Why the fascination with Kimmer? - Page 409

Binsk · 09-13-2007, 06:26 AM

Tyna (Heidi's oldest son's ex girlfriend) contacted me while I was sleeping as well as Jeanessa. She wanted you to know that she does not want any links to her myspace posted here because she does not want to be harrassed, so if you posted that address please edit and delete it. She would like to help us out, because she wants to she Heidi brought to justice. If she can think of anything else, she will contact the original people with whom she has been messaging. She's a very nice lady and we should give her a break.

AllieCat0817 · 09-13-2007, 06:28 AM

There aren't any links here to Dennis Sharp's myspace. But people can easily look him up by name and find Tyna.....

Binsk · 09-13-2007, 06:34 AM

Thanks AllieCat. I wasn't sure where I had seen the link, if it was here or the other forum, but Tyna had seen the link and she was worried.

AllieCat0817 · 09-13-2007, 06:38 AM

Maybe it was but I am pretty sure admins deleted it

CarolinaRocker · 09-13-2007, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

This is the response I received when I requested a refund from Kimkins:

Hello,

I'm sorry but the Kimkins lifetime membership program is electronic media and non-refundable.

You've had access to the Kimkins program including the diet, diet variations, food lists, grocery lists, weight loss resource links, recipe files, community support forums and certified athletic trainer for months.

If you don't want to take advantage of the support and challenge groups, you'll still get outstanding results from the diet working on your own. You may wish to take the diet and food lists to your doctor for personalization.

Best regards,

Go figure.

Bella

what a crock

ixtapacheryl · 09-13-2007, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanessa

Yeppers

She e-mailed me while I was asleep. This is what Tyna had to say:

I just wanted to let you know that it is a very real possibility that Dennis and Brandon have no idea that their names are involved in this. Heidi will do this to her kids without any hestation because money comes first.

I'm sure they have no idea their names are public but working on her site - they have to have read the website and uncovered that she had lied about her weight, etc. They aren't blind and I would imagine if they are not involved they would certainly question her about how she has portrayed herself - wouldn't you think?

Binsk · 09-13-2007, 07:20 AM

I think that Brandon may be aware of what Heidi is doing because he posted to a friend that he was working for Kimkins doing computer work for $10. an hour. As for Dennis, how do we know that he was really the one that did the press release? Heidi could have just used his name. From what the PI said, only Brandon and Heidi lived in the apartment, so maybe Dennis is on the up and up and has a job and nothing to do with this.

KimPossible · 09-13-2007, 07:23 AM

Geez you guys...wait up! I go and do real life stuff for a bit and zooom---I am on page 401 but this reads like a novel, so....

I just have to say this, announce it, whatever. It may have been said but it is worth repeating if it has. I have held off saying this but by God, I am done treading lightly with my opinion on this:

If YOU are helping that woman maintain that site in any way, shape or form: admin, tech person, whatever, YOU ARE PERPETUATING A SCAM. You aren't helping the posters--you are helping KIMMER and the best thing you can do for the members is GET AWAY FROM KIMMER and take the members WITH YOU.

There are plenty of sites to take yourself, your help, the members to. Find one and DO IT.

How else can I say that?

Elloise · 09-13-2007, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I'm sure they have no idea their names are public but working on her site - they have to have read the website and uncovered that she had lied about her weight, etc. They aren't blind and I would imagine if they are not involved they would certainly question her about how she has portrayed herself - wouldn't you think?

Not necessarily. If they were raised in a home where scamming was normal, this might be the mother lode they had always watched her work for. They could actually be proud and behind her all the way.

Not that I want to incriminate them. They certainly could be innocent bystanders, but I just get this feeling that they're not. At least not Brandon since he seems to be living with her. And yet I feel sorry for him because he's only a little younger than my kids are and I know how my kids depend on me and DH for stability. He probably doesn't get much of that.

jeanessa · 09-13-2007, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elloise

Not necessarily. If they were raised in a home where scamming was normal, this might be the mother lode they had always watched her work for. They could actually be proud and behind her all the way.

Not that I want to incriminate them. They certainly could be innocent bystanders, but I just get this feeling that they're not. At least not Brandon since he seems to be living with her. And yet I feel sorry for him because he's only a little younger than my kids are and I know how my kids depend on me and DH for stability. He probably doesn't get much of that.

Some people also have a serious disconnect when it comes to the Internet. Since it's all "virtual", it doesn't fully connect with them that this is real life and that they are hurting people.

missis36 · 09-13-2007, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

This is the response I received when I requested a refund from Kimkins:

Hello,

I'm sorry but the Kimkins lifetime membership program is electronic media and non-refundable.

