Kimmer . . . . need you again!

elyseelyse · 04-11-2006, 09:01 AM

Kimmer - I am getting close to goal now - the last 15 lbs. I noticed you weighted 118. You are 5'6", yes? I have heard the "tiny-er" ladies keep mentioning that they had to work at it even harder to get down in the end. I have followed much of your advise (along w/ Amy's push in the right direction). So, what now to finish the job? Thanks so much! You will never know how much your help and advise (both from my questions and reading the answers to other's questions) got me to where I am today!

pooticus · 04-11-2006, 10:25 AM

elyse ur still losing why change if it aint broke??

elyseelyse · 04-11-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pooticus

elyse ur still losing why change if it aint broke??

I just keep thinking the "bottom will fall out" and I need to get a back up plan. I don't wanna keep gaining and losing the same 5 lbs. (as I've heard happens if you are small (frame and height) once you are close to goal.)

Kimmer · 04-11-2006, 12:52 PM

The bottom won't fall out, but if you're close to goal you need to eat less ... calories for 110 are less than for 150.

Your job is to figure out 'which' foods are best for you and your loss. Is beef better even if in smaller quantities? Is chicken or fish OK because you'd rather eat more?

My best advice would be for you to go 5-8 pounds below your goal. There is going to be flucuation, so if you're lower you won't stress.

elyseelyse · 04-11-2006, 03:01 PM

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp

Kimmer - I think I finally got the hang of this fitday thing - this is pretty tyical for me? What is your opinion?

Kimmer · 04-12-2006, 07:25 AM

Elyse, you have to make your Fitday public. There used to be something on their Home page to check?

elyseelyse · 04-12-2006, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kimmer

Elyse, you have to make your Fitday public. There used to be something on their Home page to check?

Ok - thanks! Made public.

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...ner=elyseelyse

Kimmer · 04-12-2006, 07:39 AM

OK, I saw it. I know you're anti-veggie so I won't say anything about that, LOL, but if you're wanting quicker weight loss I'd get rid of the pepperoni and nuts (calories) and maybe plan more "less calorie" proteins (chicken, fish) than hamburger.

Is the mayonnaise flat measured (scraped across a measuring spoon)? The cream also? Be sure on your coffee measurement. The Fitday default is 6 oz cups (those are the tiny cups with saucers that come in a china set). Most kitchen mugs are 12-16 oz, so check yours so you know how much coffee you're actually drinking (carbs).

I know Fitday is insane, but it really does get easier (and you can use Recent Foods for stuff you use all the time).

Good job, Elyse!

elyseelyse · 04-12-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmer

OK, I saw it. I know you're anti-veggie so I won't say anything about that, LOL, but if you're wanting quicker weight loss I'd get rid of the pepperoni and nuts (calories) and maybe plan more "less calorie" proteins (chicken, fish) than hamburger.

Is the mayonnaise flat measured (scraped across a measuring spoon)? The cream also? Be sure on your coffee measurement. The Fitday default is 6 oz cups (those are the tiny cups with saucers that come in a china set). Most kitchen mugs are 12-16 oz, so check yours so you know how much coffee you're actually drinking (carbs).

I know Fitday is insane, but it really does get easier (and you can use Recent Foods for stuff you use all the time).

Good job, Elyse!

Thanks for the suggestions. I am trying hard to keep my eye on the prize each and every day I pledge not to give in. Honestly though - I do not think this will ever happen for me. I have only lost around 3" off my waist from my high weight. According to size charts - I have a waist for a person who weighs like 180 lbs for my height. Oh well - we shall see what tomorrow brings.

LowCarbRachel · 04-12-2006, 03:25 PM

Elyse, with your waist measurement, I wonder if you've read anything about insulin resistance and syndrome X. I have been reading "The Glycemic Load Diet" and the author is talking about women and men who have a higher than average waist size in proportion to their body size. You could find the information very interesting and perhaps helpful. Have you ever been tested for insulin resistance?

elyseelyse · 04-12-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LowCarbRachel

Elyse, with your waist measurement, I wonder if you've read anything about insulin resistance and syndrome X. I have been reading "The Glycemic Load Diet" and the author is talking about women and men who have a higher than average waist size in proportion to their body size. You could find the information very interesting and perhaps helpful. Have you ever been tested for insulin resistance?

