Why the fascination with Kimmer? #3

[missis36]

2big, I don't believe she's anything. She could stand in front of me and tell me she's (insert her weight here) bald, white and anything else that is true and I'd still have a hard time believing it based on the fact that lying comes so easy to her.

[2big4mysize]

I was just wondering cause her thyroid levels and reported values didn't make a lot of sense to me, but I keep seeing folk saying she wrecked her thyroid doing her plan in this topic.

[juniper01]

The only truth that I can state that I know about Heidy is that she is a LOSER, and that is not in reference to her weight.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by missis36

Don't feel bad Skelly, you are in good company, many were scammed, but that's not saying anything about those that were. You are all just very trusting big hearted people. It's a good thing!

Singlehandedly, Heidi/Kimmer the Scammer was responsible for a huge wave of cynicism that swept the globe, according to latest news reports.

[Purple Crayon]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

but I keep seeing folk saying she wrecked her thyroid doing her plan in this topic.

I thought her ex confirmed that she never lost the weight.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by Purple Crayon

I thought her ex confirmed that she never lost the weight.

Apparently her thyroid has been trashed for years, and Kimmer herself confessed to trying every diet plan known to man. She also used diet aids, and WLS with its starting 500 calorie limits. Any of those could have accomplished the trashing. Excessive alcohol drinking hurts the liver, and a hurting liver can nip weight loss in the bud. I really doubt if it benefits the thyroid either.

[JaneyDoe]

Originally Posted by 2big4mysize

I have a question, if she lied about shedding the fat, lied about maintaining, lied about the hair, so why do we still believe she is hypothyroid?

I don't believe a word she says and haven't for years. Did you ever read the garbage she spewed about skincare? She claimed to use 1% Retin A twice a day and used the most harsh apricot scrub on the market to exfoiliate. No way unless her skin was made from concrete! Again, she acted like the absolute authority and had NO clue what she was talking about.

Also I wanted to add that she was always verbally abusive to this one poster in the ML that was an admitted alcoholic/struggling. Very mean and ugly

Booooo Kimmer!

[JadeRosie]

ok so riddle me this.

If Kimmer decided to hide the money and possibly flee, how would she do it? Swiss bank account? Cayman Islands? Doesn't that kind of thing get a lot of notice now in the age of terrorism? How would she do it?

[sallyk]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

Ok so some of them are saying they are losing great on her diet .... well that's great. So then spend your time defending the diet. What I can't understand is that these people aren't going nuts that their fearless leader has lied to them and continues to do so. You can love the diet but defend her as well ..... that's just mind blowing !

I was telling my sister all this, and her comment was, don't you have anything better to do? I told her unfortunately I cannot keep up here, but do like to check in for news daily.

But her comment was, well wouldn't anyone who is following a 500 calorie a day diet lose weight, whether low carb or low fat? She does have a point. I guess the diff is SNATT? or whatever you call it and the diff is one you are probably starving, while the other you are nauseated all the time with no appetite.

[Doodle_in_MA]

Not sure if this has been posted. The Tipster's latest view on things...

"It does feel as if we are under attack and the worst is that it comes from a lot of people who know little about Kimkins except the hear say from others. The pressure on us is tremendous right now but I personally refuse to cave in to the peer pressure. I have never been on the gossip wagons on the net or in real life. I was glad to leave those high school days behind, lol. I know better than the myths. I have searched other Kimmer threads on other boards as well as here and have yet to find a single REAL case of hair falling out in chunks. What I have found is some hair thinning which is quite common for dieters--even those following Atkins. I addressed this with my own Doctor who tells me it is minimal. Now I know if ever a "chunk" of hair was to fall out of my head I would be running to me Doctor as fast as I could and would stop the diet right away. The people who claim such did not seek treatments and claim they stayed on the diet. I would guess "why" is because they are fictional charactors who don't exist.

Further, I am watching for starvation abuse. Here is what I am seeing: Some newbies get into ketosis so deeply and so fast they lack appetite and don't want to eat at all. Then of course they feel sickly. We have been encouraging them to eat something on plan and they report feeling just fine afterwards. Of course there will always be those who take the plans to the extremes and try cutting back farther and farther. This is the worst you can do for Kimkins plans and yourself. It is far better to switch to a new Kimkins plan (you have a lot of choices) or consider cycling. In fact, there is a new cycle challenge starting out monday by Othila. It looks very promising!"

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by SMP

Apparently her thyroid has been trashed for years, and Kimmer herself confessed to trying every diet plan known to man. She also used diet aids, and WLS with its starting 500 calorie limits. Any of those could have accomplished the trashing. Excessive alcohol drinking hurts the liver, and a hurting liver can nip weight loss in the bud. I really doubt if it benefits the thyroid either.

Where in the world is this 500 calorie limit for WLS coming from? I had a RNY gastric bypass in 2000 and we never, never had to count calories. Getting adequate protein is the only thing that was stressed mainly through protein supplementation and high protein dairy products. I really don't think she had WLS-that's total garbage she spews.

