Why the fascination with Kimmer? #4

[Doodle_in_MA]

Originally Posted by Mommy2Many

I realize it's not the same thing ( happening for days at a time) - but he may be filing it the same way I did yesterday... Thursday morning I was 240, Saturday morning I was 250, this morning I'm back to 240. Guess who hit the bread basket on Friday..

Steph

That must have been some bread basket, Steph! Yummmmmmmm

[Mommy2Many]

Yeast rolls, honey butter, and everything.. and followed it up with a slice of coconut cream pie, a bite of chocolate, and a slice of pumpkin. Worth every bit of 10 lbs for a day.

Steph

ETA - And yes, I ate yesterday - straight induction.

[CarolynF]

Steph..And you were blaming just the bread..LOOL..Isn't it amazing how carbs can really
make you gain weight so quickly? Our bodies just grab at that glucose..But, many of us have found if we drink alot of water and eat clean the next few days, it will come off..

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by JoSkids

I think that Richard Simmons and Jenny Craigs' diets were developed by nutritionists/DRs - not themselves and then their names were attached to that WOE - correct me if I am wrong. And if their woe was bad and people were suffering ill effects, these "diets" wouldn't still be out there.

Also not to be snarky or mean but LisaInTn had posted on Kimkins she did tell a doctor what she was eating and had lost 33 lbs in 1 month. The doc was horrified and tried to advise her but she wouldn't have any of it. Rapid weight loss causes hair loss-it's hair ladies it will grow back. She also said she was on a different wl forum and left because others were advising her to eat more and that she had been lc'ing for years. I have Fibro and am on a strict vitamin & mineral supplementation. Anyone with a medical problem who will not listen to the concerns of a good doc is heading for trouble. My heart goes out to her and my best advice is to find a good doc that understands Fibro and listen to them about your disease. Another good place for FMS & CFS sufferers is prohealth.com. The owner has CFS and has products, especially supplementation that are geared for CFS and FMS sufferers. I think the symptoms of disordered eating were there before Kimkins was started. Kimkins appears to be a beacon or safe haven for the eating disordered and that is a very scary thing.

[stardust1]

I just found an interesting link, I don't know if it's been posted already.

www.ic3.gov/

[LISAinTN]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

Also not to be snarky or mean but LisaInTn had posted on Kimkins she did tell a doctor what she was eating and had lost 33 lbs in 1 month. The doc was horrified and tried to advise her but she wouldn't have any of it.

Hey, let's just wait a minute here, please. I haven't had time to respond to all the earlier posts to me, but I appreciate the wonderful welcome everyone gave me. I was treated so nicely last evening that it completely contradicted everything I had heard about this board. THAT being said, this post is the exact reason LCF is getting such a bad rap and the exact reason I have hesititated in participating here. I NEVER said my doctor was "horrified" by what I was eating and no he did NOT try and advise me to stop. PLEASE do tell me which post you saw that in on Kimkins and I will run, not walk there myself and copy it word for word and post it here. I told my doctor I was doing low-carb, low-fat. I believe I said while he was not completely thrilled that I had lost it so fast, he DID say that being overweight was worse for me. He also said I looked great and to keep up the great work. Now looking back, I never did tell him my calorie consumption was so low, so now maybe he would advise me otherwise, but I NEVER posted that he was "horrified". PLEASE DO NOT quote me incorrectly or post partial pieces of my posts here. Really, everyone was so nice to me last night, but this makes me never want to come here again.

Blessings,
Lisa

[wifezilla]

One person makes and error and you want to stomp off any never come back?

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

Hey, let's just wait a minute here, please. I haven't had time to respond to all the earlier posts to me, but I appreciate the wonderful welcome everyone gave me. I was treated so nicely last evening that it completely contradicted everything I had heard about this board. THAT being said, this post is the exact reason LCF is getting such a bad rap and the exact reason I have hesititated in participating here. I NEVER said my doctor was "horrified" by what I was eating and no he did NOT try and advise me to stop. PLEASE do tell me which post you saw that in on Kimkins and I will run, not walk there myself and copy it word for word and post it here. I told my doctor I was doing low-carb, low-fat. I believe I said while he was not completely thrilled that I had lost it so fast, he DID say that being overweight was worse for me. He also said I looked great and to keep up the great work. Now looking back, I never did tell him my calorie consumption was so low, so now maybe he would advise me otherwise, but I NEVER posted that he was "horrified". PLEASE DO NOT quote me incorrectly or post partial pieces of my posts here. Really, everyone was so nice to me last night, but this makes me never want to come here again.

Blessings,
Lisa

I am not meaning any disrespect at all but you posted you put your hand up and told your doc you didn't want to hear what they said. You also posted that being in the KE bootcamp caused your hair loss to stop. I am truly trying to understand the Kimkims fascination and I do read and research. I try to keep an open mind and listen with a compassionate ear but facts are facts. Please keep posting,especially about your experiences with Fibro and lc'ing. We all can benefit from your experiences. I hope you are starting to feel better.

