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Old 09-12-2007, 01:59 PM   #12061
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As far as a court document having her weight listed, they take that info off her DL I sure. I done know about you but since Ive had an extension on my DL my weight is atleast a few years off and I never put my "real" weight on there to begin with LOL
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:01 PM   #12062
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also Kimmer from ask kimmer thread:

"I got my HMO to pay because I had lost nearly 200 pounds and demonstrated what the medical need was. I also mentioned they had performed identical surgery on a TV plastic surgery show so I didn't want to hear that it "wasn't covered"

Which BTW getting insurance to pay for removal of excess skin (her tummy tuck) is near impossible unless you've had Gastric bypass, and even then it's hard to get approved. I hang around a bunch of people who have lost it the natural way and had skin issues and not one got insurance approved no matter how bad infections/skin rashes were.
Yeah let me break this down for you even more ok....she had no job, she was collecting ssi, what does that mean? If this in fact true she had YOU pay for her surgery, because it would have been on a state issued medical card. Hence you paid for it. But.....from the pi picks I find it VERY hard to believe that she's had a tummy tuck at any time in her life. That's just my opinion though.

Yes I did contact inside edition. About a week ago.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:02 PM   #12063
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I remember mentioned here that she first said it was done on her b-day and an other time she said at her anniversary.
If you don't lie, you don't have trouble keeping up with your stories. She should have written 'em down, so that so many people wouldn't be investigating the tangled web she has weaved.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:03 PM   #12064
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As far as a court document having her weight listed, they take that info off her DL I sure. I done know about you but since Ive had an extension on my DL my weight is atleast a few years off and I never put my "real" weight on there to begin with LOL
Yep. Mine has said 200lbs for YEARS. I was about 285ish before I got pregnant, and have been for a good 2 years.
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Yep. Mine has said 200lbs for YEARS. I was about 285ish before I got pregnant, and have been for a good 2 years.
Mine still says 230... and has been for like 12 years+

Hey and it's getting closer to true now!
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:07 PM   #12066
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Tom: Can you tell us why you changed the name of Kimkins threads to Kimmer threads?

Inquiring minds want to know?
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:12 PM   #12067
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A Message to Kimkins/Heidi Diaz Investigators

September 12th, 2007 I’ve mentioned a few times that Catherine has complete backups of data from the time of her association with Kimkins and Heidi Diaz, April 2006 to September 2006. These records include:
  • PayPal transactions for all Kimkins.com member signups prior to October 1, 2006. The records contain information including amounts paid by members, member names, email addresses, and some postal addresses.
  • PayPal transactions for site expenses including affiliate payouts.
  • PayPal transactions for profit share payments made to Heidi Diaz.
  • Kimkins.com website files and scripts and database backups. This includes the Kimkins.com forum, private messages, and chat logs for the period in question. Specifically, the records contain information about fundraising solicitations that were made on behalf of foster children Heidi Diaz claimed to have in her care.
Catherine is prepared to provide copies of these records to all attorneys or official investigators involved in pending investigations and civil actions. Please contact me through the comments of this post if you would like to receive this information.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:17 PM   #12068
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Tom: Can you tell us why you changed the name of Kimkins threads to Kimmer threads?

Inquiring minds want to know?
Hmmm~ I have several thoughts running through my head~ maybe it's just the simplest one~ doesn't give 'Kimkins' recognition as a WOE?

Would really like to know the real reason though~
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:18 PM   #12069
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The PI, Robert Charlton, is a Corona private investigator we found in a PI directory. He was happy to help expose an obvious scammer. After we published the pictures, we found out that Mr. Charlton’s wife is a friend of a Kimkins member. With 40,000 Kimkins members, it’s a small world. We’re expecting a package with surveillance video from the same day, so stay tuned. Mr. Charlton has also consented to an email interview — leave your questions for him in the comments, please.
40,000 members * $60/member = $2,400,000

I realize some of the memberships were less.. but I bet the majority were $60.

even if half the memberships were $15, then that would be (20,000*15) + (20,000*60) = $1,500,000 - and I bet the number of $15 memberships are less.

so.. I bet her income was between $1,500,000 and $2,400,000

not a bad income for one year...