The only type of testing that I have had was for gestational diabetes when I was pregnant in 2000 and 2003. Negative both times. I have a full physical coming up this summer (first one in a long time - you know the whole denial thing). So this will most definetly be something that I bring up. I am going to try and read about insulin resistance and syndrome X. I know nothing about that topic really. Although diabetes runs rampant on both sides of my family. The only overweight person was my father (type 2). My cousin, grandfather and uncle (type 1) were thin all over.

Would you mind sharing the "highlights" of what you know about the connection btw. a larger than normal proportioned waist and insulin resistance. If this is true for me - I suppose a test would confirm it? Could I take meds to work on the "waist" issue? Thanks - that was very helpful! I guessed I always assumed that since I did not have gestational diabetes everything was fine as far as insuline or diabetes.

LowCarbRachel · 04-12-2006, 05:36 PM

Here is just a paragraph from the book:. He's talking about how a 34" waist or higher in women doubles the chances for diabetes and is a good marker of insulin resistance.

And then he adds:

"The good news is that the worse your insulin resistance, the more dramatically it will improve when you correct the factors that cause it. If you concentrate on reducing your glycemic load and activating your slow twitch muscle fibers, your body shape will quickly change. Your abdomen will shrink before the rest of you does. In fact, the best way to monitor your progress in reversing insulin resistance is not to follow your weight since you might gain muscle as you lose fat. Just notice the way your pants fit."

His book suggests that eliminating starches, soft drinks, and fruit juice AND walking 40 minutes every other day will help get insulin resistance under control and allow you to lose weight at the rate of about a pound a week.

Anyway. The book is called "The Glycemic Load Diet" by Rob Thompson. I picked it up for about $17 at my local bookstore. You might consider taking a look at it!

elyseelyse · 04-13-2006, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowCarbRachel

Here is just a paragraph from the book:. He's talking about how a 34" waist or higher in women doubles the chances for diabetes and is a good marker of insulin resistance.

And then he adds:

"The good news is that the worse your insulin resistance, the more dramatically it will improve when you correct the factors that cause it. If you concentrate on reducing your glycemic load and activating your slow twitch muscle fibers, your body shape will quickly change. Your abdomen will shrink before the rest of you does. In fact, the best way to monitor your progress in reversing insulin resistance is not to follow your weight since you might gain muscle as you lose fat. Just notice the way your pants fit."

His book suggests that eliminating starches, soft drinks, and fruit juice AND walking 40 minutes every other day will help get insulin resistance under control and allow you to lose weight at the rate of about a pound a week.

Anyway. The book is called "The Glycemic Load Diet" by Rob Thompson. I picked it up for about $17 at my local bookstore. You might consider taking a look at it!

Thanks - on my to do list for the weekend!

Kimmer · 04-13-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LowCarbRachel

Elyse, with your waist measurement, I wonder if you've read anything about insulin resistance and syndrome X. I have been reading "The Glycemic Load Diet" and the author is talking about women and men who have a higher than average waist size in proportion to their body size. You could find the information very interesting and perhaps helpful. Have you ever been tested for insulin resistance?

I haven't read the book, but does he say whether that applies to someone at normal weight?

Elyse is actually below what many weight charts would show for normal. I'm wondering if there's another reason for her larger tummy?

Elyse, you have 2 kids? Do your mom or sisters have larger tummies, too? Since you've had 2+ pregnancies, do you think you might have a hernia (ruptured tummy muscles)? It's very common and one of the things doctors routinely repair in tummy tucks (that's how common it is).

If you have medical insurance you might make an appointment to check?

LowCarbRachel · 04-13-2006, 09:35 AM

Yes, this can happen at normal weight. He talks about a man who looked like he was a normal weight from the back but how his stomach/waist/abdominal area was out of proportion due to super insulin resistance. He called this man a "super X'er."

I'm not a doctor and in no way an expert on this subject but thought of Elyse when I read these passages because she is very small in terms of pounds.

Rachel

elyseelyse · 04-13-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kimmer

I haven't read the book, but does he say whether that applies to someone at normal weight?

