Why the fascination with Kimmer?

[SMP]

I know the joke is there are 5 "f's" that contribute to gallbladder problems. I heard that from an EMT ...[/quote]

I only know fair, fat, over forty and female.'Cause I fit the profile. What's #5?

[AllisonB]

female, fat, fair, fertile, forty

ETA: another site says "family history" in place of fertile

[LadyJ]

Originally Posted by SMP

I know the joke is there are 5 "F's" that contribute to gallbladder problems. I heard that from an EMT ...

I only know fair, fat, over forty and female.'Cause I fit the profile. What's #5?[/quote]

Fair, fat, forty, female and flatulent. I learned this in nursing school many years ago.....

[Yellobrix]

Is "Kimmer" also "Kimmer K" on Yahoo Answers? I'm going to go with, YES! And 1268 answers there to date, but too busy to field questions on her own site?

She uses her movie actress avitar, posts answers to diet questions, and typically ends with the URL for kimkins.

Some examples - starting with my fave:

latinatexas asks: I have lost 35 lbs in 2 months I walk 5 miles a days and eat under 1000 calories is this safe? I started fasting on Dec3,2006 and I plan to do a ten day fast. How much weight do you thing I will lose with this fast.

Kimmer K: If you only lost 35 lb in 2 months at 1000 calories, then it wasn't 1000 calories.

cnacyn asks: How do I lose weight with hypothyroidism? I have prescribed some thyroid medication and have been taking them everyday. I try to eat a well portioned, well balanced diet. I am active at work. I work for a total of 8 hrs straight walking back and forth, lifting, pushing and pulling residences. So what is it that I maybe doing wrong

Kimmer K: People with perfect thyroid function are also overweight. You're eating more calories than you need.

Cut back, skip junk and snacks, drop soda.

Source(s):
Natural Appetite Supression

ienaj1 asks: Is rice a type of starch?

Kimmer k: You bet!

So are potatoes, pasta, polenta, bread, tortillas, waffles, risotto, pancakes, corn and beans.

These are items we avoid during the quick weight loss phase of Kimkins. Your body processes carbs (starch) before anything else.

Source(s):
xxxxx

[ixtapacheryl]

Oh my goodness I don't fit the "fair" and the "flatulence" ...... I can't believe this. Hey maybe the 5th is "flirty"

[dlslds]

Originally Posted by juniper01

When I had my gall bladder out the Dr told me "Forty, fat, flatulent".....in otherwords, you fart a lot!

My gall bladder disease was caused by low fat dieting in the 80's. No added fat or meat touched my lips for three years, and I paid dearly for it by losing my gall bladder. Worst pain I had ever had in my life.

Forty, fat, flatulent omg Juniper its sooo good to see you again

well i went on that very lowfat in the late 80's as well only i gained weight


Cheryl what did the docs say was the cause of your gallbladder attack? if its not from being fat free then????

I am just trying to understand all this but perhaps there are a multitude of factors for making the gallbladder go haywire?

Cheryl if you ever find out what the other f's are ya gotta pm me!!!!

[Violet Skye]

Okay, in between bouts of expressing surprise that I still have a gall bladder, I wrote to Dr. Phil. I hope he takes this ball and runs with it - he actually has a dog in this fight because of his books on safe and healthy weight loss.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by Yellobrix

Is "Kimmer" also "Kimmer K" on Yahoo Answers? I'm going to go with, YES! And 1268 answers there to date, but too busy to field questions on her own site?

She uses her movie actress avitar, posts answers to diet questions, and typically ends with the URL for kimkins.

Some examples - starting with my fave:

latinatexas asks: I have lost 35 lbs in 2 months I walk 5 miles a days and eat under 1000 calories is this safe? I started fasting on Dec3,2006 and I plan to do a ten day fast. How much weight do you thing I will lose with this fast.

Kimmer K: If you only lost 35 lb in 2 months at 1000 calories, then it wasn't 1000 calories.

cnacyn asks: How do I lose weight with hypothyroidism? I have prescribed some thyroid medication and have been taking them everyday. I try to eat a well portioned, well balanced diet. I am active at work. I work for a total of 8 hrs straight walking back and forth, lifting, pushing and pulling residences. So what is it that I maybe doing wrong

Kimmer K: People with perfect thyroid function are also overweight. You're eating more calories than you need.

