Why the fascination with Kimmer? #3 - Page 24

Gweebles · 09-23-2007, 09:54 AM

Has anyone noticed a lot more "success stories" on her site but these names aren't posters to the forum? Are they more dead people? Are they more of Hidey's personalities?

GypsyVisions · 09-23-2007, 09:57 AM

I have google "alerts" set to get notices anytime something new comes on the web about kimkins or Heidi Diaz. Seems she is busy self promoting this morning.

Kimkins Miracles Do Happen - eArticles

Kimkins Miracles Do Happen -- iSnare.com Articles

I guess this Wouter Van Dyck is one of her various pen names.

Gweebles · 09-23-2007, 09:57 AM

OHH BTW they are backpedaling on the BBB reviews. Tippy put the below.

"Re:* BBB Reviews* 4 Hours, 30 Minutes ago
We are in no way encouraging any review that is not honest and based upon your own experience with Kimkins diet and this site. We want you to just be aware of what is happening and to provide the link so you can do as you see fit. Thanks everyone. We are not soliciting postive reviews. We encourage you to be honest should you choose to make a review.
Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable "

SSSUUUURRREEEE they aren't soliciting positive reviews. And Hidey isn't Kimmer either.

Katinsac · 09-23-2007, 10:09 AM

they are giving positive revews too...so if you haven't done one yet...get over there and tell your side!!

GinaC · 09-23-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AllieCat0817

I'm sure you guys have moved past this topic but I still wanted to post.

Is it possible to have conflicting feelings at the same exact time? That's me.
1) Feel bad and guilty- and NEVER saying anyone else needs to feel guilty- for laughin my azz off at the fat pix-- and just feeling sad at the ENTIRE situation
2) Feel glad that her triflingness is exposed and her biggest supporters have turned against her and that folk are vindicated

and I feel comfy admitting all of it on this thread, cuz on these threads that's all people have done- VENTED! Letting it out! And that's what I'm doing with no shame just like the next person.

The conflicting emotions are the hardest to deal with. Like I said last night, it is because you are a GOOD person that you can still feel pity for her even after all of her lies. I am just at a different point in dealing with this whole situation than you are.

I've had over a year to deal this and it took me almost that long to realize that the agony of my conflicting emotions was only harming me. Nothing that I felt would affect her in the least because she has NO empathy for others. The only person in her universe is Hide-y! She feels no shame for the things that she has done. In fact I believe that the only thing that disturbs her in any way what so ever is for people to laugh at her and her kooky ideas!

By the way, you look wonderful.

mrsmenopausal · 09-23-2007, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gweebles

OHH BTW they are backpedaling on the BBB reviews. Tippy put the below.

"Re:* BBB Reviews* 4 Hours, 30 Minutes ago
We are in no way encouraging any review that is not honest and based upon your own experience with Kimkins diet and this site. We want you to just be aware of what is happening and to provide the link so you can do as you see fit. Thanks everyone. We are not soliciting postive reviews. We encourage you to be honest should you choose to make a review.
Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable "

SSSUUUURRREEEE they aren't soliciting positive reviews. And Hidey isn't Kimmer either.

And I would bet that anyone who posted an honest review that wasn't good would soon find themselves banned.

Katinsac · 09-23-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

And I would bet that anyone who posted an honest review that wasn't good would soon find themselves banned.

right..I'm sure they are checking the screen names...if they were smart, they wouldn't use the same one if not in support...

Locarb4me · 09-23-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sammymomma

Yeah, while these pictures are funny, it is getting to the point that others might think we are an unkind bunch of people....and we are not....to any KK survivors, the humor in this thread is just having some fun, but it is pushing the line as far as I'm concerned becuase it doesn't present the image that we want to. This needs to be a welcoming place for people who are hurting right now...and I know a lot of us feel very vindicated about all of this but really, don't push the envelope to far or the admins here are going to have to clean up a mess and we might lose the openess to talk about all of this here.....
__________________

WELL SAID

WE??????? Did you say WE? Sammymomma, have you seen the light, really? If so, I'm so glad for you.

AllieCat0817 · 09-23-2007, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GinaC

The conflicting emotions are the hardest to deal with. Like I said last night, it is because you are a GOOD person that you can still feel pity for her even after all of her lies. I am just at a different point in dealing with this whole situation than you are.

I've had over a year to deal this and it took me almost that long to realize that the agony of my conflicting emotions was only harming me. Nothing that I felt would affect her in the least because she has NO empathy for others. The only person in her universe is Hide-y! She feels no shame for the things that she has done. In fact I believe that the only thing that disturbs her in any way what so ever is for people to laugh at her and her kooky ideas!

By the way, you look wonderful.