[Mommy2Many]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Steph..And you were blaming just the bread..LOOL..Isn't it amazing how carbs can really
make you gain weight so quickly? Our bodies just grab at that glucose..But, many of us have found if we drink alot of water and eat clean the next few days, it will come off..

I'm a water drinking machine - almost 3 gallons a day because of kidney stones.. I ate clean the rest of Friday (I hit the buffet - ok? at 11) and all day Saturday. This morning, it was gone.

My body has ALWAYS been like that, though - I taught aerobics in college, had a body to die for - I went to a bbq one weekend with some friends, had my burger on a bun (which was a rarity), ate a piece of bday cake, and drank a beer - the next day I was up 11 lbs and looked bee stung all over. I lost it in 3 days.

It's been so long ago, I almost forgot about it - but now I know why I didn't weigh for a week after a cheat.

[LISAinTN]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

She also said she was on a different wl forum and left because others were advising her to eat more and that she had been lc'ing for years.

Just rereading your post and again, this is taken completely out of context. WHAT I said was that I had, before coming to Kimkins, been on another LC board where the owner was constantly telling me to eat more! At that time I was eating well over 1200 calories and was NOT hungry for more food. That woman wanted me to eat closer to 2000 calories. I kept telling her I was forcing myself to eat more which was exactly what had gotten me fat in the first place and I wasn't losing a thing. YOU make it sound like someone was trying to make me eat and I was choosing to starve myself to death or something. This woman's message board was VERY tiny because it ended up everyone thought she was way off base, too. If I'm already eating 1200 calories a day and I'm not hungry for any further food, is it wrong to not eat when someone is trying to force you to?? Again, PLEASE either quote me and post the entire post for all to judge, or don't quote me at all, please. Thank you.

[LISAinTN]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

One person makes and error and you want to stomp off any never come back?

An error? A completely fabricated falst statement is an error?

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by mama MIA

How about Heidi? For four years she has sat in front of her computer day after day and made post after post of pure BS. "Talk about addicitive personalities", she should get ONE and stick to it.

Dottie, we have all made great friendships over the years here together, I don't think Kimmer has one. Now, that should tell her members a lot, if they take notice. (Tippy gets paid,LOL!)

If any one is making fun of overweight people, it's Heidi. Every new member that pays her money, she is LHAO at. No lifetime membership, no one on one with Kimmer, EBoook???, maintenance plan (the one she told in podcast that she didn't have a month ago).

She made fun of posters here that couldn't follow her plan, they were weak. People that didn't lose a pound a day, she said lied about what they ate. ("Go eat a fatty cheeseburger)

She, right now, is making fun of every person sticking up for her and her diet.

This truth needs repeating!

[wifezilla]

Ok...I'll play along...even if she made it up out of thin air, that is ONE person. You would leave because of the comments of one person despite...

I was treated so nicely last evening that it completely contradicted everything I had heard about this board

I don't get it?!?

[LISAinTN]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

I am not meaning any disrespect at all but you posted you put your hand up and told your doc you didn't want to hear what they said. You also posted that being in the KE bootcamp caused your hair loss to stop. I am truly trying to understand the Kimkims fascination and I do read and research. I try to keep an open mind and listen with a compassionate ear but facts are facts. Please keep posting,especially about your experiences with Fibro and lc'ing. We all can benefit from your experiences. I hope you are starting to feel better.

You must be quoting another Lisa then because the day I joined Kimkins, I started Bootcamp for about 2 or 3 weeks. I can't remember for sure, but it was about that length of time and then I switched to K/E for the duration, so Boot Camp would not have stopped my hair loss because I started Boot Camp first. As a matter of fact, my hair loss started about about the 4 month mark and has continued since.

Blessings,
Lisa

[CarolynF]

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

An error? A completely fabricated falst statement is an error?

Lisa..If you care to, then post what you posted..We would love to read it. Please don't be angry.

[Mommy2Many]

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

.... If I'm already eating 1200 calories a day and I'm not hungry for any further food, is it wrong to not eat when someone is trying to force you to?? Again, PLEASE either quote me and post the entire post for all to judge, or don't quote me at all, please. Thank you.

FTR, LisainTN - I want to point you to the post here Atkins Nutritionals Interview (Repairing your Metabolism and more) about repairing your metabolism - 1200 calories, according to the Atkins interview, is too low and may cause your RMR to fall. That said, eat when and what you want to - I do, and there are several days when I dip below 1000- I just don't want anyone to miss that thread.




