Why the fascination with Kimmer? #4 - Page 40

jenna... · 09-29-2007, 09:41 AM

Here's to you Melt

and finally...

CarolynF · 09-29-2007, 09:41 AM

Melt's Computer:

CarolynF · 09-29-2007, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoSkids

Any news from Dr Pescatore (The Hampton's Diet) yet?

I wrote him several months back and never got a reply. I doubt if HE was ever interviewed for that article because Kimkins is the opposite of his MacNut Oil diet.

I would hope you guys would get an answer, though.

xf89 · 09-29-2007, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Melt's Computer:

That's why the site was down for a bit yesterday.

MidwestMommy · 09-29-2007, 10:09 AM

Just my 2 cents, but I am guessing that Melt is someone like TRUTH, at the kimkins site "undercover" Think about it, if you want to get "the dirt" wouldn't it be wise to go in as someone that acts/speaks like Kimmer, that way they can get close to Heidi. I think I read somewhere here where it said We will know the truth but at first it might pizz you off (or something along those lines)

To me, logic says Melt is not this mean random kimkins person, but instead a plant from someone on the good side of this mess. Like they always say Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer" Pretend to be someone like Heidi and say that you stand for the same things she does and there you are, you fit into their "group"

Just my opinion, not that it matters.

catkan · 09-29-2007, 10:09 AM

I didn't realize til now.... Singinglass is a member here.

conbofan9 · 09-29-2007, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MidwestMommy

Just my 2 cents, but I am guessing that Melt is someone like TRUTH, at the kimkins site "undercover" Think about it, if you want to get "the dirt" wouldn't it be wise to go in as someone that acts/speaks like Kimmer, that way they can get close to Heidi. I think I read somewhere here where it said We will know the truth but at first it might pizz you off (or something along those lines)

.

my only question about this whole Melt this is this: Kimmer seemed to trust tippy a lot, but now with the new Pms that were leaked, we see that she trusts melt a whole lot more!! they are the only 2 people that have access to PMs, now, can someone go see how long Melt has been a member? Tippy and Kimmer knew each other from here, long time ago. I just find it hard to believe that Kimmer would trust Melt so much and they just MET... KWIM? I just find the whole thing fishy fishy....

ok, need to get off this thing to shower and going to friends for dinner... hope nothing NEW developes cause i wont be back here until tomorrow..

CarolynF · 09-29-2007, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catkan

I didn't realize til now.... Singinglass is a member here.

Oh..does she post as Singinglass? I knew she popped in to see what was going on..

jenna... · 09-29-2007, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conbofan9

my only question about this whole Melt this is this: Kimmer seemed to trust tippy a lot, but now with the new Pms that were leaked, we see that she trusts melt a whole lot more!! they are the only 2 people that have access to PMs, now, can someone go see how long Melt has been a member? Tippy and Kimmer knew each other from here, long time ago. I just find it hard to believe that Kimmer would trust Melt so much and they just MET... KWIM? I just find the whole thing fishy fishy....

ok, need to get off this thing to shower and going to friends for dinner... hope nothing NEW developes cause i wont be back here until tomorrow..

Melt?!?! I thougth it was just Kimmer trusting Singinglass.

I think Melt is just a rude, angry woman who is currying favor with Kimmer to become the next admin.

Melly · 09-29-2007, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crohnie

Why is Tippy not banned from here since she is going after Netrition??

Hi Michele......long time no see or talk to

I hope you are doing well

Tippy IS banned from here and it is due to a threatening email that she sent to an Admin here.....ME!!!!! I am not positive but the netrition stuff didn't come until afterwards......don't quote me on that but I think that is right.....if it isn't someone will say so I am sure

susyhammer · 09-29-2007, 10:19 AM

Mycanneloni - you took the words right out of my mouth! I agree with everything you've said.

I joined LCF in May 2004 and lurked every day. Kimmer was a prominent figure on the site at that time. She "fascinated" me even then – she was so full of contradictions. Never drank water; went on water fasts. Was touted as so sweet and kind and helpful but mostly seemed (to me) rude and confrontational.

She always seemed slightly fishy, too. I even told my husband – I’d sure like to see a current picture of this paragon. Then when her picture popped up I thought – darn! Of course she’s gorgeous. (One trait of a good con artist besides great charisma is physical attractiveness – people respond more favorably to “pretty” people.) Then I thought – is that really TRULY her??? It was a mystery, and people were calling her on it.