Cut back, skip junk and snacks, drop soda.

Source(s):
Natural Appetite Supression

ienaj1 asks: Is rice a type of starch?

Kimmer k: You bet!

So are potatoes, pasta, polenta, bread, tortillas, waffles, risotto, pancakes, corn and beans.

These are items we avoid during the quick weight loss phase of Kimkins. Your body processes carbs (starch) before anything else.

Source(s):
xxxxx

I thought she said she has NO time to answer posts on her own site.... It sounds like she is out recruiting for new paying members....

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by dlslds

Forty, fat, flatulent omg Juniper its sooo good to see you again

well i went on that very lowfat in the late 80's as well only i gained weight


Cheryl what did the docs say was the cause of your gallbladder attack? if its not from being fat free then????

I am just trying to understand all this but perhaps there are a multitude of factors for making the gallbladder go haywire?

Cheryl if you ever find out what the other f's are ya gotta pm me!!!!

The doc never told me what caused it and I never asked.... I just wanted the darn thing out. As far as the other "F" .... I'm sure it's nothing attractive. If I do find out I'll let you know my dear!

[CJane]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

I had one symptom before the attack took place. It was about 4 days earlier and my right shoulder blade really hurt. I attributed it to playing a round of golf the weekend prior - thinking that maybe I had swung the club wrong.... The doc said that is one of the symptoms of an attack looming.When the full attack hit - I thought I was going to die .... The surgery was a piece of cake - was able to do it through the belly button and two other little incisions.

I had the same thing happen, minus thinking I had swung a club wrong, LOL. I had no idea why I was having pain there, either, until the doc asked me if I'd had that kind of pain. I sure had.

I had the Laparoscopic surgery as well. It was a longer recovery for me than most. I'm not sure why. I'm just glad I never have to go through any of that again! If I had known then what I know now about low fat, low cal diets I don't think I'd have eaten the way I had.

[ixtapacheryl]

Originally Posted by CJane

I had the same thing happen, minus thinking I had swung a club wrong, LOL. I had no idea why I was having pain there, either, until the doc asked me if I'd had that kind of pain. I sure had.

I had the Laparoscopic surgery as well. It was a longer recovery for me than most. I'm not sure why. I'm just glad I never have to go through any of that again! If I had known then what I know now about low fat, low cal diets I don't think I'd have eaten the way I had.

So there is some truth about the pain the shoulder blade..... I thought he was smoking something. How long did you have that pain.

I'm sorry to hear you had a long recovery. I was in one day and out the next. No recovery to speak of..... I felt great! Did you have the "dumping syndrome" after having your gallbladder out? If I had anything fatty to eat it would go right through me with cramping, faintness, etc.

[CarolynF]

latinatexas asks: I have lost 35 lbs in 2 months I walk 5 miles a days and eat under 1000 calories is this safe? I started fasting on Dec3,2006 and I plan to do a ten day fast. How much weight do you thing I will lose with this fast.

Kimmer K: If you only lost 35 lb in 2 months at 1000 calories, then it wasn't 1000 calories.

Yello..thanks for this..I can't believe how incredibly stupid that Kimmer comment was..She is like a mean old drill sargent to these gals...And some of them take it.

She wants people to lose weight FAST to make HER look good..She can't care about their health at all..(obviously).

[CJane]

Originally Posted by ixtapacheryl

So there is some truth about the pain the shoulder blade..... I thought he was smoking something. How long did you have that pain.

I'm sorry to hear you had a long recovery. I was in one day and out the next. No recovery to speak of..... I felt great! Did you have the "dumping syndrome" after having your gallbladder out? If I had anything fatty to eat it would go right through me with cramping, faintness, etc.

I had had the shoulder blade pain for several months off and on. I had no idea what it was, and I couldn't really tell if it was muscular or a pinched nerve, but it ended up being from the gallbladder stuff. I also had a stone stuck in a biliary duct which resulted in pancreatitis. That was also quite painful.

Yes, I had the "dumping syndrome" minus the faintness for maybe a couple of years. I usually have no problems now unless I eat green peppers. I really pay for it if I do.

