Why the fascination with Kimmer? #4

[CarolynF]

Originally Posted by Dottie

I am giving an opinion, I have no inside information that anyone claiming this at the other site is doing this but: it's easy to say "yeah my doctor knows about my eating". If you tell your doctor "I'm eating lean meats and veggies" they'll probably jump all over themselves saying "good for you".. now, be totally honest and say "I'm eating lean meat and veggies, but only 500 calories a day" and see what THAT reaction is.
There's a huge gap in "My doctor know what I eat" and "My doctor KNOWS what I eat".

Exactly, Dottie..Kimkinners should say "I'm eating 500 calories a day..Is this okay?" Or whatever the number is..THEN those doctors would wake up
and say WHAT????

Or the peeps should ask the doctors HOW many calories should they eat for weight loss..ITA..Cheri had a great interview with Colette H. from Atkins Nutritionals on the ML saying how important it is to actually EAT food..

[bizzymom]

That's Heidi for sure
The only one who ever brings up the money aspect of this..what about the girl's health?!?

[Mommy2Many]

Originally Posted by pazinhim

I've had it with everything. There's just no more denying it. Here is my last post on Kimkins. Thank you for everyone who has contributed to getting the truth out!

Topic Line: Kimkins is the best diet ever!

Is what I would have said three months ago. You see, about three months ago, I was 42 lbs lighter, only 35 lbs away from my goal weight. I was thrilled to have finally found something that works for me.

Then one day, while at work, I almost passed out. Employees said I looked white as a ghost. I justfied the episode somehow in my mind and moved on.

About a month ago, I noticed small pains in my chest area. Sort of like little “twangs”. I can no longer ignore these pains as they are undoubtably becoming more frequent.

I cannot ignore my body any longer. I cannot ignore that nagging feeling that “something is just not quite right” with Kimmer and the Kimkins diet.

I cannot ignore the overwhelming evidence that Kimmer did not lose the weight she claims she did. I used to say “I don’t care if Kimmer is a robot, this diet works!” I tried to justify the facts. If Kimmer is telling the truth why does she not produce more before and after pics to put an end to this whole thing once and for all? Let’s think about this logically: Look at your own weight loss and what an accomplishment it is. Remember how great it feels? You’ve worked hard to accomplish something and are proud of what you did. You want people to see your before and after pics because you are proud of yourself. Yet Kimmer refuses to provide those pics? The ugly reality is she can’t produce any current pics because she does not have any. Not one.

I cannot ignore the harmful advice that she has given me and countless others to keep calories and fat as low as possible. After all, gastric bypass patients eat as low as 500 cals a day she would say. I now know that they are under strick doctor’s care and, they up their calories to normal ranges within the first 1-2 months. She would also say things such as “there is no such thing as starvation mode”. I wanted to believe it, too. It’s not true.

I cannot ignore the health issues that other people are having on this diet. You could hear Christin (WW cover girl) in her own words here: The Journey. As you listen, truly ask yourself what could possibly be her motivation for saying what she says. Money? She lost money by leaving Kimkins. Fame? She already had it due to her being on the cover of WW. Take a listen and let me know what you think is truly motivating her to say what she is saying.

I cannot ignore the current Kimkins admins and members who praise Kimmer and the diet. It’s sickening. It’s sickening not only because they are deceived but it’s sickening because those same people will most likely be writing something very similar to this once they too realize how deceptive Kimmer is and how dangerous the diet truly is. The very ones who lose the weight quickly will most likely have the same symptoms that are being reported by tons of other people.

I cannot ignore my own emotions and feelings about the entire ordeal. Who would have known, though?? Kimmer gave me something that nobody else had ever given me: HOPE. Hope that I could do lose the weight and keep it off. Kimmer gave me hope that this is a WOE that I could follow the rest of my life. Kimmer gave me hope that I could be thin again. She gave me hope that I could be finally freed of my addiction to eating. But guess what? It was a false hope because she never lost the weight. It was a lie. And now I’m left praying that the symptoms I’m experiencing will go away once I renoursh my body.