Elyse is actually below what many weight charts would show for normal. I'm wondering if there's another reason for her larger tummy?

Elyse, you have 2 kids? Do your mom or sisters have larger tummies, too? Since you've had 2+ pregnancies, do you think you might have a hernia (ruptured tummy muscles)? It's very common and one of the things doctors routinely repair in tummy tucks (that's how common it is).

If you have medical insurance you might make an appointment to check?

Thank you for the info. As for family history: My mom and I are twins (build wise - nothing else!

). She had lipo about 20 years ago - but I don't think it helped (then or now). She is actually happy having a large tum and small legs and butt. She wears one of those corsette/girdle things 24/7 - so she thinks she has it easy as far as gaining weight - because the right undergarmets can hide it. Whatever. My sis has a medium tum - but she is much more proportioned than me. She has a butt - I just have two chicken legs that meet up at my back. She weighs about 110-120 at 5' even. She is one who gains and looses the same 10lbs 100 times over. But - my mom's sis and her daughter are both naturally very small waisted (22"). They both have regular sized butts w/ heavier legs. I did have a great figure once. I was a ballet dancer in high school. I was about 5'1" then (grew til I was 19 or 20) and weighed btw. 95-98 lbs. I think I had a flat tum. I was not aware then really about food or body image. I was just me - I ate what I wanted and never really thought about much regarding my body.

As I started gaining - it went to my middle even before kids. Now after two c-sections, it is much worse. Now not only is the whole area fat, it hangs over my scar.

I finally care about what has become of my body since I was a teen. I did just this morning call my Doc's office and tell them I need to be seen sooner than August. I have an appt. in a little over a week. My insurance covers all my appts. (minus my co-pay) w/ my primary care Dr. I am lucky as far as having good medicine at my disposal. Boston has some of the best in the world. Plus, since the state is so pro-little guy that the insurance companies cover more here than just about anywear. (When I lived in other states learned that the hard way!). Do you think I may have luck having my Dr. approve surgery (insurance coverage) to help me w/ this since I am at a normal weight and still can not get my waist measurement down? I am scared to death of more surgery (I just about lost it w/ the c-sections), but even if I could muster up the courage, we could not afford it.

elyseelyse · 04-13-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LowCarbRachel

Yes, this can happen at normal weight. He talks about a man who looked like he was a normal weight from the back but how his stomach/waist/abdominal area was out of proportion due to super insulin resistance. He called this man a "super X'er."

I'm not a doctor and in no way an expert on this subject but thought of Elyse when I read these passages because she is very small in terms of pounds.

Rachel

Thanks Rachel. I was wondering that too. DH works next door to a bookstore. I am going to ask him to pick it up on the way home from work - can't face dragging the kids in to the bookstore myself (I would be banned from ever coming back again). I really want to add this book to my "LC library". I have read a lot and I find the whole subject facinating. Funny what one year and a healthy dose of caring does for you!

Just cause I'm dyin' to know now - what was this man suppose to do besides follow the correct diet? Would that in and of itself help him eventually? Would he have to get thinner than most to keep his waist low? Since he had super insulin resistance, he was not yet diabetic? This was just the next thing before? Facinating . . .

eggonmyface · 04-13-2006, 10:31 AM

E,
Yes I know you can be helped especially on Avenue Louis Pasteur. You may very well be a lady with stretched ads. Does the skin on your ads appear as stretched marks? Even if they don't I still suggest you look into repair. It is so wonderful that you have gotten your weight down and I know help is just around the corner.
We are all here for you

Kimmer · 04-13-2006, 11:12 AM

Elyse, a ballet dancer? Oh my goodness! Ballet is my favorite art, it's simply so beautiful. Non-dancers think it looks easy, but just let them try to hold 4th position for 20 minutes while standing in line at Krogers, LOL!

You have nothing to lose by asking the doctor. By all means explain to him that you did ballet in high school (before he drags out the exercise excuse). Tell him how your sister, mom, aunt & cousin are shaped.

Tell him you had a flattish tummy before and you're SCARED as to whether this is a hernia, precursor to diabetes & heart disease or what? It wouldn't hurt to bring in a recent article about the 35" waist thing (internet is fine).

