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Old 04-01-2014, 04:37 AM   #1
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Old 04-01-2014, 07:42 AM   #2
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Yay! April means we are closing in on warmer weather and putting the mittens away.

Took my starting weight and waist measurement this morning. Knowing I posted here yesterday definately got me started on the right foot today.
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Hello!!

I've been lurking this forum for the last few days as I recently started JUDDD and whenever I searched for support related sites for this WOE, this site continued to come up.

I'm excited for beginning my journey with JUDDD & I feel like it would definitely suit my lifestyle more than trying to restrict on a daily basis.

However, I think the hardest part for me is actually eating all the calories for my UD. I'm used to eating 1300-1400 calories, so increasing to the 2000-2200 range definitely is playing some mind games. How did you all adjust to eating the higher number of calories without freaking out? (Or is that just me...?)
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Delyn, many of us came from eating that much daily, so it wasn't too hard to keep eating that many calories every other day! For those that have trouble making it to their UD calories, I always recommend healthy, calorie-dense foods: nuts, cheese, butter, nut butters, avocado, mayo, fattier cuts of meat, etc. Or, if you want to throw all caution to the wind, you could make up the calories in chocolate and wine. That's what I do.
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Yay! April means we are closing in on warmer weather and putting the mittens away.

Took my starting weight and waist measurement this morning. Knowing I posted here yesterday definately got me started on the right foot today.
Hi!! I remember you and your kindness from my previous JUDDD journey!
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Hello!!

I've been lurking this forum for the last few days as I recently started JUDDD and whenever I searched for support related sites for this WOE, this site continued to come up.

I'm excited for beginning my journey with JUDDD & I feel like it would definitely suit my lifestyle more than trying to restrict on a daily basis.

However, I think the hardest part for me is actually eating all the calories for my UD. I'm used to eating 1300-1400 calories, so increasing to the 2000-2200 range definitely is playing some mind games. How did you all adjust to eating the higher number of calories without freaking out? (Or is that just me...?)
Part of my April plan is to eat a few more calories. I have really been restricting and I know where that may lead me!
JUDDD is not meant to be a sacrifice, IMO. It is meant to be a tool for reducing weight while LIVING life. (Self talk here LOL)
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following book recommendations for dd?

I'm now on my third day as a JUDD (today is my 2nd up day).

I'm curious if the people who have done this for a while followed the recommendations in the book to cut to 20% on dd for only the first two weeks in order to activate SIRT1 and go up to 25-30% for the rest of their weight loss journey.

Or did the majority simply pick a percentage and stick with it -- adjusting the number of calories as they lost weight.

at 20% my calories are 2089/418
at 25% my calories are 2089/522
at 30% my calories are 2089/627

obviously I'd like to keep my dd calories as high as possible if i still means I'd lose.
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Seems like others were all over the place but some of those who reached maintenance were pretty relogious about theit Dd calories. t has been a while but I think he suggested rounding off to 500 the first two weeks for ease getting into rotations. Also suggested sticking to meal replacement shakes to keep iy simple. I have protein ppwder but will also use broth based soups for warmth. Staying below 500 was a problem for me previously. Will see how this restart goes. You jave higher calculations. Good luck.

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Old 04-01-2014, 11:10 AM   #10
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Hello!!

I've been lurking this forum for the last few days as I recently started JUDDD and whenever I searched for support related sites for this WOE, this site continued to come up.

I'm excited for beginning my journey with JUDDD & I feel like it would definitely suit my lifestyle more than trying to restrict on a daily basis.

However, I think the hardest part for me is actually eating all the calories for my UD. I'm used to eating 1300-1400 calories, so increasing to the 2000-2200 range definitely is playing some mind games. How did you all adjust to eating the higher number of calories without freaking out? (Or is that just me...?)
Dawn gave you some great advice already.

I just wanted to add that Dr. J does stress the importance of DDs for the first two weeks to get the SIRT1 gene activated and the sirtuin enzymes flowing.

Focus on keeping your DDs under control and I think your UDs will work out. I feel like JUDDD is really regulating my appetite. I'm not hungry in the mornings on UDs, so I don't make myself eat when I'm not hungry. Around 1 pm I sense real hunger, not head hunger and then I just follow my appetite, try to get in plenty of protein and I have no problem eating 2000 calories which is my UD number.

Good luck! You will do great!
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:16 AM   #11
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I'm now on my third day as a JUDD (today is my 2nd up day).

I'm curious if the people who have done this for a while followed the recommendations in the book to cut to 20% on dd for only the first two weeks in order to activate SIRT1 and go up to 25-30% for the rest of their weight loss journey.

Or did the majority simply pick a percentage and stick with it -- adjusting the number of calories as they lost weight.

at 20% my calories are 2089/418
at 25% my calories are 2089/522
at 30% my calories are 2089/627

obviously I'd like to keep my dd calories as high as possible if i still means I'd lose.
Congratulations on your successful JUDDD start!

