Why the fascination with Kimmer? #2 - Page 78

kakay · 09-20-2007, 12:32 AM

wow molly you are right, if they didnt interview her in person they couldnt have seen her smile hm VERY INTERESTING

HoneyBee2 · 09-20-2007, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mimosa23
Honeybee: OMG!!! This stuff is just unbelievably awful!!! Feels like I'm reading Animal Farm, not LCF here... These people have created their own little dysfunctional dictatorship over at KK.... Creepy

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Originally Posted by SoHappy

It is very, very "SECRET POLICE". Now we get an idea of what it must have been like when the Gestapo, Storm Troopers, KGB, etc. zeroed in on anyone who had any independant thought and zorched them!
It's pretty amazing, too, to watch the blood-power high that some of the current admins are riding. You can see that having been given power, they wield it with a vicious thrill. I think some are really "getting off" on their power over the others!

I totally agree with you both on the dictatorship of it all. The entire kimkins controversy could be studied in a political science course or a psychology course!

Mimosa23 · 09-20-2007, 03:00 AM

OMG!!! Do you people even sleep???? I've just spent the last 1 1/2 hours catching up on the 12 pages of stuff since I went to bed last night!!!!

I'm seriously worried that I've got no life outside this thread....

Anyway, interesting stuff about TT BTW!!!!

My question still stands:

TT, are you going to come here and answer the questions that you were asked earlier in the thread?

I think it's only fair to be brave enough and stand up for what you believe in and give us an explanation!!!!!

Thankyou....

Buff-N-Tuff · 09-20-2007, 05:13 AM

Missi and Jeanessa

to you for all of your hard work and determination.
As well as many others on here!
I am sure you two will be best of friends by the time this is all said and done.
Party at Jeanessa's or Missi's ?

Look at all the friendships forming on here because of kimmer.
United we stand!

GinaC · 09-20-2007, 05:42 AM

Avatar change to honor Missi

Don't let them use your moral code against you by insinuating that you are doing something wrong.

CarolinaRocker · 09-20-2007, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cryssi

When you click the link, enter "guest" as the login in, no password.

I did that and nothing happened....oh well.

CARBBABY · 09-20-2007, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolinaRocker

I did that and nothing happened....oh well.

I cant get it to work either.

megpie · 09-20-2007, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

Hey, hubby said he thinks the FBI would get involved since the fraud happened across state lines. Anyone know if this is true or just the wishful thinking of a guy who's ticked over losing $60 because of a duck avatar?

The FBI would get involved because of internet fraud perhaps. Certainly the Justice Department will.

CarolinaRocker · 09-20-2007, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sunset

I have been thinking about this for awhile. I have known people with mental health issues. None of them could begin to pull off what Heidi has done. Is it possible she has conned a illness to get disability? I just cannot imagine someone with a severe mental illness being on top of things like she is. And to be able to have this scam (and others) go on for years, including posting all of these lies for years on LCF. How can someone that severely disabled remember all of this stuff? I think someone should send that "after" picture to Colleen Lopez at HSN. I swear I think that picture is Colleen. I would do it but I have no idea how to do it.

that picture is a DRAWING! Even if it was her....its not

I think Heidi kept notes so she could remember it all.

Buff-N-Tuff · 09-20-2007, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CARBBABY

I cant get it to work either.

I cannot get it to work either, but I did get a message stating it is our anti virus program blocking it.

Buff-N-Tuff · 09-20-2007, 06:04 AM

My 17yr old has SCHIZO AFFECTIVE DISORDER and believe me, heidi would need to see a shrink on a regular basis to be diagnosed with ANY kind of mental illness. I agree too, that she would not be able to remember or keep up pulling this off with a mental illness.
My thoughts are you cannot con a shrink, there is extensive testing they do. Not the xrays, ect.. it is a battery of mental testing.
They will not label you unless they are confident, because once you are LABELED, it STAYS in your medical records, like FOREVER!

silversunfire · 09-20-2007, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LosingToLive

I don't think I can send Pm's yet. I will try to find her email address it.

I have about 20 more pages to read so if this has already been supplied by someone else.... sorry.

*running back to read*

kimkinslawsuit@yahoo.com

juniper01 · 09-20-2007, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Buff-N-Tuff

I cannot get it to work either, but I did get a message stating it is our anti virus program blocking it.