What I also found interesting, too, was subsequent to having my gallbladder removed I attended nursing school and learned that one of the bile ducts ends up expanding after gallbladder removal and kind of substituting for the gallbladder in that it stores bile. I think that dumping period probably happens before that duct takes over and does its thing.

I have no problems eating my fair share of fat, I know that, and I've not had a problem doing LC because of having my gallbladder out.

Oh, and it's been about 6 years ago I had it yanked. The eating plan I was doing consisted of lean meats and vegetables, and very little carbs, very little fat (using Pam, and all the low fat products). I'd say it was not unusual for me to average 700 - 800 calories a day. I had lost all the weight I'd wanted to, and very quickly, when I'd had the gallbladder attack. The ultrasound tech remarked about how easy it was to do the scan since I was so thin. And I was thin - so much so that I look at photos from then and wonder WTH I was thinking. It didn't take long after it was removed to put weight back on, and here I am! I am very pleased that I am able to eat well and lose weight LC'ing. It's been a blessing.

[unFLABulous]

Originally Posted by AZ native in Okinawa

SNIP
Anyway, I never bought into her "plan" which advocated NOT exercising, fasting and using laxatives.

If you, or anyone, could point me to where she ever "advocated NOT exercising, fasting and using laxatives," I would greatly appreciate it.

I have read her posts saying that she never exercised and that she fasted and still does, I believe. I have, however, never read a post where she "advocated" what the above poster said.

She hates exercise & admits it, she says you can lose without exercise. She has also said that exercise is great and good for you, she just chooses not too. She fasts. Whatever. The laxative comment...I just don't know. I have seen TONS of LC posts on different forums where people recommend MOM or flax seed or coconut oil etc to get things moving. Getting stopped up every now and again is just part of living LC. But please, where has she ever posted "advocating using laxatives?" ( other than the occasional use)

I get it. A lot of people here have a beef with her. Whatever. Your prerogative. No one has to buy into everything they read or hear. You SHOULD form your own opinions and think for yourself. But the above quote makes it sounds like her plan is written as:

1-don't exercise
2-fast for a few days every month
3-use laxatives daily
4-follow 1 through 3 and you will lose--don't and you are doomed!

[MorganMacLeoid]

If you, or anyone, could point me to where she ever "advocated NOT exercising, fasting and using laxatives," I would greatly appreciate it.

Read through the thread called "Ask Kimmer". At least by reading that, you'll know for certain they are her words and no one elses. Look at her website which says in big letters right on the front page that exercise is NOT necessary. Then, read the rest of this thread and you'll understand why people have a "beef" with her and what the dangers really are.

[The Bunnell Farm]

Originally Posted by unFLABulous

If you, or anyone, could point me to where she ever "advocated NOT exercising, fasting and using laxatives," I would greatly appreciate it.

I have read her posts saying that she never exercised and that she fasted and still does, I believe. I have, however, never read a post where she "advocated" what the above poster said.

She hates exercise & admits it, she says you can lose without exercise. She has also said that exercise is great and good for you, she just chooses not too. She fasts. Whatever. The laxative comment...I just don't know. I have seen TONS of LC posts on different forums where people recommend MOM or flax seed or coconut oil etc to get things moving. Getting stopped up every now and again is just part of living LC. But please, where has she ever posted "advocating using laxatives?" ( other than the occasional use)

I get it. A lot of people here have a beef with her. Whatever. Your prerogative. No one has to buy into everything they read or hear. You SHOULD form your own opinions and think for yourself. But the above quote makes it sounds like her plan is written as:

1-don't exercise
2-fast for a few days every month
3-use laxatives daily
4-follow 1 through 3 and you will lose--don't and you are doomed!

What she says is how is your BM

[Tennis4.0]

Originally Posted by unFLABulous

If you, or anyone, could point me to where she ever "advocated NOT exercising, fasting and using laxatives," I would greatly appreciate it.

I have read her posts saying that she never exercised and that she fasted and still does, I believe. I have, however, never read a post where she "advocated" what the above poster said.

