Why the fascination with Kimmer? #2

[Binsk]

There is one line in that Love Kimmer thread that was posted on KK

"Thanks to you sharing your knowledge and personal experience with the world... we now are FREE!"

What knowledge? She knows zilch about nutrition. As for personal experience - she lied, she never lost the weight. If she had shared her personal experience and said "I've got this diet plan that never worked for me but I'll sell it to you for $60." would you still be calling her a saint? And as for - we now are FREE, how can you be free when you paid $60. to a scammer.

[Tippy Toes]

Just for the record...

I was offered admin status previously by Christen and turned it down. So, slamboards is incorrect.

My cruise? Been set up and planned for months as a family cruise. Love the slant like it was some indiscretion. Oh please.

Fruit diet? Still trying to figure that one out. Could be the Rotation Diet I followed for a little more than a week that didn't work. Southbeach? I tried to break an Atkins stall. It also didn't work. Atkins fat fast did work but was miserable. Kimkins did work and was better. Slamboards, please get the info straight before you slam...

I hesitate to say too much about postive change at Kimkins because I may be percievied as trying to promote the site. That would be a violation of LCF rules and I do not wish to do that. However, I will say I have searched thru Kimkins boards here and there and have yet to find a single post about clumps of hair falling out. Not one. (Not the new ones which have come here or survivor tall tales either--posts before this contraversy) What I do see is occasional hair shedding. This is an occurance which also happens to some Atkins followers--myself included in the beginning of Atkins. Cheri tells me it is not uncommon.

Today I spoke with my own Doctor about Christen's blog report of hair shedding and skipping periods. He said that was of little concern and common during weight loss.

I refuse to fight with you all over Kimkins. I have used the plan a lot and know that it does work. I am not interested in Kimmer's personal life, although clearly many are.

I am sorry if my job acceptance has angered some of you. But, I stand firm in my beliefs of a diet that works. I know first hand how bad it is to see the only hope not working and in my case it was Atkins. And Kimkins offered me hope and got me to goal. Kimkins delivered what was promised.

Now, you wonder why I can't see "the truth"???? Slamboard lies.

I will not be responding further or answering any questions at this point. I have work to do and taking time out for gossip isn't what I need to focus on.

I wish you all the best with your weight loss journeys. Just remember--Atkins doesn't work for everyone. Some of you I have grown very fond of and would never leave. I am still very much a member here and proud of it.

[sammymomma]

Originally Posted by Tippy Toes

Just for the record...

great post!

[FirmJuneBug]

Tippy, I'm really worried about why you're not concerned that you are working so closely with someone who lies so purposefully and easily. I don't know if everything on slamboard is true, it sure looks that way, but there is no denying those pics are indeed kimmer/Heidi Diaz.

I know you believe in the diet. That's your right and I can respect you for that, but how in God's name can you believe in Kimmer herself, when everything we know about her is a total lie.

You seem like a nice person. Please protect yourself. Don't doubt for one second you may be dragged into this lawsuit, if just to testify. Or that Kimmer will throw you under the bus once you're no longer useful to her.

[Divabunny]

Wow, where can I get a pair of rose colored glasses? It's one thing to believe in a way of eating low cal/fat/carb etc. it's another to support an obvious fraud, which kimkins/kimmer is. By supporting her diet/site you support her.

[TammySue]

I have no doubt that Kimkins WORKS as far as losing weight.
However, the problem is the deceit, lies and getting rich while scamming others.

[FirmJuneBug]

I was just reading things in the original Kimmer thread and am just stunned by what so many were eating. I had no idea people were being encouraged to eat less than 500 calories a day - that is so sad and scary. ((((hugs)))) to everyone who abused this diet because of kimmer's encouragement. It makes me sick to know Kimmer looked over those down right dangerous fitdays, and approved of them!

I had no idea she was promoting such extremely unhealthy things. I always rejected kimkins because it was so low in fat and calories, something I think is unhealthy for the long-term, but I had no idea people were nearly starving themselves! Sorry if I sounded critical earlier.

[Yelnats]

Hi Tippy Toes:

My DH and I have been following your cycling WOE with Kimkins/Atkins for almost 3 months now. (Checked out Stillmans, did not stick with it.) Between us, we are over 100 lbs lighter. Bottom line, yes, it works. KUTGW Thanks, Yeln

[SMP]

Originally Posted by GypsyVisions

Yeah, I was thinking about this particular post this morning. The " No one knows who Kimmer is" statement. Well, Tyna KNOWS who Kimmer is. There is always SOMEONE out there that knows who you are. She can be a sharp cookie about some things, but this statement is downright foolish.

