Why the fascination with Kimmer? #4

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by thetruthinhiding

Does my new Avatar not just "melt" your heart?




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what a shameless attempt to make this "about you"

[wifezilla]

I began losing hair at an alarming rate. Now I know hair loss is not uncommon with a large weight loss but it really is at epidemic levels among kimkins members. Along with the hair loss and dizziness, the burst of energy I had in the beginning completely disappeared. I was lethargic and listless with a short attention span and mood swings. I would wake up in the middle of the night with my heart racing. I think now that was due to dehydration and mineral loss."

"My hair fell out. I was SNATT all the time. I experienced leg cramps on almost a daily basis–some so bad I nearly ended up calling 911. I could go days without eating, and I was proud of it (not sure I could call those days KK, tho) Hey, I was THIN! And at my age, that was Amazing! I did not care that I wasn’t giving my body the nutrition it needed to thrive–I was wearing size 4’s for the first time in my life."

"I couldn't help noticing a growing minority who were NOT doing well at all. [...] For many, their moods were poorer, their energy was down, and their weight loss was stalling more and more. Some complained of weakness and dizziness, even fainting. A few reported losing wads of hair. At least one posted that she had to be hospitalized. I saw many more signs of eating disordered thinking and behaviors."

Kimmer Identity Revealed - Kimkins Founder Identity

Hummm...I think I will believe these people over Kimmer or Kimkins supporters. But hey! That's just me.

[KimPossible]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

Kimmer Identity Revealed - Kimkins Founder Identity

Hummm...I think I will believe these people over Kimmer or Kimkins supporters. But hey! That's just me.

You know, I had dizzy spells too--but wrote it off b/c I saw it posted that this was normal, especially during SNATT...

It's amazing what body signals you'll write off as being trivial when you are losing weight and enjoying the results from that...

[Mariasol]

Originally Posted by Vandy J.

Yes it is ridiculous that I have to worry about being banned there, but do you think I worry about it less here? If I took the site admin to task and accused him of all kinds of things, would he and should he tolerate it? No.
If I get banned here or there, so be it.

Just for your information: There are many members, myself included, that were banned and lost their paid lifetime membership that did not post anything at all on kimkins.

[rebel]

It sure made me "melt" Truth.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by KimPossible

You know, I had dizzy spells too--but wrote it off b/c I saw it posted that this was normal, especially during SNATT...

It's amazing what body signals you'll write off as being trivial when you are losing weight and enjoying the results from that...

Not only because you're enjoying the results but because you're hearing over and over again that it's expected, normal, means you're doing it right.

[ixtapacheryl]

I am certainly not against any of the wonderful members at KK. I met a great group of women over there. Unfortunately many eventually developed health issues and started questioning the safety of her program. The posts were deleted quickly and people were being banned right and left (myself included).

This is not a "fight" between members of LCF and KK. There is too much evidence out there to prove that for SOME people this WOE is unhealthy. Add to that equation is the fact that the gal who claimed she lost all that weight in 12 short months turned out to be a fraud.

You know what's unfortunate about this entire mess is the fact that Heidi/Kimmer sends out her remaining members to defend her while she hides in her little apartment - not willing to come forward and prove that all we have uncovered is untrue. It would be so simple to put all these allegations to bed. Unfortunately she is not willing to take this step.

I pleaded with her to do just this when she banned me a few months ago. It fell on deaf ears.

[thetruthinhiding]

If Christin had a cardiac work-up and nobody found a "heart condition," that means her symptoms can be attributed to something non-cardiac, like a panic attack. There are decent meds out there to treat anxiety disorders like panic attack, so Christin might want to consider those medications to control her symptoms.

Overdramatic is right. The over-emotional bloviating from these three women (Deni, "littlebit," and Christin) is bordering on the hilarious. They have become caricatures of themselves. Putting out videos? Actively visually hallucinating and then sharing it with blog readers? Feeling slighted after they made independent decisions to work for this website?

Cue the very small violins. Yeesh.

melt

Nice.

[Mommy2Many]

Originally Posted by Purple Crayon

I second that. The only thing that should be removed is any indentifying information.

I would say Xd out as opposed to removed - that way there is still a cohesive flow to the statement.

With regards to propaganda being the only way something is played out - in my opinion, it is used to color one to your own point of view. Free speech and education both somewhat demand (IMHO) that the entire item be observed, researched, discussed - because otherwise I'm being accused of being unable to think for myself.