[sallyk]

Originally Posted by KimPossible

definition of insanity...with the addition of expecting different results.

Hmmm....never looked at this that way. I just look at it this way. If I keep eating the way I have always eaten, I will always gain weight.

So I don't think of the saying as insanity just the truth.

[sallyk]

Originally Posted by Doodle_in_MA

I just don't get how she could spend the last 6 or so years giving out advice and pretending she follows it. When I'm not doing well with my healthy eating, the last thing I feel like doing is posting in the main lobby giving other people advice. It would make me feel even worse about myself.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!And others don't see the problem with what she has been doing for the last 6-7 years as doing wrong. I don't get it either.

[Bobbin]

Originally Posted by Doodle_in_MA

Not sure if this has been posted. The Tipster's latest view on things...

"It does feel as if we are under attack and the worst is that it comes from a lot of people who know little about Kimkins except the hear say from others. The pressure on us is tremendous right now but I personally refuse to cave in to the peer pressure. I have never been on the gossip wagons on the net or in real life. I was glad to leave those high school days behind, lol. I know better than the myths. I have searched other Kimmer threads on other boards as well as here and have yet to find a single REAL case of hair falling out in chunks. What I have found is some hair thinning which is quite common for dieters--even those following Atkins. I addressed this with my own Doctor who tells me it is minimal. Now I know if ever a "chunk" of hair was to fall out of my head I would be running to me Doctor as fast as I could and would stop the diet right away. The people who claim such did not seek treatments and claim they stayed on the diet. I would guess "why" is because they are fictional charactors who don't exist.

Further, I am watching for starvation abuse. Here is what I am seeing: Some newbies get into ketosis so deeply and so fast they lack appetite and don't want to eat at all. Then of course they feel sickly. We have been encouraging them to eat something on plan and they report feeling just fine afterwards. Of course there will always be those who take the plans to the extremes and try cutting back farther and farther. This is the worst you can do for Kimkins plans and yourself. It is far better to switch to a new Kimkins plan (you have a lot of choices) or consider cycling. In fact, there is a new cycle challenge starting out monday by Othila. It looks very promising!"

Tippy, I don't know where you get off telling the ex-kk'ers here they're liars. That's just not cool. I can't believe you're selling your soul like this, I hope the money is worth it.

[Purple Crayon]

Originally Posted by JadeRosie

ok so riddle me this.

If Kimmer decided to hide the money and possibly flee, how would she do it? Swiss bank account? Cayman Islands? Doesn't that kind of thing get a lot of notice now in the age of terrorism? How would she do it?

Well, if she managed to get the cash out of Paypal and wanted to keep it from Uncle Sam, she could stash cash in safe deposit boxes.

ETA: They like American dollars in Mexico.

[ryudragon]

Originally Posted by JadeRosie

ok so riddle me this.

If Kimmer decided to hide the money and possibly flee, how would she do it? Swiss bank account? Cayman Islands? Doesn't that kind of thing get a lot of notice now in the age of terrorism? How would she do it?

A little "light' reading:

Offshore finance
By Richard W. Rahn
Published February 10, 2004



Grand Cayman -- Some of you reading this maybe thinking, "Ah Cayman, isn't that the place with all the illegal financial activity?"

It is true Cayman is the world's largest offshore financial center, and the world's fifth-biggest financial center, even though it is in the middle of the Caribbean on a small, pleasant island with only 40,000 people.

But contrary to the mythology from movies and novels, Cayman did not become rich by catering to criminals. The truth is just the opposite. Think about it for a moment. If you were looking for a place to put your money, would you choose a bank run by incompetents or criminals in a jurisdiction run by the mob, or would you put your money in a bank run by honest and competent bankers in a country with the rule of law?

The fact is that big offshore financial centers, such as Cayman and Bermuda, and other big financial centers, such as Switzerland, the U.K. and the U.S., are all characterized by having honest courts and competent administrators.

Most of the money in Cayman is institutional rather than individual, and it is more difficult for an individual to open an account in Cayman than in the U.S.

Cayman also has agreements with the Internal Revenue Service and the U.S. Justice Department for exchange of information on suspected criminals, tax evaders and terrorists. If you are a crook, it is not wise to try to open an account in well-run jurisdictions like Cayman and Switzerland, because neither the banks nor the governments will protect you. . ."

If your interested in the whole article, it's at: http://www.caymanfinances.com/attfil...on%20Times.doc

I lived on Grand Cayman for a bit under a year. It IS much harder to open a bank account there (then again, I'm not a millionaire ) and almost impossible to claim residency. It would be an exceptionally difficult place to 'hide' per say, as it is very small and everybody eventually knows everybody and their business.

[sallyk]

Originally Posted by jimzgrl

I am so far behind it is NOT even funny! But I just read this and had to say GOOD FOR YOU MISSI!!

Someday I will catch up with the rest of you!!

