Why the fascination with Kimmer?

[MacNut]

Paypal now pays dividend interest per their money market fund on any balances left in a Paypal account. It pays a little over 5% a year and the dividends are payable monthly. This means that there is reporting that they will do to the I.R.S.

If Kimmer or Brandon has $1 million in a Paypal account, then there will be monthly dividend trails, reported to the I.R.S., leading to that balance.

[MacNut]

Originally Posted by SMP

Theoretically, and in fact, Catherine's liability is zero. Unless , of course, she was psychic and saw the future.

From her husbands account of what went down, it seems to me that there were enough clues about Heidi's behavior being dishonest before she got out of the game. I bet she could be liable for her part in this. I wonder if this is why she and her husband are fighting so hard to expose it, so that they can distance themselves from the early part of it.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by MacNut

From her husbands account of what went down, it seems to me that there were enough clues about Heidi's behavior being dishonest before she got out of the game. I bet she could be liable for her part in this. I wonder if this is why she and her husband are fighting so hard to expose it, so that they can distance themselves from the early part of it.

OR is there any liability on her part for not alerting the authorities? In fairness to her --- a lot of what we have uncovered was after the buyout so how could Catherine even know? I figured she smelled that something wasn't right in Denmark - but didn't know the extent until after the buyout.

I truly feel that she was pretty much a victim as we are.

[flowerpower]

I started a new thread, in hopes of helping some people, but I figure the post might help some here, too. So, here's what I said:

For anyone struggling to move forward with their weightloss, this might just help you get going, past the kimkins fraud, past starvation, hopefully on to your new plan for the new you!

Many years ago, a few of us seasoned lowcarbers came up with a very clean weightloss plan, to bust through stalls, or to help find out what hinders our weight loss. We called it KISS. That is, our lowcarb form of KISS.

I put together the guidelines in a website many years ago. I was pleasantly surprised to see that page is still available. It's way before web editing was mainstream, so forgive the crude nature of the site, but it has the appropriate information.

KISS - The Lowcarb Way - Guidelines

Take care and let me know if I can be of any assistance. I've lost and gained this weight way too many times, now, but one thing I know for sure - I always feel best when doing a clean version of lowcarb.

[AllisonB]

Originally Posted by MacNut

Paypal now pays dividend interest per their money market fund on any balances left in a Paypal account. It pays a little over 5% a year and the dividends are payable monthly. This means that there is reporting that they will do to the I.R.S.

If Kimmer or Brandon has $1 million in a Paypal account, then there will be monthly dividend trails, reported to the I.R.S., leading to that balance.

I believe you have to opt-in to the money market account, it's not automatic.

[MorganMacLeoid]

blog entry

Want to Stop Heidi from Getting Away With This?



The money is sitting in PayPal.

File a complaint and dispute now.

Only when the account is flagged because of unusual level of dissatisfied customers will the account be frozen.

Heidi will not be able to take the money if the PayPal account is frozen for investigation.

PayPal doesn’t play games.

They shut you down.

They shut off your funds.

You sit.

You wait.

But you can’t have any of your money until the investigation is over.

Go now!

Log into your PayPal account and click on “Resolution Center”. From there, click on “Report a Problem” and enter in all of the information from your transaction.

www.paypal.com

If you paid more than 45 days ago, call 1-402-935-2050 or email by going to the bottom of the page, click About Us, click Contact Us, click Customer Support Inquires, click through online form to complete!

Go.

Do it.

Now!

[scotty89]

If paypal wont do anything contact your credit card company who most likely will.

[Cutie]

definitely some urgency noted there...

need to get the money frozen before she gets it all moved out.

[BellaHMB]

Ok, I give! I just submitted this to the Kimkins site as I tried Paypal
resolution and they wouldnt accept it!

********************************
I am respectively requesting a refund of my $39.95 membership fee.

This is based on fraudulent representation on the Kimkins site of photographs re: weight loss including of Heidi Diaz aka Kimmer herself.

