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[Kimmer]

Originally Posted by HP

Hi Kimmer In your experience (or from what you've observed on these boards) do you think people lose at a steadier pace when they do your 3 day experiment OR M/E and then transition to Kimkins after the 3 days or just keep doing an ongoing Kimmers Experiment OR M/E for the long term (realizing of course that M/E and your 3 day experiment are not one in the same). I hope my question wasn't too confusing. Thanks for all your help and all you do on these boards!

The fastest weight loss will be at the lowest calories and lowest carbs so:

FASTEST: Water fasting
FASTER: Kimmer's 3 Day Experiment (long term) or
Stillman's (original, not BB version w/ desserts)
FAST: Kimkins or 1972/1992 Atkins
OK, NOT GREAT: Atkins 1996-2005

I think transitioning to "old" Atkins or Kimkins after a few days of "protein only" probably makes people feel better since they're adding a dab of veggies, but there's no nutritional reason for it.

Are you foregoing phytonutrients? Yes. But more importantly, are you quickly reducing your risk for type 2 diabetes and heart disease? Yes.

[Mrsevans]

Originally Posted by Kimmer

Wow, I better go re-read my own Fitday! No, if there's a day with something odd like that, it was probably a day I used to figure something for somebody on this BB.

When I was entering stuff in my Fitday (including journal entries), I never had any intention of anyone else seeing it. When people starting asking for my "sample menu", I made the Fitday public ... and was very shocked that people were shocked at the calories.

I didn't count calories, only protein (making sure to have ENOUGH) and carbs. When you lose your appetite in 'real' ketosis, you're just not hungry. Right Mrsevans?

No, I find it very easy to keep my weight stable, but I think it's largely because I don't eat "white" ... sugar, pasta, bread, tortillas, rice. My meals tend to be lean protein, any veggie (tiny corn or potato on occasion), 2-3 fruits and a low cal yogurt. Why this works for me is because I don't like "thinking" which is why Atkins was perfect -- count to 20, got it.

My sister is doing LC for the first time, dropped 35 pretty fast and has stopped because she's wrestling with "whites" ... she loves rice & bread.

Right lol

[Kimmer]

Originally Posted by Randy

There are separate forums for Atkins, Lean for Life, South Beach.....just makes since to have a Kimmer forum. She may not be published, but there are LOTS of questions about her views.

We'll just be patient and see. OTOH patience really isn't my virtue, LOL!

If anyone was curious, SNATT stands for Semi Nauseous All The Time which is the feeling many have in what I term 'real' ketosis (as opposed to the fake 'stick' kind with no weight loss).

[Mrsevans]

Originally Posted by Kimmer

We'll just be patient and see. OTOH patience really isn't my virtue, LOL!

If anyone was curious, SNATT stands for Semi Nauseous All The Time which is the feeling many have in what I term 'real' ketosis (as opposed to the fake 'stick' kind with no weight loss).

haha I am in "snatt" everyday.

[Shae]

Ok, well you said it was ok to ask!

You seem to have it all together, you have all the right answers and your current (maintained) weight is proof!.........Were you always this way? Did you ever struggle with this WOE? Have you ever had a problem with emotional eating?

I KNOW this way of eating is the *right* way to eat and I KNOW if I follow the plan and eat clean I WILL lose weight (now that I'm on proper thyroid meds)......BUT I do good for a couple days, something happens to throw me off emotionally and I cheat. In the past couple of years I've continued in this viscious cycle and I've never lost weight doing lowcarb. I've even turned my DH (who really needs to lose 40 lbs) away from lowcarb by my bad "witness"!

Were you ever like this? If so, how did you finally get it together and if not, what do you advise?

TIA!

[Bearski84]

I need some help with my meals.

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...wner=bearski84

What do I need more or less of I feel like I should be eating more but I'm not hungry what do I need more or less of I'm trying to work 3 servings of veggies in not quite there but im going grocery shopping tonight btw... Veggie ideas?

[waddleon]

Kimmer i'm bumping up HP's ???. What is better the M/E long term or the 3day experiment follow with Kimkins??? I just cant see how 1cup of low carb veggies or 2cups lettuce could "slow" down your results. especially if no sauces or butter. I read all the great results w M/E what is your take on it???

[Kimmer]

Originally Posted by waddleon

Kimmer i'm bumping up HP's ???. What is better the M/E long term or the 3day experiment follow with Kimkins??? I just cant see how 1cup of low carb veggies or 2cups lettuce could "slow" down your results. especially if no sauces or butter. I read all the great results w M/E what is your take on it???

I think Kimkins is better, but it's a personal interpretation as to "use only enough fat to make your menu work".

