Why the fascination with Kimmer?

[HBGal]

Originally Posted by SkeeterN

I have no problem with legitimate plans but do have problems with plans that could make someone sick.

Isn't this what so many people have said about Atkins?

[Deb294evr]

Originally Posted by Sweeteater

I seem to remember some discrepancy in her Fitday journals.

Kimmer often said she used her fitday to figure out items for other posters. Those VERY high days and the days of 200 calories , or single items, were merely to find something for someone else.

[emily1965]

Originally Posted by Violet Skye

Buzzed yet nauseous (SNATT)?? GAAAAAKKKKKKK!!!!!! It almost sounds like starvation-induced euphoria, such as that seen in cults. I am simply not prepared to go to those extremes, and as Tooter said, this resembles eating-disordered behaviour.

I'll be honest - I would looooove to lose a pound a day by September and show up at an upcoming family function looking like Drew Barrymore instead of Ina Garten. I could probably shed that amount of weight on Kimkins in two months. But I'm honestly afraid that instead of being "drop-dead gorgeous", I'd simply drop dead. So I'll take the Low Glycemic Load Road, which is more scenic (all those fruits and veggies!) and if nobody sings Kumbaya, or I don't get to sing "Don't You Wish Your Girlfriend Was Hot Like Me" in two months' time, I'll live with it. For many long years, G-d willing.

Actually, she did talk about (and celebrate) the euphoria, then "clarity" that came with long term fasting. The descriptions of this "clarity" reminded me of people describing the "clarity" they felt when on drugs (much like Native American's Clarity when smoking peyote), which were actually hallucinations.

[HBGal]

Well, I've been doing Kimkins for a month and have only felt SNATTY for about 3 days in the very beginning, much like the Induction Flu so many people complain of. It's not a constant feeling for anyone I know that does this plan.

[SkeeterN]

Originally Posted by HBGal

Isn't this what so many people have said about Atkins?

Those who have never read the book and those who listen to people whose brother's, friend's, aunt' cousin who got who had problems with Atkins. Yet have never read the book and realized this "Doctor" knows medically what works and what doesn't. Kimmer has NO medical background and I question anyone's validity if their photo's look so different.

[Nady]

Originally Posted by emily1965

Actually, she did talk about (and celebrate) the euphoria, then "clarity" that came with long term fasting. The descriptions of this "clarity" reminded me of people describing the "clarity" they felt when on drugs, which were actually hallucinations. Much like Native American's Clarity when smoking peyote.

