Why the fascination with Kimmer? #4 - Page 22

sallyT · 09-28-2007, 10:38 AM

wahhh I can't catch up I read page 1 and 2 and this morning were up to 21, I better get reading...

CarolynF · 09-28-2007, 10:40 AM

FaithM. · 09-28-2007, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dottie

We never have figured that out. A couple of people had several of their posts that no longer show their IDs *shrug*

Seems I remember her posting it was because she was an unregistered member at the time. Don't hold me to that though but she did have some sort of explanation for it.

Dottie · 09-28-2007, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaithM.

Seems I remember her posting it was because she was an unregistered member at the time. Don't hold me to that though but she did have some sort of explanation for it.

I don't know, but I don't think people can post if they're unregistered. I was thinking it might have happened as a glitch during a software upgrade but it was so long ago I just don't recall the details.

FaithM. · 09-28-2007, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dottie

I don't know, but I don't think people can post if they're unregistered. I was thinking it might have happened as a glitch during a software upgrade but it was so long ago I just don't recall the details.

Yeah, it somehow didn't sound right to me either especially for the fact that anytime we update our signatures/avatars pics, etc. then even all our past posts will show them.

Carolina Rose · 09-28-2007, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dottie

Comment: Winslow was a member on escribe and here back at the start of this site

I was a member here back then (different, long-lost user name though) and I remember Winslow and her tuna!

She was one of my "heroes" ... she and Bon Bon. I've often wondered where they went. I'd love to hear how they're doing. Oh, and Happy Me also, from the Century Club. So many people back then that I miss .... Lo, Mangum, BobnAtlanta, the "original" Tooter (no offense to the "current" Tooter!

) ... gosh, it's sad thinking of all those who have left over the years.

I mainly hung around in the Century Club back then and don't remember exactly when Kimmer appeared on the scene. But once she "settled in", it was hard to ignore her!

ETA: Yep, I was wrong about another Tooter. I was thinking of TOOTIE in the Century Club. Silly me.

centralpa · 09-28-2007, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorganMacLeoid

(May seem OT right now.. but.. it will make sense soon)

hmmm ... ominous ... I feel like I did right before the last episode of the Sopranos ... "something bad is gonna happen ... !!!"

cheers,
Wendy

HoneyBee2 · 09-28-2007, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KissysMom

IF my memory serves me correctly (big IF there..lol)
Kimmer was here before the board reformat in '02. A lot of our accounts were completely lost then, and we had to re-register. All of my posts from before June of '02 were lost (I registered in 1999) nevah to be seen again. Trying to find Kimmers original posts from this site is probably a dead end.

-Kimmer came to LCF in Nov. 2000 : according to her date under her avatar
"Join date" Ask Kimmer!

-She started her Fitday in Dec 05 2000- That is her earliest entry in fitday and fitday didn't come out until nov 2000 so that sounds correct
FitDay.com - Diet and Fitness journal for Kimmer

-Her story was that she lost the weight during 2001 while here at LCF-
Her weight according to her fit day was really telling that she was trying to set up a situation to where it appeared she lost a lot of weight fast
Dec 00 and Jan 01- She has fitday showing highest wt. of 290 lbs in Dec 2000 BUT then it shows 160 lbs in 1-01 which would be impossible
FitDay.com - Diet and Fitness journal for Kimmer

8-07-2001 -Then fitday where she tried to set-up her weight loss on fitday it shows her going from around 150 pounds on 8-7-01 to 240lbs on 8-8-01 then 138 lbs by the end of the year 12-01
FitDay.com - Diet and Fitness journal for Kimmer

Nady · 09-28-2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaithM.

I remember reading through this long ago. I find it odd that she would jump into a month-long water fast being as she couldn't stand to drink water. We can guess what she was probably really doing when she was refilling her glass.

Hard to say~ I know vodka looks like water

~ I was rereading my posts in that thread~ one was the fact that no fasting 'expert' (doctor or otherwise) recommends marathon fasting~ so her current opinion that 'fasting the weight off' or that you don't need to eat as long as there is still excess fat is really 180° from what we were discussing.

