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Old 09-15-2014, 12:04 PM   #1
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Starting Over

I'm starting over after a year away from JUDDD and gaining back everything I had lost. Tomorrow is my first down day, but the thought of only 500 calories is making me very, very nervous.

My calculated calories are:

20% - 532/2662
25% - 666/2662
30% - 799/2662
35% - 932/2662

I'm thinking that I will do better not stressing myself out over the 500 calorie days and starting my down days at 700-900. My up day calories are very high, so I think this will be a big enough swing.

I'm so afraid that I won't be able to stick with it at 500 calories. I'm already dreading and fearful about it and it hasn't even happened yet!

Thoughts?
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Old 09-15-2014, 12:24 PM   #2
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I think you should start at whatever number gives you the best chance at success. If that means doing a 2 week induction at the 35% number, I think that's no issue at all. Start there and adjust when you feel your body/mindset is ready IMO.
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Old 09-15-2014, 12:24 PM   #3
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I think it's a good idea to give yourself some leeway the first couple of weeks. Start out allowing yourself up to 900 calories, and you might be surprised that you don't NEED them all. Work your way down as you're able to.

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Old 09-15-2014, 01:09 PM   #4
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Back Karen! Six months ago I was in the exact same boat you are now. Had gained back all I lost.

I found JUDDD incredibly easy to get back into though. The first few DD's were tough and after that much easier, so whatever you need to get through those first few!
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Old 09-15-2014, 01:58 PM   #5
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What all the girls said above.

Karen - And you're right, those high UDs will help get you through the DDs.

You know, I restarted JUDDD because one day I was looking at my 1200 calorie diet that I was maintaining on for 2 years, but not losing. I thought, "If I could eat 600 calories EOD, I could lose weight. (I knew I couldn't just go down to 900 a day - I'd feel very weak/irritable.) Then the light bulb moment came - "Hey that's JUDDD!!! Let me go look them up again on the computer."

Then I thought, "What will I eat on those terrible DDs?" I'd recently been eating a lot of these: 1/2 a large Joseph's pitas stuffed w/lettuce and cherry tomotoes, equalling 35 calories. I thought I could eat 10 of these a day and still come in at 350 calorie DDs. They're big 2 fisted sandwichs!!! Instead of dreading DDs, start thinking of what DD foods there are that make your mouth water, maybe high volume ones. I'm a big believer in "if you can't find a way to make DDs comfortable, you can't do this month in month out." But we're all doing it, so, so can you.
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Old 09-15-2014, 05:28 PM   #6
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This is the start of my second week. Not quite expert! But, what really helped was reading the sticky about DD recipes for ideas. I also wrote down ideas and plans, making a grocery list as I went. I'm armed!!

Water is key!! Drink till you float!!

And that choc cake some kind hearted person brought to work....wrap up a slice to have tomorrow. Then savor!! Guilt free!! Probably the first guilt free cake I've had since childhood. Felt weird and wonderful!
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Old 09-15-2014, 05:57 PM   #7
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back Karen! You can do this. Start higher if you need, but you may surprise yourself and not be a hungry as you think.
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Old 09-15-2014, 06:00 PM   #8
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Hi, ((Karen))! Your ideas sound great, I won't add to them. I'm just so glad to see you back! And completely sure you don't need to be frightened. Best wishes.
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Old 09-16-2014, 03:32 AM   #9
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It's so good to see you again as I've been wondering what happened to you, Karen.

You've got a good, sound, plan to start out with higher DDs and see how you manage with those. If you find that you're losing at that level then stick with it until you need to change or you want to explore what a lower DD might feel like.

It's so good to have you return to JUDDD and I look forward to following your progress.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:04 AM   #10
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Thanks everyone.

I lost well last year on JUDDD for quite a while. Then, I stalled...for 6 months. And no matter what I did, I couldn't get the weight loss started again. So I gave up. And naturally gained it all back.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:19 AM   #11
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Karen, it's not the same magnitude, but a number of us have had the wretched experience of gaining back the hard-fought-for weigh loss. *raises hand* I strayed because I got demotivated after a 16 week plateau, and, instead of being content to keep my losses, I gained back too much of the weight before I came to my senses (and, tbh, some major life issues resolved - and they hadn't helped). (You stalled for 6 months - I'm so impressed that you kept it together for that time.)

Straying into the long grass by ourselves rarely helps. Please keep checking in with us. And, we need to celebrate maintaining our losses even when we're deeply frustrated by our plateaus because we're trying to impose our own timetable on a process that is not wholly predictable.

Best wishes for a liveable, enjoyable, life with JUDDD - and one where you meet your health and other goals.
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:48 AM   #12
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Good to see you again Karen! You have a good plan. Don't expect yourself to dive in the first day and do a "perfect" DD (what is perfect anyway?). Success is making it through the day with significantly less calories than you would normally eat. So 600, 900, even 1200 if you normally eat 3000. It's a starting place. Plenty of time to develop the DD muscles you had before again.

Good luck to you, my friend!
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Old 09-16-2014, 12:00 PM   #13
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Welcome back, Karen!! You've got some great advice here.
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Old 09-16-2014, 03:16 PM   #14
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Looks like I'm finishing the day right at 1000 calories.

Higher than what I wanted but it'll have to do for today.
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Old 09-17-2014, 02:55 AM   #15
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Looks like I'm finishing the day right at 1000 calories.

Higher than what I wanted but it'll have to do for today.
I'm assuming that it still has a stronger resemblance to a DD than an UD so that's a good start.
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Old 09-17-2014, 04:07 AM   #16
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1000 calories for your first return DD is fine. Some of us do not learn to swim by diving into the deep end of the pool. I bet in a week you will be down from that number!
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Old 09-17-2014, 06:10 AM   #17
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I'm assuming that it still has a stronger resemblance to a DD than an UD so that's a good start.
My UD calories are 2662 so I guess 1000 would still be considered a DD.
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:19 AM   #18
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