That's somewhat unfair~ unless you've fasted, you really can't understand how different the body functions when the energy isn't tied up with the business of digestion. And many people report the same sense of well being when doing ultra low carb~ part of it is a ketone thing.
~~~N

[Cryssi]

Originally Posted by SkeeterN

Those who have never read the book and those who listen to people whose brother's, friend's, aunt' cousin who got who had problems with Atkins. Yet have never read the book and realized this "Doctor" knows medically what works and what doesn't. Kimmer has NO medical background and I question anyone's validity if their photo's look so different.

[Heather150]

Originally Posted by sosumi

For the record, I lost 100 lbs in 1 year following Kimkins. 9/30/05 - 9/30/06. Today, 9 months later, I weigh 175. I have been in maintenance for the last 9 months. I have been taking a break from active weight loss due to personal reasons.

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Well I will be the first one to say Great job, and it's a pleasure to meet you. You are the only one I've 'met' so far who can claim what you have. I have read other threads pertaining to Kimmer doers and Maintainers, and so far, no one has been able to stay on track very long, and not many, if none at all have come in to say they are a success, they've been at it such and such a time and are STILL on that plan, not going to another plan for more food, calories and maintenance.


As for those who claim people are putting Kimmer's plan down like those who put Atkins down. Oh no no no....that is apples to oranges my friends. At least with Atkins, South Beach etc...trials were done, testamonials were made, research had been published oh and yea...they were DOCTORS!!!!! Not some entity on a message board. Until I hear she graduated with a doctors degree , why should I take what she says as gospel? Especially when there is doubt as to who she is, what she looks like and what her before and afters look like. When she appears in People magazine as is...not woman's World, where every crash diet has been published every week for YEARS (always with a gorgeous layer cake somewhere close on the cover-that kills me).

I lost 87 pounds. I am the smallest I've ever been in my entire life...but you can still tell it's me. My nose didn't change, which is what I'm basing my dispute on. On three of the pictures, the nose is different in each one. She never claimed to get surgery on her face, just her body.

Why not come out and say ok..here I am. She won't do that, she never would, never will. Until then, she just doesn't get my vote. I'm not attacking...I just won't believe anything she has to offer. Proof is in the low carb pudding!

[lalabella]

Originally Posted by HBGal

Well, I've been doing Kimkins for a month and have only felt SNATTY for about 3 days in the very beginning, much like the Induction Flu so many people complain of. It's not a constant feeling for anyone I know that does this plan.

so you wont be buying a SNATT t-shirt from her site? How bout a SNATT mouse pad...

I can't imagine wearing the shirt, having someone ask me about it and me saying "oh! SNATT stands for Semi-Nauseous All The Time! It's GREAT!"

[HBGal]

Originally Posted by Cryssi

I wonder with all this hype if B&A pics don't mysteriously surface...of a relative or someone she claims is her, in order to protect her business KWIM?

Oh good grief. Now this is getting ridiculous.

[HBGal]

No way, LOL. I thought that was a bit bizarre myself. No thanks.

[lalabella]

Originally Posted by HBGal

No way, LOL. I thought that was a bit bizarre myself. No thanks.

[Cryssi]

Originally Posted by HBGal

Oh good grief. Now this is getting ridiculous.

Just saying it wouldn't surprise me. IF we are all right (I know we haven't proven it YET) and she is lying, then she is going to have to kep lying to cover up her orignial lies...Oh what a tangled web we weave....

[Lynda99]

I remember that. Fitday was just to do the math.

[Tennis4.0]

Originally Posted by HBGal

Isn't this what so many people have said about Atkins?

Dr. Atkins was out selling his plan on all media outlets. Where is this Kimmer? Why does everyone get defensive when we ask the simple yes or no question, "have you seen her in real life?" The hoop la is about whether the pictures are real, ie, is she real. Big big difference.

[HBGal]

I can't contribute much more to this today as I'm about to leave with my family (but I've been glued to this forum all freak'n day!), but even if pictures did surface at this point, I still don't think anyone would believe they were her even if they were. It seems that many people are out to get her partly because her pictures don't match up in some people's eyes. And "real" pictures of her probably wouldn't either at this point. It's like she's guilty until proven innocent instead of innocent until proven guilty. I don't think she'd ever get the change to be proven innocent.

Regardless if she's a doctor or not, she's taken plans from 2 doctors and made it her own, correct? That's okay with me because it is based on plans of doctors. I'm having success with it and alternate between Kimkins and Atkins (I do Atkins mostly on the weekends since I'm around family more and it's just easier - plus I don't want to schock my system when it comes time to add things back in, ya know?). That's what works for me. A lot of people tweak their plans from time to time so this is my tweak, just like she made her own tweak and is now marketing it.

[HBGal]

I would love to meet Kimmer in real life. We live in the same city so maybe someday I'll run into her somewhere.

[HBGal]

I do that to, but then I delete it when I'm done. Guess she didn't think of that and now people are questioning it. Oops!

[Psi]

Originally Posted by HBGal

I would love to meet Kimmer in real life. We live in the same city so maybe someday I'll run into her somewhere.

Only if you knew what she looked like

[ReinventingMe03]

I've been a member of Kimmers site since last summer. I couldn't make the diet work for me, but I did like the friendliness and support that you get from forum members, and Kimmer herself.