In fact, Tyna knows who Heidi is. And Heidi told us she's Kimmer, in both words and deeds. But even smart cookies get dunked, and this is a slam dunk!

[FirmJuneBug]

Originally Posted by TammySue

I have no doubt that Kimkins WORKS as far as losing weight.
However, the problem is the deceit, lies and getting rich while scamming others.

I agree. The actual diet, well at least the original kimkins diet - not the laxatives/ultra-low calorie version, is a minuscule part of the issue.

Kimmer started a diet based on her success, and sold it to others promising the same, when she's never weighed 118 pounds since probably the day she was born. Not to mention the lies about the foster kids she doesn't have, the misrepresentation of where the proceeds from this diet go, and the published emails to her former admin that prove this is all about the money for her. This is a sick, twisted woman.

She needs to be shut down. I don't know how anyone with integrity can stand beside her, considering the damning evidence that's come to light.

[Divabunny]

Why do people feel the need to come into this post and say "Kimkins works!" Well duh anytime you cut your calories way, way, way down your going to lose weight. It's annoyong to no end that kimmer put her name on a fact that we all already know to scam people. Don't try and kid yourselves people, by supporting kimkins you support kimmer. If your fine with supporting a liar and a cheat go ahead with your "I love kimkins" post.

[FirmJuneBug]

Originally Posted by Yelnats

Hi Tippy Toes:

My DH and I have been following your cycling WOE with Kimkins/Atkins for almost 3 months now. (Checked out Stillmans, did not stick with it.) Between us, we are over 100 lbs lighter. Bottom line, yes, it works. KUTGW Thanks, Yeln

Your first post from Tuesday is pretty telling about your identity and/or intentions here.

[Binsk]

Tippy Toes wrote on the Kimkins Maintainer thread August 15:

"Get, I don't like or want SNATT. I think it is actually a warning signal. Glad you are making the switch to 72. If that won't work ask Miss M what she suggests on the other thread. She seems really wise about mixing it up and you know what I think about that? I think she will hit a whole lot less stalls this way. I like her ideas a lot and I think she is smart so do pay attention to her posts."

The bold was added by me. How can you say it's a warning signal and promote a diet that wants you to experience SNATT? I used to follow your threads about cycling between Atkins/kimkins and you would often voice how you just didn't want to do the Kimkins cycle, that you dreaded it and I was surprised because you were within 5 pounds of your goal weight.

[anipomoni]

Originally Posted by FirmJuneBug

I don't know how anyone with integrity can stand beside her, considering the damning evidence that's come to light.

They can't.

Even worse, I can't imagine someone who has actually developed/exacerbated their own health issues from such a dangerous low carb/low cal diet can support it.

[Tryin2drop40]

Tippy,
Thank you for coming here and stating your peace! I am a little worried that your Dr is not worried about the hormonal changes that cause menses irregularities and hair loss, but he is your Dr and should know your body better than any of us Good luck to you in this new avenue in your life, I honestly hope that it doesn't affect you the way it has many others. You are the one in charge of your life and make your own choices as we all do. It saddens me to think that you may be Heidi's next victim as you have always been so nice to me in these threads. I wish you only the best.

[Binsk]

Tippy Toes also wrote in the starting Atkins again thread on August 14:

"Get, you asked so I will say. If you can lose the weight doing Atkins 72, go for it! Let's face facts that Kimkins is tough. Why suffer if you don't need to? Try it and see."

[mama MIA]

Kimkins works because starvation will make you lose weight. Well, duh!!


My take on the whole story,
Heidi Diaz made up a fictional online person, Kimmer. Kimmer has a diet plan called, Kimkins. We all know that Heidi is not Kimmer or follows Kimkins, pictures of Heidi prove that. People, like Tippy are backing up a fictional character and her diet.
In Heidi's own words, "I'm completely unconcerned. If Kimkins is sued, it won't be me in court."

It's very sad for the members here(for years) and at Kimkins, who thought they had a relationship with a real person named Kimmer, that lost weight blah blah bah... They looked up to her and shared thier life with her. To find out that thier friend was a fictional person?

[ImCuterThinner]

Originally Posted by Tippy Toes

Just for the record...



I am not interested in Kimmer's personal life, although clearly many are.

