Why the fascination with Kimmer? #2

[xf89]

NM. I've been banned. Just for posting here. WTH?

[stilldews]

Well I may as well get myself banned too.

I just visited Kimkins and found a thread under Kimkins Chatters about how to stop the hate. It asked for suggestions on changing the plans to make them healthier. I added these suggestions. I'm sure there are many more ideas that could be added, so if you can still post, you might want to add your comments:

"I would like to see some information included in the plans discussing the need for Omega 3 fatty acids in the diet. For example here is a link with good information.
Omega-3 fatty acids

Maybe a suggestion that if a person eats less than 3 servings of fatty fish a week such as salmon that they include another source of Omega 3's such as flax seed oil or fish oil supplements.

I would also like to see documented information about there being no such thing as the starvation response. I think some individuals such as myself find that after a few months of very low calorie dieting it becomes very difficult to lose on even as low as 500 calories and that eating even 800 calories may cause a weight gain. After 3 months of Kimkins, It has taken me a number of weeks to get my metabolism back to a point that I can eat even a 1000 calories a day without gaining. Maybe a suggestion of a week or 2 of metabolic re-adjusment every few months would be a good idea. That way when goal is reached, it will not be so difficult to get the pounds off.

Many low carb plans also recommend taking potassium and magnesium supplements especially during the first week or 2 of low carbing when you are losing lots of fluids rapidly to prevent electrolyte inbalance. Maybe even the suggestion of adding a little extra salt to the food if dizziness is a problem.

Lack of calcium in the plans is also a concern to me. Most mulitvitamins don't contain nearly enough for the average woman. Maybe a suggestion of getting at least 1000 mg a day or something like that?

And how about a simple way to calculate your miniumum daily requirement of Protein so that everyone is eating at least enough to repair and maintain their bodies."


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Susan

[CarolinaRocker]

Im thinking of a song for Heidi....

paranoia will destroy ya........

[CarolinaRocker]

Susan...your post was a great one and its stuff that people should be doing....the only thing I think might trigger a ban is the mention of starvation. Thats a really sore spot with Heidi

[scottish steve]

Originally Posted by stilldews

Lack of calcium in the plans is also a concern to me.

A distinct lack of every major and essential mineral is a huge problem on that "plan" and one that it's followers need to be aware of.
A "centrum type" multi vitamin doesn't contain any significant amount of these minerals, and the ones it does contain don't come anywhere close to the RDA %

[pbptm]

Originally Posted by scottish steve

A distinct lack of every major and essential mineral is a huge problem on that "plan" and one that it's followers need to be aware of.
A "centrum type" multi vitamin doesn't contain any significant amount of these minerals, and the ones it does contain don't come anywhere close to the RDA %

I totally agree the plan is deficient in all aspects." If" it is changed though to include all necessary minerals vitamins and calories It'll be Atkins won't it??

[GypsyVisions]

Originally Posted by xf89

NM. I've been banned. Just for posting here. WTH?

I've read of several people that has happened to. So you're not alone.

I see you only have 2 posts

[Tippy Toes]

I have deleted no journals and have no info about this subject. Period. Yes I am PR but I am not running the site at all. That is not my job.

I am getting pretty sick of being called a liar about my weight loss jouney. It's all right here, people. You are the masters of dirt digging so go ahead and dig it up. Atkins quit working year one. Tried his fat fast. It worked and that is the plan I called miserable in Kimkins newsletter (I read what Kimkins exposed said and gosh...another lie) but I could only do it so much and my average loss from fat fast was 3 lbs a month. Yes I have tried Southbeach, EFGT, and The Rotation Diet. All seemed promising at first when I saw the scales move down a pound BUT it always came right back. Here's one more for those of you who think any low calorie plan works. The Rotation Diet consist of only 600 calories a day. After one week it was the same story--a pound lost and a pound gained. Kimkins is the plan that worked for me after Atkins quit aside from fat fast and Kimkins was a whole lot easier. Yes I did alternate Kimkins with Atkins. On Kimkins I lost, on Atkins I maintained the loss.

I am not dead. Rather than ask questions about me HERE, why not just go straight to the source and PM me? That would eliminate a lot of this useless gossip.

[AllieCat0817]

Originally Posted by missis36

Girl please everyone knows Mai-tais are NOT on kimkins. Too many carbs and the alcohol. That's a no no...oh wait,we are talking about Heidi, forget it, she's not on Kimkins.

