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Old 06-05-2007, 08:23 PM   #91
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I picked up the mag the other day and couldn't believe that it was about Kimmer. She helped me along time ago on this site.
I was so happy for her and so I came back to the site to share in the joy for her
I must add my 2 cents.
Kimkins is not a made up plan it is just basic Adkins/Stillman's and the reason she became so popular was becuase the LC industry was booming at that time and it was a minute by minute play of what the newest product was between wraps, candy, LC yogurt, shakes etc. And there were alot of people who were stuffing themselves with all of that and it wasn't working and she just tried to tell everyone that they needed to keep it basic and not fill themselves full of extra fat and crap and it would work fast and quick and it did/does. She never claimed to makeup her own way she was just trying to simplify the diet so that people would lose and someone gave it the name of Kimkins. She was so wonderful in giving advice to that group that we called it Kimkins to keep it in the right circle.
She did not stay on her own plan the whole time if you search for it you can find her saying that she maintains typically eating 70-90 carbs a day. You are not going to find people maintaining on Kimkins because it is not necessary to use it for maintanace.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:55 PM   #92
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I think Kimmers has helped a lot of people. So I am not dissing her plan at all. I have used it at times. I couldn't do it for long periods but it works. But I do have a question for anyone who knows her: which photo looks the most like her? Inquiring minds want to know. So don't flame me, just curious. The thin ones are all nice but I like to picture someone if I can and not sure which one. Thanks! Go kimkins go!
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the photo in the red dress looks most like her now.
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While I don't agree with alot of the advice she has given, I DO have to agree that to me it seems like this:

SHE lost a ton of weight very quickly, and kept it off, on a plan that worked for her that she tweaked for HER. We are each responsible for our OWN success, and she did her thing, amazingly. Well folk saw that, and they wanted to emulate her (who wouldn't!). So folk kept hounding her for how she did it, and I admit she has WAY MORE PATIENCE than I EVER would in answering the same questions over and over. I think OTHER people made up the name Kimkins and made it this 'separate legit plan', I don't think that was her intent at first.

On weight loss forums once one person has success at something, even if they tweaked something their own way, then EVERYBODY wants to jump on the bandwagon. You see it every day on the main lobby. It is annoying to me, but people are desperate to lose.

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Old 06-06-2007, 06:20 AM   #96
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Well I would imagine that it is just as safe as Atkins 72 since that is what it is based on. It is just lower fat really.

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It may be based on the FIRST week of Atkins 72, but A72 is not a low fat diet. After the first week on A72 you steadily add in carbs. I wouldn't call it anywhere near A72, IMO.
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I picked it up last Thursday and the gal on the cover really lost a lot of weight in such a short period of time. Membership has skyrocketed on her site as well so hopefully a lot more gals/guys are on their way to a healthy lifestyle.

I also know that she was featured in "People" magazine and there is another Canadian magazine that is looking for members that have lost over 100#.

I am so happy for her as she worked tirelessly in helping everyone on this site.

Was Kimmer featured in People magazine? Do you know when?
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the photo in the red dress looks most like her now.
Do you know her personally? That would be such an honor
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Was Kimmer featured in People magazine? Do you know when?
I'm curious about this as well
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I don't remember reading about a Kim or a Heidy in there
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While I don't agree with alot of the advice she has given, I DO have to agree that to me it seems like this:

SHE lost a ton of weight very quickly, and kept it off, on a plan that worked for her that she tweaked for HER. We are each responsible for our OWN success, and she did her thing, amazingly. Well folk saw that, and they wanted to emulate her (who wouldn't!). So folk kept hounding her for how she did it, and I admit she has WAY MORE PATIENCE than I EVER would in answering the same questions over and over. I think OTHER people made up the name Kimkins and made it this 'separate legit plan', I don't think that was her intent at first.

