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Old 09-27-2007, 11:18 PM   #421
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WOW, they just deleted Newbie Support completely!! Someone having an alcoholic moment?
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:18 PM   #422
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But if you never posted there, what could she ban you for??? That is some bull shizzle if I have ever heard any. I can't wait for this whole saga to be over!
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oh I posted maybe four times over there.........3 when it first started up, saying hi to folks, then about a month ago I did one post saying prayers to someone who had a sick dog.................

that's ok, it was so BORING over there that I hardly ever even went over there, I only went back recently since the fascination thread started.....
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DID any one access kimkins to see the farewell?
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:24 PM   #424
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There goes Kimkins Cafe!! She is on a rampage tonight!! LOL
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Another KK's member GETS it!

The following loooooong post was just put in every forum over at KK's. Whooohhooooooo!

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Kimkins is THE best diet EVER!! 19 Minutes ago Is what I would have said three months ago. You see, about three months ago, I was 42 lbs lighter, only 35 lbs away from my goal weight. I was thrilled to have finally found something that works for me.
Then one day, while at work, I almost passed out. Employees said I looked white as a ghost. I justfied the episode somehow in my mind and moved on.
About a month ago, I noticed small pains in my chest area. Sort of like little “twangs”. I can no longer ignore these pains as they are undoubtably becoming more frequent.
I cannot ignore my body any longer. I cannot ignore that nagging feeling that “something is just not quite right” with Kimmer and the Kimkins diet.
I cannot ignore the overwhelming evidence that Kimmer did not lose the weight she claims she did. I used to say “I don’t care if Kimmer is a robot, this diet works!” I tried to justify the facts. If Kimmer is telling the truth why does she not produce more before and after pics to put an end to this whole thing once and for all? Let’s think about this logically: Look at your own weight loss and what an accomplishment it is. Remember how great it feels? You’ve worked hard to accomplish something and are proud of what you did. You want people to see your before and after pics because you are proud of yourself. Yet Kimmer refuses to provide those pics? The ugly reality is she can’t produce any current pics because she does not have any. Not one.
I cannot ignore the harmful advice that she has given me and countless others to keep calories and fat as low as possible. After all, gastric bypass patients eat as low as 500 cals a day she would say. I now know that they are under strick doctor’s care and, they up their calories to normal ranges within the first 1-2 months. She would also say things such as “there is no such thing as starvation mode”. I wanted to believe it, too. It’s not true.
I cannot ignore the health issues that other people are having on this diet. You could hear Christin (WW cover girl) in her own words here: The Journey. As you listen, truly ask yourself what could possibly be her motivation for saying what she says. Money? She lost money by leaving Kimkins. Fame? She already had it due to her being on the cover of WW. Take a listen and let me know what you think is truly motivating her to say what she is saying.
I cannot ignore the current Kimkins admins and members who praise Kimmer and the diet. It’s sickening. It’s sickening not only because they are deceived but it’s sickening because those same people will most likely be writing something very similar to this once they too realize how deceptive Kimmer is and how dangerous the diet truly is. The very ones who lose the weight quickly will most likely have the same symptoms that are being reported by tons of other people.
I cannot ignore my own emotions and feelings about the entire ordeal. Who would have known, though?? Kimmer gave me something that nobody else had ever given me: HOPE. Hope that I could do lose the weight and keep it off. Kimmer gave me hope that this is a WOE that I could follow the rest of my life. Kimmer gave me hope that I could be thin again. She gave me hope that I could be finally freed of my addiction to eating. But guess what? It was a false hope because she never lost the weight. It was a lie. And now I’m left praying that the symptoms I’m experiencing will go away once I renoursh my body.
My sincere prayer is that what I’ve written will reach at least one person. I beg you now: If you too have been having that “gut” feeling, you know which one I’m talking about, please do your research. www.kimkinsexposed.com. Do not be afraid to get off of the plan is a wonderful tool. Pray for wisdom. HE will provide it to those who ask. Let my last words on this forum ring in your ears:
This is a DANGEROUS diet and Kimmer is lying to you.
We are making a difference! You ladies are awesome! Keep it up!
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My response (after several other more reasonable approaches_ )



Melt actually told me once in this same thread she thought it would be good if "America as we know it would cease to exist."

