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Old 09-22-2007, 06:08 PM   #541
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I had someone ask me that the other day. My take, if it were me I'd be changing that sucker daily and it would NEVER be where I actually live hehe. If you are giving out that type of info I doubt you will want to be found.

Also to the poster a few pages back who said that the people who are working with Heidi are probably there to help the greater good..I gotta call bs on that sorry. But there's no way anyone is gonna make me believe that Tippy is there for the greater good. Same as Osuzana/snowwhatever her name is on there now. You don't yell at people who ask you questions, or divert attention from the bad parts of the diet if you are there to help. You point them to a healthy FREE site....like the one you did a newspaper article about back in April no?


Lynn I'd love to meet your niece. She sounds like a big sweetie! I'm glad you understand no one is trying to be mean to anyone in any situation. But this thread is a healing thread, and those who were hurty by Heidi need to heal. And we all heal in different ways. So we shouldn't judge one another, we should just work together to end that insanity haha. You are a total sweetie!!!
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:13 PM   #542
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Just for the record... I do not feel one bit sorry for Heidi (although I do wonder what circumstances or trick of nature caused her to be so unfeeling) and I am not one bit offended by the pictures. Heidi's feelings are not my concern. My concern is this thread-- this informative, lifesaving thread. I just would hate to see it shut down because someone felt we were making fun of her weight. That's all... well, that and I want any remaining KKers to feel welcome when they finally jump ship.

So, Missi and everyone else, I apologize if it seemed I was trying to tell y'all what you can and cannot say. I would hate to be lumped in the same category as H and TT... not trying to censor, just worried about our thread and our silent friends (the victims, not the minions) from KK who might be reading.
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I don't really get the domino pic controversy?? I thought it was funny!!! She uses the term "DOMINOES" in her diet plan and after seeing her.....well "dominoes" takes a whole new meaning. Come on, that's not MEAN, it's IRONIC! It's not really about her weight, it's about her weight in relation to her "plan."

For the record...I probably look almost as big as Heidi (although I'd like to think I dress much better). And I do feel a tinge of guilt when I look at the pics, but I feel bad for EVERYBODY whether they deserve it or not.
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Ok, seriously, I think if I could find an outfit like hers (where do buy stuff like that anyway?) that my county fair pumpkin cheeks would look just like hers. I have a fold down the middle of my belly too.
I'm fairly certain that if I took a picture of me from the midriff down, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

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I'm not offended at the pics!

Most people are still feeling incredulous at the audacity of a woman who looks like that putting up the red dress pic as her current look.

I agree to not make fat jokes in general as there are many who will be offended.
As long as it's kept in context of the scam that IS kimmer, I don't see a problem.
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Seem like I have a silencing effect piekins hehe. Also I'd like to add that I didn't see a single fat joke in any of those pics. Just because a person uses a picture of heidi in a joke picture does not make it a fat joke. The dominoes picture was perfectly acceptable because it dealt with a key point of her fake diet.

Also to expand on what Diva said, Heidi was mean, really mean to fat people, it stands to reason her karma would be having people say mean things about her. It's the give and take of the world.

And I meant to disrespect to any poster with my thoughts. But again for us to say who can and can't say what on this site makes us no better than heidi. Just a thought.
I'm gonna chime in here. These days, I'm the same size and shape as kimmer and I'm not offended, either.

When I see those kinds of posts, you know what I'm thinking about as I'm snickering? I'm thinking about when I had lost 150 pounds and was a very active poster in the main lobby here. My weight had stalled out about 30 pounds from goal and I posted up asking for help. I'm remembering how Miss Pants on Fire lambasted me and called me a liar about how much freakin cream I put in my coffee! I'm thinking about how she took over my safe haven and place of support and turned it into her own personal liar's den where she ridiculed and attacked others at every turn. I'm thinking about how she ruined the whole main lobby and took away all my support and how I felt like I had no place to go when the pounds started creeping back on. I'm thinking about all the multitudes of people who she made to feel "less" than in order to build herself up over the last many years. There is no longer record of just how nasty she could get here on the ML because it would get so bad that those threads would end up getting deleted by admins.