In fact lots of people seemed to butt heads with her. I almost always agreed with them…I thought she was dangerous and couldn’t believe people actually listened to her. Sadly, dissenters sometimes seemed to disappear soon after a confrontation. I’ve learned by now that posters come and go like puffs of air but at the time it seemed a wee bit sinister.

And I have to say, I never once posted because I was sooo scared of her. I’m horribly shy anyway but the thought of being noticed by the great Kimmer terrified me.

I was not even a teeny bit surprised when I saw the “real” Kimmer. She was exactly as I’d envisioned her from the way she wrote. It’s sad that this woman, this con artist, has been able to fool so many for so long. I live in hope that the end is near. Because the diet this woman sells is not a “WOE” but rather a “WONE” (way of NOT eating). Nothing more than a recipe for anorexia.

Please, everyone, keep up the good work!
Susy

silversunfire · 09-29-2007, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Oh..does she post as Singinglass? I knew she popped in to see what was going on..

Yes her handle is singinglass here too. She hasn't actually posted since June though.

CarolynF · 09-29-2007, 10:27 AM

Just peeks in and checks us out, Shari, I'm sure..

Mariasol · 09-29-2007, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melly

Tippy IS banned from here and it is due to a threatening email that she sent to an Admin here.....ME!!!!! I am not positive but the netrition stuff didn't come until afterwards......don't quote me on that but I think that is right.....if it isn't someone will say so I am sure

You are absolutely right; she didn't add the "boycott netrition" to her signature until after she found out she was banned. I remember reading her post on kimkins (when I still had access

) where she said that she "had chosen to leave LCF" and she didn't have it in her signature then. Must have added it shortly afterwards (when she had figured out how to edit her signature in the first place

).

catkan · 09-29-2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Just peeks in and checks us out, Shari, I'm sure..

Looks like it. Okay, I am out of here now (at least for the afternoon!)

silversunfire · 09-29-2007, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolynF

Just peeks in and checks us out, Shari, I'm sure..

Prob more than just a peek.

CarolynF · 09-29-2007, 10:52 AM

Here's a peek from the KK site:

Quote:
To Kimmer:
I follow this plan, I find it to be sound and reasonable. It works, and I still have plenty of hair on my head and a lot less junk in my trunk. But the way this whole mess has been handled is a complete and utter diservice to the people who needed this place to come and have a good support and positive reinforcement to use a plan that works.
Kimmer, I do not know who you are or anything about you. I do know that the plan that you pitch does work. But when such serious accusations come up about you and your validity as the person you have presented yourself to be to the thousands who follow this plan....... I think you have an obligation to address it. You did _base_ this plan and promote it on your own personal experience and success, and that makes it fair game for people to ask questions about you. The fact that you have refused to address it has lead to the self destruction of a very nice site. It has allowed seeds of doubt and dissension to grow completely out of control. It has allowed your accusers to build a very strong case as to your truthfulness with your customers. It will destroy this forum and for that I am very sad. I couldn't care less about the money I paid to join, I got my moneys worth many times over. The knowledge you gave me will never go away. I now know how to successfully lose weight. But, I don't feel good coming here anymore. There is a mean, defensive spirit that has taken over. I cannot go to the other sites because I cannot stand the tactics they are using. I do offer Thanks to you Kimmer, because whether you meant to or not, your plan has helped me in many ways. It will help me in the future to gain control of my weight. But, please..... for yourself and for the people who have trusted you. Address these charges. Come clean, or prove them wrong. You owe it to yourself, and to the rest of us.

