Why the fascination with Kimmer? #3

[jpatti]

Originally Posted by LosingToLive

I am so tired of of this "poor kimmer" attitute because she is over weight".

I don't think she deserves sympathy.

However, I *also* think that quite a lot of *other* people are made uncomfortable by making fun of her for being fat.

She's a liar, a schemer and a sociopath... but these negative qualities have NOTHING to do with her being fat.

I'm sorry to be so mean but I will NOT back down because I may hurt her feelings. What about all of those out there who felt like "failures" because she said so?

What about people with body shapes similar to Kimmer's who see nasty comments aimed at her because of what she looks like?

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

No you will not be banned for asking legitimate questions, or voicing concerns, nor will you be banned for expressing an opinion. You will however be banned for violations of the Terms of Service, repeatedly posting blatantly negative comments and personal attacks. You will also be banned if you have been warned that your posting isn't appropriate and you continue to post in the same manner

or have a duck avatar.

There, I fixed it.

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by jpatti

I don't think she deserves sympathy.

However, I *also* think that quite a lot of *other* people are made uncomfortable by making fun of her for being fat.

She's a liar, a schemer and a sociopath... but these negative qualities have NOTHING to do with her being fat.



What about people with body shapes similar to Kimmer's who see nasty comments aimed at her because of what she looks like?

I agree.... but this is about KIMMER not them. My gosh... I was there too !!!

Yes I knew I was big but she kept thowing it in OUR faces how we could " BE LIKE HER IF WE FOLLOWED HER PLAN" !!!!

I do agree but "those" who are "her size can eat "right" and get to goal without Kimmer throwing it in their face that they have to lose a pound a day. My Gosh... I was there !!!
( I do Understand what you are saying)

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by LadyN

Ok so what "if" they weren't warned? I remember several people saying there was NO warning. So could this now be used against her since none of these people were warned prior to being banned?

I don't know of anyone that was warned. I was (according to the emails btwn Kimmer and Singinglass) "accidently" banned on purpose because I had a duck avatar and asked about TOS. I truly doubt anyone is being warned. I'd bet that's being said to CTA and to calm the members.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by LadyN

Ok so what "if" they weren't warned? I remember several people saying there was NO warning. So could this now be used against her since none of these people were warned prior to being banned?

and a ps here... I never got a response to any of my emails asking why I was banned or my emails requesting a refund. No response at all.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by sammymomma

When someone(divaherself)posted about my husband cheating with a ***** and I would be stupid enough to think she just fell there... something like that

Your comment about twisting was in reference to Jimmy Moore's quotes about Kimmer admitting she was Heidi Diaz. Wasn't it?

[tiggerr]

I am so tired of of this "poor kimmer" attitute because she is over weight".

I'm not of that mindset, she is not getting much sympathy from me, trust me.
However the pictures with the captions have no relation with what we're trying to do here. Support each other and KK peeps who might wander in.
Sure, they are a hoot. But I'm worried they'll derail this thread.

And it's not worth it.

[pbptm]

Behold the duck
It does not cluck.
A cluck it lacks.
It quacks.
It is specially fond.
Of a puddle or pond.
When it dines or sups,
It bottoms ups.

The Duck - Ogden Nash

I for one think that this thread is allowing a freedom of expression that has not been seen before. I tried to steer clear of the threads Kimmer posted on it simply made me feel sad for all the people she was rude to on lcf.It concerns me that there are even now fasting threads and people not eating well on here.What is best is our health? That for me at least is the most important thing not how fast weight comes off.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by cgkane

I cannot believe Hideykins thinks "her" new cycling plan will CHA.
The people in the most danger? The ones who have been VLC. This "new" plan of hers will be like a binge for them. Purge & binge. Binge & purge. Sound familiar?
And the sad part? They don't even realize it.


Once again- I am so thankful & grateful to those who have saved the evidence from her site. She deserves everything she will get.

Think about it.

This new desperation move of hers might just be the kiss of death for Kimkins. Once those die-hard 300-800 cal-a day supporters try cycling back to Atkins and 1500 calories a day, and find out their metabolisms have slowed to practically nonexistent....there's likely to be some serious repercussions once again and this time, among some of Hidey's staunchest supporters.

I would gloat, but I'm thinking now we're going to begin seeing masses of them ending up in ER with screaming gallbladder pain because they are going to think it's ok to add fat back into their diets and those poor, unused gallbladders full of sludge are going to be revving up and.... I feel badly for those folks.