Please refund to my paypal account effective immediately.

Thankyou,
Victoria
*********************************

I have read all these posts and finally decided this is the right thing to do
whether or not I get my refund.

Bella
aka Victoria

[Cutie]

bella, if you can't do the paypal resolution form because it's been more than 45 days, you can register a complaint via email and have negative feedback noted for her account.

[MacNut]

I thought Paypal only froze disputed funds or reversed on ebay related transactions only.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by MacNut

From her husbands account of what went down, it seems to me that there were enough clues about Heidi's behavior being dishonest before she got out of the game. I bet she could be liable for her part in this. I wonder if this is why she and her husband are fighting so hard to expose it, so that they can distance themselves from the early part of it.

I mistrusted Catherine's role right from the beginning, and her hubby's abrupt termination of their "business dealings exposed" left a nasty taste in my mouth. Nevertheless, unless Catherine had somehow verified that Heidi was an obese con woman selling dangerous diets under false pretenses - and we saw how difficult that was to prove in the beginning - then I think Catherine is in the clear. She may, however, be left trailing a certain amount of smelly odor.

[controlledcarb]

Originally Posted by MacNut

I thought Paypal only froze disputed funds or reversed on ebay related transactions only.

PayPal has buyer protection policies for up to 45 days post sale....simple online form to fill out; after that time you have to call PayPal and talk to someone live - explain the situation so that even if they say "no can do, sorry" you can then state you want a negative complaint placed in her file/account in case others are dissatisfied too, so PayPal has a record of your dissatisfaction!

That's the point - whether you get your money back from PayPal, nice yeah, but only when enough people complain about her to paypal will they freeze her account for investigation. No money in; No money out.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by mama MIA

This is odd, at Kimkins, a poster posted a link to LCF. I was in an aswer to a stall question. The link goes to the refeed thread here in this forum.

Actually, it's not odd. There are active Kimkins members who also post here and have long on-going threads. At least The Divine Miss M has been a big proponent of refeeds and seems to know an awful lot about Lyle McDonald's WOE and seems to be doing well with it. She is a current and active Kimkins member.

Also Pretty Paula is currently looking into refeeds and other variations of Low Carb eating.

[gibster]

Originally Posted by DoritoFrito

I've worked for an eBay PowerSeller for several years. We take in about $30-50K a month just with PayPal, and to my knowledge, PayPal doesn't send us any tax forms. We keep track of it all ourselves and cut the IRS a check every 3 months, just like a brick-and-mortar store.

Exactly - Paypal is basically a bank account and only has to issue 1099's for interest - just like any other bank.

All of you - I've been reading this thread forever! Thanks to all of you for all your sleuthing. I love a good scandel! BTW, I've dealt with people like Kimmer. They really think they are so above everyone and believe their own lies. I once had an acquaintance look me in the eye and tell me that old story about the kidnapped child in Walmart who was found in the bathroom with her hair half cut off and boys clothing on. You know that old urban legend. She actually tried to pawn that one off as true. Yikes!

Rock on!

[jeanessa]

Originally Posted by MacNut

I thought Paypal only froze disputed funds or reversed on ebay related transactions only.

No, PayPal will freeze funds for any electronic transactions processed through PayPal whether they are eBay related or not.

[MacNut]

Originally Posted by SMP

I mistrusted Catherine's role right from the beginning, and her hubby's abrupt termination of their "business dealings exposed" left a nasty taste in my mouth. Nevertheless, unless Catherine had somehow verified that Heidi was an obese con woman selling dangerous diets under false pretenses - and we saw how difficult that was to prove in the beginning - then I think Catherine is in the clear. She may, however, be left trailing a certain amount of smelly odor.

It still seems to me as the business partner, she would be liable for the losses of those who signed up while she was still a partner. She was an owner of the site and the site promised something that it ultimately did not deliver. I am not saying this means she was wrong just financially responsible.