On weight loss forums once one person has success at something, even if they tweaked something their own way, then EVERYBODY wants to jump on the bandwagon. You see it every day on the main lobby. It is annoying to me, but people are desperate to lose.

Just my two cents.


I totally agree with this. I've been a member of this board since it was first started. I remember Kimmer well and yes, she was always nice and helpful to Others.

No, I didn't agree with everything she did diet wise, but to each their own. When she got a website, I thought...More power to her. As one who has suffered from Anorexia and Bulimia I would Never do a plan like that, but those are My issues.

When I found out about the article I bought the magazine because I thought it would be interesting to read about someone who was from this site. I wasn't Pro nor Against her. I thought it would be exciting to read about somone who used to post on here. Kinda like, Hey... I remember her, look where she is now!

I remembered the after photo that she posted on here and when I saw the photo in the magazine I was shocked because it looked nothing like the other one.

Then when someone had posted all the pic's together and they didn't look like the same person, it bothered me and I "questioned" it. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

I think it was a legitimate question. The pictures didn't look like the same person who had lost alot of weight (the after pictures seemed like totally different people in each one), the features and everything seemed completely different in all the "after" pictures. It seems like there were alot of people that felt the same way. The reaction of others who got upset about those questions only made me "question" it more. Why would they react that way if they knew it was really her? Why would they get so upset? It's not like I was "Reaching" to find fault with her...It's that each "After" picture really did look like a completely different person.
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I just wanted to add one more thing and I then I will let this drop.

I like to look at before and after pictures on this site and other places because they motivate me.

I can always tell it is the same person because of the eyes, complexion, facial structure. Often times, losing the weight just brings all those features more into focus.

What strikes me about the various Kimkins photos is the very different noses, facial features, approximate ages of the people in the photos, etc.

I don't deny that weight loss AND plastic surgery can radically change a person...

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Was Kimmer featured in People magazine? Do you know when?
Not Kimmer herself, but another LCF member, CartBabe I believe, was featured in People's weight loss issue recently & credited Kimkins.
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It may be based on the FIRST week of Atkins 72, but A72 is not a low fat diet. After the first week on A72 you steadily add in carbs. I wouldn't call it anywhere near A72, IMO.

That's a VERY good point! Atkins 1972 version (and I am old enough to remember the original book!) only had people eating that way for ONE week.
As a medical doctor, Atkins knew that no one could or should stay on that plan for more than a week at a time. In the 1972 book, the induction phase was for only one week, however Kimkins says to stay on that way of eating until you lose all the weight you want to lose. That means eating nothing but meat and lettuce and 1/2 cup veggies for as long as it takes to lose weight. For some people that is over a year.

Another thing that bugs the crap outta me about Kimkins, is that Kim lost a lot of her weight on ATKINS! So why pay $60 when you can either buy a used 1972 Atkins book on ebay for less than five dollars or get the info about it right here on LCF?
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Not Kimmer herself, but another LCF member, CartBabe I believe, was featured in People's weight loss issue recently & credited Kimkins.
Thank you for that. I will try to look through their archives
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Not Kimmer herself, but another LCF member, CartBabe I believe, was featured in People's weight loss issue recently & credited Kimkins.
she is not in this issue either
I believe this was awhile back though
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Like Kimmer, my highest weight was over 300 lbs (351). Believe me, when you have that much weight to lose, you want and need to take it off as quickly as possible. Having "only" 50, 70, 80, even 100 lbs to lose sounds like a dream. My plan was to do Kimkins for the first 100 lbs, then lose the 2nd 100 with Atkins. Kimmer was so helpful and kind to me, patiently answeing my questions and offering encouragement. In the end, I couldn't do it; I'm a binger and felt too deprived to eat that way for a long period of time, & I knew it would eventually end in a binge (my warning signs were there). So back to Atkins I went. I did do K/E for a week recently before vacation, and I lost 8 lbs., then gained all eight back as fast as I lost them. Granted, my eating wasn't the best on vaca, but it definitely wasn't 8 lbs worth. So, IME, the weight didn't stay off & came back very quickly.