Personally, I think things are just going to get MUCH worse in the Kimpound.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by gibster

Is it me, but I don't see any changes to the "plans" on the KK website. And, popping in to some newbie support threads, I don't see anyone doing anything other than the original plans, either.

They're working on it. Give it another day or two.

[DivaHerself]

Originally Posted by aloise

I don't understand why Tippy is presenting HER plan as the maintenance plan.

If Tippy believes Kimmer, and if Tippy thinks the pictures and slamboard articles are just a plot by the ex-partner, then why isn't Tippy asking Kimmer for the details of Kimmer's maintenance plan, the one that kept the weight off Kimmer for the last.. 6 years?

To me, this says that Tippy does know that Kimmer did not lose the weight or keep it off. and yet she is still closing her eyes to the fraud that is on the home page about Kimmer's weight loss story. The story that says that Kimmer lost 198 lbs in 1 year on Kimmers. The incredible weight loss story that sold the diet not only to the Women's world customers... but to the people here at LCF.

what is wrong with this picture? terribly wrong?

These are all very good points. And usually the simplest, crassest explanation will work -- they think that maybe with a few CYA tweaks they can keep shilling n00bs and keep the money stream going. Ongoing success isn't their concern -- people who stay on the website suck bandwidth and don't contribute to the income stream. If the diet doesn't work as tweaked, then "sorry Kimkins isn't for you -- you've received the benefit of electronic media!" But they'll still keep rolling scamming the new, the fresh, the unaware.

And like all criminal schemes it overlooks the obvious -- fraud is still fraud is still fraud. The diet was still not invented by anyone who ever lost weight and maintained at 118 for a number of years, as claimed on the home page. No matter what the diet is now, it's still sold and perpetuated based on a fraud.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by Heather150

In the class action suit, are you suing for the refund of your membership or to try to bring her off the net?

Honestly, I want both. She doesn't deserve my money and her members don't deserve to be scammed and/or hurt.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by Carolina Rose

What should be on the Kimkins homepage .....

Jeeez....where's a good forum hacker when ya need one!!!

[Sheridan]

What about people with body shapes similar to Kimmer's who see nasty comments aimed at her because of what she looks like?

I guess I'm gonna be the lone ranger here. Anybody can be offended these days over any dang thing you might care to think of. Most of us posting and lurking here ARE fat! For pity's sake, *I'm* FAT! I'm not the least bit offended with those photoshopped pics. I think they are funny (and APPROPRIATE) as he . . ck.

These photoshopped pics mock and ridicule a morbidly obese woman - a woman who for YEARS on *this very board* - ridiculed, mocked and berated any members who couldn't follow her instructions, the numbers of which seem to be MANY . . . a woman who has conclusively been proven to be a FRAUD. This is called "just desserts" (pun intended). Comeuppance, if you will.

These pics are NOT making fun of just ANY fat person, don't you understand? They are in essence giving "Kimmer" a taste of her own medicine, medicine that was dispensed liberally over many years here.

Thick skin is a "good thing".

[ryudragon]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

or have a duck avatar.

There, I fixed it.

[pbptm]

Originally Posted by Sheridan

I guess I'm gonna be the lone ranger here. Anybody can be offended these days over any dang thing you might care to think of. Most of us posting and lurking here ARE fat! For pity's sake, *I'm* FAT! I'm not the least bit offended with those photoshopped pics. I think they are funny (and APPROPRIATE) as he . . ck.

These photoshopped pics mock and ridicule a morbidly obese woman - a woman who for YEARS on *this very board* - ridiculed, mocked and berated any members who couldn't follow her instructions, the numbers of which seem to be MANY . . . a woman who has conclusively been proven to be a FRAUD. This is called "just desserts" (pun intended). Comeuppance, if you will.

These pics are NOT making fun of just ANY fat person, don't you understand? They are in essence giving "Kimmer" a taste of her own medicine, medicine that was dispensed liberally over many years here.

Thick skin is a "good thing".

I'll be Tonto if you're the Lone Ranger

[GinaC]

Originally Posted by SMP

Hey everyone, doncha think we're getting a bit mean in our comments? Heidi deserves censure, but ridiculing her because she's fat doesn't sit too well with this fat lady. I'd sure hate to see a shot of my fat behind waddling up stairs on a very public forum. (At least she can get up them - I have real difficulty due to bad knees and hips.) But anyway, it WAS funny.

I'm truly sorry that my picture offended you because that certainly was not my intent. I understand what you are saying and would even agree with you if the picture had been of just some random overweight woman. However, I was not ridiculing Heid-y because she's fat. I was doing it because she's a LIAR!!!!

