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Old 04-02-2014, 02:41 PM   #1
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JUDDD Calculator % Question

Do any of you use or have used in the past the 45% calculation for weight loss? Would using the higher DD number really produce any loss?

I just started back with JUDDD, today being my 2nd DD, and I'm already feeling resentful of the lack of calories. For some reason I can manage to do 5 days in a row of VLC, albeit NOT healthy to do that many in a row, but the EOD or 4:3 rotations make me feel deprived and I'm not sure why

I love Dawn's experiment with the TDEE and I'd really love to move in that direction but every weekend is and has been so UUAD that I'm thinking that I'd end up gaining weight if I used that method...
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:08 PM   #2
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I often have 600 cal DD which is around 35-40% for me and I'm losing. Yesterday I was at 45% and my weight stayed the same but I lost a pound the day before after an UD.

I think the only way you'll know if it works for you is to try it.
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:22 PM   #3
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I agree with Sammyann. You can try and see what works for you. Last year I stalled and raised my calories and started losing again. I really do wonder whether our bodies rebel after a time of severe caloric restriction. If you're resenting it, this might be the answer for you. Good luck!
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Old 04-02-2014, 06:39 PM   #4
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When I called goal I had to eat above 45% on most DDs to stop losing.

Try it. The only way to find out what works best for you is to experiment.
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Old 04-02-2014, 06:42 PM   #5
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:52 PM   #6
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I think this should work! You would be eating maintenance cals one day and just under 1/2 of maintenance calories the next. I just plugged in my information on the calculator, and for me this should be exactly a 3500 calories a week cut. Actually, I think this is a great plan. If you try it, please keep us posted! Also, you may not be as likely to have UUADs if you are not feeling as calorie deprived.
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Do any of you use or have used in the past the 45% calculation for weight loss? Would using the higher DD number really produce any loss?
I took a planned diet break last May using 45% DD numbers for maintenance and to cut a long story short, I never did go back to WLM as I lost my last 3 lbs doing that and reached my 130lbs goal and lost another three, down to 127lbs, using those numbers (approx.).

I've long wanted someone to try the 45% numbers so shall be interested to watch your progress. Always remember that you can slide down or up, as suits you, for DD numbers altho' we do recommend keeping at least a 1000kcal spread between your DD and UD numbers: I believe I had an epiphany.
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Old 04-03-2014, 02:21 AM   #8
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This actually isn't a bad idea. I've been struggling with UUADs (most likely linked to too many carbs on UDs). I've been toying with the idea of going back to NK but incorporating a JUDDD element. On DDs I feel like I just cannot exercise, but I know I need that to feel better. If I could have more cals on my DDs I might be able to make that work.
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Old 04-03-2014, 11:07 AM   #9
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Thanks to everyone who replied! I'm going to eat at or below the 45% today but then the next 3 days will be free days since my kids are on spring break and tomorrow we are starting our long weekend away. I will officially begin my experiment on Monday and see how it goes

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Old 04-03-2014, 11:11 AM   #10
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I think this should work! You would be eating maintenance cals one day and just under 1/2 of maintenance calories the next. I just plugged in my information on the calculator, and for me this should be exactly a 3500 calories a week cut. Actually, I think this is a great plan. If you try it, please keep us posted! Also, you may not be as likely to have UUADs if you are not feeling as calorie deprived.
wow! what a great post, Chris!

I never really thought of it that way. So, I plugged in my numbers and figured out the difference between what my maintenance numbers at 50% would mean and then what I'm doing right now at 20%.

It came out to a 4200 calorie deficit per week. I've been losing on average -1.3 pounds per week since my restart on January 1st (subtracting my two vacation weeks where I lost nothing), so I can now see mathematically why this is working so well for me!

