Why the fascination with Kimmer? #2

[RockyMtnAngelEyes]

Originally Posted by jayed

I only have 4 going. I feel like a slacker.

Or, for once in my l,ife, I am an over achiever...

[RockyMtnAngelEyes]

Originally Posted by SMP

Just a nitpick, but did anyone notice Mary credits Kimkins with only PART of her success? Unlike a certain admin who gives it all the glory for her 112 lb loss!

It was only the last few pounds, and after the People mag, she publicy posted {here} that she wishes she wound have NEVER even mentioned KK...

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by Doodle_in_MA

There are a lot of other diets out there for you to tap into. I've been on everyone of them and none of them met my expectations. HOWEVER, this one does. [/b]

Wow if KK meets your expectations --- then I question your guage! After all that has been discovered, PI pictures of the "founder", the foster kids scam, etc., etc. and you still find the KK site to be the best ---- is beyond my comprehension!

Someone help me out here.

[JoanieOrchard]

This is probably a crazy post, but I am curious about what it is like on the Kimkins site. I'm not willing to spend 60.00 to find out.

LCF has approximately 65,000 members, and I'm sure many of them go back many years and aren't even here anymore, but look how busy this board is.

Kimkins, on the other hand, has over 40,000 members (supposedly), and approximately 40,000 of them have joined just in the last 3 months.

It seems that since they paid for that membership, that board would be jumping.

I guess my question, and this is probably directed to the people who are still accessing the Kimkins site, is it a busy site? Could you go into their forums and spend hours reading (like you can here)? Are there thousands of active members on there every day? I don't get the impression that it is a really busy site. It sounds like there's hardly anyone there.

That makes me wonder if she really DID get 40,000 members in the last three months, and if so, where are they? By the comments made in these threads, I know a lot of people have come to LCF, but where the heck are the rest of them?

I know there have been a few people here defending Kimkins, but ... since Kimkins is a low-carb type of program, it's odd to me that many more of the Kimkins members haven't found their way here. If you're doing any kind of low carb and you do a search for low carb, LCF is one of the first links to come up.

Do you think these people just walked away, or are they still really active on Kimkins, and we're just not hearing about it.

Just curious.

[KROERT]

It is pretty slow. It seems like the same people posting most of the time. Maybe a lot of the members realized what a sham it was, and haven't been back. And with all the banning that's going on there will be a lot less people.

[anani]

This made me very angry!

Singinglass said ….."and one of the things I have seen is people wanting to try to manifest dirt—-so a harmless seeming question about how low they can go with calories or laxatives could potentially be a setup to try to get a response they can use somehow. I may sound paranoid, but I think it is a very real issue right now that should be considered in our responses….I personally am trying to be “safe” in my responses, refer to the reading, eating when hungry, and of course to check with doctor."
(bolded by me)

So Singinglass... you're trying to be "safe"? Why did you put apostrophes around "safe"? and I have concerns about the trying part of this statement too. Isn't safe advice what should always have been given out as standard policy? If safe advice had always been a policy at Kimkins, why would you be worried about being trapped or tricked into saying something you shouldn't. Why the caution to the other admis if you have laways done your job properly.
Why do the admins even need this coaching session in the first place?

No need for anyone to manifest dirt Singinglass..you guys have created boatloads of it yourself. You soooo busted yourself. You guys create BS as easily as most of us breathe.

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by KROERT

It is pretty slow. It seems like the same people posting most of the time. Maybe a lot of the members realized what a sham it was, and haven't been back. And with all the banning that's going on there will be a lot less people.

Thank you for replying! It all just boggles my mind because I wonder, with all that's been said here (and other places), and IF the Kimkins site is like a graveyard, I wonder why people are still staying there.

I don't get it.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by KROERT

It is pretty slow. It seems like the same people posting most of the time. Maybe a lot of the members realized what a sham it was, and haven't been back. And with all the banning that's going on there will be a lot less people.

So that 40K is just a figment of Heidi's imagination? I doubt seriously if she ever had 40,000 members.... When I was a member I couldn't believe the amount of times I would check and no one was posting. Gosh you visit LCF and there is all kinds of activity....

I was just thinking --- there is no way I would have posted how many members I had ..... it could come back to bite her in the butt. All that tells me is she must have "deep pockets" ..... and there has to be plenty of money for damages....

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

This is probably a crazy post, but I am curious about what it is like on the Kimkins site. I'm not willing to spend 60.00 to find out.

LCF has approximately 65,000 members, and I'm sure many of them go back many years and aren't even here anymore, but look how busy this board is.

Kimkins, on the other hand, has over 40,000 members (supposedly), and approximately 40,000 of them have joined just in the last 3 months.