You've had access to the Kimkins program including the diet, diet variations, food lists, grocery lists, weight loss resource links, recipe files, community support forums and certified athletic trainer for months.

If you don't want to take advantage of the support and challenge groups, you'll still get outstanding results from the diet working on your own. You may wish to take the diet and food lists to your doctor for personalization.

Best regards,

Go figure.

Bella

Hey bella respond with this

Quote:

If you don't want to take advantage of the support and challenge groups, you'll still get outstanding results from the diet working on your own. You may wish to take the diet and food lists to your doctor for personalization.

Um Heidi it's not that I don't want to take advantage of the support YOU BANNED ME. Now I will ask again nicely, please return my money.

Cryssi · 09-13-2007, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binsk

Tyna (Heidi's oldest son's ex girlfriend) contacted me while I was sleeping as well as Jeanessa. She wanted you to know that she does not want any links to her myspace posted here because she does not want to be harrassed, so if you posted that address please edit and delete it. She would like to help us out, because she wants to she Heidi brought to justice. If she can think of anything else, she will contact the original people with whom she has been messaging. She's a very nice lady and we should give her a break.

I haven't seen the address here, but I have seen it on on of the blooging sites

jokath · 09-13-2007, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

This is the response I received when I requested a refund from Kimkins:

Hello,

I'm sorry but the Kimkins lifetime membership program is electronic media and non-refundable.

You've had access to the Kimkins program including the diet, diet variations, food lists, grocery lists, weight loss resource links, recipe files, community support forums and certified athletic trainer for months.

If you don't want to take advantage of the support and challenge groups, you'll still get outstanding results from the diet working on your own. You may wish to take the diet and food lists to your doctor for personalization.

Best regards,

Go figure.

Bella

This was exactly the response I received. I joined when it was 14.95 just to see what all the hype was about. Was only in the site a couple of time. Electronic media and non refundable is a bunch of crap.

jeanessa · 09-13-2007, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cryssi

I haven't seen the address here, but I have seen it on on of the blooging sites

I know. We respectfully ask that you leave Tyna alone. She's in contact with me, Missi and Leashy and that is enough.

If you have a question for her, ask one of us and we will contact her. She's being very helpful and we definitely should respect that.

Violaters, please know, it's not a good thing to get on my bad side

missis36 · 09-13-2007, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cryssi

I haven't seen the address here, but I have seen it on on of the blooging sites

That's reallly not smart. I went all over the other day asking people to stop using her name and link and ducky removed it as did a few others. But who the hell is doing this? If you are getting info over here that some of us worked pretty hard to get (you know she didn't have to talk to any of us) don't go posting it everywhere it will just end up messing things up. Sheesh.

This is also why I asked folks to stop contacting her unless you were already communicating with her. Someone coming in on the tail end of this and just deciding to email out of curiosity can mess it up as well. That stinks!

Yeah What Jeanessa said!!!

CarolynF · 09-13-2007, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimPossible

Geez you guys...wait up! I go and do real life stuff for a bit and zooom---I am on page 401 but this reads like a novel, so....

I just have to say this, announce it, whatever. It may have been said but it is worth repeating if it has. I have held off saying this but by God, I am done treading lightly with my opinion on this:

If YOU are helping that woman maintain that site in any way, shape or form: admin, tech person, whatever, YOU ARE PERPETUATING A SCAM. You aren't helping the posters--you are helping KIMMER and the best thing you can do for the members is GET AWAY FROM KIMMER and take the members WITH YOU.

There are plenty of sites to take yourself, your help, the members to. Find one and DO IT.

How else can I say that?

You have said it, girl..And, it is very similar to driving the "getaway" car in a bank robbery. You are still guilty for participating, even though you didn't
hold the gun on anyone..Get out!

GinaC · 09-13-2007, 07:57 AM

I posted this on another site but am posting it here for interested parties:

I got her IP Address (72.52.145.163) by doing a DNS Lookup on kimkins and then did a Reverse IP Lookup on the IP. According to the following information her web host is liquidweb.com. GoDaddy is just the registrar which is different from the host. The host is where the servers are physically located.