********

Kimmer, all through my Kimkins journey, I have defended you tooth and nail. I too own my own business and I thought all the people asking questions and such were being rude and had no right to call you out in public the way they would over your name, your photo's, etc. But Kimmer, things are starting to change. Maybe they saw something I didn't, or maybe they are seeing something that's not there. I just don't know. I have read that you have said you won't fold to these people, that you just choose to ignore them so they'll go away. That works to a point Kimmer. It has come so far now that you owe it to your customers to prove the "haters" wrong, if they are indeed wrong. This is your chance to go on TV or meet with some longtime, reputable Kimkins members or admins from the early days and get some photo's taken to make this all go away. It's not just about you Kimmer........it's about what you owe your customers! It's your chance to say "SEE! I told you, you were wrong. Are you satisfied now?"! It no longer makes sense Kimmer, that you would continue to refuse to prove everyone wrong. That is the ONE thing that has swayed me to start to wonder if this all has been a scam. Staying quiet and not disproving the rumors makes you look like you're guilty. Kimmer, if this has all been a scam and it just snowballed out of control before you could stop it, PLEASE step up now and do the right thing and stop this. It will only be worse for you later if you wait until someone, like the authorities, steps in and makes you stop. Like I said, it's the one thing making me question all of this. You can bet if someone was trying to destroy my business in this way, I would be doing EVERYTHING to guard what I have worked so hard to build up. If all these rumors aren't true, why would you risk your entire business, your livelihood, your reputation, etc. by not coming forward to prove a few things wrong. Just because we have internet businesses and people can't walk into our brick and mortar storefront, doesn't mean they shouldn't truly know who we are. Our customers have every right to know who they're dealing with. They're paying us!

****************

Yes even dear ol' Fawn who declared Kimmer a hero and saint decided she couldn't stand all the friction here and decided to join her friends who had moved to another forum. Think that was just a week ago but things here have deteriated quickly....threads pulled, members banned for asking questions.. yet a couple of very obnoxious posters live on and go from thread to thread being aultrustic and insulting. Somehow I feel like I'm in a prison when I come here now and that is a shame.

*****************

(from SingingLass, about disabled PMs)

Admins are not in direct contact with the technical team, so we do not have exact estimates for when it will be back and up....but we are looking forward to having the system restored and updated as well ( I have quite a few in there _b_link__ing at me).
__________________

wifezilla · 09-29-2007, 11:00 AM

Quote:

I was not even a teeny bit surprised when I saw the “real” Kimmer. She was exactly as I’d envisioned her from the way she wrote

The quote my hero, Captain Malcomb Reynolds "Tis a burden, being right so often."

As for Tippy's boycott...LOL...I have a bag of hazelnut meal, some poly-d, stevia drink mix, some erythritol, and some Raspberry Sugar-Free Da VInci's syrup that says it aint gonna work!

(Besides, who else offers such a great shipping structure....a flat fee of $4.95? MY GOD! That's almost unheard of!!!)

CarolynF · 09-29-2007, 11:09 AM

Zilla, I just received my Netrition order the other day..Too bad I was too ill to make something yummy...like Kevin's puff pastry..

That post above is so sad..KIMMER SHOW YOURSELF AND PROVE THEM WRONG..Has this gal been under a rock or what?

Carolina Rose · 09-29-2007, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wifezilla

The quote my hero, Captain Malcomb Reynolds "Tis a burden, being right so often."

Ahhhh! Every thread's better with a little Capt. Mal in it .... *sigh*

I'm still mad at FOX for cancelling Drive after what ... 3 shows?

Regarding Netrition .... I live out in the boonies and it's the ONLY place I'll buy my Designer Whey and flax meal from. Can't beat that 4.95 and they're so FAST!

jenna ~ love that new avi!

And, Carolyn, I always love seeing your new "cheezburger" creations!

freyamoon · 09-29-2007, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juniper01

Well well.......the truth blog says that "melt" doesn't like puppies and kitties......... Here's to you, MELT!

Well, Maybe my new kitty will scare her then? hehehehe!
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jenna... · 09-29-2007, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freyamoon

Well, Maybe my new kitty will scare her then? hehehehe!

Scares me.

Mayberryfan · 09-29-2007, 11:39 AM

Hey everyone,

Hope you're having a great weekend. I just came back from a trip to Ghostville, formerly known as KK's and there have only been 18 active threads in the past 12 hours or so. It used to be 100 or more in the past 4 hours.

So, take heart! The Kimpire will fall! It's just a matter of time.

boogie · 09-29-2007, 11:39 AM

Well I have honestly never even checked out the Netrition website, but Guess what???

Tippy your boycott backfired!!! Your boycott made me check out the site and they will be having a new customer because of you - ME!