Some people may "need" 4 tablespoons of salad dressing on 3 salads ... whoa Nelly that's a lot of calories! I strongly recommend low cal dressing, there's a wide variety ... some so low they're almost free!

The Kimkins veggie "allotment" is directly from Dr. Atkin's 1992 book. We need to keep in mind that .5 cup is only a tiny Jello cup.

A big focus for me was keeping busy. Especially in 'real' ketosis where you're not hungry, not eating much, it's amazing how much sudden free time you've got on your hands, LOL!

[Kimmer]

Originally Posted by Shae

Ok, well you said it was ok to ask!

You seem to have it all together, you have all the right answers and your current (maintained) weight is proof!.........Were you always this way? Did you ever struggle with this WOE? Have you ever had a problem with emotional eating?

I KNOW this way of eating is the *right* way to eat and I KNOW if I follow the plan and eat clean I WILL lose weight (now that I'm on proper thyroid meds)......BUT I do good for a couple days, something happens to throw me off emotionally and I cheat. In the past couple of years I've continued in this viscious cycle and I've never lost weight doing lowcarb. I've even turned my DH (who really needs to lose 40 lbs) away from lowcarb by my bad "witness"!

Were you ever like this? If so, how did you finally get it together and if not, what do you advise?

TIA!

Emotional eating? I might be the queen of emotional eating! It wouldn't take much to veer me off my path ... argument with my husband, bad day at work, missing my deceased parents on Mother's & Father's Day. Even good news was a catalyst ... job promotion, new car, family parties.

This happened repeatedly. I lost very large amounts via water fasting and a few years later on Weight Watchers (I adjusted for LC). But then there would be a "trigger", including my little brother dying in a hospital accident.

No one can rationalize better than me: "It's just a tiny bit." "I'll start over tomorrow," (or Monday or on New Years or ...) "She worked so hard to make this special 'whatever' for me." "I don't want to be rude"Or, my favorite, "I deserve it."

Eventually I got to a place where I was sick of restarting. I told myself I was either going to lose the weight and get it done with, or accept my 318 lbs and get on with life.

I understand emotional eating very well, but I don't post on those threads because I don't know what to say. The decision is personal for everyone.

[waddleon]

Thank you!! I agree about the dressing its a waste of calories to me, i'd much rather have lobster meat or grilled chicken for the flavor.

[Kimmer]

Originally Posted by Bearski84

I need some help with my meals.

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...wner=bearski84

What do I need more or less of I feel like I should be eating more but I'm not hungry what do I need more or less of I'm trying to work 3 servings of veggies in not quite there but im going grocery shopping tonight btw... Veggie ideas?

I'm glad you're trying to work in veggies! There isn't a better calorie in town, for sure!

If you're not hungry, how about a bit less protein (12 oz of chicken is more than you need ... remember the RDA is 60 gm) and 1-2 servings of veggies that you like?

Keep in mind that no matter what "a" serving of veggies in any nutritional or dietary recommendation is only .5 cup and it's not too hard to eat a few of those throughout the day. You figure it's roughly 3-4 bites (seems so small to me).

You've got an excellent lid on high fat calories, too! Good job!

[heather2578]

Originally Posted by Kimmer

Emotional eating? I might be the queen of emotional eating! It wouldn't take much to veer me off my path ... argument with my husband, bad day at work, missing my deceased parents on Mother's & Father's Day. Even good news was a catalyst ... job promotion, new car, family parties.

This happened repeatedly. I lost very large amounts via water fasting and a few years later on Weight Watchers (I adjusted for LC). But then there would be a "trigger", including my little brother dying in a hospital accident.

No one can rationalize better than me: "It's just a tiny bit." "I'll start over tomorrow," (or Monday or on New Years or ...) "She worked so hard to make this special 'whatever' for me." "I don't want to be rude"Or, my favorite, "I deserve it."

Eventually I got to a place where I was sick of restarting. I told myself I was either going to lose the weight and get it done with, or accept my 318 lbs and get on with life.

I understand emotional eating very well, but I don't post on those threads because I don't know what to say. The decision is personal for everyone.

Kimmer,
Thank you for sharing these personal things. You are so sweet to answer everyone's questions and you seem so committed to this WOE & to helping others on the boards. So many come to you for advice, and sometimes it's almost like you're superhuman or perfect in "LCF world." But, it's really nice to read the personal side to you, it shows that you really are human (as we all are). Thank you again!!

[waddleon]

One last question EAS protein shakes 1 carb 100calories 3grams of fat YEA OR NAY??? Its that time of year baseball softball and soccer for kids, not counting my soccer or softball. They seem pretty handy as a meal replacement.

