Why the fascination with Kimmer? #2 - Page 102

Mercuryfan · 09-21-2007, 09:41 AM

Hi...I'm a lurker, but have been following this saga from the beginning. I know this is off topic, but could someone please post a link where I can find the picture of Heidi/Kimmer in WW magazine, the leopard print one? THANKS!!!!

I want to compare it to a picture of Heidi Collins from CNN.....I think there is an amazing resemblence.

marnaewilson · 09-21-2007, 09:42 AM

[quote=SeashellsByTheCshore;9242220]

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Originally Posted by sammymomma

there have just been so many things that 1 says is fact and EVERYONE runs with it...I guess I need more proof....

Thats all.

God almighty you remind me of the woman who walks in on her husband having sex with another girl.....and says......."well I am not for SURE that they were REALLY having intercourse, maybe he just fell down on top of her and couldn't get back up, so he needed to move around as much as he could to break free!!!!!

That's a great analogy. Reminds me of the saying, "There are none so blind as those who will not see."

KajunDC · 09-21-2007, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DivaTai

What more proof do you need that there's at least something not quite right at the Kimkins organization? Even if you believe that Kimmer isn't Heidi Diaz and let's say that you don't, wouldn't you question why someone would keep someone like this on their payroll, so connected to the company? Wouldn't you question why Kimmer refers to herself as Catherine's former partner when it's been stated numerous times that Heidi K. Diaz was Catherine's former partner? Wouldn't you question why Kimmer would have referred to herself countless times at LCF as Heidi Kimberly Miller Diaz and now state that's not who she is while she's also used a picture of Heidi Diaz here as her before picture? Wouldn't you question why this now national figure won't submit to any face to face interview to clear her name citing agoraphobia as the reason but some how manages to do countless volunteer work with the public? The e-book that she claimed took so long because she wanted it to be picture perfect but came out more like an extended e-mail wrought full of errors that the average fifth grader would have caught didn't make you at least go "hmm..."

Wouldn't any of this at least make you raise an eyebrow about this person's integrity and business acumen?

And let's not forget the one basic fact that no one can dispute. Heidi Diaz has had pictures taken of her by a PI, who has confirmed her identity. It is undeniable when held next to one another that "Kimmer's" before pic is definitely Heidi Diaz - no question. So if you believe that Kimmer and Heidi are not the same person, then why did Kimmer feel the need to use Heidi as her before pic?

SMP · 09-21-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jimzgrl

I don't understand this?? Why would you be paranoid?

Hmmm. Well, it's true I haven't ripped a lot of people off, put them in harm's way with a dangerous diet, nor even lied about almost every single detail of my life and supposed weight loss. (We're still on a weight loss forum, right? Sometime it's hard to remember that.

) However, when I first came on these boards, life was simpler, and I posted under my real name. I didn't believe in being anonymous. But since then, I have watched every single detail of Kimmer's life be put under the microscope, extending to her kids and her ex husbands as well. I certainly wouldn't want my ex-husband and kids' privacy invaded by curiousity seekers, vengeful ex-partners, nor even stalkers with nefarious motives. I've seen court records with VERY private info revealed - heck, in Canada, potential employers cannot even ask for your SIN (Social Insurance Number) or they get their knuckles rapped. It's true most of the info revealed is public information, making the target fair game, but ...it's rather horrifying the extent to which anybody can garner info through the Internet. Would you want all these details, including your home phone and address, collected together and published as your unauthorized biography? .... Me, neither. There are just too many kooks and crooks out there.

Bobbin · 09-21-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KajunDC

And let's not forget the one basic fact that no one can dispute. Heidi Diaz has had pictures taken of her by a PI, who has confirmed her identity. It is undeniable when held next to one another that "Kimmer's" before pic is definitely Heidi Diaz - no question. So if you believe that Kimmer and Heidi are not the same person, then why did Kimmer feel the need to use Heidi as her before pic?

AND she did this before "KIMKINS.COM" even existed!! Thats the clincher to me. She can deny it all she wants, but she admitted she was Heidi Kimberly Diaz HERSELF long before she created the website where she's the great and powerful scamming Oz!

marnaewilson · 09-21-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobbin

AND she did this before "KIMKINS.COM" even existed!! Thats the clincher to me. She can deny it all she wants, but she admitted she was Heidi Kimberly Diaz HERSELF long before she created the website where she's the great and powerful scamming Oz!

