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Old 02-09-2014, 04:44 PM   #1
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Food sensitivites - how did you know?

It seems like there is a lot of mention around the threads about food sensitivities. I was hoping we could compile one place for stories and advice.

Specifically - what symptoms did you have that lead you to believe you had a food sensitivity and what did you do to go about identifying what you were sensitive to.

I'm not just looking for classic allergies but would love to hear from those who have determined they're carb sensitive, trigger foods for binging, etc as I think those are important as well.

Personally, I've noticed recently that, after some meals, I will get a markedly elevated heart rate. Seems like those are meals that are heavy in carbs (like a bowl of popcorn - - all carbs). I remember Dawn talking about reading somewhere tracking heart rate after eating specific foods but of course I can't find the original post talking about this. (Was it trying to eliminate gluten for you and Keira? I can't remember.) And the recent discovery that Sirtain is unable to eat eggs...

Thanks everyone in advance for chiming in. We know some foods act as triggers for binging, we know some foods cause inflammation making it hard to lose weight. Lets see if we can compile our data to help out anyone who might be struggling, and to document our own struggles with trying to identify triggers.
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Keira and I did the pulse test after eliminating gluten for a week or two (it's been a while and I can't really remember). We also used the pulse test to check for egg and dairy sensitivities, though we didn't really eliminate them beforehand (just overnight fasting), so it might not have been accurate. I did it because Keira gets rashes and I was worried it could be related to gluten. I was reading Wheat Belly at the time, and am happy that neither of us appear to be sensitive.

It's the Coca Pulse Test and if you Google, there will be plenty of links.
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Great thread Yennie- its something I've been thinking/reading a lot about myself.

Dawn, did you identify any sensitivities with the pulse test?
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I have a very mild reaction to peanuts. If I avoid them for a few months and then eat some the next day my mood will be up. But continue eating them for a few days and I slowly develop a really foul mood.
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That pulse test is fascinating!

I gave up wheat years ago after listening to a friend list her improved symptoms after she did. I had a 10 year case of rosacea that cleared up, and immediately lost 5 lbs of "bloat" and a shoe size. Migraines went from once every three months to maybe once a year. My most recent one didn't hurt. I had the visual disturbance, upset stomach and a mild ache, but not the screaming, debilitating pain.

I recently gave up dairy and found it was causing asthma that came on suddenly about 3 years ago. Another 5 lbs of bloat gone within a few days.

Before giving up dairy I had noticed that my pulse had gotten erratic. Sometimes I would be sitting in my chair in the evening, completely relaxed, and my pulse would be 100. Accidental gluten, too much sugar, caffeine? I couldn't make a connection. Since I quit dairy..... a nice normal pulse in the low 70s.
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Reading the book "Why do I still have thyroid symptoms" is what led me to look into food intolerance as the reason behind all of my symptoms. I believe the pulse test is a good tool and keeping a food log is helpful.Symptoms don't always show up right away so you may eat something and 2-3 days later be having symptoms so you have to pay careful attention. I was told in the case of gluten intolerance that you can have symptoms up to 6 months after just one exposure so I don't know about other food intolerance but you just never know if that food you ate last week causes the symptoms you are suddenly having today. It's a tricky thing but well worth it to log and figure it out.
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I have a very rare problem with a food additive that years ago was put in all enriched flour. Darn stuff made me irritable, depressed and more hungry and being a person who stutters it made my stuttering about 5x worse. I would go do low carb and my depression, stuttering and irritability would just about vanish till I fell off the wagon. For the longest time I though it was the carbs till I found it was the synthetic vitamin B1 they put back in flower back then. Then in about 1980 this form of B1 ( thiamin HCL ) was slowly eased out of foods and replaced with thiamin mononitrate. Man this sure made life easier for me as it causes me no problems in fact it even helps reduce my stuttering.
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Great thread Yennie- its something I've been thinking/reading a lot about myself.

Dawn, did you identify any sensitivities with the pulse test?
Nothing. There was a tiny reaction to milk, on my part, but barely noticeable, and I rarely have straight milk anyway, so I didn't worry about it. Keira was fine with everything. I expected the milk thing. My father is allergic to milk, not lactose intolerant. He actually has a histamine response. My brother is sensitive, and I find if I have a lot of dairy, or drink a glass of milk by itself, I have some gut issues.
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I've had stomach problems my whole life. When I went low carb many years ago, I would eat quite a few low carb wraps and I started to notice my stomach got worse after eating a wrap (which are made from almost pure gluten). I had read here and there about gluten sensitivity and made the connection that maybe my stomach problems could be traced to that.

I eliminated all gluten out of my diet (and never cheated). I felt a lot better almost immediately. At one point after about three months, I suddenly felt terrible and had a recurrence of my old symptoms. I traced it back to eating chili the day before that I thought was safe but actually had wheat in it. That was about as close to a blind test as I could do but it confirmed for me that I couldn't eat gluten.

