Why the fascination with Kimmer? #2

[GypsyVisions]

Originally Posted by AllieCat0817

Thanks-
Did yall see this?

WTH? That's Jaclyn Smith! Does she honestly think she's Jaclyn Smith?

Come on!

[AllieCat0817]

Well SHE may not have created that site....... who knows. Just thought it was interesting.

[HBGal]

Originally Posted by GypsyVisions

WTH? That's Jaclyn Smith! Does she honestly think she's Jaclyn Smith?

Come on!

Gross. It's probably something someone else did, though, as a way to get affiliate earnings. I wouldn't be surprised. Some people will stop at nothing when it comes to money.

[HBGal]

I'm so glad PrettyPaula realized what was truly going on.

[Heather150]

Originally Posted by Tippy Toes

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It's all right here, people. You are the masters of dirt digging so go ahead and dig it up.

Ok how's this for some digging (and this is just on the first page) Calling all Kimmers Maintainers--how has it been for you?

1. Although I am a big Kimmer fan (and I really am) I have seen too many folks get trapped without being able to raise calories or carbs later, making it impossible to live on over 800 calories a day without gaining

2.But, I do think you shouldn't stay on it too long

3. Even trying to lower this and that and add in a few carbs wouldn't budge the scales. So just imagine 6 months of Kimkins and where you would go on that stall

4.So I would return to Atkins where it was easier anyway

5. Take very seriously what CartBabe said... Don't stay too long on Kimkins, OK?

[missis36]

Well done Heather!!! That'spretty good.

Public apology to Pretty Paula, I just want to say I'm very glad you are on the healthy side now. And it's very impressive that you have posted a blog to confirm it! I'm impressed.

[jayed]

Originally Posted by Doodle_in_MA

Kimmer posted today:

"What Happened?" 1 Hour, 10 Minutes ago

"I you guys alone for one day and I hear we're getting sued? Ordinarily I'd have something to say, but I'm sure our attorney would prefer I not "help" him, LOL.

The anti-Kimmer will do what they have always done (I do make friends easily, don't I?) We will continue to do what we do. Bottom line is that we are here to stay and the forums are permanent.

I'll leave this thread here for today, then I'm moving it to Kimkins Chatter. For every 1 member who wants todiscuss details, we get 10 member PMs for "we don't want to hear about it." Democracy in action."

I guess Heidi got her internet connection all set in Mexico.

[Doodle_in_MA]

Originally Posted by jayed

I guess Heidi got her internet connection all set in Mexico.

She's wearing a sombrero over the wig now too

[Katinsac]

What Happened? 30 Minutes ago
What members tell me is they aren't anxious for their posts to be broadcast by the anti-Kimmer groups.

The latest rumor is that I'm posting under different names? But my all time favorite is that "Kimmer" is actually a creation of Jimmy Moore's! Whoops, the latest, latest rumor is that I've gone to Mexico! Here's a tip: If I were fleeing the country I'd pick one without an extradition treaty ... duh.

Now, if "anyone" is concerned with how much I am or am not posting (and still being without a computer notwithstanding), this is Sunday. We have plans for brunch and I have non-posting-related project deadlines to work on. That is, if "anyone" cares.

Mexico???


Wonder if she is eating Chicken at the brunch? Note the computer problems still....wonder where she posted this from...

[CarolinaRocker]

Originally Posted by Heather150

It's all right here, people. You are the masters of dirt digging so go ahead and dig it up.

Ok how's this for some digging (and this is just on the first page) Calling all Kimmers Maintainers--how has it been for you?

1. Although I am a big Kimmer fan (and I really am) I have seen too many folks get trapped without being able to raise calories or carbs later, making it impossible to live on over 800 calories a day without gaining

2.But, I do think you shouldn't stay on it too long

3. Even trying to lower this and that and add in a few carbs wouldn't budge the scales. So just imagine 6 months of Kimkins and where you would go on that stall

4.So I would return to Atkins where it was easier anyway

5. Take very seriously what CartBabe said... Don't stay too long on Kimkins, OK?

Wow! Now thats some awesome diggin right there Heather

[AllieCat0817]

She acts like she isn't reading it all right here. As if people are 'telling' her what we're saying. That's the most comical thing lol.