Try this link: Image-X Web Viewer:

Buff-N-Tuff · 09-20-2007, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by juniper01

Try this link: Image-X Web Viewer:

That is not working either. It's basically a blank page that shows up.

juniper01 · 09-20-2007, 06:14 AM

Your computer must have some kind of block on it, I would post the page but I know it would not be right to do. It is just a document with Heidi's name, case facts and unfortunately her SS #. But like many posters have said before, it is not a SS that would be worth even a seasoned criminal to steal.

Buff-N-Tuff · 09-20-2007, 06:16 AM

downloading a new version of adobe, that may work, will let you know.
thanks!

LaurieRobo · 09-20-2007, 06:25 AM

I just want to say a special thanks to Missi and Jeanessa for keeping this going... PHEW just caught up!!!

Family issues and new business have really kept me away but I am so glad that this is all coming out!

I've been quiet - finally kicked the laxative crap and am continuing to heal but seeing all this come to hopefully an end will be nice.

TIPPY - Girl

you - Please get your head out of the SAND!!!

BTW: I am cracking up at all the DUCKS!!!!

CarolinaRocker · 09-20-2007, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gweebles

I have noticed a lot of her old posts have been edited. I can't find the one where she basically stated if she knew then what she knows now, she would have fasted the first 150 pounds off. Her MoM posts have a disclaimer on them now stating she doesn't recommend it.

Plus I KNOW I saw a post months ago where she was criticizing fiber suppliments because you carried the weight from them, now it is gone and I see posts talking about their benefits.

WHOO..

..she is doing some serious CYA, no wonder she isn't posting much, she has too much to clean up.

SHe said it right here on LCF:

Honestly? If I knew then what I know now, I would have water fasted the first 100 lbs.

poll

jlshields · 09-20-2007, 06:31 AM

This message and reply were recently posted on one of the "e-book" threads:

Thanks gran to angels... In nursing you learn to document EVERYTHING! I have had many, MANY positive health benefits from this WOE...I do "tweak" it to work for me, and it sure is working...I gave up all white sugar and flour and feel FANTASTIC! Thanks so much for your kind words to me... they are appreciated......

and the reply:

So, I am confused. Is the only thing you gave up sugar and flour? That sounds like Dr. Gott's diet to me.Just asking "cause there seem to be so many people doing tweaks to this deit that I am not sure what to do to lose weight and what this diet is anymore.

I will have to check back later to see if the "nurse" answers the question.

CarolinaRocker · 09-20-2007, 06:33 AM

While searching I found the true Kimmer coming out in this one: Someone who spoke against her 2003.......

Originally posted by Longtimelurker
"If someone is bound and determined to twist and interpret the Atkins guidelines to allow themselves to overeat, there comes a reality check. Dr. Atkins states that his program will produce weight loss FASTER than total fasting. How is YOUR weight loss? Hmmm, maybe some fat (calorie) cutting is in order?"

Kimmer- we have all seen your fitday stuff. YOU twist and interpret Atkins to the other extreme. I think what Atkins says it to have a high fat to carbs ratio. You want everyone to use low fat dressings and cheeses for no good reason. This is definitely NOT the Atkins approach. I can a 5'7 woman who originally weighed 320 pounds. I now weigh 240 and I eat about 1800 calories a day. Sometimes more, sometimes less. You assume that everyone uses 4 tablespoons of dressing. I probably use 1 tablespoon for a large salad. And yes, I use RANCH or other cream dressings. Why am I going to used nasty low-fat italian? Because YOU do and you think you are the weight-loss queen? I would say that yes you lost weight and use a modified low-carb approach. Good for you. But for you to say you follow Atkins and always have, that is not true. You do the Kimmer Diet, not the Atkins Diet. I for one am sick and tired of you making others feel like they are less than you. You berate people for making different choices than you. You give the same advice over and over again with those different smiley faces that make me feel like you are smirking. And don't tell me to post under my own name, because this is the only screen name I have ever had on here. I have lurked for about 1 and a half years and never posted until recently. The reason I even got a screen name was because you and your low fat obsession was getting out of control and it seems people are scared to disagree with you. Live and let live some times Kimmer. I know people ask for advice, and it is great that you give it, but also be kind and give some support and encouragement and go and re-read the book! Atkins wants people to hbave a high fat to carb ratio, especially in induction. And what the heck is "REAL" ketosis? I eat a good amount of fat, about 20 carbs a day, and moderate protein. I eat lots of calories (according to you). My sticks turn purple, my breath is foul, and I am losing weight. What else could I be in??? You lost weight through extreme low calorie (900-1100 a day on average). Yes you lowered your carbs which helped some, but you could have ate all carbs at that calorie amount and lost weight. You did not excercise and that is clearly not Atkins. I have a lot more I could say, but really, just realize everyone is NOT YOU!

