Why the fascination with Kimmer? #4

[Queeny]

Well I am "free as a bird" as I am now banned at KK. I never post or copy from over there, my only crime is I am a famous Banta Babe and I post here.

all I can say is WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG TIPPY?


Now I can say what is really on my mind, so look out!

[Katinsac]

thanks, mrs

[Yelnats]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

So Yelnats (Stanley...sorry couldn't resist and I do love that explination of your name..I know, it was something to two sons or something, see...can't even remember your explination, lol) Anyway, back on topic...2 fitdays...were you an Admin over there? If you weren't an "outsider" who were you?...or who were the "outsiders". Thanks

Kat: Yelnats = yelling at sons (it wouldn't all fit if I spelled it out). No, not an admin. My sister and I joined after the WW article. When we first became aware of the controversy, many of our (Kimkins members) posts and fitdays were being taken to other sites and ridiculed and picked apart. So, our group decided to give the "outsiders" (sites outside our private forum) something to talk about. Now I guess I'm "outside" myself. Yeln

[Katinsac]

Originally Posted by Queeny

Well I am "free as a bird" as I am now banned at KK. I never post or copy from over there, my only crime is I am a famous Banta Babe and I post here.

all I can say is WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG TIPPY?


Now I can say what is really on my mind, so look out!

so how did they know it was you?

[Katinsac]

so what are we down to left over there now? about 20 (including Admins?) lol

[stardust1]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

and to those who gave me hugs...thanks!

Kat hugs from me, can't say much, can explain some things later.

Remember the person who posted her message 57 times before getting banned? Imagine 57 people posting hundreds of messages. At the same time.
I have a vision of burning keyboards as busy admins are pressing the delete button.

[dlslds]

Originally Posted by Queeny

Well I am "free as a bird" as I am now banned at KK. I never post or copy from over there, my only crime is I am a famous Banta Babe and I post here.

all I can say is WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG TIPPY?


Now I can say what is really on my mind, so look out!

same here Qbabe, i think the ol yipyip is reeking her revenge!!!!

[Katinsac]

Originally Posted by Yelnats

Kat: Yelnats = yelling at sons (it wouldn't all fit if I spelled it out). No, not an admin. My sister and I joined after the WW article. When we first became aware of the controversy, many of our (Kimkins members) posts and fitdays were being taken to other sites and ridiculed and picked apart. So, our group decided to give the "outsiders" (sites outside our private forum) something to talk about. Now I guess I'm "outside" myself. Yeln

Yeah! That was it, lol. Thanks. Smart move. You sound like people who would have been welcomed in the group I left with!! lol...and yes, guess you is one of us now!!

[Queeny]

Kat I am Queeny always have been, I am Queeny over there too. Tippy was in our Banta Babe group for a short while.......so we have "history."

[AuntieMame]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

[dlslds]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

so how did they know it was you?

she has it out for all of us katinsac.......oooooo i iz shooo skared

[Katinsac]

Originally Posted by stardust1

Kat hugs from me, can't say much, can explain some things later.

Remember the person who posted her message 57 times before getting banned? Imagine 57 people posting hundreds of messages. At the same time.
I have a vision of burning keyboards as busy admins are pressing the delete button.

Oh, that would be soooo cool!! (and thanks for the hugs...I have a clue)

[kakay]

WELL WELL, It did take tippy a while to decide to ban the bantas. OH well no love lost on their part. Just as queeny says she is as free a a BIRD to fly fly free. Wonder who will be next? Tune in to see as I am sure more will follow.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by DuckFeathers

Recent Post:

"Re:Kimkins Cycling Option
Kimmer wrote:
Here it is! Simple as can be:

Kimkins site_ Or click on Kimkins Diet Plans above and see the Cycling Option at the bottom.

Keep your overall goals in mind when choosing a diet program for the non-Kimkins weeks so you don't undo your progress! We will refine the option for optimum results from member feedback.

The key to consistent weight loss is being strict on all weeks!"

Did the diet change? When did this happen? I'm so lost here. HELP!!!!!

I don't understand how they think they're going to pull this off. I mean, anyone who joined when the original plans were there and heard all the if it's not on the list, please don't and if you tweak it, it's not kimkins type of stuff are going to be thinking.. why is it changed? Then you add in all those that watched her say over and over to lower calories and now they sing the tune of higher calories. They have to be thinking there has to be truth to the stuff on the web about the dangers or they wouldn't have changed it. AND it's too late to CTAs because the proof of all the old stuff has been saved. It's so unreal.

[Mommy2Many]

I'm not a doctor.

Scared? No - what point does fear serve?

Informed? Heck yes. Do your research.

Educated? Um... yeah. Definitely.

My advice, and the advice of most of the people who have left the site - especially if you're having good success with this plan - is to print out your fitday (you do have a fitday, right? If not - get one) for a couple of weeks, and bring it to your doctor. Ask for a CMP and a CBC and a thyroid screening, and show him your fitday, as well as any supplements that you've been taking, and ANY side effects you've been having:

Hairloss, Dizziness, Faintness, Nausea, Ammenorhea (loss of period), Dry skin, brittle nails, foggy brain, forgetfulness... Anything that's new.

Ask him if you should be scared, if you should be tweaking, of if you should keep on keeping on.

My public stance - and private too - for record:

I joined in June. I think that most of the advice that was given out on this site between June and the whole Kimmer is a fraud thing is crap. No such thing as starvation? Since when does a layman with no personal or educational foundation have the ability to question umpteen thousands of MEDICAL DOCTORS who have researched obesity, diet, metabolism, etc? The good Dr. Atkins (formerly known on this site as Dr. Fatkins) spent 30 years of his professional life (at least) and several million dollars researching low carb and the most effective ways to LOSE FAT FOR HEART HEALTH. He was, after all, a cardiologist.