[BellaHMB]

Originally Posted by Cutie

bella, if you can't do the paypal resolution form because it's been more than 45 days, you can register a complaint via email and have negative feedback noted for her account.

Will do Cutie!

I imagine my kimkins account will be deleted in short order....at least some of the maintainers from there are now here, so we can continue with mutual support.

Bella

[MacNut]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

No, PayPal will freeze funds for any electronic transactions processed through PayPal whether they are eBay related or not.

I just read a disclosure on disputed funds and it said the dispute has to be over $100.00 for them to freeze ebay disputed funds. Do you know if they will freeze non ebay purchases that are less than $100.00?

Has anyone had them say they were freezing the $60.00 you paid to Heidi?

[MacNut]

Originally Posted by controlledcarb

PayPal has buyer protection policies for up to 45 days post sale....simple online form to fill out; after that time you have to call PayPal and talk to someone live - explain the situation so that even if they say "no can do, sorry" you can then state you want a negative complaint placed in her file/account in case others are dissatisfied too, so PayPal has a record of your dissatisfaction!

That's the point - whether you get your money back from PayPal, nice yeah, but only when enough people complain about her to paypal will they freeze her account for investigation. No money in; No money out.

Thanks.

[Locarb4me]

Originally Posted by MacNut

Paypal now pays dividend interest per their money market fund on any balances left in a Paypal account. It pays a little over 5% a year and the dividends are payable monthly. This means that there is reporting that they will do to the I.R.S.

If Kimmer or Brandon has $1 million in a Paypal account, then there will be monthly dividend trails, reported to the I.R.S., leading to that balance.

I believe that's only if you sign up and deposit your funds over in the money market side of it. I have a rather large Paypal account (Ebay powerseller) and I have never taken them up on it. I certainly do NOT just earn 5%Annual interest on the money sitting there in my account.

I just move my $$ periodically into my checking account. AFAIK, the IRS has no idea how much $$ I have in PP til I do my tax return.

[Cutie]

Originally Posted by BellaHMB

Will do Cutie!

I imagine my kimkins account will be deleted in short order....at least some of the maintainers from there are now here, so we can continue with mutual support.

Bella

genuine support is what it's all about!

[jeanessa]

Originally Posted by MacNut

I just read a disclosure on disputed funds and it said the dispute has to be over $100.00 for them to freeze ebay disputed funds. Do you know if they will freeze non ebay purchases that are less than $100.00?

Has anyone had them say they were freezing the $60.00 you paid to Heidi?

From my own experience with PayPal, they can and will freeze your funds, at any amount, especially if they suspect that something isn't right. I simply sent a my best friend $25 as a gift through PayPal, it was flagged for some reason on her end and frozen on both our ends for 32 days. So, take of that what you will.

[shelby7851]

Originally Posted by MacNut

I just read a disclosure on disputed funds and it said the dispute has to be over $100.00 for them to freeze ebay disputed funds. Do you know if they will freeze non ebay purchases that are less than $100.00?

Has anyone had them say they were freezing the $60.00 you paid to Heidi?

I had a dispute with an ebayer, and did the paypal resolution, and it was for like 30$, and the lady emailed me all mad because her account as frozen! so they will freeze it for less than $100

[jeanessa]

Originally Posted by MacNut

It still seems to me as the business partner, she would be liable for the losses of those who signed up while she was still a partner. She was an owner of the site and the site promised something that it ultimately did not deliver. I am not saying this means she was wrong just financially responsible.

I'm sure the buyout agreement that they signed detailed liability. Being that this fraud was perpetuated by Heidi, if Catherine did find herself in a situation where she was held liable for any funds, I am certain that she could wager a lawsuit against Kimkins/Heidi herself to cover any debt owed and her own legal expenses.

[MacNut]

I got my ebay and fund freezing on Paypal $100.00 amount here:

eBay Wiki (Beta) - PayPal dispute/claim information for buyers

[MacNut]

Originally Posted by jeanessa

I'm sure the buyout agreement that they signed detailed liability. Being that this fraud was