It's funny about that red picture .. When that WW issue came out, Kimmer was talking about the photo shoot on her forum, saying how she had to basically twist herself and place her body in just the right position to look that good in the pic. I don't see any twisting or unnatural positions going on. Plus, the difference in this pic and the one where she is sitting in the chair is what first began to raise a red flag for me. She went on to say that the WW pics would be the last that she would ever post. I thought that was bizzarre. Like others have said, if you lost weight, you want to celebrate it and show yourself, not hide.

If you look at some of the success stories on her website, you also get the feeling that (some of) these are not the same people.

[cutepixy]

Originally Posted by Heather150

As for those who claim people are putting Kimmer's plan down like those who put Atkins down. Oh no no no....that is apples to oranges my friends. At least with Atkins, South Beach etc...trials were done, testamonials were made, research had been published oh and yea...they were DOCTORS!!!!! Not some entity on a message board. Until I hear she graduated with a doctors degree , why should I take what she says as gospel? Especially when there is doubt as to who she is, what she looks like and what her before and afters look like. When she appears in People magazine as is...not woman's World, where every crash diet has been published every week for YEARS (always with a gorgeous layer cake somewhere close on the cover-that kills me).

I'm sorry I find this comment a bit hard to swallow. Since when does having a MD after your name make you more credible. There have been many mistakes in the medical field regarding weight loss and weight loss products .... say like phen phen. Dr's back then were getting paid off by the drug companies to put there patients on those type of drugs irregardless of studies and trials that were done. In addition it has been said over and over again that Kim kins is pretty much a mix between Atkins and Stillman's diet plans ..... do those diet plans not have some type of research published on them???????
No one believed Atkins when he first came out and I am kind of sure it took him a while to get his research done and if you want to be technical none of his research studies had enough people in them to be overly reliable.
Who cares who she is its a diet we can either chose to follow it or not to follow it.
And yes before I get flamed I am doing K/E now I chose to educate myself I know my body I know what I need and what I don't need I will not blindly follow anyone's advice I will listen to my body and respond to how it is reacting with this WOE.

[Samantha42]

Originally Posted by ReinventingMe03

I've been a member of Kimmers site since last summer. I couldn't make the diet work for me, but I did like the friendliness and support that you get from forum members, and Kimmer herself.

It's funny about that red picture .. When that WW issue came out, Kimmer was talking about the photo shoot on her forum, saying how she had to basically twist herself and place her body in just the right position to look that good in the pic. I don't see any twisting or unnatural positions going on. Plus, the difference in this pic and the one where she is sitting in the chair is what first began to raise a red flag for me. She went on to say that the WW pics would be the last that she would ever post. I thought that was bizzarre. Like others have said, if you lost weight, you want to celebrate it and show yourself, not hide.

If you look at some of the success stories on her website, you also get the feeling that (some of) these are not the same people.

I like hearing the opinions of a Kimkins member! Thanks for sharing.

I am very on the fence about a lot of these issues. Is a 300 calorie diet too low? Maybe. But 800-1000 during weight loss phase? I don't think that's that low. I think Kimkins in a sense is as extreme as Atkins-- in terms of post-binge effects at least, and the ability to maintain the loss. Ketosis is ketosis, and when you get knocked out, the same repercussions ensue. I do like how Kimkins advocated a bit cleaner eating (less chemicals from bacon etc), but I think diet soda should also have been a no-no.

I love fasting-- no hallucinations!! Clarity is not being bogged down by carbs and food, which detract from the ability to really think sometimes. Come on, food coma?? We all have experienced that. I don't think she should be attacked for advocating fasting.

I agree that an MD after one's name is not sufficient to give good advice. I think Kimmer has done a wonderful thing by sharing her personal experiences and helping other people out. But could she have done it with a little more class? Absolutely. She did a lot of unneccessary accusations, and her derogatory tone and sarcasm was not appreciated by many on LCF.

I personally liked her and her ideas to a large degree-- lower calorie, fasting, etc. These are positive, life-extending and healthy resources. I think it's irresponsible to attack every idea she has without really knowing the science behind it. But having said that, I realize we are all different, and some people may not be able to handle fasting.

I liked her ideas, but the idea is as important as the messenger, and I think if she wants to be a credible source of information she needs to be more open about who she is and what she looks like. People paying her money who follow her recommendations truly deserve that.

[AriAnne]

Even with the recent lettuce leaf?

[Jake]

I'm sorry I find this comment a bit hard to swallow. Since when does having a MD after your name make you more credible.

Well don't be ridiculous. Go ask the gentleman who serves fries at McDonalds how much 12 years of schooling and an MD after the name mean.

For the record, I'm about to try Kimkins myself.

[Heather150]

I'm sorry I find this comment a bit hard to swallow. Since when does having a MD after your name make you more credible. There have been many mistakes in the medical field regarding weight loss and weight loss products[/quote]

Makes you more credible than someone (male of female) you never met, no one has ever met, claiming they have a new and improved way of losing weight, that hardly 1% of the people who have ever done it can honestly say A) They can stay on it for life B) haven't had any side effects other t