09-29-2007, 10:09 AM	#1175
MidwestMommy Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 96 Gallery: MidwestMommy Stats: 280/228/150 WOE: I like having hair and a healthy heart Start Date: Aug 20 2007	Just my 2 cents, but I am guessing that Melt is someone like TRUTH, at the kimkins site "undercover" Think about it, if you want to get "the dirt" wouldn't it be wise to go in as someone that acts/speaks like Kimmer, that way they can get close to Heidi. I think I read somewhere here where it said We will know the truth but at first it might pizz you off (or something along those lines) To me, logic says Melt is not this mean random kimkins person, but instead a plant from someone on the good side of this mess. Like they always say Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer" Pretend to be someone like Heidi and say that you stand for the same things she does and there you are, you fit into their "group" Just my opinion, not that it matters. __________________ *To eat is a necessity, but to eat intelligently is an art.*

09-29-2007, 10:19 AM	#1181
susyhammer Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 79 Gallery: susyhammer Stats: 170/115/130 5'6.5" WOE: Dr. A, all the way! Start Date: May 2004	Mycanneloni - you took the words right out of my mouth! I agree with everything you've said. I joined LCF in May 2004 and lurked every day. Kimmer was a prominent figure on the site at that time. She "fascinated" me even then – she was so full of contradictions. Never drank water; went on water fasts. Was touted as so sweet and kind and helpful but mostly seemed (to me) rude and confrontational. She always seemed slightly fishy, too. I even told my husband – I’d sure like to see a current picture of this paragon. Then when her picture popped up I thought – darn! Of course she’s gorgeous. (One trait of a good con artist besides great charisma is physical attractiveness – people respond more favorably to “pretty” people.) Then I thought – is that really TRULY her??? It was a mystery, and people were calling her on it. In fact lots of people seemed to butt heads with her. I almost always agreed with them…I thought she was dangerous and couldn’t believe people actually listened to her. Sadly, dissenters sometimes seemed to disappear soon after a confrontation. I’ve learned by now that posters come and go like puffs of air but at the time it seemed a wee bit sinister. And I have to say, I never once posted because I was sooo scared of her. I’m horribly shy anyway but the thought of being noticed by the great Kimmer terrified me. I was not even a teeny bit surprised when I saw the “real” Kimmer. She was exactly as I’d envisioned her from the way she wrote. It’s sad that this woman, this con artist, has been able to fool so many for so long. I live in hope that the end is near. Because the diet this woman sells is not a “WOE” but rather a “WONE” (way of NOT eating). Nothing more than a recipe for anorexia. Please, everyone, keep up the good work! Susy __________________ Everyone is someone.

09-29-2007, 09:41 AM	#1171
jenna... Senior LCF Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sunny SoCal Posts: 973 Gallery: jenna... Stats: 248/212/148 - 5'7.5" & 52yrs WOE: LowCal - LowCarb Start Date: 06/02/2008 Mid Yr 2008 Challenge	Here's to you Melt and finally...

09-29-2007, 09:41 AM	#1172
CarolynF Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 19,585 Gallery: CarolynF Stats: 195/144/139 WOE: Eat Fat, Get Thin/I Can Make You Thin Start Date: January 2001	Melt's Computer:

09-29-2007, 10:09 AM	#1176
catkan Senior LCF Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 804 Gallery: catkan WOE: mod carbs	I didn't realize til now.... Singinglass is a member here.

09-29-2007, 10:27 AM	#1183
CarolynF Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 19,585 Gallery: CarolynF Stats: 195/144/139 WOE: Eat Fat, Get Thin/I Can Make You Thin Start Date: January 2001	Just peeks in and checks us out, Shari, I'm sure..