I'm thinking about how I wish she had some hair so I could grab me a handful and hold onto her while I repeatedly kick her in that huge, lying azz of hers.




The Dominoes pic was way more about her BS about the "domino effect" she made up in her crazy head and touted that if you follwed her lead, you could look just like her! I didn't see it as a "fat joke' at all.
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Now the there is the "new" Kk plan that cycles Atkins/Kimkins, they may not come here. If they start that, they may be OK and never change their opnions. Sounds like the Maintenance will be similar too. But for those who do come, we will all welcome them. Not like a lot of us haven't been there ourselves.
Well the cycling is TT's doing and that fact that Heidi "Kimmer" Diaz agreed to it says alot because she has always said if you tweak it isn't kimkins and has referred to Atkins as Fatkins. Seems like someone wants to share their criminal/legal cupability.

As far as the people who continue to align themselves with Kimkins: There is a saying you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Those people who have read or know where to find the information but refuse to stop the "madness"... they are grown, people (well most of them). People smoke knowing it is bad for their health yet many do it, the ones with the civil legal claims were the ones who did not know the risk.

My issues are the fraud, the lies, the deceit. My concern is for all the people who did/do not know the risk and the truth before 1. forking over $60.00 fat bucks and/or 2. trying the DIE[t]!

Fellow Ducks: Continue to voice your concerns, file your complaints, and get the word out because for those who want to drink water instead of Kimmer Kool Aid there is a sea of information waiting to quench their thrist for knowledge and the truth.

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I'm gonna chime in here. These days, I'm the same size and shape as kimmer and I'm not offended, either.

When I see those kinds of posts, you know what I'm thinking about as I'm snickering? I'm thinking about when I had lost 150 pounds and was a very active poster in the main lobby here. My weight had stalled out about 30 pounds from goal and I posted up asking for help. I'm remembering how Miss Pants on Fire lambasted me and called me a liar about how much freakin cream I put in my coffee! I'm thinking about how she took over my safe haven and place of support and turned it into her own personal liar's den where she ridiculed and attacked others at every turn. I'm thinking about how she ruined the whole main lobby and took away all my support and how I felt like I had no place to go when the pounds started creeping back on. I'm thinking about all the multitudes of people who she made to feel "less" than in order to build herself up over the last many years. There is no longer record of just how nasty she could get here on the ML because it would get so bad that those threads would end up getting deleted by admins.

I'm thinking about how I wish she had some hair so I could grab me a handful and hold onto her while I repeatedly kick her in that huge, lying azz of hers.




The Dominoes pic was way more about her BS about the "domino effect" she made up in her crazy head and touted that if you follwed her lead, you could look just like her! I didn't see it as a "fat joke' at all.
I love your postst! especially the part about grabbing her hair. I'm still laughing as I re-read and respond to your post.
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I'm gonna chime in here. These days, I'm the same size and shape as kimmer and I'm not offended, either.

When I see those kinds of posts, you know what I'm thinking about as I'm snickering? I'm thinking about when I had lost 150 pounds and was a very active poster in the main lobby here. My weight had stalled out about 30 pounds from goal and I posted up asking for help. I'm remembering how Miss Pants on Fire lambasted me and called me a liar about how much freakin cream I put in my coffee! I'm thinking about how she took over my safe haven and place of support and turned it into her own personal liar's den where she ridiculed and attacked others at every turn. I'm thinking about how she ruined the whole main lobby and took away all my support and how I felt like I had no place to go when the pounds started creeping back on. I'm thinking about all the multitudes of people who she made to feel "less" than in order to build herself up over the last many years. There is no longer record of just how nasty she could get here on the ML because it would get so bad that those threads would end up getting deleted by admins.

I'm thinking about how I wish she had some hair so I could grab me a handful and hold onto her while I repeatedly kick her in that huge, lying azz of hers.

The Dominoes pic was way more about her BS about the "domino effect" she made up in her crazy head and touted that if you follwed her lead, you could look just like her! I didn't see it as a "fat joke' at all.