My sincere prayer is that what I’ve written will reach at least one person. I beg you now: If you too have been having that “gut” feeling, you know which one I’m talking about, please do your research. www.kimkinsexposed.com. Do not be afraid to get off of the plan is a wonderful tool. Pray for wisdom. HE will provide it to those who ask. Let my last words on this forum ring in your ears:

This is a DANGEROUS diet and Kimmer is lying to you.

I'm a billion pages behind right now - but in case no one else has told you ( at me) there are several low carb diets for which basic instructions and tons of support are available in this forum.

*hugs*
Steph

[Doodle_in_MA]

Originally Posted by bizzymom

That's Heidi for sure
The only one who ever brings up the money aspect of this..what about the girl's health?!?

I know! I'm so mad. I responded.

Christin is having serious health issues from her weight loss. She is trying to help others to approach weight loss in a safer manner. How is that self serving?

[jayed]

Originally Posted by Doodle_in_MA

OH. MY. GAWD.

This is posted at KK in response to Christin's blog video:

"Self serving crap.
There is nothing I dislike more than self-professed Christians who use their faith as a shield behind which they try to destroy others. This is not a holy war.
This is grown people making informed decisions about their lives.
I find it ironic that a woman who publicly proclaimed that this WOE is what worked for her is now leading a crusade against it. She did lose weight on this WOE and is still alive & apparently healthy but now feels the need to protest and proclaim the dangers of the very WOE that she PUBLICLY PROCLAIMED as what worked for her.
What I see is that her problem has to do with BUSINESS TACTICS more so than the so-called health dangers of this WOE.
Why isn't there an internet backlash against the grapefruit diet? The cabbage soup diet? The rice diet? Or any of the other fads that have come down the pipe?
THIS WOE is just another version of several that are or have been popular in recent memory. If an admin or staffer has a problem with the business tactics of the owner, then they should quit, get another job & stop whining.
If anything happens to this site that is not the result of the express decision of the owner, I will probably waste a couple of minutes being angry with the whiners & haters who led the charge but I WILL NOT STOP THIS WOE.
It is working for me.
It has not harmed my health.
And I am a grown, intelligent, self directed & God fearing woman.
If this brings me some criticism so be it.
I am a "big" girl (but not for long!) and I can take it."

Heidi as one of her new personas??

[jayed]

Originally Posted by Doodle_in_MA

I know! I'm so mad. I responded.

Christin is having serious health issues from her weight loss. She is trying to help others to approach weight loss in a safer manner. How is that self serving?

Good for you Carrie. How you're still alive over there I'll never know.

[Dottie]

Christin lost the weight, but she also lost her health. Anyone she can 'reach' to prevent that from happening to them .. well, I hope she can reach a lot of people.

[Doodle_in_MA]

Originally Posted by jayed

Good for you Carrie. How you're still alive over there I'll never know.

I told you. I am special

[little_miss]

My heart goes out to Christin and anyone else who suffered major complications from kimkins, but my question is when does it become OK to look at a diet on the internet or in a magazine (knowing every diet is NOT for every person) and read "wow, I may only be consuming 300 calories a day, let me do this diet..." and then losing the weight and complaining "wow..I only ate 300 calories a day..why did I do this.." There are many diets on the market, diet pills ect. Some including drugs that are now banned but people CHOSE to take them anyway knowing they might suffer problems down the road. I mean what did you expect eating only 300 calories a day? Im just asking where does personal responsibility come in here?

[bizzymom]

Originally Posted by Doodle_in_MA

I know! I'm so mad. I responded.

Christin is having serious health issues from her weight loss. She is trying to help others to approach weight loss in a safer manner. How is that self serving?

You go Doodle...Christin's trouble especially breaks my heart. She is THE face of this diet, and the sweetest person ever on the boards over there, long before she was an admin. It's despicable. And all of here stickies are still up. How is that possible?

