Why the fascination with Kimmer? - Page 18

Swifty1014 · 07-03-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SkeeterN

Faith in the Lord not KimKin. LOL These threads have me bound refreshing and refreshing all day long, and I just had to chime in.

It is so good to see other's say what I have been thinking for years.

Ditto

JustKim · 07-03-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mum22

I have looked for the answer to a question someone asked you, but I have not found your answer (I apologize in advance if you have answered the question) but have you met her KIMMER or whatever her name is IN Real LIFE?
TIA or after the fact

umm this was in response to a question about why an athletic trainer was at her site thanks though.

I am so tired of this. I should not have to justify anything. Have I been out to CA? no. Have we talked on the phone? yes. Have we written? yes. Has it been close to 8 years? yes.

Psi · 07-03-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tooter

I think it was along the lines of "How DARE someone questions how she knows someone". That's the answer I got. Then something about how she has lost all respect for someone she thought she knew. I think that was directed at me too, but not sure.

i was there

that's why I said she never directly answered it

Queeny · 07-03-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by heather2578

Wow Tooter, now I have to bookmark that and keep looking back. Did you read part I? I am very amazed that the women's world issue brought over $1 million in revenue to the website.

fraud or not she gets the last laugh, all the way to the bank........

Tooter · 07-03-2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi

i was there

that's why I said she never directly answered it

Sorry about that.

Tooter · 07-03-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KimATC

umm this was in response to a question about why an athletic trainer was at her site thanks though.

I am so tired of this. I should not have to justify anything. Have I been out to CA? no. Have we talked on the phone? yes. Have we written? yes. Has it been close to 8 years? yes.

Thank you.

flowerpower · 07-03-2007, 07:03 PM

KimATC - if you are really 'working' for Kimmer, you should be getting paid, right? You said this was your 4th job. That means money, right? If she has pulled in over $1,000,000 because of the article, I'm guessing she is actually paying you.

Have you cashed a check yet? You've let on previously in this topic that you might not be getting paid.

Jenn_in_NJ · 07-03-2007, 07:35 PM

I know there are folks that know more about this than me but...this just seems to be a very good viral marketing/afffiliate scam (for lack of a better word.)

How many of us have put money in other folks pockets simply by clicking and googling and searching about Kimmer and Kimkins.

There is a Kimmer, there is a Kimkins diet, but now there are dozens of other Kimmers piggy backing on people doing a search on her/it. They make money, they direct people to her site, she makes money. I can be Kimmer if I want, or say I've lost 100 lbs blog the diet, get people directed to Kimkins and get a penny for each person who looks, or joins or what have you.

It's like Magic Powder, Dyson vaccums, that self tanning stuff or Mickey D's iced coffee. (These are legit items that the PG has recommended..there are others that I personally think were marketing scams)

If the PG recommends it buy stock in it if you can.

Well, that's my take anyway.

RunForYourLife · 07-03-2007, 08:12 PM

I just think it's suspect that suddenly she needs a certified athletic trainer on her team when seriously --- when she posted regularly on the ML --- she was all about the lack of a need to exercise. She was pretty damn adamant about it, frankly. Never drank water, never exercised. Yet had this GREAT success. It seems like - if it were all about what you ate, as she claimed - that an athletic trainer would be unnecessary in the equation.

On her home page she touts the lack for need of exercise, yet her team boasts an athletic trainer. Why? Why the need for a trainer if that is not needed to lose copious amounts on this diet alone???

KimATC - I'm not picking on you - I'm just wondering why she's decided to add that component to a "team" when she clearly advertises that exercise is not tantamount to losing weight? Why pay you (if she does) or not (and therefore wastes your time) if it is unnecessary???

Kathryn

Tennis4.0 · 07-03-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KimATC

umm this was in response to a question about why an athletic trainer was at her site thanks though.

I am so tired of this. I should not have to justify anything. Have I been out to CA? no. Have we talked on the phone? yes. Have we written? yes. Has it been close to 8 years? yes.

I am sorry you are sick of this, but I think these are very fair questions to be asking you as you are part of her business as a listed employee or advisor or whatever you are. A lot of people have been giving you free decorating advice regarding your house when you asked for help. Sorry that these same people have turned around and asked you 1 question, and one question only. Have you met this person in real life? She is taking a lot of money from a lot of people as she is claiming to be something, yet she is not offering any proof she is what she says.

In your signature....