I know the surgery is scary about hernia, but not only will you have your flattish tummy, it will be stronger. Don't quote me, but I seem to recall reading about a woman who did situps like crazy but her tummy got worse because she had a hernia (didn't know it) and the muscles around it built up.

The c-section was scary in itself I'm sure, but also because you weren't expecting it. If you are, then your mind can accept it more readily ... and you will be "fixing" things.

elyseelyse · 04-13-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmer

Elyse, a ballet dancer? Oh my goodness! Ballet is my favorite art, it's simply so beautiful. Non-dancers think it looks easy, but just let them try to hold 4th position for 20 minutes while standing in line at Krogers, LOL!

You have nothing to lose by asking the doctor. By all means explain to him that you did ballet in high school (before he drags out the exercise excuse). Tell him how your sister, mom, aunt & cousin are shaped.

Tell him you had a flattish tummy before and you're SCARED as to whether this is a hernia, precursor to diabetes & heart disease or what? It wouldn't hurt to bring in a recent article about the 35" waist thing (internet is fine).

I know the surgery is scary about hernia, but not only will you have your flattish tummy, it will be stronger. Don't quote me, but I seem to recall reading about a woman who did situps like crazy but her tummy got worse because she had a hernia (didn't know it) and the muscles around it built up.

The c-section was scary in itself I'm sure, but also because you weren't expecting it. If you are, then your mind can accept it more readily ... and you will be "fixing" things.

Always loved the ballet. Just never quite good enough. (by age 17 if you are not NYC Ballet material that is pretty much where it stops for you). Still have all my toe shoes though. Thanks again for all your help and suggestions. I am actually excited about seeing a doctor for once! Can't wait to see what he has to say when I bring up everything, I mean everything that I have discovered about what could be causing what and why. You Kimmer are one of the good ones!!!

Thanks again!!!!

elyseelyse · 04-13-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by su wren

E,
Yes I know you can be helped especially on Avenue Louis Pasteur. You may very well be a lady with stretched ads. Does the skin on your ads appear as stretched marks? Even if they don't I still suggest you look into repair. It is so wonderful that you have gotten your weight down and I know help is just around the corner.
We are all here for you

What is this exactly? I do have some stretch marks, but they are almost transparent. Thanks for being so sweet!

Kimmer · 04-13-2006, 03:14 PM

Elyse, you are a ballet dancer. You are the ballet. Some dancers get paid and then others don't. You don't have to be the shiniest gold coin to still be a gold coin.

I'm glad you're going to see the doctor. Be firm about tests (probably sonograms or ultrasounds and they don't hurt -- like x-rays) and follow-up.

You're young. You don't want to go through the rest of your life unhappy.

elyseelyse · 04-13-2006, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmer

Elyse, you are a ballet dancer. You are the ballet. Some dancers get paid and then others don't. You don't have to be the shiniest gold coin to still be a gold coin.

I'm glad you're going to see the doctor. Be firm about tests (probably sonograms or ultrasounds and they don't hurt -- like x-rays) and follow-up.

You're young. You don't want to go through the rest of your life unhappy.

I am excited for once in a long time about something that is for ME!!!

You know - I have never told anyone this, but if I can get a body one day that I can be proud of in leotard, I am going to enroll in a class and re-start up something that I loved for so long. I think my legs are still strong enough, people always told me (even at my heaviest) that I had nice dancer legs.

I think my Dr. is one who believes in ALL the tests. His practice is closed (I only got in b/c my MIL works as a secretary in the medical community and she knew his office manager . . . . etc.) I can't wait to hear what he has to say.

Lookie what I found . . just for you!!

(I was 16 in one and 17 in the other!)

One got "kid-ized" by my 2 year old. LOL!!!

elyseelyse · 04-13-2006, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowCarbRachel

Here is just a paragraph from the book:. He's talking about how a 34" waist or higher in women doubles the chances for diabetes and is a good marker of insulin resistance.

And then he adds:

"The good news is that the worse your insulin resistance, the more dramatically it will improve when you correct the factors that cause it. If you concentrate on reducing your glycemic load and activating your slow twitch muscle fibers, your body shape will quickly change. Your abdomen will shrink before the rest of you does. In fact, the best way to monitor your progress in reversing insulin resistance is not to follow your weight since you might gain muscle as you lose fat. Just notice the way your pants fit."