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Old 09-12-2007, 02:18 PM   #12070
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ummmm.....this is a Kimmer line

Kimmer used to say this ALL OF THE TIME!!
That was my impression, too, right from the first post. The spelling is too uneven - either you're a really bad speller and always use two L's incorrectly, or you're not. It struck me as someone trying to spell incorrectly on purpose. (Does that make sense to anyone?)
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:25 PM   #12071
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Tom: Can you tell us why you changed the name of Kimkins threads to Kimmer threads?

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The forum was moved from the main "Weight Loss Plans" into a subforum and the name was changed from "Kimkins" to "Kimmer Threads" to remove any implied endorsement of Kimkins as a recommended weight loss plan.

There is no plan to delete all the kimmer/kimkins related threads however.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:27 PM   #12072
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The forum was moved from the main "Weight Loss Plans" into a subforum and the name was changed from "Kimkins" to "Kimmer Threads" to remove any implied endorsement of Kimkins as a recommended weight loss plan.

There is no plan to delete all the kimmer/kimkins related threads however.
That's awesome! Thanks Tom!
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That was my impression, too, right from the first post. The spelling is too uneven - either you're a really bad speller and always use two L's incorrectly, or you're not. It struck me as someone trying to spell incorrectly on purpose. (Does that make sense to anyone?)
That was my impression too. Go back and look at all of her posts, and see if you don't see a pattern. First the long diatribe of weight loss history, then kind of asking about different things and then some giving of advice. I would not be surprised one bit if that whole character was set up last year in order to establish a whole new persona if the kimkins thing went south.
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:29 PM   #12074
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:43 PM   #12075
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Sometimes I think the best punishment for Heidi would be refunding us, shutting down her website and then having to tell us the TRUTH....so we could quit all this speculation. There is so much that we are never going to know...as in WHY?
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:47 PM   #12076
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That was my impression too. Go back and look at all of her posts, and see if you don't see a pattern. First the long diatribe of weight loss history, then kind of asking about different things and then some giving of advice. I would not be surprised one bit if that whole character was set up last year in order to establish a whole new persona if the kimkins thing went south.

Wait. What are ya'll referencing? I can't keep up.

Also, a couple of randome thoughts:

1: that woman in the PI photo's doesn't look like she's ever had a tummy tuck. I know someone who had bypass, a tummy tuck, and regained. She never regained that hanging split apron thing -- she just got big and round like a weeble toy.

2: The woman in the PI photo actually looks younger than the woman with the big poufy black hairdo in the "official" b4 photos. PI photo woman's skin looks much younger to me. Maybe the b4 photos are of someone else. A relative?

3: PI photo woman does not look like she's wearing a wig to me. Just thin, badly styled hair. Has anyone else ever seen a wig that looks like that?
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:48 PM   #12077
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There is so much that we are never going to know...as in WHY?
So man reasons, so little time: Greed, arrogance, manipulation, psychosis, etc. Could anywone believe her, even if she swore she was telling the truth?
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40,000 members * $60/member = $2,400,000

I realize some of the memberships were less.. but I bet the majority were $60.

even if half the memberships were $15, then that would be (20,000*15) + (20,000*60) = $1,500,000 - and I bet the number of $15 memberships are less.

so.. I bet her income was between $1,500,000 and $2,400,000

not a bad income for one year...
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Sometimes I think the best punishment for Heidi would be refunding us, shutting down her website and then having to tell us the TRUTH....so we could quit all this speculation. There is so much that we are never going to know...as in WHY?
and with the above figures... everyone wants to know why she didn't at least refund JEANESSA's membership!!! small price to pay to keep Jeanessa from trackin' ya down!
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:53 PM   #12079
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There are a lot of assumptions being made based on the photos. Everything is open to opinion and speculation, but none of it proves anything besides the fact that Heidi Diaz is morbidly obese.