I too fell into the K/E trap of the "Domino Effect". Line up the domino's and watch what happens! My picture represents what happens. My only consolation is that I didn't pay her for the honor of a trashed thyroid, thin hair and an unhealthy fear of food.

She deserves everything that is said or printed about her and yes, I know it was mean but it was also cathartic.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by sammymomma

Jimmy Moore said...

"Excellent work, Becky! Actually, I will add one thing to what you wrote: When I requested my affiliate sales be sent by check and not PayPal, "Kimmer" admitted at that time that she was really Heidi Diaz but "Shhhh, don't tell anyone. It's our secret."

from Becky's site:
In fact, it is only after investigations began closing in that Kimmer began pretending that Heidi was someone else, not her. She told Jimmy Moore that Heidi was her cousin


Really I am in for the truth...believe it or not...but its these kinds of inconsistencies....

really, I am an educated person!! I think there are just too many people posting too many things and different statements...it loses clarity.
Please dont call me stupid, really I am not

Lisa, if you don't realize that two of the closest people to Heidi KNOW FOR A FACT her identity is the same as Kimmer, then there is nothing else anyone can say to you.

Personally, I believe you know the truth. You just find it hard to accept.

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by Sheridan

I guess I'm gonna be the lone ranger here. Anybody can be offended these days over any dang thing you might care to think of. Most of us posting and lurking here ARE fat! For pity's sake, *I'm* FAT! I'm not the least bit offended with those photoshopped pics. I think they are funny (and APPROPRIATE) as he . . ck.

These photoshopped pics mock and ridicule a morbidly obese woman - a woman who for YEARS on *this very board* - ridiculed, mocked and berated any members who couldn't follow her instructions, the numbers of which seem to be MANY . . . a woman who has conclusively been proven to be a FRAUD. This is called "just desserts" (pun intended). Comeuppance, if you will.

These pics are NOT making fun of just ANY fat person, don't you understand? They are in essence giving "Kimmer" a taste of her own medicine, medicine that was dispensed liberally over many years here.

Thick skin is a "good thing".

thank you for saying what was in my head (but didn't come out in typing)!!!!!!!

[ryudragon]

Originally Posted by Sheridan

I guess I'm gonna be the lone ranger here. Anybody can be offended these days over any dang thing you might care to think of. Most of us posting and lurking here ARE fat! For pity's sake, *I'm* FAT! I'm not the least bit offended with those photoshopped pics. I think they are funny (and APPROPRIATE) as he . . ck.

These photoshopped pics mock and ridicule a morbidly obese woman - a woman who for YEARS on *this very board* - ridiculed, mocked and berated any members who couldn't follow her instructions, the numbers of which seem to be MANY . . . a woman who has conclusively been proven to be a FRAUD. This is called "just desserts" (pun intended). Comeuppance, if you will.

These pics are NOT making fun of just ANY fat person, don't you understand? They are in essence giving "Kimmer" a taste of her own medicine, medicine that was dispensed liberally over many years here.

Thick skin is a "good thing".

I'm going to say that this is how I feel, but I can also understand how it could make others uncomfortable. . .it's a difficult thing.

[LosingToLive]

Originally Posted by GinaC

I'm truly sorry that my picture offended you because that certainly was not my intent. I understand what you are saying and would even agree with you if the picture had been of just some random overweight woman. However, I was not ridiculing Heid-y because she's fat. I was doing it because she's a LIAR!!!!

I too fell into the K/E trap of the "Domino Effect". Line up the domino's and watch what happens! My picture represents what happens. My only consolation is that I didn't pay her for the honor of a trashed thyroid, thin hair and an unhealthy fear of food.

She deserves everything that is said or printed about her and yes, I know it was mean but it was also cathartic.

I'm right there beside you in your camp... there are others too. (maybe affraid to speak up now... but they WILL)

[Sheridan]

I'll be Tonto if you're the Lone Ranger

Hi(dey) Ho, Kemosabe!


You're welcome, LosingToLive.

[KimPossible]

Originally Posted by HBGal

I was never warned.

Neither was I. Nor was I answered or given the slightest HINT of ANYTHING. I am just no longer able to even look at the homepage, without logging in...

[mistyk]

One thing about the "fat pix"... whether she deserves it or not, the admins HERE have already warned us not to make fun of her weight (in one of the other Fascination threads). Whether they've lightened up on that or just haven't been in here this weekend, I don't know, but I'd hate to have this thread pulled because of a few silly pix.

And, think of the people coming here fresh from KK. They need to feel welcome. If they see these types of pix, they could think we're just like HER or they could feel as though we're mocking them right along with her.