Kimkins featured in Women's World

[Newbie1000]

I think the question about the 2 different women in the pictures being answered would clear a lot of that up.

[momof4]

Originally Posted by KimATC

I have been Kimmer's friend for 8 years.

She deserves every bit of success she is now finding. You will not find a single person with a bigger heart or drive for helping others.

You may not agree with her plan/approach so be it, but you don't belittle the person behind it.

eta - she is my friend and none of you know much about her background, so I do take these comments personally.

Are you her friend via the internet or have you met her in person, I guess if someone would come forward and say I have met her and that si what she looks like there would be less sceptisism. Kimmer has told this board alot of her past and what she does and that is wonderful. It takes a very special person to do what she has done!

Tippy- I believe you look very different but at the same time someone can look at a side by side pic and say ok I can see how this is her. But your change is drastic enough for someone to just walk by. Great job by the way!

[cleochatra]

I don't see belittlement so much as well-deserved skepticism. I admit I am a relative newbie, but I am always a skeptic, especially when people claim losing weight sans exercise is healthy. I also view the way of eating as a crash diet. It's not healthy.

So, is that belittling the purveyor of the way of eating?

I have heard there's a new diet out called the "fresh pea" diet where everyone eats fresh peas all the live-long day. That's not healthy either, but as long as people promise fast weight loss then everyone runs like lemmings off of those cliffs.

People who are desperate will make bad health decisions based on one person who lost a vast amount of her weight doing Atkins in a Woman's World article and claims she invented it.

I'm not impressed with the fad diets and knock offs of Atkins claimed as something new.

JMO, and with respect towards others for their dietary choices.

[JustKim]

Originally Posted by momof4

Are you her friend via the internet or have you met her in person, I guess if someone would come forward and say I have met her and that si what she looks like there would be less sceptisism. !

I know her away from the boards.

[Tana1]

I have had people who hadn't seen me since last summer also walk past me without knowing me...it is possible. Also, there are some of us who can not do strenuous exercise consistently. For some of us, even walking is difficult.

BTW, if you current plan is working, just stick with it. What works for some, might not be your cup of tea.

I guess that is why there are so many different options to choose from. I have been around long enough to have tried many of them.

I wish success to everyone struggling with a weight problem, and hope you find the solution that works for you.

[califgal45]

I am not defending or agreeing, but I do remember a few years ago when I joined this board Kimmer did not have pictures posted and was asked almost daily to post them. Her comment to that was always every time she posted her pictures people said it wasn't her so she stoped posting them. Then she did post the first two. I also remember reading her post about plastic surgery for sure a tummy tuck so who knows. I also remember reading a lot on water fasting she is big on that for long periods of time but you know if it works for her then good for her. I wish there was a miracle cure as much as the next person but really all there is, is what we find to work for us. Atkins worked for me but maintence did not, I was a size 10 for almost 2 years now back up to a 14 due to menopause and an emotional year. I did start Atkins at a very tight size 22 so I am still not there but I am fighting it every day. Sorry did not mean to get so long winded.

[Krissyp]

Well deserved! I'll be picking up a copy.

Congrats!!!

[Tana1]

I hesitated coming into this thread. But, I also felt that there are some folks who WANT other options for faster weight loss and if my story helps even one person, then I will be happy. This site is where I first heard of Kimmers plan.

And, if I could afford some plastic surgery..........I would have it, lol. I would rather not have facial wrinkles, batwings I can cover up.

[lori121]

Originally Posted by Tippy Toes

Not defending for or against but would like to ask one question: Do I look like the same person in these pics?

As I've said before.. You look fantastic......

Since I need some motivation today. I'm off to look at before & after pics.

[shelby7851]

I just wondered about the pictures because if you are charging people to give them weight loss advice, then I think that you would be a little more forthcoming with the pictures that proved you did it, and kept it off.

I have been on these boards for a while, I was on when she was still on, and I always thought it was odd that she never posted pictures. 2 was all I ever saw of her.

Why would someone go and pay $60 and have to wonder if that originator had kept it off herself? So then, these new pics come out, and it looks nothing like her, it is very hard to believe that is the same person, and so I still wonder if she kept it off. None of my business, but if i was thinking about giving her my money to help me, then it is my business.

When you hire someone for a job, they have sales reports, or they can show you some of their past work to back up their claims, and justify the price. I think if you are charging people to help them lose weight, on your claims of how much weight you lost, then pictures is your proof. And she has always been so reluctant to show pictures, it doesnt make sense to me.

