what the heck is kimkins?

[Lulu42]

I see a number of people doing "kimkins" and I can't figure out what that is. Can someone enlighten me?

Thanks,
Lulu.

[nisha_mommy2one]

It's Kimmer's plan the M/E I think many people call her kimkim as well

[shulamite]

funny ... my friend and i were just talking about that this morning as she is doing stillmans...and having great success... but says she cant have chicken on it...

wonder if kimmer would post her basic rules of 'KIMKINS'

kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmer!!!

im battin' my eyelashes...

please...

[nisha_mommy2one]

The rules are on the M/E challenge

[Lulu42]

do you have to count calories doing kimkin like in the fat fast? I find that I am hungry all the time trying to do FF.

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by shulamite

funny ... my friend and i were just talking about that this morning as she is doing stillmans...and having great success... but says she cant have chicken on it.....

I don't know where she got this idea. Here's the plan:


The Doctor's Quick Weight Loss Diet
by Irwin Maxwell Stillman M.D., Samm Sinclair Baker


THE QUICK LOSS METHOD

This is a severe form of ketogenic diet. It is not easily sustainable for the longterm. It may be useful in breaking plateaus and in those too impatient to allow their bodies to take the fat off gradually at its own pace.

NOTHING ELSE IS PERMITTED ON THIS DIET--NOTHING! IF IT'S NOT MENTIONED IN THE FOLLOWING LIST, DON'T EAT OR DRINK IT.

Eat all you wish of the following foods to satisfy hunger. If you eat until you've satisfied your hunger but haven't stuffed yourself, and then feel hungry before the next meal, you can eat again, but only from the foods listed here. In fact, you're better off eating smaller meals 6 times a day than 3 bigger meals as is the general custom. But you limit yourself to this extensive list of high protein foods.

1. LEAN MEATS,with all possible fat trimmed off. Includes beef, lamb, veal. Eat it broiled, boiled, baked or smoked. No butter, margarine, oil or other fats or grease are to be used either in the cooking or the eating.

2. CHICKEN AND TURKEY with all skin removed. Broiled, boiled or roasted, with no butter, margarine, oil or other fats or greases. Young fowl is preferable but not necessary.

3. ALL LEAN FISH such as flounder, haddock, cod and perch; SEAFOOD: shrimps, scallops, lobsters, oysters, clams, crabs. No butter, margarine, oil or other fats or greases permitted in preparation or serving. You may have cocktail sauce, horseradish, ketchup-in moderation.

4. EGGS. Hard boiled preferably. Also soft or medium boiled eggs, poached, or any type of fried eggs made in non-fat, non-stick pans without butter, margarine, oil or other fats or greases.

5. COTTAGE CHEESE, FARMER CHEESE, POT CHEESE made with skim milk and no whole milk.

6. AT LEAST 8 GLASSES OF WATER PER DAY, absolutely essential (10 ounce glasses). As much as you want of coffee and tea without cream, milk or sugar. You may sweeten with non-caloric sweeteners to taste. Enjoy all the club soda, vichy and non-caloric carbonated beverages you wish, as often as desired.

The eight <10 ounce> glasses of water daily are in addition to whatever coffee, tea and non-caloric carbonated beverages you drink. This is an integral part of the specific internal process put into motion by the Quick Weight Loss Diet. Much more of your body fat is burned up than with most other diets. This leaves in its wake the waste products or ashes of burnt fat. [ketone bodies] They must all be washed out of your system by water which also serves to relieve any unpleasant dryness and taste in the mouth.

Note: ketone bodies are not ashes, they are the by-product of incomplete burning of fats. Ketones are to fat as charcoal is to wood. Ketones can be burned for fuel by your body. Most people have feedback loops to protect against ketosis-acidosis.

You may use common seasonings such as salt, pepper, garlic, cloves, thyme, other herbs and spices, cocktail sauce, tabasco sauce, horseradish, ketchup. Don't use any creamy or oily sauces or dressings. No mayonaise, no salad dressings, no oils, no fats.

It is desirable to take vitamins daily with the diet, such as a once-daily vitamin and mineral tablet.

NOTHING ELSE IS PERMITTED ON THIS DIET--NOTHING! IF IT'S NOT MENTIONED IN THE PRECEDING LIST, DON'T EAT OR DRINK IT.

If you disregard the instructions and eat regular carbohydrates or sugar or alcohol, you will stop burning up stored fat as efficiently. Even one indiscretion, one mouthful of ice cream, for example, will set you back a day or two.

You will lose the most weight on The Quick Loss Diet, most quickly, if you eat only to satisfy your humger pangs rather than to gratify a desire to eat just for the pleasure of eating.

This diet has practically no residue (fiber). Therefore it is likely that you may not have a bowel movement for a few days, although not necessarily so. In any case don't be alarmed by any such lack. [note: extra vitamin C or milk of magnesia is helpful in some cases]

[nisha_mommy2one]

here is the original challenge for the strict M/E

DAY KIMMER EXP (MEAT AND EGG) ***POST LOSSES HERE*** WK OF 8/22-8/28

[Magicsmom]

Originally Posted by shulamite

wonder if kimmer would post her basic rules of 'KIMKINS'..

I think Kimmer's "rules" are very similar to Stillman's, except she tells you to severely limit added fats (butter, mayo, salad dressing, etc.), as opposed to not having any at all. I believe it's something like have just enough for flavor, but measure every bit you use. Also, on Kimkins you are encouraged to have leafy greens. Kimmer will hopefully chime in here, but my take on things is that Kimkins if Stillman's with leafy greens and very sparing use of added fats.

[charmedpea]

Has anyone done this version diet? And if so how long did you stay on it?

What were your results? After doing this and you went back on regular induction did you gain any of the weight back?

charmed

[shulamite]

my girlfriend is going to flip!!! thanks so much for sharing the diet skinny (skinny get it ha ha) she has really had it tough not being able to do chicken...

i will share this thread with her!

and she is having a great week...down like 8lbs ...gotten control of her appetite...

this is great info...

Kimmer has said 'Kimkins' is simply her renaming of Atkins '72

[Kimmer]

Originally Posted by MandyDee

Kimmer has said 'Kimkins' is simply her renaming of Atkins '72

Such a smart girl! And not to eat if you're not hungry which automatically limits fat calories.

I changed my weight loss method to Kimkins rather than Atkins because the Atkins Nutritionist posted that how I lost my weight (Atkins '92) is no longer valid.

1) Up to 20 carbs (no subtraction of anything)
2) Up to 3 cups of salad veggies or 2 cups + .5 cup "cooked"
3) Minimum 70 grams protein

That's it.

LOL Kimmer..that's exactly the plan I followed too..guess it didn't work for me either if it's invalid

[Meri]

how come folks forget if something is the truth, it doesn't come in and out of fashion, or become 'invalid', it simply is.

[TLO]

That's funny! That's the plan I used two years ago and am using now. I don't buy the whole "subtract fiber and sugar alcohols" thing either. Every carb counts for me so I eat them wisely.