She hates exercise & admits it, she says you can lose without exercise. She has also said that exercise is great and good for you, she just chooses not too. She fasts. Whatever. The laxative comment...I just don't know. I have seen TONS of LC posts on different forums where people recommend MOM or flax seed or coconut oil etc to get things moving. Getting stopped up every now and again is just part of living LC. But please, where has she ever posted "advocating using laxatives?" ( other than the occasional use)

I get it. A lot of people here have a beef with her. Whatever. Your prerogative. No one has to buy into everything they read or hear. You SHOULD form your own opinions and think for yourself. But the above quote makes it sounds like her plan is written as:

1-don't exercise
2-fast for a few days every month
3-use laxatives daily
4-follow 1 through 3 and you will lose--don't and you are doomed!

Laurie,
There are many, many Kimmer quotes in this thread in which she advocates the use of laxatives. Please take the time to read the thread. Whatever plan you follow, try to remember that this is not a thread about,"Them vs. us." It is way more than that. Happy Reading, it takes awhile. But the mods did an incredible job of keeping it on track.

[unFLABulous]

Originally Posted by MorganMacLeoid

Read through the thread called "Ask Kimmer". At least by reading that, you'll know for certain they are her words and no one elses. Look at her website which says in big letters right on the front page that exercise is NOT necessary. Then, read the rest of this thread and you'll understand why people have a "beef" with her and what the dangers really are.

But there is a difference in stating that exercise is NOT necessary and "advocating NOT exercising."

I have read Ask Kimmer. I am not new here. I don't necessarially care to understand why people have a beef with her, nor am I out to change any one's mind. I was just asking to be directed to a place where she specifically advocated any of those things.

ADVOCATE: to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument; recommend publicly.

Yes, she may have recommended laxatives to treat constipation, but was she recommending it in the way that the poster implied---as in part of her plan to lose weight?

[Tennis4.0]

unflabulous:

I saw your webpage. With the link to the Kimkins website. Just curious, are you a paid affiliate? I also noticed this was your first post here on LCF's since December. Welcome back!

[cleochatra]

Well I hate to burst those bubbles regarding Kimmer never dissuading exercise, but hey.

I'm the burster.

For the consideration of all, please note the email I received from Kimkins just this month...

Hey there!

Did you know exercise doesn't work? Nope. I know you're shocked! It's the most common fallacy in the diet business -- work out and lose weight. Are they serious?


Check any exercise calculator. A 200 pound woman who walks 2 miles a day will only burn 175 calories! This means it will take 3 weeks of daily walking to lose only 1 pound!!! Just 1! Walking 2 miles every day!

Here's the math: 175 calories x 20 days = 3500 calories (1 pound)


This is why the Kimkins Diet is a weight loss Super Star! Kimkins is thermogenic. You burn more calories than regular "slow" diets -- and it works without exercise! It's true! Kimkins members typically lose 5% of their total body weight in the first 10 days! Wow!

It's your choice: Depend on exercise to lose 1-2 pounds in 30 days or pick thermogenic Kimkins and lose 10% of your total body weight in 30 days! Hmmm, I know what sounds better to me!

~cleochatra. Bursting bubbles since 1987

[cleochatra]

More gemoliciousness from our fairy godmother, Kimmer...

Why do I like the Kimkins Diet?

Because you lose your appetite! Naturally. No pills, potions, fiber pills or other mumbo jumbo. It's like magic! A gift from your fairy godmother. Honest!

Due to the natural effect of ketosis, you'll wake up in 3-5 days after starting Kimkins and just not feel hungry! Works like diet pills, only safe.

Because we all know you never lose your apetite naturally when following Atkins.

Works like diet pills... only safe!

sorry.... can't.... stop...

[MorganMacLeoid]

But there is a difference in stating that exercise is NOT necessary and "advocating NOT exercising."

No amount of rationalizing is going to twist it around. She advocates NOT exercising. Read the forum and you'll see.

Cleo! I can't believe that email! Not only is it "you don't have to exercise" but now its "exercise is bad!" ? Unreal!!

[cleochatra]

Isn't that something, Morgan?

One might think affiliates of Kimkins, of all people in this big old wacky wide world, would know that if it's exercise, it's just not Kimkins.

After all, we know exercise just doesn't work.

And unlike diet pills, Kimkins is safer-er-er..er-er.

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