[Dabbadooey]

Have ya'll ever looked in a model's portfolio? They look like a different person in every picture. I think this is quite likely the case here.

[cleochatra]

I wouldn't have normally jumped into a Kimkins thread, but this did start in the main forum and was moved after the fact.

The issue I have with the diet is that it's a crash diet. There won't be maintainers because it's a crash diet. It's something one follows for awhile and then stops. And then what? People either switch to other ways of eating which work for life, or they continue to yoyo.

I read the maintenance thread because I wanted to read about people who've done well and kept the way off. Unfortunately, the theme seems to be that everyone actually switches to other ways of eating in the end. In Kimmer's defense,what works for her is something she can do for life, because it's her. But for everyone else? She's not a medical physician, and advocating fasts and extremely low calories is insane. It's like Lindsay Lohan telling the world that margaritas help keep her slim. At what cost?

$59.99.

LOL!! Sorry. Couldn't resist.

Seriously, though?

This way of eating is going to be held up to an extremely high litmus test and is going to give low-carbing in general a very bad name.

As an aside, I was extremely disappointed to see a more well-known low-carb blogger totally buying into this crash diet and praising it to the high heavens. Not only that, but when some questioned the practicality and safety behind her crash diet system, he jumped in and scolded the skeptics. Please. I think the boy's done lost his ball in the tall weeds.

People have the right to question what others are preaching as safe and effective weight loss. And they should. Atkins and Stillmans have been placed under this scrutiny. Atkins has passed well through decades of his hard work, and through success, but Stillmans is still debated as being effective. Will Kimmers be able to pass the test? Time will tell.

Be well!

[Lucky4]

There's one way to find out--someone should write to her, mention this thread and ask her if the pictures are her actual ones or maybe fixed. Regardless of the outcome, Kimmer was an inspiration to a LOT of us here--and she would PM us right away with answers--even if she was really busy. I could not stick to her plan long-term though because as I mentioned--fat is an essential part of my plan--for now anyway. But, if someone terms it a crash diet--then I guess the Stillman's diet is crash too. In any case--she has kept the weight off--we'll see how many others can do it.

[Lucky4]

One more thing--she doesn't look flabby at all to me. While I'm a big fan of weight-lifting and keeping firm--I'd rather have some flab than be in a dangerous position of being morbidly obese (which she was). Had she continued--she might not have been around too long to enjoy her so-called "flab" and "results of poor eating."

[JustKim]

why don't you guys go ask Kimmer yourself? You don't have to join to see the main page of her site.

Shelby - she has more than enough "proof" to support everything she says. If you really looked you would find your answers. I know the background but it isn't my battle to settle.

Cleo - I find that quite snarky and uncalled for. If YOU don't believe in her plan, so be it don't do it. But it DOES work for others and that is great for them.

So many different weight loss plans are discussed here...WW, nutrisydtem, Jenny Craig, IE, etc etc etc etc. All have good and bad points. All have people here that it has worked for and then others that it hasn't worked for. Everyone seems tolerant of each others experiences of every other "diet" out there....but mention Kimmer or Kimkins and the claws all come out.

For the people that Kimkins has worked for, that's wonderful. For those that have truly tried it and it wasn't for them, I hope you do find an eating plan that does work for you. For those already using an eating plan that is working for you, that is wonderful news! For those that have never tried Kimkins, yet belittle, bemoan, etc it......how about trying it or just moving on. This whole clawfest has gotten old. There is room for everyone, and there is SUPPORT FOR EVERYONE. How about showing it for a change.

(yeah and like I said initially - *I* take this very personally)

[cleochatra]

Why take it personally? No one is blasting the person. The plan? Absolutely.

I think we're all adult enough here to question and show valid concern and skepticism regarding a plan without confusing it for the person. I've shown that. I couldn't care less about the picture. I'm more concerned about people and their health.

If being practical = snarky, then sign me up for the all you can snark buffet of pragmatic thought.

I would stop taking everything personally, though. It's not about you. It's about the litmus test of a crash diet.

[JustKim]

spoken like someone who knows nothing about the plan, stillmans, or the original atkins.

[cleochatra]

Well, now that's not snarky, is it?

LOL

If that's what you believe, then that is what you believe. I, on the other hand, don't take offense, even when the attack is levelled at me personally.

Good luck to you.

[JustKim]

just merely stating that before you pass judgement on something you should know more about it. That was all.