And you have to remember that BOTH the original before and after pictures of Heidi that were originally used on LCF were verified as actually her--they were just switched around so that her before picture was posted as her after picture. But they were both her. And the PI's picture clearly is the same woman as the LCF before picture. That tells me that Heidi is Kimmer.

marnaewilson · 09-21-2007, 10:14 AM

I didn't explain that originally Heidi did use actual pictures of herself. It was only later that she began using fake pictures and claiming they were her. Knowing that her pictures were real originally makes it clear that the PI's pictures are her, too. Does that make sense?

Sweeteater · 09-21-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mom2zeke

The biggest red flag for me with Kimmer was always the claim that she lost the weight so quickly and was able to maintain easily without any problems below the weight she wanted to be. I've never met a successful long-term weight loss maintainer either in person or online who would ever make such a claim. Maintenance is as hard or harder than weight loss, and if you're successful it lasts a whole lot longer. The lack of any maintenance plan or even any concern that maintenance might be a problem was a big tip off that something was not right in the kimpire.

and the fact that she didn't want to post any success pics

Lilgrnize · 09-21-2007, 10:15 AM

What would you ladies still supporting Hidey accept as evidence that she is a fraud? I'm really interested to know just what it would take.

jimzgrl · 09-21-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SMP

Hmmm. Well, it's true I haven't ripped a lot of people off, put them in harm's way with a dangerous diet, nor even lied about almost every single detail of my life and supposed weight loss. (We're still on a weight loss forum, right? Sometime it's hard to remember that.

) However, when I first came on these boards, life was simpler, and I posted under my real name. I didn't believe in being anonymous. But since then, I have watched every single detail of Kimmer's life be put under the microscope, extending to her kids and her ex husbands as well. I certainly wouldn't want my ex-husband and kids' privacy invaded by curiousity seekers, vengeful ex-partners, nor even stalkers with nefarious motives. I've seen court records with VERY private info revealed - heck, in Canada, potential employers cannot even ask for your SIN (Social Insurance Number) or they get their knuckles rapped. It's true most of the info revealed is public information, making the target fair game, but ...it's rather horrifying the extent to which anybody can garner info through the Internet. Would you want all these details, including your home phone and address, collected together and published as your unauthorized biography? .... Me, neither. There are just too many kooks and crooks out there.

Totally understand now!!

gibster · 09-21-2007, 10:16 AM

<----Thought I'd dress my ducky up in a red dress - doesn't she look slim?

DoritoFrito posted: "But - the criminal/IRS case(s) are likely to put her behind bars where she belongs - and will keep her from doing it again. Failing to pay taxes is a criminal offense."

Yep - just like Al Capone!

Jenna - love your Elvis Duck!

To everyone - I don't post here too often (but I've spent hours upon hours reading). KUTGW all you undercover duckies!

wifezilla · 09-21-2007, 10:24 AM

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Answers such as "I don't care if she's a fraud, I'm losing weight so na na nana boo boo." are not answers.

Answers such as "Who cares what kimmer did with the money we gave it to her to do with as she saw fit." Are bs.

Answers such as "You guys are haters." Are dumb.

Yes Missi this is exactly the problem we are having. Random people stopping by who don't care what harm the diet can do as long as they are losing weight, people who originally raised money for foster kids and now claiming "it was for whatever Kimmer wanted to do with it", and anyone who can't answer our long list of legitimate questions calling us haters and claiming we have no life.

Debate is one thing...drive by posting Kimmer cheerleaders is completely something else.

lowcarbink · 09-21-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SMP

Would you want all these details, including your home phone and address, collected together and published as your unauthorized biography? .... Me, neither. There are just too many kooks and crooks out there.

Nope, I sure wouldn't, but I also wouldn't lie and steal! Heidi IS the kook and crook! The people on these boards are not finding information on an innocent person.

I think the mole thing is just a distraction put out there by Heidi. She wants the attention off of her! Even if she was dumb enough to pay someone to read this PUBLIC board, who cares? Let's keep the focus on Heidi!

missis36 · 09-21-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wifezilla

Yes Missi this is exactly the problem we are having. Random people stopping by who don't care what harm the diet can do as long as they are losing weight, people who originally raised money for foster kids and now claiming "it was for whatever Kimmer wanted to do with it", and anyone who can't answer our long list of legitimate questions calling us haters and claiming we have no life.

Debate is one thing...drive by posting Kimmer cheerleaders is completely something else.

Very very true. Drive by posting, that was freaking funny. Sorry...made me giggle for a sec there hehehe

SMP · 09-21-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jimzgrl

Totally understand now!!

Thank you.

aloise · 09-21-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mom2zeke

Hi Lisa,
I just wanted to say that I agree you have a right to your opinion and also not to believe everything that others say. I believe that what happened with Kimmer is a result of people believing without questioning.

and you can see that over on the kimkins site. anyone that questions her is admonished, labeled as a troublemaker, and eventually kicked out.