IP Address Contact Information

OrgName: Liquid Web, Inc.
OrgID: LQWB
Address: 4210 Creyts Rd.
City: Lansing
StateProv: MI
PostalCode: 48917
Country: US

ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.liquidweb.com:4321/

NetRange: 72.52.128.0 - 72.52.255.255
CIDR: 72.52.128.0/17
NetName: LIQUIDWEB-6
NetHandle: NET-72-52-128-0-1
Parent: NET-72-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS.LIQUIDWEB.COM
NameServer: NS1.LIQUIDWEB.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2006-08-03
Updated: 2007-03-26

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE551-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-800-580-4985
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse~liquidweb.com

OrgTechHandle: IPADM47-ARIN
OrgTechName: IP Administrator
OrgTechPhone: +1-800-580-4985
OrgTechEmail: ipadmin~liquidweb.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-09-12 19:50
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

ETA - Note the phone number for Abuse 1-800-580-4985

Binsk · 09-13-2007, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanessa

I know. We respectfully ask that you leave Tyna alone. She's in contact with me, Missi and Leashy and that is enough.

If you have a question for her, ask one of us and we will contact her. She's being very helpful and we definitely should respect that.

Violaters, please know, it's not a good thing to get on my bad side

Jeanessa, I definitely don't want to get on your bad side

just wanted you to know that I think I was the first to contact Tyna and I PM'd Missi to let her know. Tyna had already sent me one message before I posted the next one here. Just to let you know that I didn't contact her after you. We have exchanged a number of messages, and I think she really wants to help us.

missis36 · 09-13-2007, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binsk

Jeanessa, I definitely don't want to get on your bad side

just wanted you to know that I think I was the first to contact Tyna and I PM'd Missi to let her know. Tyna had already sent me one message before I posted the next one here. Just to let you know that I didn't contact her after you. We have exchanged a number of messages, and I think she really wants to help us.

There were 4 of us total it seems, who she began chatting with. She is a really nice woman caught up in an ugly mess. That's all we really wanted to convey, and Binsk is right she did contact her

However I win the prize for first contact FROM her hahah. Kidding.

ETA: How awesome is Gina??? THANK YOU GINA!!!

jeanessa · 09-13-2007, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binsk

Jeanessa, I definitely don't want to get on your bad side

just wanted you to know that I think I was the first to contact Tyna and I PM'd Missi to let her know. Tyna had already sent me one message before I posted the next one here. Just to let you know that I didn't contact her after you. We have exchanged a number of messages, and I think she really wants to help us.

I happily add you to the list:

Binsk, Leashy, Missi and Jeanessa

Locarb4me · 09-13-2007, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiggerr

Great, this is me.

It's me, too

I may have had some issues brewing before but Kimkins capped it for me. Now I can't lose weight on 1000-1300 cals a day at all. Even with exercise. And frankly I'm scared to drop calories. I'm opting for better medical tx with my thyroid meds and can only hope and pray that works.

jeanessa · 09-13-2007, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locarb4me

It's me, too

I may have had some issues brewing before but Kimkins capped it for me. Now I can't lose weight on 1000-1300 cals a day at all. Even with exercise. And frankly I'm scared to drop calories. I'm opting for better medical tx with my thyroid meds and can only hope and pray that works.

I'm sorry to hear this

These low calorie intakes scare me! I lose at least 2 pounds a week at 2500, with high or low carbs. I'm just under 250, so I guess that's part of it. But still, I can't imagine being that low in cals.

GinaC · 09-13-2007, 08:13 AM

Liquid Web is also the organization responsible for the Backups. This is where your Attorney would want to start in making sure that the existing info is secured.

Gina

Binsk · 09-13-2007, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanessa

I happily add you to the list:

Binsk, Leashy, Missi and Jeanessa

Thanks Jeanessa, just didn't want to ruffle any feathers

. Now can you please add me to the road trip group of ladies? I promise I will bring treats, maybe Carolyn's raspberry or apricot squares.

Locarb4me · 09-13-2007, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mimosa23

Well, I've been reading and reading this thread with growing amazement, shock and anger!

I cannot believe I got sucked into this whole Kimkins farce! I am embarrassed for sticking up for the plan, for Kimmer and my own distorted views on this whole thing! I want to apologise to anyone for doing so, and would like to tell you all a bit about my Kimkins journey and how it's affected me...

