Why the fascination with Kimmer? #4

[Sheridan]

Originally Posted by suzanne13

Here is Kimmer's response to complaints on the BBB website:

"This member purchased and received access to the Kimkins diet website including diet, diet variations, food lists, grocery lists, weight loss resource links, community support forums and certified athletic trainer.
This member is not banned. She joined on XXXX and her last log in was XXXX. She has used her membership for more than XXXX and has received her purchase. Server log screenshots are available.
We anticipate you will receive several complaints from the anti-Kimmer internet group. We regret the inconvenience to BBB."

There are only 2 complaints listed there, and she has not responded to mine as of yet (mine is the unanswered, which I just filed on Wednesday). Her arrogance is really starting to tick me off. I hope this whole thing gets shut down soon - with a glaring Dateline-20/20-American Justice report!!

The entire way she does business certainly suggests she is an experienced scammer/con-man.

[JustKim]

Hey while I am at it (and I have way exceeded my post allotment for the day!)

I'll beat her to the punch - apologize in advance - not my best work!

Thinking of working with a personal trainer? Here are some things to think about.

First of all, I am not a personal trainer, I am a certified ATHLETIC trainer which means I specialize in preventing, recognizing, managing and rehabilitating injuries that result from physical activity. For more information on athletic training, check out the National Athletic Trainer’s Association at The National Athletic Trainers' Association.

Whether you are an exercise newbie just starting out, or a seasoned exercise junkie looking to shake up your routine, sometimes a few sessions with a personal trainer may be of benefit. Like everything else, there are good and bad so here are some things to look for.
1. Education Education Education
• Look for a personal trainer with an education background in areas like exercise physiology, kinesiology, etc. With these fields they should have the academic background to understand how the body works the way it does and how to use exercise to affect change.
2. Certification
• Personal training is not a regulated field. This means that anyone can literally call themselves a personal trainer. Look for individuals that have actually taken courses and are certified to practice as personal trainers. Keep in mind, if you Google “personal trainer certification” you’ll find pages worth of “weekend course” and “$49.99 and you can be a personal trainer” options. Two of the highest regarded certifications are through ACSM (American College of Sports Medicine) and NSCA (National Strength and Conditioning Association) with the CSCS (Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist) from the NSCA as the “Gold” standard.
3. References
• It is not an insult to ask for references! Check with people the personal trainer has worked with and see if they are happy with the results. Was the person easy to work with? Did they provide a challenge?
4. Personal Meeting/Session
• Meet one on one with the prospective personal trainer and ask about his/her background. Ask about training philosophy. Ask about the training routine. You should feel very comfortable with this person. You are trusting this person with your body.

You may not find the perfect personal trainer for you the first time around. Keep “shopping” (you ARE the consumer after all) until you do find one that you click with.

As always, if you have any questions you can always look me up in the Work Out Zone!

[LadyN]

"Re:Question for Tippy 2 Hours, 54 Minutes ago
Well, Netrition does allow it's BB to be used to help destroy our home here. They allow members to speak freely and very unkindly, make fun of and threaten people who follow Kimkins. They even allow this hostility towards their own members who follow Kimkins. They are aware their chat admins are Ducky and The Truth and they are aware of the slander being written and promoted. They have made no efforts to discourage this behavior and in fact appear to be in favor of promoting it. They allow their members to make fun of overweight people yet they call themselves a diet support site. They still keep all Kimkins threads available for use. The "we can do what we want and you better not question it" is unreasonable and unAmerican at best. If you want to do business with this company you certainly may and you have every right to do so. But I want the truth known so others can make their own choices too."

EMphasis added is mine.

Uhhh, Sorry Tippy but you can only call it if something is untrue. I think it has been proven that Kimmer/Heidi/Melt/BRad et.al is a fraud to say the very least. What you have done can be documeted as well so no slander there either. Now if you are mad and don't want to support Netrition fine, but don't say your reason is because of slander or UNAMERICAN behavior!!! How on earth did you come up with un-American? The greatest priveledge we have as Americans is to be a part of "Righting" "Wrongs". Promoting justice is the most American thing one can do!!!

[quote] But I want the truth known so others can make their own choices too.[quote]

IF that is true, and we know it is not, then why are you looking and sounding like the "hear no evil,see no evil, speak no evil" poster gal? I'm sorry, but this board is the reason I am able to stick to plan as well. I have learned so much here that is invaluable.


Oh BTW: I keep tellin you I AM DUCKY!!!!

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by Piekinns

I'm pretty sure heidikin was was at least 100 lbs. overweight when she first joined because I remember some kind of fuss she stirred up back in 2001 in the century club .......she stopped posting over there after that for quite awhile.

Why can't I remember? Help me with my memory !!

ETA yes I was here when we had the old format.

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by Khewes

In reading all the information out about Kimkins program and Heidi Diaz, I can no longer be part of this site. I know this message will be deleted as soon as it is detected, but I hope those of you that are still on Kimkins will do your research and realize that your health is at risk. No amount of weight loss is worth losing your health!

