. But SingingLass comes into a different category, esp since the sanitizing of KK was already well underway. As for her being Heidi's confidante when TT wasn't, I think it's been established that Heidi trusts no one and plays her "supporters" off against each other. However, I REALLY have issues against publishing SL's real name, address and phone number. Any determined investigator could get that info anyway; so why make it easy for mischief makers? I was really peeved that they did a number on Kimatc, who didn't deserve it. I am disgusted that they never learned that such nasty tricks turn a lot of us posters off. For shame, Ducky! __________________ When the irresistible force meets the immovable object, which gives way first?

10-01-2007, 07:40 PM	#2495
Tazcat Carby Cat Join Date: May 2004 Location: amidst the cat hair >^..^< Posts: 32,112 Gallery: Tazcat WOE: Catkins	wow i'm not sure what I think about them giving out her address and phone number - seems like quite an invasion of privacy

10-01-2007, 07:42 PM	#2498
anipomoni Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Orlando and Philly Posts: 577 Gallery: anipomoni Stats: 315+/273.5/175 WOE: atkins	SL claims Ducky's blog had death threats to her on it. I haven't seen any, don't know anyone who has, and it seems VERY unlikely that Ducky would post those messages. This makes me hesitant to believe any of her story. And the fact that she won't post those people's names, after getting DEATH THREATS from them....??? Kinda reminds me of how Kimmer, I mean Heidi, was more concerned about the PI's health in the hot car.

10-01-2007, 07:43 PM	#2501
lisabinil Big Yapper!!!! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: suburbs of Chicago Posts: 9,286 Gallery: lisabinil Stats: 214/185/180 287 in 00 WOE: higher carb Atkins for optimum health Start Date: SBD 3/5/07,Atkins 4/18/07	Even if it was pubic record, IMHO it still should not have been posted like that-a link would have been better. She is a single woman living alone.

10-01-2007, 07:58 PM	#2506
emeraldskye Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 3,308 Gallery: emeraldskye	I did see a comment on SL that stated that they wanted to stalk and hurt her. Also if she had children they should also watch out. I don't recall the exact wording but it was scary. I was surprised that this particular comment was accepted. It was way over the top.

10-01-2007, 07:58 PM	#2507
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,773 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	maybe this comment on ducky's site gave her the idea to adlib on it? ...she can claim ( and justly) you were sending people to harass and stalk her and threaten her safety,... Just hope she is telling the truth and not just playing up to the comment...not that I hope it happend but making a point.

10-01-2007, 08:01 PM	#2508
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,773 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	I think comments from now on will be considered more as to if they will be posted...ok, now back to Kimmer (who is AOL..or is that SOL? lol)...I hope the investigator was hired to "keep an eye" on her so if she did leave they know it!!