[centralpa]

Methinks it's high time to change avatars ... not sure why??!!

cheers,
Wendy

[Dottie]

Originally Posted by little_miss

My heart goes out to Christin and anyone else who suffered major complications from kimkins, but my question is when does it become OK to look at a diet on the internet or in a magazine (knowing every diet is NOT for every person) and read "wow, I may only be consuming 300 calories a day, let me do this diet..." and then losing the weight and complaining "wow..I only ate 300 calories a day..why did I do this.." There are many diets on the market, diet pills ect. Some including drugs that are now banned but people CHOSE to take them anyway knowing they might suffer problems down the road. I mean what did you expect eating only 300 calories a day? Im just asking where does personal responsibility come in here?

You're absolutely right.. but it's easy to fall into the trap when you see others being successful, claiming they're healthy, saying their doctors approve the plan. Kimmer is really good at making the info she posts look good, too. I remember she always had a web site or study to show what she was saying was 'real'.

[Mommy2Many]

Originally Posted by freyamoon

Ok. This is off topic really. But that part makes me curious. I have REALLY BIG BOOBS! And not the same size. One is DD and one is DDD(e).

First question for those who have lost a lot of weight (50 pounds or more) Do your boobs really shrink? Because that would be a blessing. How much did/are/do they shrinking for you? And will they deflate and get terribly saggy from shrinking(eeeek)

Second question.. I know that most women are not exactly the same size in both breasts. And I know that as I gained weight, the size difference became much more noticeable. In fact. I have had D/DD boobs since I turned 16. And as I gained weight through the years, it seems like I have only gained boob weight in ONE FRIGGEN BOOB! Has this happened to anyone else? When you look at them, the difference is ASTRONOMICAL! My mother has said that many women are uneven but bigger boobs it is more noticeable.

Ok, maybe a lot of questions in there. If you are of the bigger boobed persuasion and have lost weight, do they lose evenly? If you are a "loppy" like me, will the bigger boob lose more then the "smaller" one? IF you think you only gained weight in one boob, does that mean only that boob will lose the weight?

And one last question.. why the heck am I willing to embarrass myself by asking these questions? But I REALLY want to know. I'm a little frightened on what will happen in the boob department when I lose the weight. Will I still have very uneven boobs? Will they just end up being saggy deflated things that droop to my knees, one drooping more than the other. or will losing the wight even them out to a much less noticeable degree like they were BEFORE I gained so much weight?

Thanks to anyone brave enough to answer.. and it's ok to laugh.. the whole thing is absurd!


edit: maybe I will post this in the women's issues forum as well. I think we have one of those.

I have lopsided ones too - it became really apparent while I was pregnant. My right spilled out of my DDD, my left needed a little bit of help filling it up. Now I've gone down two band sizes and two cup sizes (to a D). Honestly, I have to roll my envelopes up to make them look right in my bra (roll under and push up, ftr). When I'm done with this, I am going to have perfectly even boobs that fill up nicely - if you know what I mean... I'm also going to have a smooth, tight, flat stomach. Even if it means I drive a 20 year old car to pay for all of it.

*hugs*
Steph

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by Doodle_in_MA

OH. MY. GAWD.
This is posted at KK in response to Christin's blog video:

"Self serving crap.

I find it ironic that a woman who publicly proclaimed that this WOE is what worked for her is now leading a crusade against it. She did lose weight on this WOE and is still alive & apparently healthy but now feels the need to protest and proclaim the dangers of the very WOE that she PUBLICLY PROCLAIMED as what worked for her.

I am a "big" girl (but not for long!) and I can take it."

Sounds like Melt being Melt...I differ with others on who or what she is but it sounds like her........ Oh the nerve. Someone throw some holy water on her!
Commenting on the Underlined in the quote above-
I don't think it is ironic, because we all make mistakes even when trying to do the right thing. It is learning from our mistakes that make the impact!
The word healthy is not what I would use to describe having a sonogram of the heart being performed to check for valve damage. I would say that "healthy" is undetermined at this point!

[bizzymom]

Originally Posted by little_miss

My heart goes out to Christin and anyone else who suffered major complications from kimkins, but my question is when does it become OK to look at a diet on the internet or in a magazine (knowing every diet is NOT for every person) and read "wow, I may only be consuming 300 calories a day, let me do this diet..." and then losing the weight and complaining "wow..I only ate 300 calories a day..why did I do this.." There are many diets on the market, diet pills ect. Some including drugs that are now banned but people CHOSE to take them anyway knowing they might suffer problems down the road. I mean what did you expect eating only 300 calories a day? Im just asking where does personal responsibility come in here?