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Originally Posted by mom2zeke

That being said, if you've been here since 2003 then you've seen Kimmer in action for many years. You can't tell me that there weren't doubts and/or red flags waving long ago.

I know when you think people have an agenda it's hard to believe what they have to say. I've looked at the credible evidence and testimony and it only confirms the suspicions I had long ago. Maybe my suspicions color my belief in the evidence. What I will say is that a paid, licensed, private detective has everything to lose by falsifying pictures and really nothing to gain.

Exactly. The PI has everything to lose.. and nothing to gain, by falsifying pictures. The detective has his name and agency information right on the slamboard site. If Kimmer/Heidi had any real complaints about the pictures being false.. she could have complained. Instead.. she is now asking her followers to believe that isn't Heidi.

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Originally Posted by mom2zeke

I may not be 100% sure about the foster kid situation (California is a huge state with lots of conflicting agencies and it wouldn't surprise me if Heidi was able to finagle a foster kid or two by working the system to her advantage). And testimony of ex's reflects old, failed relationships, so they are also subject to closer scrutiny. But the pictures are real, undeniable, evidence that Heidi is not who she claimed to be and once that is established, every other thing she said is now questionable.

and also proof that the story that Kimmer/Heidi has about her personal weight loss history on the home page of kimkins website is false advertising. A lie.

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Originally Posted by mom2zeke

The biggest red flag for me with Kimmer was always the claim that she lost the weight so quickly and was able to maintain easily without any problems below the weight she wanted to be. I've never met a successful long-term weight loss maintainer either in person or online who would ever make such a claim. Maintenance is as hard or harder than weight loss, and if you're successful it lasts a whole lot longer. The lack of any maintenance plan or even any concern that maintenance might be a problem was a big tip off that something was not right in the kimpire.

the biggest red flag for me was the fact that she says (one the home page of the kimkins website:

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It's called Kimkins and was developed by me, Kimmer, in 2000 when I weighed a morbidly obese 318 pounds! In less than a year I lost 198 pounds and kept it off!

so... supposedly, Kimmer has been able to maintain 120 lbs since 2001, for 6 years...

but the Kimkins program doesn't have a maintenance plan?

BBBBBBRRRRRRRIIIINNNNNGGGGG!!!!!! ALARM!!!! ALARM BELLS GOIN' OFF!!!!!

OhYeahBabe · 09-21-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jimzgrl

I don't understand this?? Why would you be paranoid?

Well, that's a good point since I have nothing to hide, but since my user name was my real name, and I've used it in unrelated forums, it seemed sensible to change it.

jlshields · 09-21-2007, 10:41 AM

[quote=lowcarbink;9242518]Nope, I sure wouldn't, but I also wouldn't lie and steal! Heidi IS the kook and crook! The people on these boards are not finding information on an innocent person.

I think the mole thing is just a distraction put out there by Heidi. She wants the attention off of her! Even if she was dumb enough to pay someone to read this PUBLIC board, who cares? Let's keep the focus on Heidi![/QUOTE]

Amen to that. I also believe the whole "mole" thing was set up to get us off topic. This is a public forum and I am sure that there are plenty of "kimkinites" who lurk here and provide information to the other site - just as there are people here who have access over there and report what they learn here. The difference is that there seems to be alot of stuff going on below the surface over there that regular kimkins members are not privy to.

CarolynF · 09-21-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercuryfan

Hi...I'm a lurker, but have been following this saga from the beginning. I know this is off topic, but could someone please post a link where I can find the picture of Heidi/Kimmer in WW magazine, the leopard print one? THANKS!!!!

I want to compare it to a picture of Heidi Collins from CNN.....I think there is an amazing resemblence.

I don't know how to link the WW mag pic..but this is a good one of Heidi Collins and it DOES look like the leopard skin lady in WW:

TVHeads.com Viewer

check it out..You can't copy that pic of Heidi Collins..I tried to..

Doodle_in_MA · 09-21-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by aloise

and you can see that over on the kimkins site. anyone that questions her is admonished, labeled as a troublemaker, and eventually kicked out.

Exactly. The PI has everything to lose.. and nothing to gain, by falsifying pictures. The detective has his name and agency information right on the slamboard site. If Kimmer/Heidi had any real complaints about the pictures being false.. she could have complained. Instead.. she is now asking her followers to believe that isn't Heidi.

and also proof that the story that Kimmer/Heidi has about her personal weight loss history on the home page of kimkins website is false advertising. A lie.

the biggest red flag for me was the fact that she says (one the home page of the kimkins website:

so... supposedly, Kimmer has been able to maintain 120 lbs since 2001, for 6 years...

but the Kimkins program doesn't have a maintenance plan?