Kimmer responded:

Wow! Some people eat out of anger. I'm guessing you might fall into that category?

If you don't agree with my suggestions, you might do yourself a favor and put me on your "ignore" list. I don't want to increase your cortisol levels anymore than they already are!

My suggestions are for anyone having trouble losing. They are free to accept or ignore anything I have to say. As are you.

If you've followed my posts, you're aware that in ketosis you can barely eat anything, which is why I ate so little. I was not concentrating on calories. I've water fasted before and 800 calories is pretty luxurious! I also could not exercise, or I would have lost even faster.

Some people are perfectly happy eat more or cheat each weekend and lose 1-2 pounds a month. I'm behind them 100%, they're making a conscious choice to slow their loss. However, for someone who wants to get to goal before the Apocalyse, there's faster ways.

So, grab a cup of coffee and calm down.

SoHappy · 09-20-2007, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mistyk

Maybe it's a calculated move to show that they DO allow disagreement and discussion. I mean, the poster pretty much dared them to ban her and delete the post. And now, we're all watching... and waiting. Maybe it's finally getting to her royal Hei-ness.

I've thought this too. It's been very entertaining to watch all of Heidi's scrambling and the whirlwind changes that are going on over at her site. She's covering herself as quickly as she can whenever she reads of any action or inaction that might be legally used against her. However, it's all been well documented before she's made all of her mad-dash to get everything all cleaned up and looking innocent.

She must spend hours and hours every day just reading at all the sites and especially here to keep abreast of it all. And then she has to keep going back to read all the comments too in case somebody has mentioned some legal proceeding that has been started that she hasn't heard about yet.

It would be very interesting to know what all investigations and expose's are underway and by what all agencies right now!!! We know of a few, but we also know that MANY were contacted and given lots and lots of information and sites to go read about it all! And you know they wouldn't just come post on LCF to tell us they were busy on the case.

It may or may not take awhile, but I think some very big SNATT is going to hit some very big fans.

Carolina Rose · 09-20-2007, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jlshields

I will have to check back later to see if the "nurse" answers the question.

jlshields ~ thanks for posting that! I can't remember if it was here or at KK (maybe both) where Kimmer flat out stated "if you tweak it, it's not Kimkins." (to paraphrase).

Is that no longer the prevailing sentiment at KK? From what I've read, Kimmer is desperately "cleaning house" trying to make her "diet" appear healthier and more reasonable. I just wondered if she (and her minions) encourage people to tweak now, when just recently she was absolutely opposed to it.

I can see where newbies would be confused.

FaithM. · 09-20-2007, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lalabella

speaking of the woman in the red dress... i have to say, Anani... your post about the woman in the red dress really touched my heart.

thanks so much for writing that.

btw, I know this is from way back there but I really wanted to tell Anani what a spectacular story this was and how much it affected me too! I have also been each of those women at some point in my life. I can't imagine anyone putting it all into words any better than Anani did! So thank you so much for sharing it with us!

missis36 · 09-20-2007, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GinaC

Avatar change to honor Missi

Don't let them use your moral code against you by insinuating that you are doing something wrong.

You goofball! Man you guys do need to sleep hehe.

I'll have some interesting stuff for everyone to read today about the PR Director of Kimkins.com. Stay tuned.

Mimosa23 · 09-20-2007, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolinaRocker

If you've followed my posts, you're aware that in ketosis you can barely eat anything, which is why I ate so little. I was not concentrating on calories. I've water fasted before and 800 calories is pretty luxurious! I also could not exercise, or I would have lost even faster.

OH PUHLEEEZE!!!!! I cannot believe she is still pretending she lost all her weight... LOL

Seriously, I'm starting to think that the only person she's trying to convince is herself now....