His book suggests that eliminating starches, soft drinks, and fruit juice AND walking 40 minutes every other day will help get insulin resistance under control and allow you to lose weight at the rate of about a pound a week.

Anyway. The book is called "The Glycemic Load Diet" by Rob Thompson. I picked it up for about $17 at my local bookstore. You might consider taking a look at it!

Started the book tonight . . . very good so far!!!! I think my Dad's nutritionist has him on some sort of diet like this (he is a Type 2 diabetic).

Kimmer · 04-13-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elyseelyse

Lookie what I found . . just for you!!

(I was 16 in one and 17 in the other!)

Guess what's my new computer background?

My heavens you're a doll! Funny you mentioned going back to dance because I was doing to suggest it to you, not for weight loss per se but excellent tummy exercise AND your kids can tell their friends their mommy is a ballerina!

Or, if you're looking for extra $$$ you might look into a dance school, which ever age (level) you're comfortable with. Space can be found cheap, it's the teacher that's important. Have you seen Staying Alive?

04-11-2006, 09:01 AM	#1
elyseelyse Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Just north of the Peoples Republic of Cambridge Posts: 12,181 Gallery: elyseelyse Stats: Still too much....grrrrrr.... WOE: Counting calories w/ a LC emphasis Start Date: Sept 2005	Kimmer . . . . need you again! Kimmer - I am getting close to goal now - the last 15 lbs. I noticed you weighted 118. You are 5'6", yes? I have heard the "tiny-er" ladies keep mentioning that they had to work at it even harder to get down in the end. I have followed much of your advise (along w/ Amy's push in the right direction). So, what now to finish the job? Thanks so much! You will never know how much your help and advise (both from my questions and reading the answers to other's questions) got me to where I am today! __________________ "Nothings so loud as hearing when we lie, the truth is not kind" McCain/Palin '08

04-11-2006, 03:01 PM	#5
elyseelyse Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Just north of the Peoples Republic of Cambridge Posts: 12,181 Gallery: elyseelyse Stats: Still too much....grrrrrr.... WOE: Counting calories w/ a LC emphasis Start Date: Sept 2005	http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp Kimmer - I think I finally got the hang of this fitday thing - this is pretty tyical for me? What is your opinion? Last edited by elyseelyse : 04-11-2006 at 03:02 PM.

04-11-2006, 10:25 AM	#2
pooticus Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: May 2004 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 15,846 Gallery: pooticus Stats: 314/268.4/150 WOE: PersonalPlan Start Date: Nov.20, 2007	elyse ur still losing why change if it aint broke??

04-11-2006, 12:52 PM	#4
Kimmer Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: California Posts: 19,133 Gallery: Kimmer Stats: 318/118/125 WOE: Kimkins	The bottom won't fall out, but if you're close to goal you need to eat less ... calories for 110 are less than for 150. Your job is to figure out 'which' foods are best for you and your loss. Is beef better even if in smaller quantities? Is chicken or fish OK because you'd rather eat more? My best advice would be for you to go 5-8 pounds below your goal. There is going to be flucuation, so if you're lower you won't stress.

04-12-2006, 07:25 AM	#6
Kimmer Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: California Posts: 19,133 Gallery: Kimmer Stats: 318/118/125 WOE: Kimkins	Elyse, you have to make your Fitday public. There used to be something on their Home page to check?

04-12-2006, 07:39 AM	#8
Kimmer Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: California Posts: 19,133 Gallery: Kimmer Stats: 318/118/125 WOE: Kimkins	OK, I saw it. I know you're anti-veggie so I won't say anything about that, LOL, but if you're wanting quicker weight loss I'd get rid of the pepperoni and nuts (calories) and maybe plan more "less calorie" proteins (chicken, fish) than hamburger. Is the mayonnaise flat measured (scraped across a measuring spoon)? The cream also? Be sure on your coffee measurement. The Fitday default is 6 oz cups (those are the tiny cups with saucers that come in a china set). Most kitchen mugs are 12-16 oz, so check yours so you know how much coffee you're actually drinking (carbs). I know Fitday is insane, but it really does get easier (and you can use Recent Foods for stuff you use all the time). Good job, Elyse!