Steph

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

Just rereading your post and again, this is taken completely out of context. WHAT I said was that I had, before coming to Kimkins, been on another LC board where the owner was constantly telling me to eat more! At that time I was eating well over 1200 calories and was NOT hungry for more food. That woman wanted me to eat closer to 2000 calories. I kept telling her I was forcing myself to eat more which was exactly what had gotten me fat in the first place and I wasn't losing a thing. YOU make it sound like someone was trying to make me eat and I was choosing to starve myself to death or something. This woman's message board was VERY tiny because it ended up everyone thought she was way off base, too. If I'm already eating 1200 calories a day and I'm not hungry for any further food, is it wrong to not eat when someone is trying to force you to?? Again, PLEASE either quote me and post the entire post for all to judge, or don't quote me at all, please. Thank you.

Um not to debate this but you did state the doc got this horrified look on her face. I'm sorry these were your words not mine. Please don't take things so harshly-I'm not in the position to judge anyone or force my opinions on anyone-I'm just stating a fact.

[LISAinTN]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

I am not meaning any disrespect at all but you posted you put your hand up and told your doc you didn't want to hear what they said. You also posted that being in the KE bootcamp caused your hair loss to stop. I am truly trying to understand the Kimkims fascination and I do read and research. I try to keep an open mind and listen with a compassionate ear but facts are facts. Please keep posting,especially about your experiences with Fibro and lc'ing. We all can benefit from your experiences. I hope you are starting to feel better.

And BTW, my post said that the doctor that I put my hand up to was a DERMATOLOGIST. No, I am not going to listen to what a dermatolgist has to say about my weight loss. It said that in the post.

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

You must be quoting another Lisa then because the day I joined Kimkins, I started Bootcamp for about 2 or 3 weeks. I can't remember for sure, but it was about that length of time and then I switched to K/E for the duration, so Boot Camp would not have stopped my hair loss because I started Boot Camp first. As a matter of fact, my hair loss started about about the 4 month mark and has continued since.

Blessings,
Lisa

Same name LISAinTN-sorry if it isn't you.

[LISAinTN]

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Lisa..If you care to, then post what you posted..We would love to read it. Please don't be angry.

I was just looking, but couldn't find it. I had over 600 posts there. I tried for about 30 minutes to look, but I have to work today. I'd much rather look through my posts then work though. lol

Sorry, I didn't mean to get angry. It's just really bothersome when someone makes it look like you're doing/saying one thing when you really did/said something completely different. It kind of looks like some people are just sitting around trying to dig up dirt on everyone and then running here to post it. Even if I had said and done those things word for word, what does it matter now? What point does it serve to even tell it here? It sure doesn't make a person feel welcome. I am a victim of Kimkins too and already posted last night that I didn't think for myself and can't believe I didn't. I just don't see the point to dragging up things like this that weren't posted on this board in the first place and then repeating them here.

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by LISAinTN

I was just looking, but couldn't find it. I had over 600 posts there. I tried for about 30 minutes to look, but I have to work today. I'd much rather look through my posts then work though. lol

Sorry, I didn't mean to get angry. It's just really bothersome when someone makes it look like you're doing/saying one thing when you really did/said something completely different. It kind of looks like some people are just sitting around trying to dig up dirt on everyone and then running here to post it. Even if I had said and done those things word for word, what does it matter now? What point does it serve to even tell it here? It sure doesn't make a person feel welcome. I am a victim of Kimkins too and already posted last night that I didn't think for myself and can't believe I didn't. I just don't see the point to dragging up things like this that weren't posted on this board in the first place and then repeating them here.

No problem-I really hope you are feeling better soon. There is a great thread on rebuilding healthy ways of eating for those who have been on Kimkins. Kona Sunset is a great poster over there. Please check them out under the Kimmer Threads.

[LISAinTN]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

Um not to debate this but you did state the doc got this horrified look on her face. I'm sorry these were your words not mine. Please don't take things so harshly-I'm not in the position to judge anyone or force my opinions on anyone-I'm just stating a fact.

If I said something like that, it was because SHE was a dermatologist! That's what that entire thread was about. The fact that I got a rash when I started this diet. No, I was not going to listen to a dermatologist when it came to my weight and I did put my hand up and stop her. I was there to see her because of a rash, not my weight. Another post stated that I did go to my family doctor and I posted earlier what he said. For years he has been telling me to do LC. Thankfully he seems to be one of the few doctors that does. And like I said earlier, I did not tell him my calories were so low. If I told him that now, he probably would freak out. lol

[LISAinTN]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

Same name LISAinTN-sorry if it isn't you.

Could you please tell me where the post is so I can look at it, since you know where it is? I can't find it. I don't think I would have said that since I started with Boot Camp and ended with K/E.

[CarolynF]

LisainTN: Low carb IS the way to eat. I'm very convinced of this and will do it the rest of my life. You are lucky to have a dr. who agrees..We all tweak to find the right combination of fats/protein/carbs without undercutting our calories and still be healthy. We are happy to have you here..