09-20-2007, 06:31 AM	#2329
jlshields MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sierra Vista, AZ Posts: 1,425 Gallery: jlshields Stats: 225/154/145 WOE: Crack the Fat Loss Code Start Date: 7/21/08	This message and reply were recently posted on one of the "e-book" threads: Thanks gran to angels... In nursing you learn to document EVERYTHING! I have had many, MANY positive health benefits from this WOE...I do "tweak" it to work for me, and it sure is working...I gave up all white sugar and flour and feel FANTASTIC! Thanks so much for your kind words to me... they are appreciated...... and the reply: So, I am confused. Is the only thing you gave up sugar and flour? That sounds like Dr. Gott's diet to me.Just asking "cause there seem to be so many people doing tweaks to this deit that I am not sure what to do to lose weight and what this diet is anymore. I will have to check back later to see if the "nurse" answers the question. __________________ >:<Jeanne>:< EFGT Official Start 9/13/06 150.5 lbs 9/14/06 151.5 9/15/06 152 9/16/06 151.8 "How does one become a butterfly?...You must want to fly so much that you are willing to give up being a caterpillar."Trina Paulus "Courage is fear that has said its prayers."Dorothy Bernard

09-20-2007, 06:33 AM	#2330
CarolinaRocker Sugar High Hooligan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Crazy Town Posts: 40,326 Gallery: CarolinaRocker Stats: - 25! WOE: LowCarb 7-21-08	While searching I found the true Kimmer coming out in this one: Someone who spoke against her 2003....... Originally posted by Longtimelurker "If someone is bound and determined to twist and interpret the Atkins guidelines to allow themselves to overeat, there comes a reality check. Dr. Atkins states that his program will produce weight loss FASTER than total fasting. How is YOUR weight loss? Hmmm, maybe some fat (calorie) cutting is in order?" Kimmer- we have all seen your fitday stuff. YOU twist and interpret Atkins to the other extreme. I think what Atkins says it to have a high fat to carbs ratio. You want everyone to use low fat dressings and cheeses for no good reason. This is definitely NOT the Atkins approach. I can a 5'7 woman who originally weighed 320 pounds. I now weigh 240 and I eat about 1800 calories a day. Sometimes more, sometimes less. You assume that everyone uses 4 tablespoons of dressing. I probably use 1 tablespoon for a large salad. And yes, I use RANCH or other cream dressings. Why am I going to used nasty low-fat italian? Because YOU do and you think you are the weight-loss queen? I would say that yes you lost weight and use a modified low-carb approach. Good for you. But for you to say you follow Atkins and always have, that is not true. You do the Kimmer Diet, not the Atkins Diet. I for one am sick and tired of you making others feel like they are less than you. You berate people for making different choices than you. You give the same advice over and over again with those different smiley faces that make me feel like you are smirking. And don't tell me to post under my own name, because this is the only screen name I have ever had on here. I have lurked for about 1 and a half years and never posted until recently. The reason I even got a screen name was because you and your low fat obsession was getting out of control and it seems people are scared to disagree with you. Live and let live some times Kimmer. I know people ask for advice, and it is great that you give it, but also be kind and give some support and encouragement and go and re-read the book! Atkins wants people to hbave a high fat to carb ratio, especially in induction. And what the heck is "REAL" ketosis? I eat a good amount of fat, about 20 carbs a day, and moderate protein. I eat lots of calories (according to you). My sticks turn purple, my breath is foul, and I am losing weight. What else could I be in??? You lost weight through extreme low calorie (900-1100 a day on average). Yes you lowered your carbs which helped some, but you could have ate all carbs at that calorie amount and lost weight. You did not excercise and that is clearly not Atkins. I have a lot more I could say, but really, just realize everyone is NOT YOU! Kimmer responded: Wow! Some people eat out of anger. I'm guessing you might fall into that category? If you don't agree with my suggestions, you might do yourself a favor and put me on your "ignore" list. I don't want to increase your cortisol levels anymore than they already are! My suggestions are for anyone having trouble losing. They are free to accept or ignore anything I have to say. As are you. If you've followed my posts, you're aware that in ketosis you can barely eat anything, which is why I ate so little. I was not concentrating on calories. I've water fasted before and 800 calories is pretty luxurious! I also could not exercise, or I would have lost even faster. Some people are perfectly happy eat more or cheat each weekend and lose 1-2 pounds a month. I'm behind them 100%, they're making a conscious choice to slow their loss. However, for someone who wants to get to goal before the Apocalyse, there's faster ways. So, grab a cup of coffee and calm down. __________________ *~~ Lisa ~~* ~~For Michael~~ The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched. They must be felt with the heart. ~ Helen Keller *You can't stay young forever but you can be immature for the rest of your life* I'm fixing the hole where the rain gets in...and stops my mind from wandering where it will go. Last edited by CarolinaRocker : 09-20-2007 at 06:43 AM.