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This is the part of the argument that I have never understood. Eat what you want, you're an adult - who cares. But....

Consider what kind of life you want to live, the kind of person you want others to see that you are. The choices you make, the friends you choose, the way you conduct your business affairs all tell the story of who you are. Why would anyone with integrity choose to align themselves with a known liar and someone who is obviously living a life of questionable intentions.

You are known by the company you keep

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by GypsyVisions

Yeah, I was thinking about this particular post this morning. The " No one knows who Kimmer is" statement. Well, Tyna KNOWS who Kimmer is. There is always SOMEONE out there that knows who you are. She can be a sharp cookie about some things, but this statement is downright foolish.

I would imagine her landlord knows her and knows what she looks like..... What about her neighbors? There are always people out there that know you. What about the employees that work in the store where she was pictured by the PI?

[AllieCat0817]

Tippy thanks so much for posting in here. Since I can't contact you, feel free to contact me anytime.

[HBGal]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I would imagine her landlord knows her and knows what she looks like..... What about her neighbors? There are always people out there that know you. What about the employees that work in the store where she was pictured by the PI?

But do they know "Kimmer", and imaginary person, or do they know Heidi Diaz?

[lisabinil]

Originally Posted by Tryin2drop40

Tippy,
Thank you for coming here and stating your peace! I am a little worried that your Dr is not worried about the hormonal changes that cause menses irregularities and hair loss, but he is your Dr and should know your body better than any of us Good luck to you in this new avenue in your life, I honestly hope that it doesn't affect you the way it has many others. You are the one in charge of your life and make your own choices as we all do. It saddens me to think that you may be Heidi's next victim as you have always been so nice to me in these threads. I wish you only the best.

Once again hair loss and menstrual irregularities can be from any type of weight loss program not just Kimkins. I am not a Kimkins fan or follower but this is just scientific fact.

[Divabunny]

Originally Posted by HBGal

But do they know "Kimmer", and imaginary person, or do they know Heidi Diaz?

Exactly. CA isn't really like the midwest where you take the time to know all your neighbors. Her friends (if any) and family probably have no clue about this scam she's running.

[boogie]

Anytime you cut your intake to practically nothing you will lose. Look how skinny people in 3rd world countries there are. Are they healthy? Do they die young from being skinny or from malnutrition? Drug addicts are also skinny. As an ex pro dancer I can tell you that many due in fact take drugs to stay slim. Are they healthy? Some of them have died (friends of mine) from strokes and heart issues. Drug related? Maybe. From being skinny? Doubtful. When you don't eat enough, you lose not only fat but muscle and organs. I suffered from anorexia and can attest to that when I got medical help. I lost weight when I was anorexic but was I healthy? No. Did I most likely shorten my lifespan? Probably. Ask yourself, is having to lose weight so fast that you are potentially (I say potentially because not one person can say that long term is healthy) hurting or shortening your lifespan worth the risk? Please know that losing weight in a slower healthy manner is better for long term health and wellness. Please don't be so desperate to throw it all away just to lose in 6 months as opposed to one year.

Bottom line no matter how you look at it, is that the diet KK proposes is not what it is cracked up to be for long term health. I am qualified to say this as an ex anorexic with a challenged metabolic system now. The KK diet reminds me very much of how I ate back then. Sure, if you are overweight, you are risking your health, but to follow a diet plan like this is, it is just as dangerous. I'm sure most Dr's will congratulate a KK member for their loss but if you were to tell them what the diet really is, I don't think any Dr worth their degree would praise it as a continued WOE.

[mama MIA]

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Originally Posted by Tippy Toes
Just for the record...



I am not interested in Kimmer's personal life, although clearly many are.

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There is no Kimmer, there is no lady in a red dress named Kimmer that lost weight!
This is about Heidi Diaz and the person she made up with a starvation diet. For you to keep up the false facade that there is a real life Kimmer, is off the wall.

[JustKim]

Originally Posted by mama MIA

It's very sad for the members here(for years) and at Kimkins, who thought they had a relationship with a real person named Kimmer, that lost weight blah blah bah... They looked up to her and shared thier life with her. To find out that thier friend was a fictional person?

You just put into words what I am struggling with and cannot express. I get the whole physically she is not who she proclaimed to be. But is she also NOT the person I have shared so much with all these years? Is that person a fictional character as well? Does any part of THAT person that I had called a friend TRULY exist?