Everyone is different for sure. That's what's so Great about this WOE. Some JUDDDers have found it difficult to start out as low as 500 so they started at 800 calories and worked their way down. A few never had to go lower.

Personally, I started out at 20% because a lot of experienced JUDDDers recommended it. (little or no exercise) and I've stuck with that number and plan to. My DD number is 400 but I try to go lower when I can. I've had DDs as high as 700 and still count them as DDs. It's there if I need it.

For me, if I eat solid food early in the day, it makes me hungry all day. You have to experiment with this. So, I have coffee in the morning and wait as long as I can to eat. I've had a few DDs as low as 195 but I'm usually somewhere around 300 plus or minus a few.

I'm sure you will get a lot of fine input from others.

Good luck and welcome, welcome!!
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I'm now on my third day as a JUDD (today is my 2nd up day).

I'm curious if the people who have done this for a while followed the recommendations in the book to cut to 20% on dd for only the first two weeks in order to activate SIRT1 and go up to 25-30% for the rest of their weight loss journey.

Or did the majority simply pick a percentage and stick with it -- adjusting the number of calories as they lost weight.

at 20% my calories are 2089/418
at 25% my calories are 2089/522
at 30% my calories are 2089/627

obviously I'd like to keep my dd calories as high as possible if i still means I'd lose.
I've never read the book, so I had no idea he suggested the bolded. Around here it seems highly individualized, but I've always been more successful the lower I can get my DD number. In part because it helps me keep my UD numbers in check too.

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I actually had no problem eating to 418 yesterday (417 according to My f1tness pal app). I was a little hungry in spurts but it was manageable.
Had black coffee for breakfast and my first meal of baked potato with malt vinegar and half a grapefruit with Splenda at 2:30. yum.
Tuna from a pouch with two slices of 35 calorie white bread at 5:30-which tasted awful and dry btw. never again. lol.
I then had a 100 calorie breakstones cottage cheese with strawberries. at about 7pm.

The problem came when i was trying to go to sleep at about 11pm and got super hungry. I wanted to eat something to calm my growling tummy but I just fought through it because I'd already eaten all of my calories for the day. I would have loved to have a handful of almonds or something.

Any tips from experienced JUDDERers on combating nighttime hunger on down days?
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Hello!!

I've been lurking this forum for the last few days as I recently started JUDDD and whenever I searched for support related sites for this WOE, this site continued to come up.

I'm excited for beginning my journey with JUDDD & I feel like it would definitely suit my lifestyle more than trying to restrict on a daily basis.

However, I think the hardest part for me is actually eating all the calories for my UD. I'm used to eating 1300-1400 calories, so increasing to the 2000-2200 range definitely is playing some mind games. How did you all adjust to eating the higher number of calories without freaking out? (Or is that just me...?)
Delyn! I'm so glad you've found us and decided to join in. It's a great group here with lots of support to offer.

I have never had much trouble getting in all my calories. I really do like to eat and to feel satisfied. Try to remember when it feels hard to eat that much that you're still looking at a caloric deficit when you look at your 2 day average. That seems to ease the mind a bit.

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I'm now on my third day as a JUDD (today is my 2nd up day).

I'm curious if the people who have done this for a while followed the recommendations in the book to cut to 20% on dd for only the first two weeks in order to activate SIRT1 and go up to 25-30% for the rest of their weight loss journey.

Or did the majority simply pick a percentage and stick with it -- adjusting the number of calories as they lost weight.

at 20% my calories are 2089/418
at 25% my calories are 2089/522
at 30% my calories are 2089/627

obviously I'd like to keep my dd calories as high as possible if i still means I'd lose.
A few months ago I would have told you to use the 20% number, and that may be the smartest thing to do. Lately I feel like your wanting to keep cals as high as possible while still losing is best. I think I really caused my metabolism to slow down and I plateaued. You'll have to see what works best for you and stick with it! Good luck!
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to JUDDD. Some JUDDD BUDDs find that the hunger disappears over time. Others cope by saving 50kcals or so to allow them to have a pre-bed snack of (say) cucumber/celery with a light Laughing Cow wedge, a serving of broth with eggwhite drops, or an (unsweetened) almond milk cocoa drink with SF syrup.
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Yeah, I realized that going with maybe more calorie dense foods would help me get to my daily goal. Also, like some mentioned it helped to take an average of my DD & UD combined. Thanks for all the support! :0)
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I've been lurking this forum for the last few days as I recently started JUDDD and whenever I searched for support related sites for this WOE, this site continued to come up.
! In my opinion you found the best place on the internet period! I love my JUDDD buds!

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I'm now on my third day as a JUDD (today is my 2nd up day).

I'm curious if the people who have done this for a while followed the recommendations in the book to cut to 20% on dd for only the first two weeks in order to activate SIRT1 and go up to 25-30% for the rest of their weight loss journey.
I always kept DD to 20% or below. I still do in maintenance, but only do 2 DDs per week.