09-20-2007, 12:32 AM	#2311
kakay Senior LCF Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 300 Gallery: kakay WOE: Atkins Start Date: July 2003	wow molly you are right, if they didnt interview her in person they couldnt have seen her smile hm VERY INTERESTING

09-20-2007, 03:00 AM	#2313
Mimosa23 Very Gabby LCF Member!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: State of perpetual confusion! Posts: 3,807 Gallery: Mimosa23 WOE: High fat/ mediterranean diet	OMG!!! Do you people even sleep???? I've just spent the last 1 1/2 hours catching up on the 12 pages of stuff since I went to bed last night!!!! I'm seriously worried that I've got no life outside this thread.... Anyway, interesting stuff about TT BTW!!!! My question still stands: TT, are you going to come here and answer the questions that you were asked earlier in the thread? I think it's only fair to be brave enough and stand up for what you believe in and give us an explanation!!!!! Thankyou....

09-20-2007, 05:13 AM	#2314
Buff-N-Tuff Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Land Of 10,000 Lakes! Posts: 6,367 Gallery: Buff-N-Tuff Stats: 220/199/150 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 9/4/07	Missi and Jeanessa to you for all of your hard work and determination. As well as many others on here! I am sure you two will be best of friends by the time this is all said and done. Party at Jeanessa's or Missi's ? Look at all the friendships forming on here because of kimmer. United we stand!

09-20-2007, 05:42 AM	#2315
GinaC Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 216 Gallery: GinaC Stats: 215/172/130 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: May 2007	Avatar change to honor Missi Don't let them use your moral code against you by insinuating that you are doing something wrong.

09-20-2007, 06:04 AM	#2321
Buff-N-Tuff Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Land Of 10,000 Lakes! Posts: 6,367 Gallery: Buff-N-Tuff Stats: 220/199/150 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 9/4/07	My 17yr old has SCHIZO AFFECTIVE DISORDER and believe me, heidi would need to see a shrink on a regular basis to be diagnosed with ANY kind of mental illness. I agree too, that she would not be able to remember or keep up pulling this off with a mental illness. My thoughts are you cannot con a shrink, there is extensive testing they do. Not the xrays, ect.. it is a battery of mental testing. They will not label you unless they are confident, because once you are LABELED, it STAYS in your medical records, like FOREVER!

09-20-2007, 06:14 AM	#2325
juniper01 MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,661 Gallery: juniper01 Stats: 242/180/145 WOE: Low(er) carb Start Date: Dec 2003	Your computer must have some kind of block on it, I would post the page but I know it would not be right to do. It is just a document with Heidi's name, case facts and unfortunately her SS #. But like many posters have said before, it is not a SS that would be worth even a seasoned criminal to steal.

09-20-2007, 06:16 AM	#2326
Buff-N-Tuff Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Land Of 10,000 Lakes! Posts: 6,367 Gallery: Buff-N-Tuff Stats: 220/199/150 WOE: Atkins Start Date: 9/4/07	downloading a new version of adobe, that may work, will let you know. thanks!

09-20-2007, 06:25 AM	#2327
LaurieRobo Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 760 Gallery: LaurieRobo Stats: Pregnancy High 237 175/155/150-155 WOE: Fueling my workouts and running with plenty of FAT Start Date: March 2002	I just want to say a special thanks to Missi and Jeanessa for keeping this going... PHEW just caught up!!! Family issues and new business have really kept me away but I am so glad that this is all coming out! I've been quiet - finally kicked the laxative crap and am continuing to heal but seeing all this come to hopefully an end will be nice. TIPPY - Girl you - Please get your head out of the SAND!!! BTW: I am cracking up at all the DUCKS!!!!