I've been around here off and on for the last 4 years or so - never saying much - just reading and being inspired by the successes of others.

It was sad to read that you felt you lost your support network here because of Heidi. I've been to a lot of different boards, and it's really hard to find a home on one of them. It sounds like you had one, and it was taken away. I hope you are finding the support now that you need.

And on a lighthearted note, maybe her diet isn't a scam after all. Bolded above - if you follow her program, you, too, can look just like she does.
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You know I had a bad day yesterday. I for the day let a couple of bullies (faceless no less) bully me off of this thread because they said I was being mean. I've never been mean to anyone in my life. What I realized today is that there are people out there who just want to be ugly to be ugly.

Also what I've realized today is that some people are in pain. And making pictures seems to make them feel better. Who are you, to tell them they can't? This is a public board. If you do not wish to see the pictures hit ignore on the folks who bother you. But none of us aside from the admins has any right to bully anyone off of this thread.,

I'd like for you all to take a look at the name of this thread. "Why the fascination with Kimmer." Well the fascination with her right now is her weight. Point blank. There are several people who were treated so poorly by her and they deserve the same rights as the rest in that they can post what they want.

And after thinking all day about it, I'm not going to let faceless people bully me off of this thread or site. I've made some great friends here and I will continue to post as much as I want. And if an admin finds my post offensive they will remove it. And if you find my post offensive, I ask that you click on my pic and add me to your ignore list. Simple as that.

This thread is about Kimmer/Kimkins and by extension Tippy and any other admins. If you don't like that, then you shouldn't be here right? That's my .02
I agree with you. This thread is about support and not to bully our members. You've been a great member and have brought so much information to all of us. I for one don't want you to disappear and in fact I've missed you the past couple of days.

Let's not let Heidi divide us .... we are here for the purpose of uncovering the mysteries ..... and we are all in the same boat. She defrauded a great many of us in more ways than money. Each one of us are dealing with it differently - some work tirelessly at uncovering the truth, others research ways to notify the authorities, some research archives, and at times we feel it would help to lighten things up with our cute "ducky" avatars and jokes.

Thank you all for your efforts ..... and don't abandon the ship. We all want the same thing - justice!

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I haven't said anything really about the Tippy thing, I don't know her personally so I am just coming purely from her actions since this whole LCF thread started and to me she is coming across more and more like she is just after a piece of the Kimkins pie.
I'm thinking she is going to come back here and say that she was just working UNDERCOVER to get the Kimkins site to be less dangerous and more healthy, and she had to make Heidi THINK she was on her side so that she could make these changes, but actually she was NEVER working to further Kimmer's objectives and site and was really doing her best to get members to do less Kimkins and more of other plans so they would eat more and not starve, etc. because ....well, whatever.
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I'm thinking about how I wish she had some hair so I could grab me a handful and hold onto her while I repeatedly kick her in that huge, lying azz of hers.
tee hee

I seriously feel your pain. I came over here at the height of Kimmers domination of the site and I thought she was really off the wall with her advice and fasting crap. And I honestly couldn't understand why she had such an old picture on her avatar. I didn't realize she was actually trying to pass off the white shirt picture as CURRENT!! Never occurred to me that was supposed to be her after!

I actually really thought a lot of people here were nuts. Because, I am sure you remember, it wasnt just Kimmer!! It was all the people suckered in by her, helping out with "tips" of lowering cals, cutting this and that, etc. I thought, "heck whats up with this? What's the point of doing Atkins when you cut out all the good stuff?"
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Misty girl I was not talking to you AT ALL. You didn't say anything to people specifically about what they can and can't post. And as far as I understand it the admins will not kill the thread, what they will do is a clean up and a msg on what is not acceptable. Those photos are not a violation as far as I know, but the comment someone made a few pages back about how Heidi needs to wear a tent kinda was mean. Nothing against that poster either, again we all vent in our own ways.