Thank you for my wake up laugh! haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah you are CRAZY.

[Mariasol]

Originally Posted by Tippy Toes

Just for the record...
I will not be responding further or answering any questions at this point. I have work to do and taking time out for gossip isn't what I need to focus on.

[Pleiades]

Originally Posted by Cutie

admins at kk really are on a power trip...earlier, they just up and deleted someone's whole journal...that's such an unnecessary personal attack

That is horribly wrong. Disgusting

[AllieCat0817]

Originally Posted by stilldews

After 3 months of Kimkins, It has taken me a number of weeks to get my metabolism back to a point that I can eat even a 1000 calories a day without gaining. Maybe a suggestion of a week or 2 of metabolic re-adjusment every few months would be a good idea. That way when goal is reached, it will not be so difficult to get the pounds off.

Thank you for posting this. The MOST IMPORTANT thing in my opinion is to get the word out that their metabolisms CAN BE FIXED. It just takes TIME. Just because you see a gain at first when adding back cals doesn't mean you are doomed. You have to give it time like you said. THANKS.

[AllieCat0817]

I think its better for Tippy to reply to any questions here than not say anything at all.

[Tippy Toes]

I feel I cannot respond fairly as my previous post was edited and reasonably so. I understand. These admins here have a job to do and are doing it. But, if I am not free to post unedited then I can't say what I mean so it seems pointless. I also do not want to appear to be promoting the other site. So that leaves me on a fine line with little to say. I really hate the personal attacks and the gossip mill this has become. But I can defend myself in my weight loss journey and I sure will. As I said--it's all right here people.

Also, one more thing... How can people expect to write and trash a site on THAT SITE without expecting it to be removed? If you try that here the same thing will happen, I can assure you.

[Boujie]

Originally Posted by Tippy Toes

I have deleted no journals and have no info about this subject. Period. Yes I am PR but I am not running the site at all. That is not my job.

I am getting pretty sick of being called a liar about my weight loss jouney. It's all right here, people. You are the masters of dirt digging so go ahead and dig it up. Atkins quit working year one. Tried his fat fast. It worked and that is the plan I called miserable in Kimkins newsletter (I read what Kimkins exposed said and gosh...another lie) but I could only do it so much and my average loss from fat fast was 3 lbs a month. Yes I have tried Southbeach, EFGT, and The Rotation Diet. All seemed promising at first when I saw the scales move down a pound BUT it always came right back. Here's one more for those of you who think any low calorie plan works. The Rotation Diet consist of only 600 calories a day. After one week it was the same story--a pound lost and a pound gained. Kimkins is the plan that worked for me after Atkins quit aside from fat fast and Kimkins was a whole lot easier. Yes I did alternate Kimkins with Atkins. On Kimkins I lost, on Atkins I maintained the loss.

I am not dead. Rather than ask questions about me HERE, why not just go straight to the source and PM me? That would eliminate a lot of this useless gossip.

TT - I'm so very curious.

I'm happy that you've lost on KK - but, doesn't it bother you that you're assisting a fraud? A scam artist? This is proven. How do you explain the mass exodus of admins? They refused to perpetrate the lie.

Doesn't it bother you at ALL?

For me, it would be a morals issue. She's lying. That's a fact. How can you follow so blindly?

I'm truly curious as to what guides your moral compass....

[Lisa46]

Originally Posted by AllieCat0817

I think its better for Tippy to reply to any questions here than not say anything at all.

I agree, Allie. I hope Tippy WILL answer the questions that exist.

[CroweKitty]

[quote=Tippy Toes;9214754]I have deleted no journals and have no info about this subject. Period. Yes I am PR but I am not running the site at all. That is not my job.
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Tippy, congrats on your weight loss. You have worked very hard for it and it is deserved.

Two questions:

1) How can you still support a woman who has obviously lied to us and you about her weight loss? Even if she followed her plan, it obviously didn't work because she is heavier than her "before pictures". If the plan didn't work for her, who's to say it will work long term for anyone else. (You don't still believe she is NOT Heidi Diaz, do you?)

2) How can you support fund raising for her "foster children" when facts have come out that she hasn't had foster children since 2000. It sounds like she set you up for that scam! Why would you set yourself up for another one?

I honestly want to know your view.