I've lost 15.6 pounds exactly in 12 weeks of JUDDDing. Cool. I need to keep doing this!
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Old 04-04-2014, 10:16 AM   #11
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I am really starting to believe that variety is the key here. Mixing up higher and lower calorie UD and DDs (and for how long without a change) as well as purposefully enjoying the odd UUAD may work better over time than just straight UD/DD. Varying exercise styles, duration and intensity levels would also factor in. This, I think, will help prevent lowered metabolisms in the long run. Or maybe it won't, but that'd be good to know too.

We need some data though. Maybe if I get energetic (or someone else does!) we could design a survey.

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Old 04-06-2014, 10:14 AM   #12
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My UD's are supposed to be 1550 and 25% DD 389. At 30% I go up to 467. What if I don't eat up to 1555? I would have to eat a burger and fries to get that high, LOL. It's confusing. Do I eat 1555 every other day, and add a MD day in at about 1200, which would be a total of 5865 for 4 days. If eating at 30% that would be 1401 for three days and a 4464 weekly deficit. And then again are most of you eating fairly LC or a mix? Monday is my first DD in a long time and I am seriously trying to get this right. Many of you, like Yam Yam, have had such a great success. Nice going! I dunno.
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Old 04-06-2014, 10:22 AM   #13
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Welcome back, SuzeQ. I am not doing low carb. I eat water ever I want. I do try to eat all of my ud calories. Some days that is easy and others is a little harder.
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Old 04-06-2014, 10:56 AM   #14
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I am so tired of people saying that under 1200 cals/day it is starvation. For instance, Medifast program uses 800-1000 cals/day and 80-100 carbs. Now granted I don't do Medifast but there are many people who can't lose on 1200+ a day. Today is an UD for me and I am trying to get to 1555, but have to add in rice to do it, which I love, but it brings my carbs up to about 110. What say you?
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I don't count carbs at all. I have no idea how many I eat, but plenty I'm sure.
My UD is also 1550, but I don't have trouble reaching that number. Yes, I can get by on less, but why? I mean, JUDDD allows for it with the UD/DD rotation. JUDDD is so sustainable with the filling UD off setting the low DD.
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Carly: What is your DD number and have you pretty much stuck to the numbers? You've really done well. JUDDD has worked for you . Such an inspiration Carly!

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Old 04-06-2014, 04:14 PM   #17
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What is your typical menu, Suzy? To me, 1500 is nothing lol. I don't even need burgers or fries to get to it, but I do eat that sometimes.
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Carly: What is your DD number and have you pretty much stuck to the numbers? You've really done well. JUDDD has worked for you . Such an inspiration Carly!
On DD I try to stay under 250. I have coffee during the day for anywhere from 30-100 calories and otherwise I fast till a bedtime snack at 9:30pm. For that bedtime snack I may have a salad for 70 calories and an 80 calorie yogurt so 150 for my bedtime snack. I have several go to bedtime snacks depending on how cold I am or how much time I have to prep the food.

The salad can take a little time since I cut everything fresh that day. So slicing cucumber, celery, lettuce, pickles, etc... and weighing everything as I go takes more time than half a can of Progresso Light soup. Also the salad sometimes makes me colder when I'm freezing.

I always have a pack of Kim's Deli Pops so I can have 3 of those with a laughing cow light wedge for 65 calories.
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Old 04-06-2014, 05:01 PM   #19
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Cindy, I usually come in under 1500, but if I eat up I can get there. Even just adding rice or potatoes to a dinner meal does a bump, or white wine. Don't usually eat desserts but if I have some cookies around there you go!
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Well, I don't count carbs and I do eat desserts most of the time. Typically, I will have 2 eggs and bacon, if I eat breakfast (240), then sometimes a frozen meal for lunch (300-400), snacks (300), and then dinner might be 500-700, dessert probably 400...if I have wine I'm over, and if I stick rigidly to the above plan I'm doing well. Sometimes I'm at 1000 or more before I even leave work and don't feel I've overeaten at all...I need your problem lol!
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