But a pic of Heidi near a dominos guy isn't really a fat joke. I love you to pieces Misty, I woulnd't ever say that to you! _
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I had someone ask me that the other day. My take, if it were me I'd be changing that sucker daily and it would NEVER be where I actually live hehe. If you are giving out that type of info I doubt you will want to be found.

Also to the poster a few pages back who said that the people who are working with Heidi are probably there to help the greater good..I gotta call bs on that sorry. But there's no way anyone is gonna make me believe that Tippy is there for the greater good. Same as Osuzana/snowwhatever her name is on there now. You don't yell at people who ask you questions, or divert attention from the bad parts of the diet if you are there to help. You point them to a healthy FREE site....like the one you did a newspaper article about back in April no?


Lynn I'd love to meet your niece. She sounds like a big sweetie! I'm glad you understand no one is trying to be mean to anyone in any situation. But this thread is a healing thread, and those who were hurty by Heidi need to heal. And we all heal in different ways. So we shouldn't judge one another, we should just work together to end that insanity haha. You are a total sweetie!!!
Thank you I knew no one was intentionally being mean. When you put the part in about being a healing thread it made me even more angry just to realize how down right nasty Kimmer really was to so many unsuspecting people. How sad that her or Tippy don't seem to care how much they truly hurt people.
Like I said earlier, I'm so glad that there are good people that will go take care of the evil people.
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You know I had a bad day yesterday. I for the day let a couple of bullies (faceless no less) bully me off of this thread because they said I was being mean. I've never been mean to anyone in my life. What I realized today is that there are people out there who just want to be ugly to be ugly.

Also what I've realized today is that some people are in pain. And making pictures seems to make them feel better. Who are you, to tell them they can't? This is a public board. If you do not wish to see the pictures hit ignore on the folks who bother you. But none of us aside from the admins has any right to bully anyone off of this thread.,

I'd like for you all to take a look at the name of this thread. "Why the fascination with Kimmer." Well the fascination with her right now is her weight. Point blank. There are several people who were treated so poorly by her and they deserve the same rights as the rest in that they can post what they want.

And after thinking all day about it, I'm not going to let faceless people bully me off of this thread or site. I've made some great friends here and I will continue to post as much as I want. And if an admin finds my post offensive they will remove it. And if you find my post offensive, I ask that you click on my pic and add me to your ignore list. Simple as that.

This thread is about Kimmer/Kimkins and by extension Tippy and any other admins. If you don't like that, then you shouldn't be here right? That's my .02
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I'm thinking she is going to come back here and say that she was just working UNDERCOVER to get the Kimkins site to be less dangerous and more healthy, and she had to make Heidi THINK she was on her side so that she could make these changes, but actually she was NEVER working to further Kimmer's objectives and site and was really doing her best to get members to do less Kimkins and more of other plans so they would eat more and not starve, etc. because ....well, whatever.
And I think people would totally welcome her, if she did the right thing and removed that lie of a bbb post, but she hasn't ya know. Like I said, she did the article in April and said that everyone should sign up at lcf, a free place for help in this journey. Now she's telling people to pay money to learn what they could learn for free. And that's wrong, but she stands to gain some money from it so why not lie? Meh!

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Hi Everyone,

As some of you may know and remember, opposing sites for the last couple of weeks have been linking to, and giving people instructions to leave negative reviews for kimkins on the BBB site. The result is, that many people who have never even tried this diet, or purchased a membership, are leaving reviews parroting a list of things to say....regardless if they are true ( such as saying we promote starvation, laxative abuse etc...).

Many of you posted your own positive reveiws at the start of this tactic, and that was very kind, and much appreciated. However, the situation is still on-going due to those other sites once more prompting people to attack us/ this community in that way. We do not like having to make a public request of this sort, but in light of the situation....the only way to combat what they are doing is to continue to leave reviews of our own. So, if through this WOE and online community you have had positive experiences in your life, health, weight loss...or even just have made good friends here and would like to put a good word in to try to balance things out......please visit the below link to leave a review. Please note that the default rating is three stars, so you have to click/ change that to leave a different rating ( I saw some previous very nice and positive comments left by members who maybe did not realize they had to change that default setting).
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