KimATC
Certified Athletic Trainer

I'm living The Secret
1) I am financially secure 2) I am a money magnet. I receive checks from many sources. 3) My kids and I are healthy and happy and living in .4) I am a thin and beautiful woman

....you talk of the secret and that you get a lot of money from a lot of sources. If you are getting money from your involvement with the Kimkins "organization", I hope you are saving it because it sounds like she will not be helping you with the legal bills you may be having in the future.

Why wouldn't you answer this question in a manner of, yes, I have seen her. Or no, I have never seen her. Why are you sick of this? Sorry, I really do not understand.

AllisonB · 07-03-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mum22

I am sorry you are sick of this, but I think these are very fair questions to be asking you as you are part of her business as a listed employee or advisor or whatever you are. A lot of people have been giving you free decorating advice regarding your house when you asked for help. Sorry that these same people have turned around and asked you 1 question, and one question only. Have you met this person in real life? She is taking a lot of money from a lot of people as she is claiming to be something, yet she is not offering any proof she is what she says.

In your signature....

KimATC
Certified Athletic Trainer

I'm living The Secret
1) I am financially secure 2) I am a money magnet. I receive checks from many sources. 3) My kids and I are healthy and happy and living in .4) I am a thin and beautiful woman

....you talk of the secret and that you get a lot of money from a lot of sources. If you are getting money from your involvement with the Kimkins "organization", I hope you are saving it because it sounds like she will not be helping you with the legal bills you may be having in the future.

Why wouldn't you answer this question in a manner of, yes, I have seen her. Or no, I have never seen her. Why are you sick of this? Sorry, I really do not understand.

I believe that Kim's "the secret" is a reference to a power-of-positive-thinking-like program, as are her comments about being financially secure and having multiple income streams. She is not being literal, it's what she wishes for. However, I'm sure she appreciates your legal advice.

Why hasn't anyone called out Catherine MacDonald? Surely she has the answers to every question being asked.

Jake · 07-03-2007, 08:38 PM

Just so you know, my kids are SO much cuter than your pugs.

lbbmp · 07-03-2007, 08:55 PM

Who is Catherine McDonald?
Thanks,
Lynn

JustKim · 07-03-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunForYourLife

I just think it's suspect that suddenly she needs a certified athletic trainer on her team when seriously --- when she posted regularly on the ML --- she was all about the lack of a need to exercise. She was pretty damn adamant about it, frankly. Never drank water, never exercised. Yet had this GREAT success. It seems like - if it were all about what you ate, as she claimed - that an athletic trainer would be unnecessary in the equation.

On her home page she touts the lack for need of exercise, yet her team boasts an athletic trainer. Why? Why the need for a trainer if that is not needed to lose copious amounts on this diet alone???

KimATC - I'm not picking on you - I'm just wondering why she's decided to add that component to a "team" when she clearly advertises that exercise is not tantamount to losing weight? Why pay you (if she does) or not (and therefore wastes your time) if it is unnecessary???

Kathryn

I hang out there (like I do here) because I believe in LC. I answer exercise/injury questions there (like I do here) because people ask and that is my field. Pardon me for thinking I could help someone.

Pleiades · 07-03-2007, 08:58 PM

Kim - how long have you been a trainer?

RunForYourLife · 07-03-2007, 08:59 PM

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Pardon me for thinking I could help someone.

Again, I'm not picking on YOU, but I do wonder why you would align with someone who has so publicly proclaimed that exercise is unnecessary??? Surely you do not agree??

Kathryn

JustKim · 07-03-2007, 09:00 PM

wow Mum...all I can say is wow. That was quite a leap. Allison already explained my signature (not that it really was anyone's concern)

I'm not any type of "employee". I answer the same stuff here. I hang out there and help out in an exercise forum because gosh darnit it is a pretty positive and supportive place to be.

JustKim · 07-03-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RunForYourLife

Again, I'm not picking on YOU, but I do wonder why you would align with someone who has so publicly proclaimed that exercise is unnecessary??? Surely you do not agree??

Kathryn

She has stated she did not exercise (and there was an underlying reason for that) My take on her statements, which like so many, have been miscontrued, is that she (and others) were able to lose weight through diet alone.

If you add in exercise awesome. And if you choose not to, you can still follow her plan and have some success.

I help out with the people who ARE exercising, or starting exercise, etc etc.

JustKim · 07-03-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleiades

Kim - how long have you been a trainer?