Also, I regret that anyones feelings were hurt by the (doctored) pictures of kimmer. I'd like to reiterate, though, that the mockery was not directed at her appearance but at her lies.

The domino effect, according to her words - and the real domino effect (which effects my rear end, too). The hairloss, as opposed to the hair care advice that she gave.

I don't make fun of fat people, but a liar promoting a plan based on nothing more than her dreams who is unconcerned by the fact that she may be killing people with the domino effect and there's no such thing as starvation - look at me... she's almost fair game, IMO.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I am certainly not against any of the wonderful members at KK. I met a great group of women over there. Unfortunately many eventually developed health issues and started questioning the safety of her program. The posts were deleted quickly and people were being banned right and left (myself included).

This is not a "fight" between members of LCF and KK. There is too much evidence out there to prove that for SOME people this WOE is unhealthy. Add to that equation is the fact that the gal who claimed she lost all that weight in 12 short months turned out to be a fraud.

You know what's unfortunate about this entire mess is the fact that Heidi/Kimmer sends out her remaining members to defend her while she hides in her little apartment - not willing to come forward and prove that all we have uncovered is untrue. It would be so simple to put all these allegations to bed. Unfortunately she is not willing to take this step.

I pleaded with her to do just this when she banned me a few months ago. It fell on deaf ears.

Oh, she certainly heard you. No deafness there or you wouldn't have gotten banned. She just wanted to silence you.

[Vandy J.]

Originally Posted by wifezilla

Kimmer Identity Revealed - Kimkins Founder Identity

Hummm...I think I will believe these people over Kimmer or Kimkins supporters. But hey! That's just me.

I will admit I am a skeptic to the core. I do not believe anything as gospel that is typed out on the internet by anybody. Not Pro-Kimkins or Anti-Kimkins. People can write and say anything they want, that does not make it fact. Because Kimmer claimed she lost all the weight and kept it off did not make it a fact. The same is true with all the claims made here and on any other forums or blogs. Proof to me is something that is acceptable in a court of law. Clear medical documentation. If you wanted to prove this case in a court of law you would have to produce far more in the way of proof than what ex-kimkins members are claiming. That being said, when so many people are raising the issue, I think a reasonable person investigates the claims. But I have no way to prove or disprove anything...... and the fact that people are switching back and forth so quickly is just crazy.

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by Piekinns

ETA: Cutie started it this time

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

See how she is?

*gasp*

[Jazlyn]

I want to ask the people who know kimmer is a fraud, but see nothing wrong with the diet, have you actually told your doctor what you are doing? My doctor had a cow. I was only on the diet for 3 weeks and I got sick enough to seek his advice. My hair hadn't started falling out (which is NOT trivial in my opinion) but I had terrible stomach pains, I was severly dehydrated, my face and lips were red and chapped, and I was so dizzy I would almost fall over when I walked.

My doctor told me the health risks from eating this way, not getting any exercize, and just drinking diet coke were substantial and that it was far more healthy to be at my weight, eating sensibly, and exercizing, than to be a starving toothpick who gets no exercize.

So I disagree (as does my doctor) that to get the weight off fast and at all costs is the way to go. Staying heavy isn't good but it seems that the desperate people who want the weight off NOW (like I was) aren't thinking of their health but of their appearance. Who doesn't want to look thin and sexy? But at what cost? Take a little time and be kind to the body that you have treated badly for so long by being heavy.

[GypsyVisions]

Originally Posted by Woman Typing Badly

Because it is not my post and I will not export the posts of others. For me I would feel violated of someone did that to me.

They posted on the internet. The internet is public, for all to see. If anyone wants to keep something private, don't post it on the internet. jmho.

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by thetruthinhiding

Nice.

Real Nice huh?

*Big Sigh*

Nite, Nite Everyone....Stay stafe and be kind !

[jezzie]

You know what's unfortunate about this entire mess is the fact that Heidi/Kimmer sends out her remaining members to defend her

Is there any room for you to consider that maybe they weren't sent by anyone?
That some people aren't inclined to 'group think' and prefer to think for themselves?
Isn't that a possibility?

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by sallyk

I knew you were going to come back at me on that one. But got busy with something else and forgot to edit. I agree with you on that one, but for some of us, we can not keep up with all the threads, so taking out of context and posting, yes that may be the only part that is read. I myself have been a victim of that, where someone quotes just part of what I said, and then makes me look bad. So can certainly understand it!! But I do think that it shouldn't be such a big issue, as it happens all the time and sometimes it is to just make your post shorter, not to leave out stuff, because one feels the need to only print to prove their point. Am I making any sense???