[CarolinaRocker]

Advertising all over the internet (and here) that she has MAINTAINED her weightloss for 6-7 years and charging people to find out how....thats the kicker. Liars suck.

Front page:

It's called Kimkins and was developed by me, Kimmer, in 2000 when I weighed a morbidly obese 318 pounds! In less than a year I lost 198 pounds and kept it off!

[BetsyAnn]

Originally Posted by missis36

Awesome!!

Hey did ya hear, seems Heidi has been MIA on the site for the last day or so...hmmmmm?

Maybe she was banned???

[Tippy Toes]

Again, I walk a fine line here. But I am going to try to answer at least this. I can understand why you would be curious.

I support a diet I know works. I know what it is like to feel hopeless and trapped in an obese body with no way out. And I mean NO WAY OUT. I thought Atkins would do it but it failed. I spent a lot of time in tears over that. Kimkins did not fail me. In fact, the diet does exactly what it promises. I got my life back. I see lots of other people, both here and there who have had the same experience. If not for Kimkins I think I would have given up. The fat fast sucked. I do not support or judge any particular person--I support and judge the plan. I paid for a plan to help me lose weight and that is what I got. The plan is not fraud. And for those in the same boat as me, the plan is life changing. If we have no Kimkins diet, where will we be? I don't think it's fair to take that away from those in need because you don't like the founder. The diet works. And for many is necessary.

I have previously commented about the foster fundraiser. Nothing has changed.

I have made a lot of friends here, and well...apparently a lot of enemies. The enemies are jumping at the chance to stir the pot and my goodness it is so obvious. But I have news: You will NOT run me out of here or there. I refuse to be bullied.

[wifezilla]

Yeah. That moral compass. That's what I want to know about. I don't doubt you lost weight. Your photos look very genuine. But by your own admission, most of that weight loss was due to atkins. And you cycle between atkins and kimkins. Yet Heidi's newsletter seems to credit it all to HER plan.

She scammed everyone. She isn't a size 4. She isn't 118lbs. She hasn't maintained a weightloss for 6 years. Her plan is nutritionally bankrupt (if it was sound, there would be no need to cycle, would there?). And you joined the Kimkins team AFTER the big lies had come to light.

???????????????????????

[AllieCat0817]

Originally Posted by Tippy Toes

But I have news: You will NOT run me out of here or there. I refuse to be bullied.

Good, PLEASE don't leave here!!! Good!

[Tippy Toes]

[quote=wifezilla;9214961]Yeah. That moral compass. That's what I want to know about. I don't doubt you lost weight. Your photos look very genuine. But by your own admission, most of that weight loss was due to atkins. And you cycle between atkins and kimkins. Yet Heidi's newsletter seems to credit it all to HER plan.

The records of my weight loss are all right here. Her newsletter was correct. I submitted the story and was printed word for word--unedited.

[AllieCat0817]

Tippy, do you still rotate btn Kimkins and Atkins? When you do Kimkins, how many cals do you take in, and for how many days? When you do Atkins, how many cals do you take in and for how many days?

I think the above post by Stilldews is so important:

I would also like to see documented information about there being no such thing as the starvation response. I think some individuals such as myself find that after a few months of very low calorie dieting it becomes very difficult to lose on even as low as 500 calories and that eating even 800 calories may cause a weight gain. After 3 months of Kimkins, It has taken me a number of weeks to get my metabolism back to a point that I can eat even a 1000 calories a day without gaining. Maybe a suggestion of a week or 2 of metabolic re-adjusment every few months would be a good idea. That way when goal is reached, it will not be so difficult to get the pounds off.

Many low carb plans also recommend taking potassium and magnesium supplements especially during the first week or 2 of low carbing when you are losing lots of fluids rapidly to prevent electrolyte inbalance. Maybe even the suggestion of adding a little extra salt to the food if dizziness is a problem.

Getting the message out that you can fix a damaged metabolism-

After 3 months of Kimkins, It has taken me a number of weeks to get my metabolism back to a point that I can eat even a 1000 calories a day without gaining. Maybe a suggestion of a week or 2 of metabolic re-adjusment every few months would be a good idea. That way when goal is reached, it will not be so difficult to get the pounds off.

[Tippy Toes]

Allie, I am on my way out the door but will respond when I return. I am happy to answer that.

[missis36]

Originally Posted by Tippy Toes