I guess my point is that I can see why some people would be so eager to try Kimmer's plan, but for me it didn't work. But I certainly wouldn't question anyone who wanted to try the plan. More power to them if it works for them; if not, lesson learned.

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I know of no plan that continues to maintain us once we go back to our old eating patterns. None. But if there was such thing it is the plan I would choose, of course!

One thing about Kimmer, love her or not, she does get a lot of attention!
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I know of no plan that continues to maintain us once we go back to our old eating patterns. None. But if there was such thing it is the plan I would choose, of course!

One thing about Kimmer, love her or not, she does get a lot of attention!
Not sure if this was directed at me or not, since I posted that I gained weight on my vacation. In case it was, to be clear, I did not return to my old eating habits. Not even close. Yes, I admit I indulged a bit, & fully expected to be a few pounds up. But every pound I lost? No way! That was just my experience, and everyone will be different.

And, hey, if you find the plan that lets you eat maintain with our old eating patterns, let me know, will ya?
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No offense meant but I never cheat even just a little... In general low carb plans are tricky in that way. If you cheat at all you can gain more than a pound a day. But if I do find the plan I mentioned, lol, I will sure post away about it! Best of luck to you. I know dieting is hard.
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No offense meant but I never cheat even just a little... In general low carb plans are tricky in that way. If you cheat at all you can gain more than a pound a day. But if I do find the plan I mentioned, lol, I will sure post away about it! Best of luck to you. I know dieting is hard.
You are so right, a small cheat for some is the kiss of death
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No offense meant but I never cheat even just a little... In general low carb plans are tricky in that way. If you cheat at all you can gain more than a pound a day. But if I do find the plan I mentioned, lol, I will sure post away about it! Best of luck to you. I know dieting is hard.
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You are so right, a small cheat for some is the kiss of death
I sincerely admire (& envy!) those who never cheat. Unfortunately I learned the hard way that that is not feasible for me. I lost 170 lbs in 2000-2001 on Atkins. In one year I never cheated, but felt deprived the entire time. When I did cheat, I binged myself all the way back up to where I stared + 50 lbs. Now I stay l/c 99.9% of the time, but on rare & selective occasions since starting back January 30, I have indulged. Without these, I would have binged. No question in my mind. While on Atkins, these indulgences haven't shown on the scale, but they did with K/E. Just my experience.

Hopefully one day my relationship w/food won't be so effed up, but for now this is working for me. <knock wood> Truly, I have nothing against Kimkins, K/E, etc. Just wish they worked better for me & I for them.
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I agree with those of you who mentioned the pictures....they are weirdly not alike.

While I do know that her plan does work for some people (which is great as I was telling TT), what I don't get is she's advocating the Atkins plan just tweaking it (like everyone else does for themselves) and calling it Kimkins. I could call what I'm doing Heatherkins. It's all well and good when it's on a free forum, but when she's making $60 a pop for people to join her site... I personally really think the Atkins copyright lawyers are eventually going to shut her down if she continues to use that name, in my opinion, and especially now that she's getting more exposure through the article they may have gotten wind of it.

I do wish her well and everyone who follows her plan or Atkins or any plan... we all have to fight a battle and find what works for us.
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No she wasn't, but another member of this board was and has since posted a disclaimer stating that she lost most of her weight on Atkins and that Kimkins is a starvation diet. She was not happy about the way PEOPLE magazine said she lost it on Kimkins. Her name is CartBabe and she posted in the "Calling All Kimkins Maintainers" on 5/7/07.

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Old 06-06-2007, 10:43 AM   #115
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You most definitely should - I'm doing Rachelkins.

BTW, I assume that Kimmer got tons of legal advice before she launched her site. I know enough about intellectual property and copyrights to know that if she didn't CYA, she'd be treading on dangerous ground.
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