I spent 15 years working in the news business, so you'll pardon me if I don't take Melt's biased opinions to heart. I know my stuff, okay? And, lest you think this post is WAY to OT, I have a reporter/anchor friend at the CBS affiliate in L.A. and I'm going to pitch the whole Kimkins scam story to her. I can't guarantee she'll do the story, but I do know how to set it up and get her interested. I'm gonna try!!!
I had just responded to hippiegirl on melt and then read your post! Wow.
I hope your contacts are interested in doing the story. That would be fantastic!
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:25 PM   #428
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WOW, they just deleted Newbie Support completely!! Someone having an alcoholic moment?
??????????

Pm's gone, rant gone

Newbie support?

Well I guess they don't have newbies anymore anyway.

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My last post at Kimkins

I've had it with everything. There's just no more denying it. Here is my last post on Kimkins. Thank you for everyone who has contributed to getting the truth out!

Topic Line: Kimkins is the best diet ever!

Is what I would have said three months ago. You see, about three months ago, I was 42 lbs lighter, only 35 lbs away from my goal weight. I was thrilled to have finally found something that works for me.

Then one day, while at work, I almost passed out. Employees said I looked white as a ghost. I justfied the episode somehow in my mind and moved on.

About a month ago, I noticed small pains in my chest area. Sort of like little “twangs”. I can no longer ignore these pains as they are undoubtably becoming more frequent.

I cannot ignore my body any longer. I cannot ignore that nagging feeling that “something is just not quite right” with Kimmer and the Kimkins diet.

I cannot ignore the overwhelming evidence that Kimmer did not lose the weight she claims she did. I used to say “I don’t care if Kimmer is a robot, this diet works!” I tried to justify the facts. If Kimmer is telling the truth why does she not produce more before and after pics to put an end to this whole thing once and for all? Let’s think about this logically: Look at your own weight loss and what an accomplishment it is. Remember how great it feels? You’ve worked hard to accomplish something and are proud of what you did. You want people to see your before and after pics because you are proud of yourself. Yet Kimmer refuses to provide those pics? The ugly reality is she can’t produce any current pics because she does not have any. Not one.

I cannot ignore the harmful advice that she has given me and countless others to keep calories and fat as low as possible. After all, gastric bypass patients eat as low as 500 cals a day she would say. I now know that they are under strick doctor’s care and, they up their calories to normal ranges within the first 1-2 months. She would also say things such as “there is no such thing as starvation mode”. I wanted to believe it, too. It’s not true.

I cannot ignore the health issues that other people are having on this diet. You could hear Christin (WW cover girl) in her own words here: The Journey. As you listen, truly ask yourself what could possibly be her motivation for saying what she says. Money? She lost money by leaving Kimkins. Fame? She already had it due to her being on the cover of WW. Take a listen and let me know what you think is truly motivating her to say what she is saying.

I cannot ignore the current Kimkins admins and members who praise Kimmer and the diet. It’s sickening. It’s sickening not only because they are deceived but it’s sickening because those same people will most likely be writing something very similar to this once they too realize how deceptive Kimmer is and how dangerous the diet truly is. The very ones who lose the weight quickly will most likely have the same symptoms that are being reported by tons of other people.

I cannot ignore my own emotions and feelings about the entire ordeal. Who would have known, though?? Kimmer gave me something that nobody else had ever given me: HOPE. Hope that I could do lose the weight and keep it off. Kimmer gave me hope that this is a WOE that I could follow the rest of my life. Kimmer gave me hope that I could be thin again. She gave me hope that I could be finally freed of my addiction to eating. But guess what? It was a false hope because she never lost the weight. It was a lie. And now I’m left praying that the symptoms I’m experiencing will go away once I renoursh my body.

My sincere prayer is that what I’ve written will reach at least one person. I beg you now: If you too have been having that “gut” feeling, you know which one I’m talking about, please do your research. www.kimkinsexposed.com. Do not be afraid to get off of the plan is a wonderful tool. Pray for wisdom. HE will provide it to those who ask. Let my last words on this forum ring in your ears:

This is a DANGEROUS diet and Kimmer is lying to you.
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The following loooooong post was just put in every forum over at KK's. Whooohhooooooo!
We are making a difference! You ladies are awesome! Keep it up!
Thanks for posting that Mayberry!!! I know that when I was doing kimkins I only found out about the issues by reading someone's concerns on Kimkins. I didn't surf the net looking for information about the diet I was already doing.
I just wish someone had gotten the news out sooner. At least if I had been there only a few weeks the health damage would be less and I would have been able to get a paypal refund to boot!!!
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Should KK's admins read more?