I have been an athletic trainer for 15 years

faithgirl · 07-03-2007, 10:27 PM

I agree there's something fishy going on, and no way are all those pictures of the same person. But it is just bizarre, isn't it? I mean, who would come up with this entire scheme? I just don't understand it...

Jake · 07-03-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KimATC

She has stated she did not exercise (and there was an underlying reason for that) My take on her statements, which like so many, have been miscontrued, is that she (and others) were able to lose weight through diet alone.

If you add in exercise awesome. And if you choose not to, you can still follow her plan and have some success.

I help out with the people who ARE exercising, or starting exercise, etc etc.

I really don't care a lot about this whoe manufactured "debate" and I honestly am considering doing Kimkins starting this Saturday.

That being said, I haven't noticed a direct answer yet.

Have you met Kimmer? (for the record, this is a yes or no question)

Is that her in the pics? (for the record, this is a yes or no question)

Thanks for any info!

Antigone · 07-03-2007, 11:38 PM

^Yeah, was wondering too. I've been following this thread out of sheer curiosity - am doing Kimkims btw. I think most of us here just want a straight yes or no answer.

emily1965 · 07-03-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by happy cricket

I really don't care a lot about this whoe manufactured "debate" and I honestly am considering doing Kimkins starting this Saturday.

That being said, I haven't noticed a direct answer yet.

Have you met Kimmer? (for the record, this is a yes or no question)

Is that her in the pics? (for the record, this is a yes or no question)

Thanks for any info!

I took this as a "no"........

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Originally Posted by KimATC

umm this was in response to a question about why an athletic trainer was at her site thanks though.

I am so tired of this. I should not have to justify anything. Have I been out to CA? no. Have we talked on the phone? yes. Have we written? yes. Has it been close to 8 years? yes.

Nigel · 07-04-2007, 12:30 AM

Hmmmm..........Hmmmmm..........and more Hmmmm...........

Tennis4.0 · 07-04-2007, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KimATC

wow Mum...all I can say is wow. That was quite a leap. Allison already explained my signature (not that it really was anyone's concern)

I'm not any type of "employee". I answer the same stuff here. I hang out there and help out in an exercise forum because gosh darnit it is a pretty positive and supportive place to be.

KimATC, I am obviously not at all aware of The Secret. None of my remarks were started to be an attack on you. But you have alligned yourself with this person. You are singled out by the other website, not by LCF's, (from what I have read) and you are apparently advertised as an on-staff employee, part of the membership fee, not as a friend who is ready to help It was only meant as a yes or no question. One complaint I have heard regularly from people about Kimmer was that she was often defensive and evasive when asked direct questions.

I don't believe anyone intended to attack you, but when you became so evasive and defensive and attacking others, we attack back.

Hopefultobemomtomax · 07-04-2007, 06:24 AM

Give it up ladies, you are starting to sound like a lynch mob, leave the people alone, I can't believe there are so many people still adding to this discussion, 10 pages full, too bad there wasn't 10 pages of positive reinforcement here. If you don't like it, drop it, if it doesn't sound good to you, so be it, big deal, wasting time and negative energy is what you are doing, so sad. Move on to a new subject. Just like all other people, quotes, etc. you don't get the big picture, you are taking bits and pieces from many different sources and using it to build a case against someone who won't give in to you and your so called questions, GOOD FOR HER. She's winning not you, she's spending her time doing something productive I'm sure, while your still sitting here debating her, what a shame. If the plan she put out there helps people, great, if it is a gimic, whatever, did she personally attack, or personally defame you, or personally hurt you, NO. We have so much time on our hands that this is what we do with it, sit on a chat board and talk about cheek bones and leopard dresses, myspace which could be anyone posing as her, DOUBT IS FEAR of the unknown, Did you try her plan? Did she steal money from you? Did you read Kimmer's Bootcamp? Did you read about

07-03-2007, 07:35 PM	#518
Jenn_in_NJ MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,313 Gallery: Jenn_in_NJ Stats: 267/149/?? WOE: Low-carb/BB diet Start Date: 2001	I know there are folks that know more about this than me but...this just seems to be a very good viral marketing/afffiliate scam (for lack of a better word.) How many of us have put money in other folks pockets simply by clicking and googling and searching about Kimmer and Kimkins. There is a Kimmer, there is a Kimkins diet, but now there are dozens of other Kimmers piggy backing on people doing a search on her/it. They make money, they direct people to her site, she makes money. I can be Kimmer if I want, or say I've lost 100 lbs blog the diet, get people directed to Kimkins and get a penny for each person who looks, or joins or what have you. It's like Magic Powder, Dyson vaccums, that self tanning stuff or Mickey D's iced coffee. (These are legit items that the PG has recommended..there are others that I personally think were marketing scams) If the PG recommends it buy stock in it if you can. Well, that's my take anyway. __________________ Jennifer, no longer in NJ