04-12-2006, 03:25 PM	#10
LowCarbRachel Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Salt Lake Area Posts: 11,799 Gallery: LowCarbRachel Stats: 151/135/129	Elyse, with your waist measurement, I wonder if you've read anything about insulin resistance and syndrome X. I have been reading "The Glycemic Load Diet" and the author is talking about women and men who have a higher than average waist size in proportion to their body size. You could find the information very interesting and perhaps helpful. Have you ever been tested for insulin resistance?

04-12-2006, 05:36 PM	#12
LowCarbRachel Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Salt Lake Area Posts: 11,799 Gallery: LowCarbRachel Stats: 151/135/129	Here is just a paragraph from the book:. He's talking about how a 34" waist or higher in women doubles the chances for diabetes and is a good marker of insulin resistance. And then he adds: "The good news is that the worse your insulin resistance, the more dramatically it will improve when you correct the factors that cause it. If you concentrate on reducing your glycemic load and activating your slow twitch muscle fibers, your body shape will quickly change. Your abdomen will shrink before the rest of you does. In fact, the best way to monitor your progress in reversing insulin resistance is not to follow your weight since you might gain muscle as you lose fat. Just notice the way your pants fit." His book suggests that eliminating starches, soft drinks, and fruit juice AND walking 40 minutes every other day will help get insulin resistance under control and allow you to lose weight at the rate of about a pound a week. Anyway. The book is called "The Glycemic Load Diet" by Rob Thompson. I picked it up for about $17 at my local bookstore. You might consider taking a look at it!

04-13-2006, 09:35 AM	#15
LowCarbRachel Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Salt Lake Area Posts: 11,799 Gallery: LowCarbRachel Stats: 151/135/129	Yes, this can happen at normal weight. He talks about a man who looked like he was a normal weight from the back but how his stomach/waist/abdominal area was out of proportion due to super insulin resistance. He called this man a "super X'er." I'm not a doctor and in no way an expert on this subject but thought of Elyse when I read these passages because she is very small in terms of pounds. Rachel

04-13-2006, 10:31 AM	#18
eggonmyface Senior LCF Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 133 Gallery: eggonmyface Stats: 270/127 WOE: Dr. A Start Date: JUNE 2004	E, Yes I know you can be helped especially on Avenue Louis Pasteur. You may very well be a lady with stretched ads. Does the skin on your ads appear as stretched marks? Even if they don't I still suggest you look into repair. It is so wonderful that you have gotten your weight down and I know help is just around the corner. We are all here for you

04-13-2006, 11:12 AM	#19
Kimmer Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: California Posts: 19,133 Gallery: Kimmer Stats: 318/118/125 WOE: Kimkins	Elyse, a ballet dancer? Oh my goodness! Ballet is my favorite art, it's simply so beautiful. Non-dancers think it looks easy, but just let them try to hold 4th position for 20 minutes while standing in line at Krogers, LOL! You have nothing to lose by asking the doctor. By all means explain to him that you did ballet in high school (before he drags out the exercise excuse). Tell him how your sister, mom, aunt & cousin are shaped. Tell him you had a flattish tummy before and you're SCARED as to whether this is a hernia, precursor to diabetes & heart disease or what? It wouldn't hurt to bring in a recent article about the 35" waist thing (internet is fine). I know the surgery is scary about hernia, but not only will you have your flattish tummy, it will be stronger. Don't quote me, but I seem to recall reading about a woman who did situps like crazy but her tummy got worse because she had a hernia (didn't know it) and the muscles around it built up. The c-section was scary in itself I'm sure, but also because you weren't expecting it. If you are, then your mind can accept it more readily ... and you will be "fixing" things.

04-13-2006, 03:14 PM	#22
Kimmer Way too much time on my hands! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: California Posts: 19,133 Gallery: Kimmer Stats: 318/118/125 WOE: Kimkins	Elyse, you are a ballet dancer. You are the ballet. Some dancers get paid and then others don't. You don't have to be the shiniest gold coin to still be a gold coin. I'm glad you're going to see the doctor. Be firm about tests (probably sonograms or ultrasounds and they don't hurt -- like x-rays) and follow-up. You're young. You don't want to go through the rest of your life unhappy.