Also, I quoted an excerpt from Dr. Joel Fuhrman's book that clearly states

Quote:

(bolding mine)
Thus, the human organism responds to the fasting state by attempting to maximally conserve it's muscle and lean body tissue. With severely restrictive diets, like juice fasts, the body does lose weight, but the brain and other organs do not subsist mainly on ketones. Therefore, proportionally to weight loss, juice fasts and severely restrictive diets cause us to lose more lean body tissue and less fatty tissue than do total fasts.

So she should have known that her VLCD was/is dangerous.
~~~N

HoneyBee2 · 09-28-2007, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckFeathers

There are at least 2 diehard personal journals over there...
teacherchallenge and jesus one.
Lovely people but just determined to stay "positive" over this.

I'm going out of town and need to get back to badly neglected duties myself but whoever can try get word out.

DuckF- I hope the remaining Kimkins members decide to leave soon. I can't get into the site any longer. But have a safe trip and don't come back a raven!

centralpa · 09-28-2007, 10:52 AM

[quote=Carolina Rose;9274354] the "original" Tooter (no offense to the "current" Tooter!

)

Huh? "Original" Tooter = "current" Tooter

Dottie · 09-28-2007, 10:53 AM

I think there's only 1 Tooter.. scud missle fame (she can post that for those who don't know the story, but it's all over the internet and came from "our" Tooter lol)

marnaewilson · 09-28-2007, 10:55 AM

JustKim, I doubt she will ever use the article you posted here. It specifically tells why your qualifications are valid and how to avoid using bad personal trainers. She is planning to hire someone and doesn't want people to question their qualifications. So don't expect to see your article published in her newsletters.

Nady · 09-28-2007, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dottie

I think there's only 1 Tooter.. scud missle fame (she can post that for those who don't know the story, but it's all over the internet and came from "our" Tooter lol)

I think the confusion is because her post count somehow reverted to zero~
~~~N

Carolina Rose · 09-28-2007, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dottie

I think there's only 1 Tooter.. scud missle fame (she can post that for those who don't know the story, but it's all over the internet and came from "our" Tooter lol)

Maybe it's just my 46 year old brain, but I distinctly remember a Tooter in the Century Club back in 1999-2001, somewhere in there. She lived in Pennsylvania, had some grown sons, loved lobster slathered in butter.

Ahhh ..... it is my brain. She was TOOTIE.

Okay, so the mind's goin', what can I say?

heh heh heh

little_miss · 09-28-2007, 10:59 AM

In response to the post above me saying vlcd's eat muscle and brain tissue and what not I belive kimmer said that the process only happens in the first week or two then it just eats fats, I mean normally I would take every word that kimmer sais with a grain of salt but for a morbidly obese woman to be giving some sort of successful diet advice when she herself doesn't follow it or know what works thru trial and error she must be getting her facts from some reputable source. Not only that but it has been said many a time that very obese patients are put on vlcd's to take weight off quickly because a few side effects are more healthy than what they are dealing with currently (being so obese) so in that case I am for vlcd's if you really need them.

HoneyBee2 · 09-28-2007, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MorganMacLeoid

Crystal water turns to dark
Where ere it's presence leaves it's mark
And boiling currents pound like drums
When something wicked this way comes...

A presence dark invades the fair
And gives the horses ample scare
Chaos rains and panic fills the air
When something wicked this way comes...

Ill winds mark it's fearsome flight,
And autumn branches creak with fright.
The landscape turns to ashen crumbs,
When something wicked this way comes...

(May seem OT right now.. but.. it will make sense soon)

Morgan you are making me scared....

It will not be another WonderWoman appearance will it?

Doodle_in_MA · 09-28-2007, 11:00 AM

Over at KK:

Someone posted Christin's journal link:

18 Minutes ago

"http://the-journey-on.blogspot.com/

Please watch "

And got this response:

"What part of 'Don't tell me what to watch or read' did you NOT understand?