Kimkins administrators - please ban me as I am ashamed to be part of this site any longer.

That is good news but its also sad.

[quiggley]

This is a little OT but I am on Tom Venuto's email list and he has a great article about weight loss and the difference in losing Muscle and Fat with very low calorie diets and Fatter vrs lean dieters.

Burn The Fat Blog: 3500 Calories To Lose A Pound... Is This Formula All Wrong?

[centralpa]

Originally Posted by DuckFeathers

Wendy
Thank you! That's a great email. The only link I'd add is Kimkins Exposed Blog. Let us know if you here back. If not I'll follow up with an email. The more emails they get the better I'd imagine.

Yep, would be way cool to see an expose on MSNBC ... I'll let you know if I hear from Keith!!

cheers,
Wendy

[missis36]

Originally Posted by JustKim

This is very interesting, thanks for all of the input. I haven't talked about it..but will lay it out there I guess. The only thing I was paid for was to moderate the work out zone forum. The newsletters were never really discussed as being part of that, but more as a good way to get information out, bring people to the work out zone etc. Plus I wanted to help. Almost all of the stickies I had posted there I had written a long time ago and had used for years and years with various athletes or rehab patients. Several of the initial newsletter articles (that I was credited with) I had also written awhile ago. Only the last few had I written recently. There is one that I have written that she has not published yet (it sucks anyways - not my best work LOL)

The cease and desist letter right now includes everything I have written, posted, etc on her website, or in any other form of media or communication, and states that it all must be deleted and there shall be no future reference to KimATC, certified athletic trainer, nor to my real name by her, the website, or anyone affiliated with the website.

Hey Have I told you lately that I love you Awesome!!! Did you see my edit on the last page btw? I'm serious, might be a good idea to contact Regandy and have her dole out that 500 bucks she still owes heidi to help fight the cause. Again that would be poetic justice.

OT: My boss is now doing this diet (Atkins 72) and WILL NOT leave me alone so I can't keep up on the posts. Man I'm done telling people what type of diet I do until this is over. I just don't have the time hahhaha

[KissysMom]

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

Why can't I remember? Help me with my memory !!

ETA yes I was here when we had the old format.

IF my memory serves me correctly (big IF there..lol)

Kimmer was here before the board reformat in '02. A lot of our accounts were completely lost then, and we had to re-register. All of my posts from before June of '02 were lost (I registered in 1999) nevah to be seen again. Trying to find Kimmers original posts from this site is probably a dead end.

[sammymomma]

Originally Posted by missis36

Dottie, I have a quick question that I think many of us have wondered about. Do you happen to have access to Kimmers first ever post here? Many people have questioned if her plan was in motion back then and I can't remember ever seeing anyting about it, but did she start off here as a heavy person wanting to lose or did she just come in one day saying "Hey ya'll look at me?" Do you have access to anything like that? Thank you

Actually I was thinking this same thing!!!

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by quiggley

This is a little OT but I am on Tom Venuto's email list and he has a great article about weight loss and the difference in losing Muscle and Fat with very low calorie diets and Fatter vrs lean dieters.

Burn The Fat Blog: 3500 Calories To Lose A Pound... Is This Formula All Wrong?

Thank you for the link. I am going to bookmark it for reading.

[missis36]

Originally Posted by KayeJH

This is a silly question - not related to eating. I'm a relative newbie, so am catching up on a lot of the nuances of these discussion boards.

Why do so many people use ducks of all kinds as their avatar? Is there a secret society I don't know about?

I have to admit I had no idea there were so many variations of the rubber duck!!

Just wondering

Kaye

SOrry if someone already answered, first of all welcome to the site Second, Heidi/Kimmer said she was suspect of anyone with a duck avi. So we all have duck avi's to um, well, cause her some stress.

Please feel free to find one and join in. We even roped Dottie into it

ETA: HI SAMMY!!!!! I know you were, that's why I asked because you have asked me that a few times now See I'm still trying to get you some more info BTW. Missed you yesterday

[DuckFeathers]

Originally Posted by juniper01

Many wonder what SNATT is caused by. I found the answer when reading an article from Barry Groves. I am not touting his diet, I feel we all have a decision to make for ourselves when it comes to deciding what path to go down.....Atkins, South Beach, LFL, etc, but this made so much sense to me, I will post this and hope that it helps someone that is struggling like I did. It helped me get over the fear of fat and realize that I needed to eat only the protein allotment my body needs.

This is from an article from Barry Groves:

"Excess intake of nitrogen leads in a short space of time to hyperammonaemia, which is a build up of ammonia in the bloodstream. This is toxic to the brain. Many human cultures survive on a purely animal product diet, but only if it is high in fat.[xii] [xiii] A lean meat diet, on the other hand cannot be tolerated; it leads to nausea in as little as three days, symptoms of starvation and ketosis in a week to ten days, severe debilitation in twelve days and possibly death in just a few weeks. A high-fat diet, however, is completely healthy for a lifetime."