[cristaljoy]

Originally Posted by heather2578

Kimmer,
Thank you for sharing these personal things. You are so sweet to answer everyone's questions and you seem so committed to this WOE & to helping others on the boards. So many come to you for advice, and sometimes it's almost like you're superhuman or perfect in "LCF world." But, it's really nice to read the personal side to you, it shows that you really are human (as we all are). Thank you again!!

i agree

i've thought: kimmer has it so together, and is so in control... how did she ever wind up needing to lose any weight in the first place?

thanks for answering all the questions kimmer... you are a patient and caring person!

[cristaljoy]

Originally Posted by waddleon

One last question EAS protein shakes 1 carb 100calories 3grams of fat YEA OR NAY??? Its that time of year baseball softball and soccer for kids, not counting my soccer or softball. They seem pretty handy as a meal replacement.

oh, yes

i have a similar question because i know you say no lc treats, but i don't really consider it a treat-- instone pudding

it's 100 calories a can and 20 gm of protein, and i'm not a meat eater, so eggs and tilapia all the time gets boring

ok, not ok... for the kimkins plan?

[c-u-lean]

Originally Posted by Kimmer

If anyone was curious, SNATT stands for Semi Nauseous All The Time which is the feeling many have in what I term 'real' ketosis (as opposed to the fake 'stick' kind with no weight loss).

Good to know! I was actually one that left a question for you in an old thread. It was about being nauseated while water fasting. I ended a 7 day fast half a day early due to it.

Wow, this thread is getting long fast, most of which are just comments (like mine LOL!) without a question for you. I hope it doesn't get too out of hand.

Edited to add a question (since I was feeling guilty )

I understand the whole carbs are sugar thing (actually have known this since chemistry in high school LOL!). But I am wondering about fiber? Mainly asking because I have been feeding my son fresh cooked spinach (not the kind you buy for "babies", and it comes out looking almost the same as it did going in. So It seems it can't be used for energy the same as other carbs??

What do you think?

[gurlradiant]

Kimmer,
When water fasting I start to feel bad/weak. I eat 2 sticks of celery or a Lc yogurt and feel better. Do you thinkby doing that I am defeating the purpose of the fast? Will I not lose as fast as I could eating 1 cup Lc yogurt and 2 sticks of celery?

[Nady]

Hey Kimmer~ what a great idea!! Have missed you over on the Make It Fast thread~ yes, we're still going. Just wanted to let anyone interested in water fasting know that there are lots of info links~ some originally posted by Kimmer on the challenge that started it all~ the infamous 30 DAY DETOX CHALLENGE

Just wanted to say Thanks for all the help!
~~~N

[aim in Fla*working]

I LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks so much Kimmer~

[willgetthere]

Can aleve or tylenol kick you out of ketosis?

[catkin]

Will post your actual menus here? Like this?

Example:

B/2 scrambled eggs w/1/2C peppers, 1t. olive oil
L/tuna, light mayo, 1/2 sliced Roma tomato
D/chicken breast, 2T. mozzarella, marinara sauce, steamed broccoli

Pretty please?

[catkin]

What's your view on skipping breakfast?

[willgetthere]

You are my hero!!!! I did have a 2lb whoosh waiting for me when i got up this morning just like you said

[willgetthere]

Did I read right a few months ago that you lost all your weight without exercising?

[Kimmer]

Originally Posted by waddleon

One last question EAS protein shakes 1 carb 100calories 3grams of fat YEA OR NAY??? Its that time of year baseball softball and soccer for kids, not counting my soccer or softball. They seem pretty handy as a meal replacement.

If that's a total 1 carb, YEA!

Actually, if you're on the go and can add the $1 side salad from McDonald's, you're set for lunch.

[aim in Fla*working]

kimmer...what are the differences between atkins 72' and DANDR?

[Kimmer]

Originally Posted by willgetthere

Did I read right a few months ago that you lost all your weight without exercising?

Yes. I think exercise is good (so is water), but I don't do either.

From a weight loss standpoint exercise doesn't help all that much. Figure someone who is walking 30 minutes a day and burns 175 calories. Keeping in mind we have to burn 3500 calories to lose 1 pound, it would take 3 weeks of walking to lose just 1 pound! 175 * 20 = 3500

An exception might be people with obsessive or addictive personalities (and most overweight people tend to fall into these categories), who trade their food obsession for an exercise one.

It's interesting to note how many overweight people also smoke, become alcoholics, use illegal drugs or are compulsive gamblers -- all addictive behaviors.