[missis36]

Originally Posted by Katinsac

What Happened? 30 Minutes ago
What members tell me is they aren't anxious for their posts to be broadcast by the anti-Kimmer groups.

The latest rumor is that I'm posting under different names? But my all time favorite is that "Kimmer" is actually a creation of Jimmy Moore's! Whoops, the latest, latest rumor is that I've gone to Mexico! Here's a tip: If I were fleeing the country I'd pick one without an extradition treaty ... duh.

Now, if "anyone" is concerned with how much I am or am not posting (and still being without a computer notwithstanding), this is Sunday. We have plans for brunch and I have non-posting-related project deadlines to work on. That is, if "anyone" cares.

Mexico???


Wonder if she is eating Chicken at the brunch? Note the computer problems still....wonder where she posted this from...

Um.....how does an admitteed agoraphobic go to brunch? Come on this is just getting too deep to shovel out of at this point. And it was me who started the Mexico rumor hehe....and it wasn't a rumor it was speculation, much like your diet...a theory with no fact to back it up. However, I said Mexico because it's easy for you to get to, and because it's easy to hide there.

[Tippy Toes]

[quote=AllieCat0817;9214990]Tippy, do you still rotate btn Kimkins and Atkins? When you do Kimkins, how many cals do you take in, and for how many days? When you do Atkins, how many cals do you take in and for how many days?



On maintenance I no longer rotate Atkins with Kimkins. However, I do use Kimkins as part of maintenance. Like folks who use Atkins induction if they go over their maintenance zone, I use Kimkins. Again hard to answer without sounding like I am promoting but I will try. What I like about using Kimkins for maintenance is that IF I over indulged or ate off plan and do go out of my comfort zone, Kimkins takes it off fast. I mean real fast. Recently I was on a cruise and I ate a lot of foods, a lot of fats--even pizza and such. I gained 5.5 lbs. I began Kimkins right away. Two days later I am back in the comfort zone. In another day or so I will be back where I began before the cruise. So for myself, Kimkins is making maintenace pretty easy. But keep in mind I am still new to maintenance. So far it's working very well.

I don't use fitday often so really I am unsure of my calorie counts when doing Kimkins but I would estimate them around 700 or 800. Possibly days higher--never lower though. Same for Atkins--I just don't pay much attention to calories. I will say the one thing Ducky got right about me is that I am a big eater. (And that was about the only truth) I admit I can eat more than most men. What I have learned is it is the source the calories come from rather than the exact calorie total. For example, 1000 calories of healthy food will not make me gain weight but 1000 calories of junk food will. I would estimate I take in 1500 to 2000 Atkins calories a day. There are two things that seem to cause me to gain. One is sodium. I have become very sensitive to it. So much so that drinking softened water is a problem. I know many of you have sodium issues as well. The second culprit is unhealthy fats. Of course many are combined with sodium making it a worse problem for me. I cannot eat a lot of bacon, sausage, hot dogs, ham or processed foods. I CAN eat more carbs in veggies IF I limit protein on that day and maintain. So it's a trade off.

Most importantly, I have learned that by slowly re-introducing certain foods I can gradually add them back in.

I have done Kimkins for 30 days without a break. I cycled back to Atkins easily enough on induction levels minus processed salty foods. (Normally I prefer a week at a time as Cutie stated so don't mis-read this.) Once on induction for a couple of weeks and since starting maintenance, I have learned I can move up the carb ladder IF I reduce both fats and proteins. However, I prefer higher protein.