Geez, I GOTTA get some sleep, but I thought you guys would like to see this! Remember the Tippy post somewhere back saying "we really don't know how Christin lost her weight.." Maybe, Tipsters, as an ADMIN at KK's you could be bothered to check out this thread currently available in the KK's forums:

Christin's FAQ - HOW I DID IT (you can too!) by Christin [Page: 1...51,52,53] 525 38951 2007/09/13 21:22 by backontrack

Tippy ===> Me======>
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Geez, I GOTTA get some sleep, but I thought you guys would like to see this! Remember the Tippy post somewhere back saying "we really don't know how Christin lost her weight.." Maybe, Tipsters, as an ADMIN at KK's you could be bothered to check out this thread currently available in the KK's forums:

Christin's FAQ - HOW I DID IT (you can too!) by Christin [Page: 1...51,52,53] 525 38951 2007/09/13 21:22 by backontrack

Tippy ===> Me======>
Like a MTVer would say "TRUE THAT"

Until it....oopsie goes away?
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From my own experience: I have tried to have a civilized communication and I have tried to address issues in a polite manner, I happen to be polite in real life and it usually doesn't change. I had to bite my tongue more than once after I found out how the system works at KK and that you basically get banned for thinking. I had to bite my tongue even more frequently when I read the advice from hell that Admins were giving when responding to other people's health issues. I work in healthcare and it makes me sick to hear somebody say: "Your hair is falling out, you are doing a good job on KK. It's normal." They are the ones playing with people's lives. I have never attacked anybody, and I said that in one of my last posts. The problem is that every attempt on my side resulted in my posts being deleted. I have tried to address things like anorexia, I was shocked to read that people eat 100 calories a day! I don't want to bother you with all the details, everybody knows the issues anyway.

But: I got really mad today when Melt started beating on a member and I addressed the issue. To my big surprise my first 2 posts got deleted within one and 2 minutes and that's when I got really, really upset.

What I am trying to say is that they don't give anybody a chance to express their opinion, because posts get deleted in a matter of minutes. There are wonderful people on KK. Wonderful people that have been betrayed in many ways. There is no way we can become like "them". I don't play with people's lives. They do.

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Geez, I GOTTA get some sleep, but I thought you guys would like to see this! Remember the Tippy post somewhere back saying "we really don't know how Christin lost her weight.." Maybe, Tipsters, as an ADMIN at KK's you could be bothered to check out this thread currently available in the KK's forums:

Christin's FAQ - HOW I DID IT (you can too!) by Christin [Page: 1...51,52,53] 525 38951 2007/09/13 21:22 by backontrack

Tippy ===> Me======>
Glad you are here!

I was thinking how keith olbermann could have kimmer
as the worst person and one of the weird ones he profiles
also...
Think of the possibilities!
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The following loooooong post was just put in every forum over at KK's. Whooohhooooooo!