If I can get this fat off of my ass, I am perfectly happy!"

MorganMacLeoid · 09-28-2007, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by little_miss

In response to the post above me saying vlcd's eat muscle and brain tissue and what not I belive kimmer said that the process only happens in the first week or two then it just eats fats, I mean normally I would take every word that kimmer sais with a grain of salt but for a morbidly obese woman to be giving some sort of successful diet advice when she herself doesn't follow it or know what works thru trial and error she must be getting her facts from some reputable source. Not only that but it has been said many a time that very obese patients are put on vlcd's to take weight off quickly because a few side effects are more healthy than what they are dealing with currently (being so obese) so in that case I am for vlcd's if you really need them.

Patients (keyword) that are put on vLDCs are done so when life-threatening complications are present. These diets CAN be used successfully when done under the careful, constant supervision of doctors, and many times done under INPATIENT care as well, NOT by some random obese woman on the internet who has not lost any weight.

They are too dangerous to play around with.

Go to The Journey and watch Christin's video.

Doodle_in_MA · 09-28-2007, 11:01 AM

Another new post at KK:

How's Tippy going to answer this one??

"I'm confused.... 4 Minutes ago
I guess I am confused...when I first joined Kimkins, I kept hearing that a maintenance plan was coming out soon. Now the only maintenance plan I see is to use some other plan (South Beach, Atkins, etc) when you get to goal? Is there no Kimkins Maintenance plan coming out ever? I had never heard that Kimkins was only for short tem use until recently, so I assumed by the time I got to Maintenance there would be a Kimkins plan for that. I'm also confused about all the 'cycling talk' I'm reading on forum after forum and even as advice from Admins. Again- when I first joined, I read over and over "if you tweak it even a little, it isn't Kimkins". So now I am confused- what has changed in both of these issues (Maintenance and cycling/tweaking). I would greatly appreciate some clarification so I can continue to do this WOE correctly."

Khewes · 09-28-2007, 11:02 AM

The Journey

Please watch

Someone over "there" has been frantically posting this in every thread they can find.

Others are bickering, and this response, just pretty much sums it all up.

"What part of 'Don't tell me what to watch or read' did you NOT understand?

If I can get this fat off of my ass, I am perfectly happy!"

Ah, heart valves, schmart valves, who gives a crap. As long as my jeans fit.

Khewes · 09-28-2007, 11:04 AM

I guess I am confused...when I first joined Kimkins, I kept hearing that a maintenance plan was coming out soon. Now the only maintenance plan I see is to use some other plan (South Beach, Atkins, etc) when you get to goal? Is there no Kimkins Maintenance plan coming out ever? I had never heard that Kimkins was only for short tem use until recently, so I assumed by the time I got to Maintenance there would be a Kimkins plan for that. I'm also confused about all the 'cycling talk' I'm reading on forum after forum and even as advice from Admins. Again- when I first joined, I read over and over "if you tweak it even a little, it isn't Kimkins". So now I am confused- what has changed in both of these issues (Maintenance and cycling/tweaking). I would greatly appreciate some clarification so I can continue to do this WOE correctly.

Thank you!!

And peeps are confuzzled.

This would almost be fun to watch if there weren't real lives at stake.

controlledcarb · 09-28-2007, 11:05 AM

Wishing all here are fantastic day!

Doodle_in_MA · 09-28-2007, 11:05 AM

Over at KK:

There's a thread with posters complianing that the OM system is still down and they want to know when it will come back up. Tippy and SL gave their standard "they are working on it" answer. Then someone posted this!

"There will be no more PM's

The Journey

Please watch this"

People are getting MAD over there

Doodle_in_MA · 09-28-2007, 11:07 AM

Another goodbye!

Put a fork in me....I'm done! 0 Minutes ago

"Hi Kimkins Community

I've really thought long and hard about this. I feel that I've made every attempt to "get over" all this drama and move forward.