It seems that since they paid for that membership, that board would be jumping.

I guess my question, and this is probably directed to the people who are still accessing the Kimkins site, is it a busy site? Could you go into their forums and spend hours reading (like you can here)? Are there thousands of active members on there every day? I don't get the impression that it is a really busy site. It sounds like there's hardly anyone there.

That makes me wonder if she really DID get 40,000 members in the last three months, and if so, where are they? By the comments made in these threads, I know a lot of people have come to LCF, but where the heck are the rest of them?

I know there have been a few people here defending Kimkins, but ... since Kimkins is a low-carb type of program, it's odd to me that many more of the Kimkins members haven't found their way here. If you're doing any kind of low carb and you do a search for low carb, LCF is one of the first links to come up.

Do you think these people just walked away, or are they still really active on Kimkins, and we're just not hearing about it.

Just curious.

I know that a lot of people have been banned. I don't have a number. I'm sure we're not hearing about all of them or the people that chose to stop being a part of it all. I didn't find it too crowded when I was there the last several times. It seemed to me that posting was much less than when I first joined. But, maybe that has to do with a lot of deleting, too. who knows.

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by anani

This made me very angry!

Singinglass said ….."and one of the things I have seen is people wanting to try to manifest dirt—-so a harmless seeming question about how low they can go with calories or laxatives could potentially be a setup to try to get a response they can use somehow. I may sound paranoid, but I think it is a very real issue right now that should be considered in our responses….I personally am trying to be “safe” in my responses, refer to the reading, eating when hungry, and of course to check with doctor."
(bolded by me)

So Singinglass... you're trying to be "safe"? Why did you put apostrophes around "safe"? and I have concerns about the trying part of this statement too. Isn't safe advice what should always have been given out as standard policy? If safe advice had always been a policy at Kimkins, why would you be worried about being trapped or tricked into saying something you shouldn't. Why the caution to the other admis if you have laways done your job properly.
Why do the admins even need this coaching session in the first place?

No need for anyone to manifest dirt Singinglass..you guys have created boatloads of it yourself. You soooo busted yourself. You guys create BS as easily as most of us breathe.

Pretty wild, right? can I say unreal again without anyone slapping me? lol

[JoanieOrchard]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

So that 40K is just a figment of Heidi's imagination? I doubt seriously if she ever had 40,000 members.... When I was a member I couldn't believe the amount of times I would check and no one was posting. Gosh you visit LCF and there is all kinds of activity....

I wonder about that whole 40,000 number too. I know that many quit. Many walk away. Many decide it's not for them, but still if 25% of the people stay with it, that would be 10,000 active members. It hasn't been that long since most of these people supposedly signed up.

Has there been any verification from the former admins that yes, they really did get 40,000 members?

[Doodle_in_MA]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

I know that a lot of people have been banned. I don't have a number. I'm sure we're not hearing about all of them or the people that chose to stop being a part of it all. I didn't find it too crowded when I was there the last several times. It seemed to me that posting was much less than when I first joined. But, maybe that has to do with a lot of deleting, too. who knows.

The main boards are really slow. Just the same people all the time. The journals and challenges are busier, but not anywhere near as busy as they used to be!

[mrsmenopausal]

Originally Posted by JoanieOrchard

I wonder about that whole 40,000 number too. I know that many quit. Many walk away. Many decide it's not for them, but still if 25% of the people stay with it, that would be 10,000 active members. It hasn't been that long since post of these people supposedly signed up.

Has there been any verification from the former admins that yes, they really did get 40,000 members?

I don't now if the number was verified but I know I read on Becky's blog about there being a lot of new members after the WW article. I can't remember if she mentioned how many.

[jayed]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

So that 40K is just a figment of Heidi's imagination? I doubt seriously if she ever had 40,000 members.... When I was a member I couldn't believe the amount of times I would check and no one was posting. Gosh you visit LCF and there is all kinds of activity....

Well right after the magazine came out it was super busy there for a while. But I think the site lost a lot of traffic from existing members around that time because of the change to the new forum and the change in atmosphere with all the newbies. Also many people seemed to post for a very limited time. I think there are many more horror stories out there that we don't know about. But still 40,000 seems to be an exaggeration.

[lisabinil]

A lady in my office is doing Kimkins-she joined after the article in WW. She is really gung ho as most Kimkinites are. She tried to recruit me after she found out I was on Atkins. I asked her if she would email me some success stories from the website and other info so I could make up my mind. I specifically asked her for Tippy's success story and after reading I hate to say this but Tippy is not claiming all her weight loss is from Kimkins alone. She does give credit to Atkins and explained her cycling of the two. What disturbs me though is the almost cult like atmosphere-it's creepy. All the thank you'ing and blessing of Kimmer going on and it's like a mantra repeated over and over. Like sheeples following mindlessly along.