I agree with you because I've done the same thing. At times when the post I am replying to is very long - I will just shorten it so it doesn't take up too much space. I really don't look at what I am deleting while in the process of making it shorter.

[MyCannelloni]

Originally Posted by KimPossible

You know, I had dizzy spells too--but wrote it off b/c I saw it posted that this was normal, especially during SNATT...

It's amazing what body signals you'll write off as being trivial when you are losing weight and enjoying the results from that...

I remember one late afternoon in summer 2006 when I was dizzy and knew from Fitday that I'd only eaten a few hundred calories that day. In my head I debated about whether I should eat more. I wasn't hungry, and my loss had been so good that I was weighing less than I had as a thin high school graduate. If I went to bed without eating anything else, who knew what delights the scale might have in store for me in the morning. I could be down another half pound, or a pound! I ambled around my kitchen, feeling woozy and disoriented, trying to figure out if I eating a snack was what I really wanted.

I finally remembered that I had to drive my children somewhere in the evening and decided to eat "just in case" I was on the verge of passing out. In the back of my mind I knew there was something wrong with my thinking, but I had a lot of denial. My older sister was anorexic, but me? I was on Kimkins. I was SNATT - a good thing!

I totally relate to what you posted.

[Vandy J.]

Originally Posted by Mariasol

Just for your information: There are many members, myself included, that were banned and lost their paid lifetime membership that did not post anything at all on kimkins.

Let me be clear, I think the banning is a ridiculous thing...period. It is quite controlling and paranoid. But this site has also banned and edited posters...it is their right. I was given a stern warning on this forum once because I posted a link to what I thought was a harmless oxycise site. I do not make excuses for this bad practice, and it has gotten completely out of control at KK.

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I am certainly not against any of the wonderful members at KK. I met a great group of women over there. Unfortunately many eventually developed health issues and started questioning the safety of her program. The posts were deleted quickly and people were being banned right and left (myself included).

This is not a "fight" between members of LCF and KK. There is too much evidence out there to prove that for SOME people this WOE is unhealthy. Add to that equation is the fact that the gal who claimed she lost all that weight in 12 short months turned out to be a fraud.

You know what's unfortunate about this entire mess is the fact that Heidi/Kimmer sends out her remaining members to defend her while she hides in her little apartment - not willing to come forward and prove that all we have uncovered is untrue. It would be so simple to put all these allegations to bed. Unfortunately she is not willing to take this step.

I pleaded with her to do just this when she banned me a few months ago. It fell on deaf ears.

if you're referring to vandy and womantypingbadly being here this evening...i think you're incorrect to assume they are sent here by heidi

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by jezzie

Is there any room for you to consider that maybe they weren't sent by anyone?
That some people aren't inclined to 'group think' and prefer to think for themselves?
Isn't that a possibility?

Possibly! I guess what upsets me is she is content to let this all continue without her making it so much easier on her paying members by coming forward with the truth. I hope that makes sense ..... having a senior moment!

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by jezzie

Is there any room for you to consider that maybe they weren't sent by anyone?
That some people aren't inclined to 'group think' and prefer to think for themselves?
Isn't that a possibility?

i agree with that!

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by Cutie

*gasp*

I hope you know I was kidding.... You are so sweet (look at my Winks)

nite, nite

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by Vandy J.

I will admit I am a skeptic to the core. I do not believe anything as gospel that is typed out on the internet by anybody. Not Pro-Kimkins or Anti-Kimkins. People can write and say anything they want, that does not make it fact. Because Kimmer claimed she lost all the weight and kept it off did not make it a fact. The same is true with all the claims made here and on any other forums or blogs. Proof to me is something that is acceptable in a court of law. Clear medical documentation. If you wanted to prove this case in a court of law you would have to produce far more in the way of proof than what ex-kimkins members are claiming. That being said, when so many people are raising the issue, I think a reasonable person investigates the claims. But I have no way to prove or disprove anything...... and the fact that people are switching back and forth so quickly is just crazy.

Maybe you can get a better feel for what is what if you consider the character of the person who is making any claim. Were you at KK before Becky, Christin, and Deni left? What did you think of them when they were there? Did they seem like compassionate, caring admins? How do you feel about Kimmer, the new admins?