Thank you sweetie. I just know that when I stand before the Judgement Seat of Christ, I pray I get Mercy from Him! That's all.........

MollyBrown · 09-23-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by boobookity

Forgive me if this has been covered before, but how can the Kimkins website feature Christin's and Deni's pictures and stories if they have denounced the diet? Isn't this false advertising?

I don't know for sure but I suspect it could be some kind of intellectual property-type situation. For instance, if you work for some companies and come up with a great idea while you are there and present it to the company, then leave, your idea stays behind with the company where you hatched it. It is their intellectual property.

So unfortunately it may be possible that the former Admins' testimonials are products of their time at Kimkins and may be used however Kimkins desires.

On the other hand, even if it is illegal, Her Royal Heidi has been known to skirt the law -- as we all know.

little_miss · 09-23-2007, 10:30 AM

Why doesn't she just shut kimkins down? She is only digging herself in deeper and no one will forget her past advice or let her forget it so why bother trying to even change what kimkins is now, backpeddling and such to try and make it more acceptable. She just needs to stop taking peoples money and try and have a chance of not getting sued for everything she has. Doesn't she realize she could lose everything if she continues to scam people??

DivaHerself · 09-23-2007, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by little_miss

Doesn't she realize she could lose everything if she continues to scam people??

No. Sociopaths never think they'll be caught, until they're wearing an orange jumpsuit.

sallyk · 09-23-2007, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gweebles

Has anyone noticed a lot more "success stories" on her site but these names aren't posters to the forum? Are they more dead people? Are they more of Hidey's personalities?

Dead people? Did they die before or after the Kimmer diet?

Death does create great weight loss.

But seriously, has she been using pictures of dead people as before/after pics?

I must have missed that one.

MollyBrown · 09-23-2007, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gweebles

OHH BTW they are backpedaling on the BBB reviews. Tippy put the below.

"Re:* BBB Reviews* 4 Hours, 30 Minutes ago
We are in no way encouraging any review that is not honest and based upon your own experience with Kimkins diet and this site. We want you to just be aware of what is happening and to provide the link so you can do as you see fit. Thanks everyone. We are not soliciting postive reviews. We encourage you to be honest should you choose to make a review.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sissypoo

This was just posted on Kimkins by SingingLass:
...if through this WOE and online community you have had positive experiences in your life, health, weight loss...or even just have made good friends here and would like to put a good word in to try to balance things out......please visit the below link to leave a review...

Nahhh, SL wasn't soliciting positive reviews, naaah, nope, nien, nyet...

little_miss · 09-23-2007, 10:39 AM

If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always gotten" - Peter Francisco

I love that!!!

sallyk · 09-23-2007, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by little_miss

If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always gotten" - Peter Francisco

I love that!!!

Thanks. Found it somewhere and thought it so appropriate for my eating history.

Katinsac · 09-23-2007, 10:41 AM

[quote=MollyBrown;9249353]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gweebles

OHH BTW they are backpedaling on the BBB reviews. Tippy put the below.

"Re:* BBB Reviews* 4 Hours, 30 Minutes ago
We are in no way encouraging any review that is not honest and based upon your own experience with Kimkins diet and this site. We want you to just be aware of what is happening and to provide the link so you can do as you see fit. Thanks everyone. We are not soliciting postive reviews. We encourage you to be honest should you choose to make a review.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sissypoo

This was just posted on Kimkins by SingingLass:
...if through this WOE and online community you have had positive experiences in your life, health, weight loss...or even just have made good friends here and would like to put a good word in to try to balance things out......please visit the below link to leave a review... QUOTE]

Nahhh, SL wasn't soliciting positive reviews, naaah, nope, nien, nyet...

geeze, it's like SL has to get the last word in...I love the "even just have made good friends" line....that should cover it as most stayed longer due to the good friends thing, lol.

I have been waiting for my confirmation e-mail from BBB so i can do a review..taking a long time, guess no one is working today, lol...

MollyBrown · 09-23-2007, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DivaHerself

No. Sociopaths never think they'll be caught, until they're wearing an orange jumpsuit.

Yup, the prisons are chock full of people who thought they were too smart to get caught. Sometimes the people scammers con the most is themselves.

DivaHerself · 09-23-2007, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juniper01

Feed yourself what you would feed a person you loved and care for. Love and care for yourself.

This jumped out at me. This is SO true. I've been in the depths of horrifying depression, and the truth is that you HAVE to love yourself. If you don't know how, THAT's the benchmark to use -- don't treat yourself any differently than you would treat a very, very beloved other.

And that is a really good way for anyone to look at their eating -- could you say "I love and respect myself", mean it, and in that spirit eat/not eat as you intended?

riann (I haven't got the rest of your screen name right, please forgive Alzheimer Woman), you've shown the very attributes that make everything right -- remorse and honesty. Those, plus the action you have taken, redeem you in my eyes and heart, those are the words and actions of someone who has a core of good.