Some ask how or why I would stay when it has been proven the founder is a fruad. Nothing has been proven to me yet that would merrit this abuse of anyone. I have already noted Slamboards and Kimkins exposed doesn't always state facts (like my sucess story in the newsletter referring to fat fast as miserable and they took it out of context, implying I was referring to Kimkins) , slants in the direction they are implying and prints pure gossip based on hear say. I know this because someone right here who does not like me told something that was hear say about me and there it was in print. She and I both know who she is, don't we? I have suspected this sort of thing all along about the slams and exposed boards. This I know now for FACT since they wrote about me. The rest is still pure speculation. I would never judge anyone based on this nonsense. I do know none of this came to surface UNTIL the biz partnership fallout... And it IS Catherine's husband writing the slamboards by his own admission. I believe he is also Ducky. Ducky is another point of great interest to me. Why hide behind a duck? Why hide at all? Seems Kimmer cannot remain private and anonymous but Ducky can? That tells me a lot. So, I see a lot of back stabbing and it is obvious where it comes from. And obvious why it was created and with purpose of closing Kimkins down.

Another point I have of concern is that I cannot find a single post previous to this thread on this site or kimkins about hair lost in CLUMPS. I do further believe many of the junior members here who only post on this thread are indeed plants, along with Kimkins survivor tall tales. With all the deciet it is difficult to find the "truth". But the truth I have found that I am CERTAIN is truth is that the diet does work.

Do I think Kimkins is safe? Yes I do if done as written. No I don't if abused. That's one reason I am so delighted with my job because I have a chance to help people see they don't have to abuse it to lose weight.

I read a previous post that some Doctor's don't understand nutrition. Well, my Doctor seems to have a good knowledge of low carb as well as low calorie. He was, in fact, aware of ketosis and what it does. I showed him the bootcamp plan--the toughest plan of all. His response was that he thought it was fine for a short term use and further, with added protein was fine for long term use. He recommends quality supplements for ANY diet plan.

I hope I have answered your questions. As I said, it's hard to do it and not violate rules from this site. As far as I know we aren't allowed to mention competitors websites at all so I am really unclear what can and cannot be said at this point. I have much respect for LCF and the admins and would never want to cross the line. So much so that I spoke to Cheri BEFORE I accepted the position to be sure I would still be welcome here. She assures me I am.

Carolyn, I am sorry I disappoint you. I am disappointed too that you would spend so much time in a gossip mill. But I guess that is neither here nor there.

[Crohnie]

how sad

[Bobbin]

Originally Posted by CARBBABY

Tippy,
I have a question, I see that you are on maintenance. What is your daily carb count? Do you still have to alternate plans to maintain? Just trying to understand since KK doesnt have a maintence plan, seems like its an ongoing battle.

I'm not going to look for it, but I'm sure I've read that when ever she gets a few pounds above her goal weight, she does the Kimkins diet for a few days till her weight goes back down, then does Atkins most of the time.

I don't know Tippy, I haven't been here long enough to make a judgement, but could this all be about money? I mean it's a paid position she's got now, right? Maybe she and Kimmer have been close for a long time, and she's got a thing for making lots of money, just like Kimmer? That's just speculation, like I said I don't know her at all.

[CarolinaRocker]

Tippy: Do I think Kimkins is safe? Yes I do if done as written.

the way its written NOW or the way it was written a couple of weeks ago

Why did Kimmer/Heidi hide her "real self" for so long?

[mamajo100]

Hi, I'm back on Low Carb Friends, starting today, trying to find some encouragement and support that I need to get started and stay on a low-carb diet. I was thinking about trying Kimkins and I happened to start reading this thread. I apologize if these are really stupid questions, but I am really new to all of this - is the Kimkin's diet plan not supported? Is there a question as to there being some misrepresentation of the diet and the founder herself (I read something about different names being used)? Are people joining her organization and then leaving and why? Any info would be greatly appreciated - thanks!

[missis36]

I have suspected this sort of thing all along about the slams and exposed boards. This I know now for FACT since they wrote about me. The rest is still pure speculation. I would never judge anyone based on this nonsense. I do know none of this came to surface UNTIL the biz partnership fallout... And it IS Catherine's husband writing the slamboards by his own admission. I believe he is also Ducky. Ducky is another point of great interest to me. Why hide behind a duck? Why hide at all? Seems Kimmer cannot remain private and anonymous but Ducky can? That tells me a lot. So, I see a lot of back stabbing and it is obvious where it comes from. And obvious why it was created and with purpose of closing Kimkins down.