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The problem came when i was trying to go to sleep at about 11pm and got super hungry. I wanted to eat something to calm my growling tummy but I just fought through it because I'd already eaten all of my calories for the day. I would have loved to have a handful of almonds or something.

Any tips from experienced JUDDERers on combating nighttime hunger on down days?
I fast all day till 9:30pm and have a 150-200 calorie bedtime snack. I need a bit of food with my arthritis meds and can't sleep if stomach is growling.
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I actually had no problem eating to 418 yesterday (417 according to My f1tness pal app). I was a little hungry in spurts but it was manageable.
Had black coffee for breakfast and my first meal of baked potato with malt vinegar and half a grapefruit with Splenda at 2:30. yum.
Tuna from a pouch with two slices of 35 calorie white bread at 5:30-which tasted awful and dry btw. never again. lol.
I then had a 100 calorie breakstones cottage cheese with strawberries. at about 7pm.

The problem came when i was trying to go to sleep at about 11pm and got super hungry. I wanted to eat something to calm my growling tummy but I just fought through it because I'd already eaten all of my calories for the day. I would have loved to have a handful of almonds or something.

Any tips from experienced JUDDERers on combating nighttime hunger on down days?
WC: I sooooo relate to what you are talking about. I absolutely cannot go to sleep if I'm hungry. In the beginning my first go round with JUDDD in 2011 I tried to fight through it. But, I was miserable. And, sleep deprived.

Now I save my protein shake until as close to bed time as I can get. It's so satisfying and when I go to bed my tummy is full.

I have read that eating some kind of protein, like yogurt or a protein shake, close to bed time helps with the production of the hormone Leptin and therefore helps with weight loss.

I just know it's working for me and I sleep great now.

My shake is 135 calories and 30 grams of protein.
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It's my second DD and it's a lot harder than my first one. I'm sleepy, lethargic, and a little cranky today. But, I'm planning on having a nice meal tonight with some salmon & veggies, so I have that to look forward to. But definitely looking forward to my UD tomorrow!

Is anyone else combining other forms of fasting with JUDDD? I'm trying to stick to 16/8 as well, but its harder than I thought...
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WC: I sooooo relate to what you are talking about. I absolutely cannot go to sleep if I'm hungry. In the beginning my first go round with JUDDD in 2011 I tried to fight through it. But, I was miserable. And, sleep deprived.

Now I save my protein shake until as close to bed time as I can get. It's so satisfying and when I go to bed my tummy is full.

I have read that eating some kind of protein, like yogurt or a protein shake, close to bed time helps with the production of the hormone Leptin and therefore helps with weight loss.

I just know it's working for me and I sleep great now.

My shake is 135 calories and 30 grams of protein.
Great suggestion. I like the idea of a light protein before bed. I'll try that tomorrow--my 2nd DD. Hopefully it'll help with sleep.
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Is anyone else combining other forms of fasting with JUDDD? I'm trying to stick to 16/8 as well, but its harder than I thought...
It's tricky enough to get the rotations down so maybe you want to concentrate on that at the moment and then tweak with a fasting window after induction, when you might have the SIRT1s to assist you?

Dawn/KeirasMom is experimenting with a fasting window but she's been in maintenance for a while.

Carly doesn't officially have a fasting window but her typical eating schedule resembles one
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Exactly what SS said. I don't follow an eating window 100%, but I almost never eat before 1pm or 2pm on UDs and many times wait till dinner to start eating. On DDs I eat 1 small bedtime snack.
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Hi all!

I've been doing this JUDDD since last Monday. I didn't want to pop in until I knew I had a good chance of keeping with it. It's going great! I don't know why I overlooked JUDDD before but wow! This is the one for me! And seeing so many of you losing so great and maintaining is encouraging too. ........and I can eat what I want every other day! I'm so happy. Lol. I did Atkins a couple of times and lost 30-40 pds then gained it all bk. I felt deprived with my sweets. But I can have them in moderation now. I also tried IF and am using it loosely with JUDDD too. I'm 192 right now. So I lost 7.5 pds since last Monday. I'm 52 and sedentary. I calculated my calories in the 3000 range on UDs. Can anyone that's my size give me some numbers on how much you lost on avg weekly after the two week induction? I know I won't lose 7 ea wk. id just like to see if anyone lost more than 2 pds per wk. hehe. I'm inpatient! Ty all for sharing your journey. It's been encouraging for me reading it all!

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Cici, so how did your first DD go?

Havefaith9! Isn't it wonderful to find a plan that just fits? I'm so glad you're loving it, and boy are you having great results. Without knowing your height, we can't verify your calories. 3000 sounds high (from the calculator standpoint) for your weight and age, but it's obviously working for you, so maybe you should keep doing just what you're doing and only lower just 100 or 200 when you hit a true stall. Which we usually mean no loss at all for at least 2, or more like 4 weeks, and no inches lost. Good luck to you, and I'd say keep eating as may calories as you can as long as you're losing well!
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