09-29-2007, 10:52 AM	#1187
CarolynF Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 19,585 Gallery: CarolynF Stats: 195/144/139 WOE: Eat Fat, Get Thin/I Can Make You Thin Start Date: January 2001	Here's a peek from the KK site: Quote: To Kimmer: I follow this plan, I find it to be sound and reasonable. It works, and I still have plenty of hair on my head and a lot less junk in my trunk. But the way this whole mess has been handled is a complete and utter diservice to the people who needed this place to come and have a good support and positive reinforcement to use a plan that works. Kimmer, I do not know who you are or anything about you. I do know that the plan that you pitch does work. But when such serious accusations come up about you and your validity as the person you have presented yourself to be to the thousands who follow this plan....... I think you have an obligation to address it. You did _base_ this plan and promote it on your own personal experience and success, and that makes it fair game for people to ask questions about you. The fact that you have refused to address it has lead to the self destruction of a very nice site. It has allowed seeds of doubt and dissension to grow completely out of control. It has allowed your accusers to build a very strong case as to your truthfulness with your customers. It will destroy this forum and for that I am very sad. I couldn't care less about the money I paid to join, I got my moneys worth many times over. The knowledge you gave me will never go away. I now know how to successfully lose weight. But, I don't feel good coming here anymore. There is a mean, defensive spirit that has taken over. I cannot go to the other sites because I cannot stand the tactics they are using. I do offer Thanks to you Kimmer, because whether you meant to or not, your plan has helped me in many ways. It will help me in the future to gain control of my weight. But, please..... for yourself and for the people who have trusted you. Address these charges. Come clean, or prove them wrong. You owe it to yourself, and to the rest of us. ****** Kimmer, all through my Kimkins journey, I have defended you tooth and nail. I too own my own business and I thought all the people asking questions and such were being rude and had no right to call you out in public the way they would over your name, your photo's, etc. But Kimmer, things are starting to change. Maybe they saw something I didn't, or maybe they are seeing something that's not there. I just don't know. I have read that you have said you won't fold to these people, that you just choose to ignore them so they'll go away. That works to a point Kimmer. It has come so far now that you owe it to your customers to prove the "haters" wrong, if they are indeed wrong. This is your chance to go on TV or meet with some longtime, reputable Kimkins members or admins from the early days and get some photo's taken to make this all go away. It's not just about you Kimmer........it's about what you owe your customers! It's your chance to say "SEE! I told you, you were wrong. Are you satisfied now?"! It no longer makes sense Kimmer, that you would continue to refuse to prove everyone wrong. That is the ONE thing that has swayed me to start to wonder if this all has been a scam. Staying quiet and not disproving the rumors makes you look like you're guilty. Kimmer, if this has all been a scam and it just snowballed out of control before you could stop it, PLEASE step up now and do the right thing and stop this. It will only be worse for you later if you wait until someone, like the authorities, steps in and makes you stop. Like I said, it's the one thing making me question all of this. You can bet if someone was trying to destroy my business in this way, I would be doing EVERYTHING to guard what I have worked so hard to build up. If all these rumors aren't true, why would you risk your entire business, your livelihood, your reputation, etc. by not coming forward to prove a few things wrong. Just because we have internet businesses and people can't walk into our brick and mortar storefront, doesn't mean they shouldn't truly know who we are. Our customers have every right to know who they're dealing with. They're paying us! ************ Yes even dear ol' Fawn who declared Kimmer a hero and saint decided she couldn't stand all the friction here and decided to join her friends who had moved to another forum. Think that was just a week ago but things here have deteriated quickly....threads pulled, members banned for asking questions.. yet a couple of very obnoxious posters live on and go from thread to thread being aultrustic and insulting. Somehow I feel like I'm in a prison when I come here now and that is a shame. *************** (from SingingLass, about disabled PMs) Admins are not in direct contact with the technical team, so we do not have exact estimates for when it will be back and up....but we are looking forward to having the system restored and updated as well ( I have quite a few in there _b_link__ing at me). __________________

09-29-2007, 11:09 AM	#1189
CarolynF Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 19,585 Gallery: CarolynF Stats: 195/144/139 WOE: Eat Fat, Get Thin/I Can Make You Thin Start Date: January 2001	Zilla, I just received my Netrition order the other day..Too bad I was too ill to make something yummy...like Kevin's puff pastry.. That post above is so sad..KIMMER SHOW YOURSELF AND PROVE THEM WRONG..Has this gal been under a rock or what?

09-29-2007, 11:39 AM	#1193
Mayberryfan MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,442 Gallery: Mayberryfan Stats: 255/204/150 WOE: PPLP Start Date: June 6, 2007	Hey everyone, Hope you're having a great weekend. I just came back from a trip to Ghostville, formerly known as KK's and there have only been 18 active threads in the past 12 hours or so. It used to be 100 or more in the past 4 hours. So, take heart! The Kimpire will fall! It's just a matter of time.

09-29-2007, 11:39 AM	#1194
boogie Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Las Vegas, BaBy! Posts: 964 Gallery: boogie WOE: diabetic diet	Well I have honestly never even checked out the Netrition website, but Guess what??? Tippy your boycott backfired!!! Your boycott made me check out the site and they will be having a new customer because of you - ME!