BBBBBBRRRRRRRIIIINNNNNGGGGG!!!!!! ALARM!!!! ALARM BELLS GOIN' OFF!!!!!

Apparently the Tipster is working on the maintenance plan as we speak (type). She mentioned in a post today it includes cycling with Atkins...

missis36 · 09-21-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Doodle_in_MA

Apparently the Tipster is working on the maintenance plan as we speak (type). She mentioned in a post today it includes cycling with Atkins...

Tell me you are kidding? That this is a joke? And why for the love of all that is good and holy is Tippy working on this when it's KIMKINS...not TIPPYKINS? Man that is hilarious. This would obviously explain why she's been unavailable to answer questions about the plan.

amadeus4313 · 09-21-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolynF

I don't know how to link the WW mag pic..but this is a good one of Heidi Collins and it DOES look like the leopard skin lady in WW:

TVHeads.com Viewer

check it out..You can't copy that pic of Heidi Collins..I tried to..

I really don't think we should get side-tracked by the "leopard" pic. for one thing, th pic was a drawing and not a photograph. I get worried that we are going to get so far off track that this thread will be deleted. The PI photographs pretty much tell us all we need to know. Not trying to be snarky, just trying to protect the thread.

ryudragon · 09-21-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tiggerr

There is a PO box she uses.

Just thinking out loud....

I am so far back I'm never going to catch up!!

Mommy2Many · 09-21-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CarolynF

I don't know how to link the WW mag pic..but this is a good one of Heidi Collins and it DOES look like the leopard skin lady in WW:

09-21-2007, 10:41 AM	#3048
jlshields MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sierra Vista, AZ Posts: 1,424 Gallery: jlshields Stats: 225/154/145 WOE: Crack the Fat Loss Code Start Date: 7/21/08	[quote=lowcarbink;9242518]Nope, I sure wouldn't, but I also wouldn't lie and steal! Heidi IS the kook and crook! The people on these boards are not finding information on an innocent person. I think the mole thing is just a distraction put out there by Heidi. She wants the attention off of her! Even if she was dumb enough to pay someone to read this PUBLIC board, who cares? Let's keep the focus on Heidi![/QUOTE] Amen to that. I also believe the whole "mole" thing was set up to get us off topic. This is a public forum and I am sure that there are plenty of "kimkinites" who lurk here and provide information to the other site - just as there are people here who have access over there and report what they learn here. The difference is that there seems to be alot of stuff going on below the surface over there that regular kimkins members are not privy to. __________________ >:<Jeanne>:< EFGT Official Start 9/13/06 150.5 lbs 9/14/06 151.5 9/15/06 152 9/16/06 151.8 "How does one become a butterfly?...You must want to fly so much that you are willing to give up being a caterpillar."Trina Paulus "Courage is fear that has said its prayers."Dorothy Bernard

09-21-2007, 09:41 AM	#3031
Mercuryfan Senior LCF Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 124 Gallery: Mercuryfan Stats: 248/179.5/150ish WOE: Atkins Start Date: 09/15/03	Hi...I'm a lurker, but have been following this saga from the beginning. I know this is off topic, but could someone please post a link where I can find the picture of Heidi/Kimmer in WW magazine, the leopard print one? THANKS!!!! I want to compare it to a picture of Heidi Collins from CNN.....I think there is an amazing resemblence.

09-21-2007, 10:14 AM	#3037
marnaewilson Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Utah Posts: 109 Gallery: marnaewilson Stats: 163/133/123 WOE: Modified Atkins Start Date: Jan. 2000	I didn't explain that originally Heidi did use actual pictures of herself. It was only later that she began using fake pictures and claiming they were her. Knowing that her pictures were real originally makes it clear that the PI's pictures are her, too. Does that make sense?

09-21-2007, 10:15 AM	#3039
Lilgrnize Blabbermouth!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6,002 Gallery: Lilgrnize Start Date: 02/04	What would you ladies still supporting Hidey accept as evidence that she is a fraud? I'm really interested to know just what it would take.

09-21-2007, 10:16 AM	#3041
gibster Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago area Posts: 529 Gallery: gibster Stats: 268/221.6/155 WOE: Atkins 2002 Start Date: Aug 26	<----Thought I'd dress my ducky up in a red dress - doesn't she look slim? DoritoFrito posted: "But - the criminal/IRS case(s) are likely to put her behind bars where she belongs - and will keep her from doing it again. Failing to pay taxes is a criminal offense." Yep - just like Al Capone! Jenna - love your Elvis Duck! To everyone - I don't post here too often (but I've spent hours upon hours reading). KUTGW all you undercover duckies!