Ditto. I never read this one, so I am glad you quoted it. I have read a lot of these threads, but missed a lot too. But I have never seen Missis36 being mean. Truthful, but never mean. You have a lot of support here, don't let the bullies get to you.

Didn't I read somewhere, too, that Missis wouldn't write info she knew, for fear of hurting others???????????? That does not sound like a mean person to me.

[aloise]

Originally Posted by Violet Skye

Actually, I lost 175 pounds at the end of February in the course of an evening and have kept them off. Send $60.00 c/o Vi-kins Skye-kins at Paypal, and you'll receive a pithy paragraph called "Dump That Dude!" And a cheesy MP3 of the song, "Lady In Red". (Illegally downloaded, of course!)

tooo funny!

[SMP]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

Where in the world is this 500 calorie limit for WLS coming from? I had a RNY gastric bypass in 2000 and we never, never had to count calories. Getting adequate protein is the only thing that was stressed mainly through protein supplementation and high protein dairy products. I really don't think she had WLS-that's total garbage she spews.

First off, she never said it on these boards. We're expected to believe she accomplished losing 198# solely by her amazing toughness and willpower to browbeat her unwilling body into submission. But it certainly explained her familiarity with the procedures (she claimed only to have researched them before she created Kimkins.) Secondly, the first couple weeks were very low calorie to allow the stomach to heal. My own DD never ate much above that for the whole time she was losing weight, at least a year, about 14 years ago. Maybe things have changed for the better, but I'm sure DD did not get adequate protein at any time. I believe Heidi because - and only because - she wasn't trumpeting the fact of failed WLS and was keeping it very quiet. That interesting factoid was never confirmed, indeed denied, on these boards. THAT'S why I believe her!

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by Doodle_in_MA

Not sure if this has been posted. The Tipster's latest view on things...

"It does feel as if we are under attack and the worst is that it comes from a lot of people who know little about Kimkins except the hear say from others. The pressure on us is tremendous right now but I personally refuse to cave in to the peer pressure. I have never been on the gossip wagons on the net or in real life. I was glad to leave those high school days behind, lol. I know better than the myths. I have searched other Kimmer threads on other boards as well as here and have yet to find a single REAL case of hair falling out in chunks. What I have found is some hair thinning which is quite common for dieters--even those following Atkins. I addressed this with my own Doctor who tells me it is minimal. Now I know if ever a "chunk" of hair was to fall out of my head I would be running to me Doctor as fast as I could and would stop the diet right away. The people who claim such did not seek treatments and claim they stayed on the diet. I would guess "why" is because they are fictional charactors who don't exist.

Further, I am watching for starvation abuse. Here is what I am seeing: Some newbies get into ketosis so deeply and so fast they lack appetite and don't want to eat at all. Then of course they feel sickly. We have been encouraging them to eat something on plan and they report feeling just fine afterwards. Of course there will always be those who take the plans to the extremes and try cutting back farther and farther. This is the worst you can do for Kimkins plans and yourself. It is far better to switch to a new Kimkins plan (you have a lot of choices) or consider cycling. In fact, there is a new cycle challenge starting out monday by Othila. It looks very promising!"

I don't know Tippy. And I don't want to, either.

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by SMP

First off, she never said it on these boards. We're expected to believe she accomplished losing 198# solely by her amazing toughness and willpower to browbeat her unwilling body into submission. But it certainly explained her familiarity with the procedures (she claimed only to have researched them before she created Kimkins.) Secondly, the first couple weeks were very low calorie to allow the stomach to heal. My own DD never ate much above that for the whole time she was losing weight, at least a year, about 14 years ago. Maybe things have changed for the better, but I'm sure DD did not get adequate protein at any time. I believe Heidi because - and only because - she wasn't trumpeting the fact of failed WLS and was keeping it very quiet. That interesting factoid was never confirmed, indeed denied, on these boards. THAT'S why I believe her!

From reading her old Kimmer threads here and what has been posted elsewhere-this woman has not had WLS. She doesn't have a clue. The first couple of weeks after WLS is liquids-you can kill yourself with solids if you try to eat on an unhealed stomach. Then it's a gradual buildup to thicker liquid type foods, semisoft, soft and then a gradual transition to solids. She just throws the 500 calorie thing out to try to justify the premise of her "Killkins" diet.

[AriAnne]

Originally Posted by Edin

hi, i have a friend who joined kimkins, and she tried to get me to do so, but i didnt, though i kept up on it. in doing some searching on the net, the charges of all kinds of fraud, etc are massive. one site said that people had beacons put on their ip's, by kimkins, so if a person posted somewhere else and it was negative, she banned them.

You mean a cookie? just disable cookies. But I seriously doubt what someone posted about "beacons" or aka cookies.

[kakay]

Mrsmenapausal very well said and NO YOU DONT WANT TO FOR SURE!

Missi hey there. I am ao glad you didnt let any one bully you into not posting. I think its a very admirable thing you did not disclosing what you learned since it could hurt others( I know all about it)