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Kimkins is THE best diet EVER!! 19 Minutes ago Is what I would have said three months ago. You see, about three months ago, I was 42 lbs lighter, only 35 lbs away from my goal weight. I was thrilled to have finally found something that works for me.
Then one day, while at work, I almost passed out. Employees said I looked white as a ghost. I justfied the episode somehow in my mind and moved on.
About a month ago, I noticed small pains in my chest area. Sort of like little “twangs”. I can no longer ignore these pains as they are undoubtably becoming more frequent.
I cannot ignore my body any longer. I cannot ignore that nagging feeling that “something is just not quite right” with Kimmer and the Kimkins diet.
I cannot ignore the overwhelming evidence that Kimmer did not lose the weight she claims she did. I used to say “I don’t care if Kimmer is a robot, this diet works!” I tried to justify the facts. If Kimmer is telling the truth why does she not produce more before and after pics to put an end to this whole thing once and for all? Let’s think about this logically: Look at your own weight loss and what an accomplishment it is. Remember how great it feels? You’ve worked hard to accomplish something and are proud of what you did. You want people to see your before and after pics because you are proud of yourself. Yet Kimmer refuses to provide those pics? The ugly reality is she can’t produce any current pics because she does not have any. Not one.
I cannot ignore the harmful advice that she has given me and countless others to keep calories and fat as low as possible. After all, gastric bypass patients eat as low as 500 cals a day she would say. I now know that they are under strick doctor’s care and, they up their calories to normal ranges within the first 1-2 months. She would also say things such as “there is no such thing as starvation mode”. I wanted to believe it, too. It’s not true.
I cannot ignore the health issues that other people are having on this diet. You could hear Christin (WW cover girl) in her own words here: The Journey. As you listen, truly ask yourself what could possibly be her motivation for saying what she says. Money? She lost money by leaving Kimkins. Fame? She already had it due to her being on the cover of WW. Take a listen and let me know what you think is truly motivating her to say what she is saying.
I cannot ignore the current Kimkins admins and members who praise Kimmer and the diet. It’s sickening. It’s sickening not only because they are deceived but it’s sickening because those same people will most likely be writing something very similar to this once they too realize how deceptive Kimmer is and how dangerous the diet truly is. The very ones who lose the weight quickly will most likely have the same symptoms that are being reported by tons of other people.
I cannot ignore my own emotions and feelings about the entire ordeal. Who would have known, though?? Kimmer gave me something that nobody else had ever given me: HOPE. Hope that I could do lose the weight and keep it off. Kimmer gave me hope that this is a WOE that I could follow the rest of my life. Kimmer gave me hope that I could be thin again. She gave me hope that I could be finally freed of my addiction to eating. But guess what? It was a false hope because she never lost the weight. It was a lie. And now I’m left praying that the symptoms I’m experiencing will go away once I renoursh my body.
My sincere prayer is that what I’ve written will reach at least one person. I beg you now: If you too have been having that “gut” feeling, you know which one I’m talking about, please do your research. www.kimkinsexposed.com. Do not be afraid to get off of the plan is a wonderful tool. Pray for wisdom. HE will provide it to those who ask. Let my last words on this forum ring in your ears:
This is a DANGEROUS diet and Kimmer is lying to you.


We are making a difference! You ladies are awesome! Keep it up!
NO!!! Someone should tell her that the link she gave (kimkinsexposed.com) is the porn site! I think she meant Ducky's blog which is: www.kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com/2007

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Old 09-27-2007, 11:47 PM   #436
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I'm so glad you're here! This place and Jimmy's are way better than kk's could ever be...both places allow freedom!!!!!!


You stood up many times and I saw your posts and know others did because it gotten sparser and sparser over there. I think you made an impact by being reasonable in your legitimate protests.
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NO!!! Someone should tell her that the link she gave (kimkinsexposed.com) is the porn site! I think she meant Ducky's blog which is: 2007 « Kimkins Exposed
Oh good catch Lovely! You are right..... Now that is funny and it wasn't even on purpose.
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can someone please go post to the truth https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...77468831833871 the name of that brave poster?

we have a name and time but it needs to be verified. thx


oh not that i am the truth or anything



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Been out pof town today and just spent two hours catching up. Sounds like there is a "melt" down on the other site. Will have to check it out.

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I have the article. It does not say paid advertisement anywhere. Yeln

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I'm just not following anything right now. I eat whatever..I have my Mother dying and I spend most of the day at the rest home and on the way home I grab something and that is it for the day. When things calm down, I will get on Atkins again.

I know I need to eat more and as I have already blown my matabolism on KK, I am not real hungry anyway. I will work on it soon. I still have some (just slight, mind you) problems with eating a lot. Sure wish I had that problem 30 years ago, maybe I wouldn't be overweight, lol.

Right now my therapy is getting that site shut down and maybe saving someone else from going through what I and others have gone through!
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Just checked and the "best diet ever" long post is still up.

ETA: It is up all over the place. Also the newbie support is still there.

Also someone asked if the kimkins plan has changed. Here is the current plan posted on kimkins:

KIMKINS DIET
The original Kimkins Diet

As much lean protein as desired from the Kimkins Food List
0-20 total carbs per day(no fiber or sugar alcohol subtraction)
0-3 cups List 1 veggies per day OR
0-2 cups List 1 veggies + 0-1 cup List 2 veggies per day
Use minimal fat to make your menu work (careful, calories count!)
No alcohol or low carb products (sugar free candy, energy bars, ice cream, frozen meals)
Your appetite will reduce naturally after 3-5 days
Take a complete multivitamin each day plus other desired supplements



KIMMER EXPERIMENT (K/E)
K/E is used to reach ketosis quickly or as a jumpstart for other Kimkins Options