So my friends, I finally have my answer as to why low fat, lean protein does not work for the human body. Read up on hyperammonaemia and you will run, not walk back to higher fat and the right amount of protein. By the way, this has also answered the question to my problem of getting up three times a night to go to the bathroom.....too much lean protein was causing me problems. Since lowering my protein down to 75 grams a day and adding back EFA's and coconut oil, I have one trip to the bathroom at night.......a great improvement over the three trips I was making.

Have I helped anyone.... I will not probably know, but after following this thread for two months, I had to get some things off my chest.

Juniper

The few remaining KK's need to hear this. This vital info.

There are at least 2 diehard personal journals over there...
teacherchallenge and jesus one.
Lovely people but just determined to stay "positive" over this.

I'm going out of town and need to get back to badly neglected duties myself but whoever can try get word out.

Thank you for this info, again!!

[Piekinns]

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

Why can't I remember? Help me with my memory !!

It was sooooo long ago, but I remember heidikin was insensitive to some issues that very overweight people face on a daily basis.....feeling were hurt and it got a bit heated....... then poof.

Right after that I joined the escribe forum and mostly just lurked on this site. I had a couple of run ins with her myself, heidikin is the main reason I decided to join another forum.

[LosingToLive]

I think I will sue her if she causes me to sit here and my hips get larger. Hmmm I can see the headlines now


"Kimkins Diet causes Weight Gain And/ Or Increase in Inches"

Ok, you guys have fun, I need to leave now. Play nice and Copy and Paste any good stuff for me OK?

[jayed]

Originally Posted by missis36

Hey Have I told you lately that I love you Awesome!!! Did you see my edit on the last page btw? I'm serious, might be a good idea to contact Regandy and have her dole out that 500 bucks she still owes heidi to help fight the cause. Again that would be poetic justice.

Missi,

You know I love ya, girl, right? However, it is nota good idea for Regandy to do anything with that money other than pay it back or put it in escrow. Giving it to Kim or using it to help fight the cause will cause trouble than it's worth.

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by Piekinns

It was sooooo long ago, but I remember heidikin was insensitive to some issues that very overweight people face on a daily basis.....feeling were hurt and it got a bit heated....... then poof.

Right after that I joined the escribe forum and mostly just lurked on this site. I had a couple of run ins with her myself, heidikin is the main reason I decided to join another forum.

She was real good at chasing people away wasn't she? I still don't remember and now I need to think real hard.

[missis36]

Originally Posted by jayed

Missi,

You know I love ya, girl, right? However, it is nota good idea for Regandy to do anything with that money other than pay it back or put it in escrow. Giving it to Kim or using it to help fight the cause will cause trouble than it's worth.

Yes Jayed, that's the LOGICAL approach, however the funny, in fact so funny it might cause me to need depends approach would be to use her own money to fight her. But I digress you are right. Ya big party pooper haha

[jayed]

Originally Posted by missis36

Yes Jayed, that's the LOGICAL approach, however the funny, in fact so funny it might cause me to need depends approach would be to use her own money to fight her. But I digress you are right. Ya big party pooper haha

I know sorry. I hate to rain on your parade.

[teri f]

Originally Posted by Lori42

I'm not caught up yet but I have to ask....Dana is that you? Long lost Dana that used to get into it with Kimmer all the time (and was a yaya too?)??

If so It's great to see you here again!

Lori

Is it long lost Dana???? I sure hope so!

[Nady]

For anyone interested in finding more LFC 'Heidi-isms' here is a thread that won't appear with a Kimmer search~
30 DAY DETOX CHALLENGE

The challenge was Kimmer's, the first post is hers~ I don't know why her I.D. was removed, but if you read the posts, you'll know it's Kimmer~

ETA~ Wow reading my posts on that thread, Kimmer sure had a lot of questions~ wonder how she got it so muddled up?
~~~N

[dlslds]

Originally Posted by Mariasol

I'm still 10 pages behind, but my boss has overdosed on coffee this morning and keeps running in and out of my room.

I guess Tippy finally found the ban button as my banta friends and I are banned as of last night. None of us have posted on kimkins since forever.

Sol yes she finallly found the ban button!! I am so impressed!!!!! This means she actually CAN learn, so there is hope that she will read and learn and stop giving 'advice' that is detrimental to peoples health.


I am way beind but just wanted to hug my sis in solidarity!

[MorganMacLeoid]

Crystal water turns to dark
Where ere it's presence leaves it's mark
And boiling currents pound like drums
When something wicked this way comes...

A presence dark invades the fair
And gives the horses ample scare
Chaos rains and panic fills the air
When something wicked this way comes...

Ill winds mark it's fearsome flight,
And autumn branches creak with fright.
The landscape turns to ashen crumbs,
When something wicked this way comes...

(May seem OT right now.. but.. it will make sense soon)