First, I want to thank you all the lovely wonderful folks who have given me support on this journey. I've learned so much this summer and I've grown and healed. I did the work with the loving, kind support of many of you.
I'm sad to leave, but I can not be apart of something that is, in my opinion, becoming manipulative and negative. (the deleting of journals and posts and now PMs, is wrong in my mind. The PUBLIC banning of people is embarrassing to me)

I started the Laugh Away the Pounds Challenge as a way to fip the switch in my mind and focus on the positive. I hope it will continue on this site for those who are chosing to stay. Out of respect to my fellow comdieans in that challenge, I didn't want to post my goodbye there. I hope you will all see this and know that I love you.

I will be around the net...please look for me, say "hi" and I'll have a hug for you!

I wish you all well with your journey. Thank you again for being apart of my journey."

09-28-2007, 10:59 AM	#646
little_miss Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Washington Posts: 175 Gallery: little_miss WOE: VLC	In response to the post above me saying vlcd's eat muscle and brain tissue and what not I belive kimmer said that the process only happens in the first week or two then it just eats fats, I mean normally I would take every word that kimmer sais with a grain of salt but for a morbidly obese woman to be giving some sort of successful diet advice when she herself doesn't follow it or know what works thru trial and error she must be getting her facts from some reputable source. Not only that but it has been said many a time that very obese patients are put on vlcd's to take weight off quickly because a few side effects are more healthy than what they are dealing with currently (being so obese) so in that case I am for vlcd's if you really need them. __________________ "If men would consider not so much wherein they differ, as wherein they agree, there would be far less of uncharitableness and angry feeling." -Joseph Addison

09-28-2007, 11:01 AM	#650
Doodle_in_MA MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2003 Location: North Shore MA Posts: 2,680 Gallery: Doodle_in_MA Stats: 146/138.4/130	Another new post at KK: How's Tippy going to answer this one?? "I'm confused.... 4 Minutes ago I guess I am confused...when I first joined Kimkins, I kept hearing that a maintenance plan was coming out soon. Now the only maintenance plan I see is to use some other plan (South Beach, Atkins, etc) when you get to goal? Is there no Kimkins Maintenance plan coming out ever? I had never heard that Kimkins was only for short tem use until recently, so I assumed by the time I got to Maintenance there would be a Kimkins plan for that. I'm also confused about all the 'cycling talk' I'm reading on forum after forum and even as advice from Admins. Again- when I first joined, I read over and over "if you tweak it even a little, it isn't Kimkins". So now I am confused- what has changed in both of these issues (Maintenance and cycling/tweaking). I would greatly appreciate some clarification so I can continue to do this WOE correctly." __________________ _____________________________ Carrie The difference between try and triumph is just a little umph! The road to success is dotted with many tempting parking places.

09-28-2007, 10:38 AM	#631
sallyT Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Anaheim, Ca Posts: 5,650 Gallery: sallyT Stats: 167/142/117 WOE: 50%Atkins/50%SEE FOOD DIET ; ) Start Date: January 2006	wahhh I can't catch up I read page 1 and 2 and this morning were up to 21, I better get reading...

09-28-2007, 10:40 AM	#632
CarolynF Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 19,314 Gallery: CarolynF Stats: 195/144/139 WOE: Eat Fat, Get Thin/I Can Make You Thin Start Date: January 2001

09-28-2007, 10:52 AM	#641
centralpa Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: upstate NY Posts: 3,151 Gallery: centralpa	[quote=Carolina Rose;9274354] the "original" Tooter (no offense to the "current" Tooter! ) Huh? "Original" Tooter = "current" Tooter

09-28-2007, 10:53 AM	#642
Dottie Administrator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: S.E. Texas Gulf Coast Posts: 58,262 Gallery: Dottie	I think there's only 1 Tooter.. scud missle fame (she can post that for those who don't know the story, but it's all over the internet and came from "our" Tooter lol)

09-28-2007, 10:55 AM	#643
marnaewilson Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 109 Gallery: marnaewilson Stats: 163/133/123 WOE: Modified Atkins Start Date: Jan. 2000	JustKim, I doubt she will ever use the article you posted here. It specifically tells why your qualifications are valid and how to avoid using bad personal trainers. She is planning to hire someone and doesn't want people to question their qualifications. So don't expect to see your article published in her newsletters.