As much lean protein as desired from the Kimkins Food List
Minimal low-carb condiments and spices may be used sparingly
No alcohol, no cheese, no fatty meats, no fats, no veggies
Your appetite will drop naturally after 3-5 days
Take a complete multivitamin each day plus other desired supplements
You may remain on K/E as long as desired



KIMKINS BOOT CAMP

The most popular Kimkins Option!
30 minutes of intense daily exercise required

Breakfast
Up to 2 eggs (cooked without fat)
Up to 1/2 cup List 2 veggies
Up to 2 oz lean ham or other lean protein (raw/cured weight)
Unlimited non-calorie beverage

Lunch
Up to 4 oz lean protein (raw weight)
Up to 2 cups mixed greens + Wishbone Spritzer dressing (or caloric equivalent)
Unlimited non-calorie beverage

Dinner
Up to 4 oz lean protein (raw weight)
Up to 2 cups mixed greens + Wishbone Spritzer dressing (or caloric equivalent)
Unlimited non-calorie beverage

Take a complete multivitamin each day plus other desired supplements



VEGETARIAN OPTION
Vegetarian products have higher carbs so a calorie limit is suggested
Aim for no more than 1000 calories per day

Daily Limits

0-20 total carbs from all sources, no fiber subtraction
0-3 servings of protein substitutes including tofu, eggs, egg substitutes, protein powders
0-2 servings of higher carb choices including tempeh, Gardenburger and Boca products
0-2 servings of dairy choices including yogurt, soft cheese, hard cheese
0-3 cups of List 1 veggies
0-1 cups of List 2 veggies


Use minimal fat for cooking
Unlimited non-calorie beverages
A serving is per the product label
Use low calorie salad dressings and "light" butter substitutes (no trans fats)
Take a complete multivitamin each day plus other desired supplements
Due to higher carbs in vegetarian products, appetite reduction may not occur


MEAL REPLACEMENT SHAKE OPTION
Designed for convenience, automatic portion control and error proof

Up to 800 calories per day
Up to 16 total carbs per day
Up to 80 protein grams per day 0-4 RTD (Ready-to-Drink) meal replacements shakes per day or
0-4 homemade protein shakes per day (15+ grams protein per shake)


RTD shakes should not exceed 200 calories and 4 carbs each
Protein powder should not exceed 200 calories and 4 carbs per serving
Protein powder may be mixed with any very low calorie beverage
Do not use milk for mixing protein powder
You may prefer to have 2 shake meals + 1 Kimkins food meal for variety
Take a complete multivitamin each day plus other desired supplements


Kimkins Cycling Option
Perfect for members who want more variety

Week 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 ...
Choose your favorite Kimkins Diet and be strict!

Week 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 ...
Choose your favorite low calorie or low carb diet and be strict!


Pick your favorite diets and alternate weekly.
You may want to pick a different Kimkins Diet for each "Kimkins" week.
Take a complete multivitamin each day plus other desired supplements.

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Originally Posted by AuntieMame
everyone! I have a couple of questions for the former Kimkins people.
1. How have you transitioned off of the diet?
2. How is your body responding to the transition?
3. Are you able to lose weight? maintain?


1. I transtioned slowly but adding more fat and 100-200 calories a week until I am back to eating around 1200 each day for the last week. That's up from the 500-600 I was eating while doing KK.

2. I put back on about 4 pounds at first, but they have come off and I am now about the same as when I stopped doing strict KK and some days about 1 pound less.

3. Overall for the last month I have been maintaining. Just going up and down the same 2 pounds.

I have not noticed any more hair thinning. Overall, I was not having any serious problems on KK other than leg cramps at first.
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:26 AM   #442
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Also the Affiliate programs on KK's site. There is one that is a "clearing house" of sorts that manages affiliate programs for business', they manage the affiliate program for a certain check printing company that is on the KK affiliate list. If you go to their website and click on affiliate program you can get his contact info.
I sent a little note to virtual model because the way kimmer markets it, it's like one of "her" tools she gives for free and wraps it to look part of the kimkins site. IMO, if I was one of those companies, I don't mind a link etc, but I would prefer it opens into a new window so clearly it's their website, not part of kimkins.

I also note that virtual model didn't appear to be an affiliate... It was still there last time I looked so I guess they didn't have THAT much of an issue with it.
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