07-03-2007, 08:12 PM	#519
RunForYourLife MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Trinity, FL Posts: 2,472 Gallery: RunForYourLife Stats: 195.6/152/145 5'7.5" 35YO WOE: Atkins Start Date: Original start:2002 Re-inducted at 157 on 01/02/07	I just think it's suspect that suddenly she needs a certified athletic trainer on her team when seriously --- when she posted regularly on the ML --- she was all about the lack of a need to exercise. She was pretty damn adamant about it, frankly. Never drank water, never exercised. Yet had this GREAT success. It seems like - if it were all about what you ate, as she claimed - that an athletic trainer would be unnecessary in the equation. On her home page she touts the lack for need of exercise, yet her team boasts an athletic trainer. Why? Why the need for a trainer if that is not needed to lose copious amounts on this diet alone??? KimATC - I'm not picking on you - I'm just wondering why she's decided to add that component to a "team" when she clearly advertises that exercise is not tantamount to losing weight? Why pay you (if she does) or not (and therefore wastes your time) if it is unnecessary??? Kathryn __________________ My Running Blog Up next: WDW 1/2 Marathon (with husband)01-12-08 FINISHED - 2:58:xx WDW Marathon 01-13-08: FINISHED 4:48:43 Completed Goofy's Race and a Half Challenge - Half Marathon Saturday, Full Marathon Sunday Gasparilla 1/2 marathon 02-10-08 : Goal sub 2 hours - FINISHED 1:58:49 Minnie Marathon 15k 05-04-08

07-03-2007, 11:38 PM	#532
Antigone MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,944 Gallery: Antigone Stats: 220/195/130 WOE: Atkins Induction Start Date: October 2008 (restart for the nth time)	^Yeah, was wondering too. I've been following this thread out of sheer curiosity - am doing Kimkims btw. I think most of us here just want a straight yes or no answer. Last edited by Antigone : 07-03-2007 at 11:39 PM.

07-03-2007, 07:03 PM	#517
flowerpower An oldie but a goodie!! Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: NW Chicago Suburbs Posts: 13,312 Gallery: flowerpower Stats: 192/162/152 WOE: Lean Lowcarb Start Date: January 1995	KimATC - if you are really 'working' for Kimmer, you should be getting paid, right? You said this was your 4th job. That means money, right? If she has pulled in over $1,000,000 because of the article, I'm guessing she is actually paying you. Have you cashed a check yet? You've let on previously in this topic that you might not be getting paid.

07-03-2007, 08:38 PM	#522
Jake zombie cricket Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 10,833 Gallery: Jake	Just so you know, my kids are SO much cuter than your pugs.

07-03-2007, 08:55 PM	#523
lbbmp Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 329 Gallery: lbbmp	Who is Catherine McDonald? Thanks, Lynn

07-03-2007, 08:58 PM	#525
Pleiades MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: OBX Posts: 1,755 Gallery: Pleiades Stats: 191/143.5/115 (5'2") WOE: BFFM/NROL Start Date: January 1, 2007	Kim - how long have you been a trainer?

07-03-2007, 09:00 PM	#527
JustKim Taking a break Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 20,278 Gallery: JustKim	wow Mum...all I can say is wow. That was quite a leap. Allison already explained my signature (not that it really was anyone's concern) I'm not any type of "employee". I answer the same stuff here. I hang out there and help out in an exercise forum because gosh darnit it is a pretty positive and supportive place to be.

07-03-2007, 10:27 PM	#530
faithgirl MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ca Posts: 2,796 Gallery: faithgirl WOE: dunno	I agree there's something fishy going on, and no way are all those pictures of the same person. But it is just bizarre, isn't it? I mean, who would come up with this entire scheme? I just don't understand it...

07-04-2007, 12:30 AM	#534
Nigel MAJOR LCF POSTER! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,155 Gallery: Nigel	Hmmmm..........Hmmmmm..........and more Hmmmm...........