You are right, hence the embarrassment (mine) at paying good money to a con woman who never even followed her own diet. But some people did follow it and paid the consequences. The initial "diet" was never as extreme as 300 cals, that was just the advice given when your body started to shut down from starvation (known as a "stall" at KK) and the only way to keep losing was less and less food, no fat.

[LC2003]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

-Her story was that she lost the weight during 2001 while here at LCF-
Her weight according to her fit day was really telling that she was trying to set up a situation to where it appeared she lost a lot of weight fast
Dec 00 and Jan 01- She has fitday showing highest wt. of 290 lbs in Dec 2000BUT then it shows 160 lbs in 1-01 which would be impossible

I believe she lost some weight because of Gastric Bypass Surgery not because of low carb dieting. She is a big liar!

[Doodle_in_MA]

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Sounds like Melt being Melt...I differ with others on who or what she is but it sounds like her........ Oh the nerve. Someone throw some holy water on her!
Commenting on the Underlined in the quote above-
I don't think it is ironic, because we all make mistakes even when trying to do the right thing. It is learning from our mistakes that make the impact!
The word healthy is not what I would use to describe having a sonogram of the heart being performed to check for valve damage. I would say that "healthy" is undetermined at this point!

It wasn't Melt - unless Melt is Heidi and this is Heidi too

It was hasc01 (Sharla).

[bizzymom]

Melt is Heidi, she can try to disguise her style, but she can't. Melt is like the alter ego that can go on the attack.

[marnaewilson]

Besides, Little Miss, the plan as written and advertized is not the plan that was actually pushed on the forums. There is a mind thing and general attitude there that sent people lower and lower in calories, trying to break stalls and 'be tough enough.' It was a dangerous and subtle bait and switch.

[bizzymom]

Originally Posted by marnaewilson

Besides, Little Miss, the plan as written and advertized is not the plan that was actually pushed on the forums. There is a mind thing and general attitude there that sent people lower and lower in calories, trying to break stalls and 'be tough enough.' It was a dangerous and subtle bait and switch.

Exactly. Plus the super-supportive "us against the world" attitude. It became a pro-ana site, plain and simple.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by JustKim

You know I was just thinking...as much as I did not want my name associated with her latest newsletter, considering she printed an article I wrote, yet did NOT cite me as the author, isn't that just plain and simple plagiarism?

I think it all depends on what you signed with her.

For example, I have performed in 3 teaching DVDs. It's my words, my ideas, my techniques and my artistry. However, I signed off all rights to those things insofar as they applied to the DVDs so that the company who was producing the DVD and was intending to mass produce and then sell them could do pretty much whatever he wanted to do.

In fact he's gone so far as to parrot one of my DVDs to make a similar one only with HIS face in it, and sell it as a Teaching DVD. Ticked me off but I re-read my papers, and sure enough, he got me.

When you're dealing with someone who has a future intention or agenda, it's best to know your legal standing, I have learned the hard way

Still, your situation may be different. Do you have copies of contracts or anything like that you signed with Heidi?

[missis36]

Thanks for the info Doodle. Sheesh, that's just an ugly place to be right now. Now at least all of the god fearing women on that site will be offended by that, keep posting the ugly stuff over there and see how many more they lose. Look how many they lost the other night because of heidi's drunken tirade. Yikes.

About sticking up for something and later denouncing it. Um how many can join me on the Phen Phen train. I was on it, lost weight, told everyone, said woo hoo, and then the studies came out and we all stopped taking it. Duh!

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by LC2003

I believe she lost some weight because of Gastric Bypass Surgery not because of low carb dieting. She is a big liar!

I don't even believe it was gastric bypass but rumors have been of stomach stapling.

[jayed]

Originally Posted by Doodle_in_MA

It wasn't Melt - unless Melt is Heidi and this is Heidi too

It was hasc01 (Sharla).