That said - The advice given in an attempt to cover the behinds of kimmer and the other admins since then has been pretty good stuff.

So yeah - do your research, but never be scared.

Not that I was active much in either forum, but I'm done biting my tongue there.

BTW, Many = 4 full time, 3 part time. 15, 12, 10, 4, 3, 21 months, 9 months

[jayed]

Originally Posted by Queeny

Well I am "free as a bird" as I am now banned at KK. I never post or copy from over there, my only crime is I am a famous Banta Babe and I post here.

all I can say is WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG TIPPY?


Now I can say what is really on my mind, so look out!

Has this violation made it into the new TOS over there? Thou shalt not post on LCF. And God help you if you're a Banta Babe!

[SMP]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

I'm just not following anything right now. I eat whatever..I have my Mother dying and I spend most of the day at the rest home and on the way home I grab something and that is it for the day. When things calm down, I will get on Atkins again. ...

Kat, it's tough to lose a mother. Mine died last fall after a prolonged stay in a nursing home and it shook me up pretty badly. You have my sympathies. But Sweetie, take care of yourself, or you'll be no good when you need to be strongest. Eat well, eat enough, eat often. Stock up on portables, and keep them handy. This may not be the time to spend thinking about dieting, but for sure it's no time to continue deprivation. All the best to you.

[Queeny]

I think so Julie, thats ok, makes us even more famous

[jayed]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

I don't understand how they think they're going to pull this off. I mean, anyone who joined when the original plans were there and heard all the if it's not on the list, please don't and if you tweak it, it's not kimkins type of stuff are going to be thinking.. why is it changed? Then you add in all those that watched her say over and over to lower calories and now they sing the tune of higher calories. They have to be thinking there has to be truth to the stuff on the web about the dangers or they wouldn't have changed it. AND it's too late to CTAs because the proof of all the old stuff has been saved. It's so unreal.

Not to mention that Heidi posted this last night:

xxxx if you're stalled, I would definitely take a look at current food choices, quantities, how often meat/beef is added. Just a starting point to see what's going on.

But yes, you will alternate 1 week of any Kimkins options with 1 week of any other diet you liked (or have thought about). Back and forth, back and forth.

I will go on record (why do I do this?) as saying I don't think Cycling will produce fast weight loss. I do think cycling is better than quitting if someone is getting bored or yearns for a plan that allows more "stuff".

Just like Boot Camp where I've gotten messages that a member can't do it because they can't exercise. Of course you can do BC! Just skip the exercise. The point of BC is portion control and motivation from quick weight loss. To skip BC and continue on a path where maybe they are getting discouraged makes no sense.

She can't stop herself from undermining this new "defense." She has some pathological need to tell other people to starve themselves.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by AuntieMame

Thank you.
I didn't do Kimkins. I was just curious. well... nosy is a better word.

And, here's the link again ANAD National Association of Anorexia Nervosa and Associated Eating Disorders

Thanks! I'll go check it out.

[dlslds]

Originally Posted by jayed

Has this violation made it into the new TOS over there? Thou shalt not post on LCF. And God help you if you're a Banta Babe!

LOL that is GREAT!!!!!!

[Mommy2Many]

Originally Posted by hippiegirl

Aren't these great? Two of the gals posting in the anti-Melt thread have these posted...

Vanilla Sky's Siggy:

"She had me fooled, too.

But dont be afraid of her or of the truth: do your OWN research and make your OWN decision.

Read THIS.

Then read Beckys Blog.

Read The Truth.

Read about low fat diets.

Heres what I saw when I did:

1. She lies to us AND TO HER ADMINS regularly.

2. She cant produce evidence of her weight loss (the reason we all believed her) or of her claims about Kimkins. Her success NEVER happened.

3. She denies it, but this plan hurts people"

Song bird's Siggy:

"I am not a mean hater. I am a dieter, desperate to lose the weight, same as you. But I learned the hard way that while Kimkins works at first, the consequences of a very low calorie diet are awful. I can't eat without gaining, I've lost tons of hair, and I have heart palpitations. Please, please stop doing this diet."

StephSwalwell stole Vanilla Sky's siggy after she (VS) was banned. How does one know, btw, when it happens - just log in and find out?

[HoneyBee2]

Originally Posted by MidwestMommy

From the Hamptons diet site

The Information below is excerpted from The Hamptons Diet book with permission from the publisher, John Wiley & Sons
Fat Is Not a Bad Word

In 1994, Dr. Pescatore joined the practice of Robert Atkins, the late famous diet doctor. Dr. Atkins touted the message of “Eat all the fat you want. Fat will set you free. Fat doesn’t give you cholesterol, sugar does. Eat fat and get thin”—what a perfect message for an overweight person.

Thanks midwest Mommy for the excerpt......all I saw was

FAT is NOT a Bad WORD ...that doesn't equal FAT IS THE DEVIL which is Kimmer's train of thought.

I am not sure how he approved Kimkins with "only enough fat to make it work" ?!?!?

Thanks Yeln and Midwestmommy....I am going to contact his site for comment either later tonight or in the morning because something doesn't mesh with those two different trains of thought.

[Katinsac]

Originally Posted by SMP

Kat, it's tough to lose a mother. Mine died last fall after a prolonged stay in a nursing home and it shook me up pretty badly. You have my sympathies. But Sweetie, take care of yourself, or you'll be no good when you need to be strongest. Eat well, eat enough, eat often. Stock up on portables, and keep them handy. This may not be the time to spend thinking about dieting, but for sure it's no time to continue deprivation. All the best to you.

Thank you SMP and my condolences.

[stardust1]

Hidey who's the undercover cop? Let's see if you can ban the right person.

[AuntieMame]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

Thanks! I'll go check it out.

You're welcome.