For example, when I weighed 175 pounds at 21, no one ever carded me for anything. I looked over 21. Now that I am bigger, I am carded every, single time and I am 29. I look older thinner and younger when my cheeks round out...go figure
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Mine still says 230... and has been for like 12 years+

Hey and it's getting closer to true now!

LOL even when I weighed 248lbs my DL still said 154. Now that I have a different License, I can't weight until someone says "Hey this doesn't look like you"

...to keep on topic... the halls are echoing at K - site.

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Old 09-12-2007, 03:10 PM   #12081
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some interesting info from Online Nutritional Information and Nutritional Facts - Second Opinions, UK, anyone still think its safe? i know i dont.

All carbs are made up of just three elements: carbon, hydrogen and. oxygen. All fats are also made of the same three elements. Proteins, however, also contain nitrogen and other elements. When proteins are used to provide energy, these must be got rid of in some way. This is not only wasteful, it can put a strain on the body, particularly on the liver and kidneys.

Excess intake of nitrogen leads in a short space of time to hyperammonaemia, which is a build up of ammonia in the bloodstream. This is toxic to the brain. Many human cultures survive on a purely animal product diet, but only if it is high in fat.[xii] [xiii] A lean meat diet, on the other hand cannot be tolerated; it leads to nausea in as little as three days, symptoms of starvation and ketosis in a week to ten days, severe debilitation in twelve days and possibly death in just a few weeks. A high-fat diet, however, is completely healthy for a lifetime.
Perhaps one of the best documented studies is that of the Arctic explorer, Vilhjalmur Stefansson and a colleague.[xiv] They ate an animal meat diet for more than a year to see whether such a diet could be healthy. Everything was fine until they were asked to eat only lean meat. Dr McClelland, the lead scientist, wrote:
'At our request he began eating lean meat only, although he had previously noted, in the North, that very lean meat sometimes produced digestive disturbances. On the third day nausea and diarrhea developed. When fat meat was added to the diet, a full recovery was made in two days.'
This was a clinical study, but Stefansson had already lived for nearly twenty years on an all-meat diet with the Canadian Inuit. He and his team suffered no ill effects whatsoever.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:21 PM   #12082
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I got this from the linkedin website
Heidi Diaz

Owner, Kimkins

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Old 09-12-2007, 03:22 PM   #12083
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it also has a kimberly drake, that is a attorney in california..... thats interesting.... didn't she say she went to law school
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Ok I guess no one did. So I'm sending this to Inside Edition's Investigators:

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Ever hear of Kimkins? It's a diet that was featured on Women's World magazine (was also mentioned in People) and has developed a large following. []Kimkins - Home[/url] The founder, "Kimmer," developed the diet after losing 198 lbs in 11 months. It's suspected that she has made over 2 million dollars selling this diet online which consists of extremely low carbohydrates and dangerously low calories.

In the past couple of months, some disturbing information has been uncovered regarding "Kimmer" (real name Heidi K. Diaz). This information includes Private Investigator pictures showing a morbidly obese Heidi (instead of the 118 lbs she claims to be), foster child scams (Heidi has accepted donations for foster children that she does not have), fake after photos on her site, possible weight loss surgery, false claims of celebrities following the diet (including Jessica Alba), and more.

This story has been playing out online for a couple months, but things are really coming to a head now. I think it is just the kind of scam Inside Edition would be interested in.

More info here:

(I linked some of the blogs)

I hope you'll look into it.
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Kimberly Marlow Drake is an attorney in Oakland, CA according to the state bar web page. It doesn't look like this is the same Heidi Kimberly Drake Diaz.

State Bar of CA :: Kimberly M. Drake

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Old 09-12-2007, 03:28 PM   #12086
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its just strange to find these names that she used for her on are real people..... no telling what names she has been using elsewhere..
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