Um...are you kidding me? I'm not trying to be disrespectful here but really come on? Who cares who ducky is if the info is in fact true? I could care less what plans you have done and have never speculated as to which you have used....although I have read your comments here, and never have you said that you did Kimkins for 30days at a time until just now.

I personally spoke with a relative of Heidi, I personally spoke with members of the foster care agency. SHE DOES NOT NOW NOR HAS SHE IN AT LEAST 7 YEARS HAD A FOSTER CHILD!!!! This being said, how can you still associate yourself with someone who LET you raise money for a charity that does not exist? That's my question Tippy. How can you let someone use you for their financial gain.

You answered some questions but you did not answer how if you are so pro on this diet it's not a good idea to make your info free to those people as opposed to letting a greedy liar profit off of you.

Those pics on slamboard are Heidi, as confirmed by her family member? How do you say it is not?

Sorry but I am not impressed with your staunch support of something you seem to be burrying your head in the sand about.

Also please see the info that in fact NONE of her plans as written are nutritionally sound. You can't dispute doctors...or can you???

[Pam40]

Originally Posted by Heather150

It's all right here, people. You are the masters of dirt digging so go ahead and dig it up.

Ok how's this for some digging (and this is just on the first page) Calling all Kimmers Maintainers--how has it been for you?

1. Although I am a big Kimmer fan (and I really am) I have seen too many folks get trapped without being able to raise calories or carbs later, making it impossible to live on over 800 calories a day without gaining

2.But, I do think you shouldn't stay on it too long

3. Even trying to lower this and that and add in a few carbs wouldn't budge the scales. So just imagine 6 months of Kimkins and where you would go on that stall

4.So I would return to Atkins where it was easier anyway

5. Take very seriously what CartBabe said... Don't stay too long on Kimkins, OK?

Wow, just wow. This was posted by TippyToes a mere 5 months ago. This is hardly a ringing endorsement of the plan is it?

[missis36]

Originally Posted by Pam40

Wow, just wow. This was posted by TippyToes a mere 5 months ago. This is hardly a ringing endorsement of the plan is it?

But wait she just said she does it 30 days at a time right? Well this doesn't make any sense. I'm so confused, wait no I'm not...you can't backtrack to back up your new position Tippy, that is still fraud. Especially since the new position is a paid position.

[missis36]

Originally Posted by mamajo100

Hi, I'm back on Low Carb Friends, starting today, trying to find some encouragement and support that I need to get started and stay on a low-carb diet. I was thinking about trying Kimkins and I happened to start reading this thread. I apologize if these are really stupid questions, but I am really new to all of this - is the Kimkin's diet plan not supported? Is there a question as to there being some misrepresentation of the diet and the founder herself (I read something about different names being used)? Are people joining her organization and then leaving and why? Any info would be greatly appreciated - thanks!

Mamajo welcome back. The only think I can suggest is that you go to the 3fatchicks website and read that post. It will explain all of the current goings on with the Kimkins issue.

By not supported I'm not sure who's support you are looking for however it is NOT supported by a majority of us. There is no question to the misrepresentation of the owner of kimkins as she is a fraud and this is a proven fact. The people who have joined and left have realized that her plan is in fact dangerous, and leads to ed's especially in folks with a history of ed.

Hopefully this helps.

[Sheridan]

Hi, I'm back on Low Carb Friends, starting today, trying to find some encouragement and support that I need to get started and stay on a low-carb diet. I was thinking about trying Kimkins and I happened to start reading this thread. I apologize if these are really stupid questions, but I am really new to all of this - is the Kimkin's diet plan not supported? Is there a question as to there being some misrepresentation of the diet and the founder herself (I read something about different names being used)? Are people joining her organization and then leaving and why? Any info would be greatly appreciated - thanks!

Here is a very well written summary:

3 Fat Chicks on a Diet Official Website for Weight Loss Support - Kimkins: Anatomy of a Diet Scam

[Sheridan]

This was posted by TippyToes a mere 5 months ago. This is hardly a ringing endorsement of the plan is it?

Um, no it's not.

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by missis36

....although I have read your comments here, and never have you said that you did Kimkins for 30days at a time until just now.

well, the one and only time i did it for a month was the fundraiser challenge last summer...tippy did i