[robsrib]

Originally Posted by magnolia_petals

hi...is this the new admin on kimkins? if so, then Heidi is bringing out the whips!!! Tarvos’s Thoughts » Weight Loss and google on him to check out the other groups he is involved in *shudders*

Here is what he posted on Sept. 5th "......I also have the distinct honor of having been offered (and having accepted) a position as an admin on the site. While this gives me the option to make changes to posts in the forum, and opens a few new options in the chat room, it doesn’t really change anything. Of course it does require that I pay more attention to what I say, and how I say it but I should be able to handle that........"

This is his idea of paying more attention to what he says and how he says it "Personally I don’t give a damn what you think about the plan, and if you can’t be supportive I would happily ban you but that’s not my job here. I am here to ensure that negativity is kept to a minimum."

I'd hate to think what his response would have been if he wasn't paying attention!

Bold used for effect.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

A lady in my office is doing Kimkins-she joined after the article in WW. She is really gung ho as most Kimkinites are. She tried to recruit me after she found out I was on Atkins. I asked her if she would email me some success stories from the website and other info so I could make up my mind. I specifically asked her for Tippy's success story and after reading I hate to say this but Tippy is not claiming all her weight loss is from Kimkins alone. She does give credit to Atkins and explained her cycling of the two. What disturbs me though is the almost cult like atmosphere-it's creepy. All the thank you'ing and blessing of Kimmer going on and it's like a mantra repeated over and over. Like sheeples following mindlessly along.

Is your friend still a member or has she been banned? Is she even aware of the controversy?

[anani]

Originally Posted by mrsmenopausal

I don't now if the number was verified but I know I read on Becky's blog about there being a lot of new members after the WW article. I can't remember if she mentioned how many.

I remember Becky saying there were 40,000 members after the WW article.

[lisabinil]

Yes she's still a member and refuses to even talk about the controversy. It's like shes in lalaland and tells me they have a link to some doc who states that the side effects from a low fat and VLCD are temporary and will reverse themselves or some such nonsense. I'll ask her tomorrow for the link and the doc's name. She kind of annoys me because she knows it has taken me 6 months to lose 23 lbs and how much faster it would be for me on Kimkins. I just very politely tell her I'm doing Atkins under the care of my PCP and my testing came back great and I have no desire to change what I'm doing.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by ryudragon

I don't know. . . my credit card (online statement) says: 14 11 JUN PAYPAL *KIMKINS COM 402-935-7733 CA
59.95

But my Paypal history shows NOTHING & even the woman on the phone couldn't find it. . .

Is it over the 90 days current listings?

[missis36]

Originally Posted by lisabinil

Yes she's still a member and refuses to even talk about the controversy. It's like shes in lalaland and tells me they have a link to some doc who states that the side effects from a low fat and VLCD are temporary and will reverse themselves or some such nonsense. I'll ask her tomorrow for the link and the doc's name. She kind of annoys me because she knows it has taken me 6 months to lose 23 lbs and how much faster it would be for me on Kimkins. I just very politely tell her I'm doing Atkins under the care of my PCP and my testing came back great and I have no desire to change what I'm doing.

Sad that she doesn't realize the weightloss is also temporary and once she begins to eat she's gonna gain it back and then some. sad

[Katinsac]

Originally Posted by missis36

SMP it would be petty to break down how one lost one's weight. So to credit it all to a WEBSITE is more acceptable. Come on, how hard is that to understand?


ETA: Way to go Kat. Now you can join the lawsuit hahaha (

I already did Missy...right in the beginning!!

As far as those banned and receiving the e-joke, I'm sure I received mine after also. I think the problem is, they don't keep track of who they ban or their e-mail addresses so they just do a mass e-mail to everyone. Kinda a shame though, it would be less copies! They must be down to about only 1,500 member now, right?

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by robsrib

Here is what he posted on Sept. 5th "......I also have the distinct honor of having been offered (and having accepted) a position as an admin on the site. While this gives me the option to make changes to posts in the forum, and opens a few new options in the chat room, it doesn’t really change anything. Of course it does require that I pay more attention to what I say, and how I say it but I should be able to handle that........"

This is his idea of paying more attention to what he says and how he says it "Personally I don’t give a damn what you think about the plan, and if you can’t be supportive I would happily ban you but that’s not my job here. I am here to ensure that negativity is kept to a minimum."

I'd hate to think what his response would have been if he wasn't paying attention!

Bold used for effect.

8 members signed up for the challenge (1 ton by Dec.23)? Where are the rest of the 39,992 members? OMG he sounds like a real drill officer. I didn't read the entire article but is he now working for Heidi?