09-28-2007, 11:00 AM	#648
Doodle_in_MA MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2003 Location: North Shore MA Posts: 2,680 Gallery: Doodle_in_MA Stats: 146/138.4/130	Over at KK: Someone posted Christin's journal link: 18 Minutes ago "http://the-journey-on.blogspot.com/ Please watch " And got this response: "What part of 'Don't tell me what to watch or read' did you NOT understand? If I can get this fat off of my ass, I am perfectly happy!"

09-28-2007, 11:02 AM	#651
Khewes MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philly 'burbs Posts: 1,038 Gallery: Khewes	The Journey Please watch Someone over "there" has been frantically posting this in every thread they can find. Others are bickering, and this response, just pretty much sums it all up. "What part of 'Don't tell me what to watch or read' did you NOT understand? If I can get this fat off of my ass, I am perfectly happy!" Ah, heart valves, schmart valves, who gives a crap. As long as my jeans fit.

09-28-2007, 11:04 AM	#652
Khewes MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philly 'burbs Posts: 1,038 Gallery: Khewes	I guess I am confused...when I first joined Kimkins, I kept hearing that a maintenance plan was coming out soon. Now the only maintenance plan I see is to use some other plan (South Beach, Atkins, etc) when you get to goal? Is there no Kimkins Maintenance plan coming out ever? I had never heard that Kimkins was only for short tem use until recently, so I assumed by the time I got to Maintenance there would be a Kimkins plan for that. I'm also confused about all the 'cycling talk' I'm reading on forum after forum and even as advice from Admins. Again- when I first joined, I read over and over "if you tweak it even a little, it isn't Kimkins". So now I am confused- what has changed in both of these issues (Maintenance and cycling/tweaking). I would greatly appreciate some clarification so I can continue to do this WOE correctly. Thank you!! And peeps are confuzzled. This would almost be fun to watch if there weren't real lives at stake.

09-28-2007, 11:05 AM	#653
controlledcarb Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: MIssouri, USA Posts: 569 Gallery: controlledcarb Stats: 275/185/185 WOE: Controlled-Carb (lost with Atkins) Start Date: September 2001	Wishing all here are fantastic day!

09-28-2007, 11:05 AM	#654
Doodle_in_MA MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2003 Location: North Shore MA Posts: 2,680 Gallery: Doodle_in_MA Stats: 146/138.4/130	Over at KK: There's a thread with posters complianing that the OM system is still down and they want to know when it will come back up. Tippy and SL gave their standard "they are working on it" answer. Then someone posted this! "There will be no more PM's The Journey Please watch this" People are getting MAD over there

09-28-2007, 11:07 AM	#655
Doodle_in_MA MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: May 2003 Location: North Shore MA Posts: 2,680 Gallery: Doodle_in_MA Stats: 146/138.4/130	Another goodbye! Put a fork in me....I'm done! 0 Minutes ago "Hi Kimkins Community I've really thought long and hard about this. I feel that I've made every attempt to "get over" all this drama and move forward. First, I want to thank you all the lovely wonderful folks who have given me support on this journey. I've learned so much this summer and I've grown and healed. I did the work with the loving, kind support of many of you. I'm sad to leave, but I can not be apart of something that is, in my opinion, becoming manipulative and negative. (the deleting of journals and posts and now PMs, is wrong in my mind. The PUBLIC banning of people is embarrassing to me) I started the Laugh Away the Pounds Challenge as a way to fip the switch in my mind and focus on the positive. I hope it will continue on this site for those who are chosing to stay. Out of respect to my fellow comdieans in that challenge, I didn't want to post my goodbye there. I hope you will all see this and know that I love you. I will be around the net...please look for me, say "hi" and I'll have a hug for you! I wish you all well with your journey. Thank you again for being apart of my journey."