I first did Kimkins last year to drop a few quick pounds after I lost 60 pounds and rega

09-13-2007, 06:26 AM	#12241
Binsk Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 95 Gallery: Binsk Stats: Way too much/changing/there WOE: Low carbing - Bernstein/Atkins Start Date: Mar. /04	Tyna (Heidi's oldest son's ex girlfriend) contacted me while I was sleeping as well as Jeanessa. She wanted you to know that she does not want any links to her myspace posted here because she does not want to be harrassed, so if you posted that address please edit and delete it. She would like to help us out, because she wants to she Heidi brought to justice. If she can think of anything else, she will contact the original people with whom she has been messaging. She's a very nice lady and we should give her a break. __________________ Je me souviens - I remember Its meaning is different for everyone

09-13-2007, 07:23 AM	#12248
KimPossible Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arkansas--yes that is a state! :-) Posts: 458 Gallery: KimPossible Stats: 201.5/157.5/125 WOE: Atkins Start Date: August 2006	Geez you guys...wait up! I go and do real life stuff for a bit and zooom---I am on page 401 but this reads like a novel, so.... I just have to say this, announce it, whatever. It may have been said but it is worth repeating if it has. I have held off saying this but by God, I am done treading lightly with my opinion on this: If YOU are helping that woman maintain that site in any way, shape or form: admin, tech person, whatever, YOU ARE PERPETUATING A SCAM. You aren't helping the posters--you are helping KIMMER and the best thing you can do for the members is GET AWAY FROM KIMMER and take the members WITH YOU. There are plenty of sites to take yourself, your help, the members to. Find one and DO IT. How else can I say that? __________________ I want to be a nutritionalist just like Tippy.

09-13-2007, 07:57 AM	#12257
GinaC Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 216 Gallery: GinaC Stats: 215/172/130 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: May 2007	Kimmers Web Host Info I posted this on another site but am posting it here for interested parties: I got her IP Address (72.52.145.163) by doing a DNS Lookup on kimkins and then did a Reverse IP Lookup on the IP. According to the following information her web host is liquidweb.com. GoDaddy is just the registrar which is different from the host. The host is where the servers are physically located. IP Address Contact Information OrgName: Liquid Web, Inc. OrgID: LQWB Address: 4210 Creyts Rd. City: Lansing StateProv: MI PostalCode: 48917 Country: US ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.liquidweb.com:4321/ NetRange: 72.52.128.0 - 72.52.255.255 CIDR: 72.52.128.0/17 NetName: LIQUIDWEB-6 NetHandle: NET-72-52-128-0-1 Parent: NET-72-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS.LIQUIDWEB.COM NameServer: NS1.LIQUIDWEB.COM Comment: RegDate: 2006-08-03 Updated: 2007-03-26 OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE551-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Abuse OrgAbusePhone: +1-800-580-4985 OrgAbuseEmail: abuse~liquidweb.com OrgTechHandle: IPADM47-ARIN OrgTechName: IP Administrator OrgTechPhone: +1-800-580-4985 OrgTechEmail: ipadmin~liquidweb.com # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-09-12 19:50 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. ETA - Note the phone number for Abuse 1-800-580-4985

09-13-2007, 08:13 AM	#12263
GinaC Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 216 Gallery: GinaC Stats: 215/172/130 WOE: Atkins 72 Start Date: May 2007	For Janessa ET AL Liquid Web is also the organization responsible for the Backups. This is where your Attorney would want to start in making sure that the existing info is secured. Gina

09-13-2007, 06:28 AM	#12242
AllieCat0817 Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Southeastern Coastal SC Posts: 11,422 Gallery: AllieCat0817 Stats: 213.5/137/140 WOE: Atkins Maintenance Start Date: 5/23/03	There aren't any links here to Dennis Sharp's myspace. But people can easily look him up by name and find Tyna.....

09-13-2007, 06:34 AM	#12243
Binsk Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 95 Gallery: Binsk Stats: Way too much/changing/there WOE: Low carbing - Bernstein/Atkins Start Date: Mar. /04	Thanks AllieCat. I wasn't sure where I had seen the link, if it was here or the other forum, but Tyna had seen the link and she was worried.

09-13-2007, 06:38 AM	#12244
AllieCat0817 Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Southeastern Coastal SC Posts: 11,422 Gallery: AllieCat0817 Stats: 213.5/137/140 WOE: Atkins Maintenance Start Date: 5/23/03	Maybe it was but I am pretty sure admins deleted it

09-13-2007, 07:20 AM	#12247
Binsk Senior LCF Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 95 Gallery: Binsk Stats: Way too much/changing/there WOE: Low carbing - Bernstein/Atkins Start Date: Mar. /04	I think that Brandon may be aware of what Heidi is doing because he posted to a friend that he was working for Kimkins doing computer work for $10. an hour. As for Dennis, how do we know that he was really the one that did the press release? Heidi could have just used his name. From what the PI said, only Brandon and Heidi lived in the apartment, so maybe Dennis is on the up and up and has a job and nothing to do with this.