[cleochatra]

*chuckle* You'd probably be surprised to know that I know more about these plans than you might surmise. Again, please do not take offense to the concerns others have about the safety, validity, and long-term successes of the Kimkins diet.

It's nothing against you personally, or ever.

In fact, it's nothing against anyone. Personalizing a debate into being one about personalities and not issues isn't practical and detracts from the actual discussion, being whether or not an extreme plan like Kimkins should really be touted as a major player in low-carb circles for weight loss.

I believe time will be the true test of any way of eating, and not what a few folks at a low-carb forum have to say about it one way or the other.

[Tippy Toes]

Oh, I said I wouldn't comment but since I am female I can change my mind, right? I have lost about 45 lbs doing Kimkins in rounds with alternating Atkins. Most who maintain do it via Atkins and there are plenty of maintainers. There are also plenty who gain it back on any plan including Kimkins and Atkins. Maybe it is a "crash" diet and maybe it isn't. Funny thing, my Doc prefers it to Atkins... Anyways, who cares what Kimmer looks like or even if she maintained it as long as it works for those who follow it. I can say this: Without Kimmer I would still be doing the fat fast (Atkins crash version) for 3 or 4 days a month because Atkins quit working no matter what I tried. I was a perfect candidate for Kimkins because of this factor, in my opinion. Did Kimmer help me? Yep. Am I keeping the weight off? Yep. Do I occasionally gain a couple lbs I have to fight off? Yep. Doesn't everyone have a fight on or near maintenance? Not all but most do. My point is, it does not matter what Kimmer is doing in her personal life to me--what matters is her plan did work beautifully. Her plan did not wreck my metabolism any further than I did by gaining 100+ lbs in the first place. True, her plan stalled out on me after a while too but I learned how to use it as a cycle with Atkins. I wish Kimmer the best.

[LCF_Admins]

We like to encourage the discussion of all plans here but, please, let's keep the personal insults for all of the people involved, including Kimmer, out of it so the discussion can continue.
Thank you for your cooperation.

[Sharis]

I said in another Kimmer thread that I was surprised by how different the new photos look but I just wanted to be clear that I don't doubt for one second that Kimmer has lost the weight and kept it off or that those are photos of her. The blue eyes have me baffled I will say. If that's photoediting work that was a poor, poor choice to make. I'm not sure why a magazine would do something like that but it appears that they did. I have no doubt that there is no malicious or deceptive intent on the part of Kimmer to tick anyone with those photos. Say what you will about her eating plan but no one can say that woman isn't one fine human being. Well, I guess you can say that but if you do then clearly you know nothing about her!

Peace everyone. Peace.

[CRosie]

I just had to learn more about Kimkins, so I needed to pick up the magazine (although I do consider it more of a tabloid than a serious magazine).

I've seen the photos in the mag and elsewhere..for credibility's sake, when you start taking people's money - you need to be careful on how you market.

Interesting to me is that one of those photos does not even look like a photo, but rather a drawing.

Anyway, it is interesting to see that the plan she devised with WW, includes a little more flexibility than the plan here - protein shakes for example.

I may be wrong, but I think that is new.

Anyway, she certainly has helped a lot of people and that's always a good thing.

Ro

[Sharis]

Originally Posted by CRosie

I just had to learn more about Kimkins, so I needed to pick up the magazine (although I do consider it more of a tabloid than a serious magazine).

I've seen the photos in the mag and elsewhere..for credibility's sake, when you start taking people's money - you need to be careful on how you market.

Interesting to me is that one of those photos does not even look like a photo, but rather a drawing.

Anyway, it is interesting to see that the plan she devised with WW, includes a little more flexibility than the plan here - protein shakes for example.

I may be wrong, but I think that is new.

Anyway, she certainly has helped a lot of people and that's always a good thing.

Ro

My point is that because it was in the magazine Kimmer did not have control over the use of her image. People highlighted in articles don't get to decide what is said or what is shown. I don't know why or how the decision about the photos was made but I can guarantee you Kimmer had nothing to do with it.

I didn't know she was doing a WW plan now! Wow, I can't imagine that.

[momof4]

Originally Posted by Sharis

My point is that because it was in the magazine Kimmer did not have control over the use of her image. People highlighted in articles don't get to decide what is said or what is shown. I don't know why or how the decision about the photos was made but I can guarantee you Kimmer had nothing to do with it.

I didn't know she was doing a WW plan now! Wow, I can't imagine that.

WW I believe stands for womans world not weight watchers!