The ones who have gone on to calculatedly get what they can from the scam in spite of the information that has come to light -- those are a different story entirely.

Cutie · 09-23-2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locarb4me

WE??????? Did you say WE? Sammymomma, have you seen the light, really? If so, I'm so glad for you.

she never said "we" in that first section...she was just saying "well said" to something someone else said and didn't show it as a quote...don't get your hopes up too high

Lori42 · 09-23-2007, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammymomma

Yeah, while these pictures are funny, it is getting to the point that others might think we are an unkind bunch of people....and we are not....to any KK survivors, the humor in this thread is just having some fun, but it is pushing the line as far as I'm concerned becuase it doesn't present the image that we want to. This needs to be a welcoming place for people who are hurting right now...and I know a lot of us feel very vindicated about all of this but really, don't push the envelope to far or the admins here are going to have to clean up a mess and we might lose the openess to talk about all of this here.....
__________________

WELL SAID

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locarb4me

WE??????? Did you say WE? Sammymomma, have you seen the light, really? If so, I'm so glad for you.

I was wondering about this myself. Has something happened to change your mind?

Lori

P.S. Nevermind--I see there's a mix up with the quotes (I think).

amadeus4313 · 09-23-2007, 10:51 AM

nevermind

MollyBrown · 09-23-2007, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PamB

Ok.........I'm sure this has been answered and maybe I have missed it. So.....Heidi and Kimmer are two different people right? (according to Kimmer) So I have seen Kimmer post but does Heidi post also?

Any of you that are still there or have been there - Are there posts from Heidi or does she have a different screen name?

I believe "Kimmer" also said that Heidi is not computer savvy.

ixtapacheryl · 09-23-2007, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutie

christin and deni signed "model releases" giving kimmer the rights to use their pictures for advertising purposes.

legally, christin and deni's only recourse would be to look into seeing if the releases could be invalidated based on them being signed under false pretenses.

Are you sure they just didn't sign a release for the WW magazine? I can't believe Heidi would be that smart to request a signed release so she could put it on her website - but I might be wrong.

Maybe this was talked about on page ?

and I missed it.....

09-23-2007, 10:51 AM	#712
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09-23-2007, 09:54 AM	#691
Gweebles Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 136 Gallery: Gweebles Stats: HUGE/BIG/Sexy WOE: Whatever works	Has anyone noticed a lot more "success stories" on her site but these names aren't posters to the forum? Are they more dead people? Are they more of Hidey's personalities?

09-23-2007, 09:57 AM	#692
GypsyVisions Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 920 Gallery: GypsyVisions Stats: 200/186/145 5'5" WOE: Atkins Start Date: 6/6/06; Recommit 07/21/07	I have google "alerts" set to get notices anytime something new comes on the web about kimkins or Heidi Diaz. Seems she is busy self promoting this morning. Kimkins Miracles Do Happen - eArticles Kimkins Miracles Do Happen -- iSnare.com Articles I guess this Wouter Van Dyck is one of her various pen names.

09-23-2007, 09:57 AM	#693
Gweebles Senior LCF Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 136 Gallery: Gweebles Stats: HUGE/BIG/Sexy WOE: Whatever works	OHH BTW they are backpedaling on the BBB reviews. Tippy put the below. "Re:* BBB Reviews* 4 Hours, 30 Minutes ago We are in no way encouraging any review that is not honest and based upon your own experience with Kimkins diet and this site. We want you to just be aware of what is happening and to provide the link so you can do as you see fit. Thanks everyone. We are not soliciting postive reviews. We encourage you to be honest should you choose to make a review. Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable " SSSUUUURRREEEE they aren't soliciting positive reviews. And Hidey isn't Kimmer either.

09-23-2007, 10:09 AM	#694
Katinsac MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,610 Gallery: Katinsac Stats: 211.8/192.2/145 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: June 4, 2007	they are giving positive revews too...so if you haven't done one yet...get over there and tell your side!!

09-23-2007, 10:30 AM	#701
little_miss Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Washington Posts: 175 Gallery: little_miss WOE: VLC	Why doesn't she just shut kimkins down? She is only digging herself in deeper and no one will forget her past advice or let her forget it so why bother trying to even change what kimkins is now, backpeddling and such to try and make it more acceptable. She just needs to stop taking peoples money and try and have a chance of not getting sued for everything she has. Doesn't she realize she could lose everything if she continues to scam people??

09-23-2007, 10:39 AM	#705
little_miss Senior LCF Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Washington Posts: 175 Gallery: little_miss WOE: VLC	If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always gotten" - Peter Francisco I love that!!!