A couple of years ago, I started to suspect that my allergy and sinus symptoms were food related. After some research, it seemed most likely that it was related to sulfites. I completely fasted for two days and then added in plain ground beef. When I didn't react to that, I ate just that for a couple of days and then added in eggs. No reactions to eggs either, so next was plain yogurt. I was fine there, so after two days, I tried cheese. I was instantly stuffed up and sneezing.

Cheese was out, so I went back to baseline (beef, eggs and plain yogurt) for a couple of days until the allergies cleared up. I don't remember what was next but it was something made from processed corn (might have been Bottlecaps, which are almost pure corn - dextrose, maltodextrose). I was again instantly stuffed up and sneezing.

I was tired of the experiment by then so stopped, but it showed me enough to realize that I was probably sensitive to sulfites. I try to avoid the main sources but am not 100% like I am with gluten.

One thing that I haven't been able to trace yet is that sometimes after I eat, my lips and tongue will be numb for awhile. I haven't found any rhyme or reason to it yet. It's mostly just weird and not much of a worry at this point.

Finally, just to add to the weirdness, when I eat a ripe banana, it makes me cough. It's instant, like after the first bite. It's also only while eating it. I thought it was super weird but after Googling about it, it appears it isn't that rare.
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Okay, here's a stupid question. How would you keep any liquid or AS on your tongue long enough to get a reading or is that something that would "register" fairly quick? Interesting test and I'm going to try it. I've never had any food allergies, other than knowing eating carbs makes me want more.
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Interesting thread! This weekend I had some toasted oats cereal with dried fruit. A few minutes later my heart was racing. The reaction may have been to the sugar the fruit was sweetened with or the grains. I'm going to retest just the cereal to see if I get the same response and then just the cranberry in case it was a reaction to both.
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I did the pulse test on eggs this morning..... nothing. Perfectly normal when I held them in my mouth, at 30 minutes and an hour.

Later I ate a real wheat brownie. Before eating it my pulse was 68-70 consistently. After holding it in my mouth for 30 seconds it went to 78. 30 minutes after eating it my pulse was 85 and after an hour it was 86. I probably should have done plain bread or something like that, but I have checked my pulse after sugar before be because I thought it was raising it.

When my pulse goes back to normal I am going to try yogurt.
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My mother and one of my son's has food intolerances to food preservatives. Citric acid, sodium citrate, some of the other additives bother them too. I can eat most of them and don't get as ill as they do but certainly feel better when I don't eat processed foods. It did take us a while to figure out the intolerances as depending on the additives sometimes things would bother us and sometimes they wouldn't. It wasn't until we looked at the additives instead of the foods that it all fell into place for us.
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Very interesting thread. I most certainly have the increased heart rate/pounding after over-indulging in carbs. Especially sugar. I mostly notice it when I go to bed and I can feel my heartbeat very strongly (?) and hear it in my ears.

The only thing I've ever had a sudden and dramatic reaction to is honeydew melon. I eat it, and within 30 minutes or less, I literally have no voice. Haven't had it since I figured it out. I'm sure there are those who would love to feed me honeydew to get me to shut up!
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I am especially interested now as we're keeping a food journal for the monkey to try to figure out what is setting off his episodes of vomiting. Increasing in frequency, ALWAYS while or immediately after eating. We've eliminated dairy with no results (that was actually over the summer when he was having severe diarrhea as well), tried rantidine (dumb idea but our regular pediatrician was out of the office), plain radiographs (x-rays) normal, CBC and the celiac IgA tests also normal. Next step after a food journal to try to identify triggers is referral to pediatric GI specialist and, I imagine, an upper GI with contrast. Won't that be fun in an almost 4 year old?
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When I was young, I threw up a LOT! You name it, I would throw up. My mom decided it was nerves. I can remember often having a tummy ache. Again, we all just thought I had a touchy stomach, much like my Grandma. Fast forward to my mid 30's. I started LC in 2002, felt great. LC stalled me, so I added carbs back in. I would feel horrible. Awful fatigue, horribly stomach cramps. They tested me for everything. My gall bladder was non functioning, we took that out thinking it would solve everything. It helped the horribly painful attacks, but not the rest. A friend was reading a magazine article on Celiac and faxed me a copy of it immediately and said, I THINK YOU HAVE THIS!

I called the DR that day and got tested. Sure enough, I DID! If I get any gluten, I am miserable. I am super cautious and my children are even aware of cross contamination issues. They are strick with what they do. I tend to just have 2 of things that may cause issues. Peanut butter, butter, those type things.

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Poor little guy. I research a bit about food allergies and from what I have read the Celiacs tests are often wrong. Have you taken him off gluten to test?
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For me it was two things: #1 was constant joint pain and inflammation. I exercise, but I'm not in extreme sports or anything, there was no reason why I was so constantly injuring myself: torn MCL, tendonitis in my elbow, frozen shoulder, plantar fasciitis... you name it, I wrecked it. I saw many specialists, doctors, chiropractors, physio therapists, massage therapists, etc. They all just kept saying that I need to "take it easy" and all that. But I don't want to take it easy! I want to be fit!

The Second thing was a sudden onset at around 31 of a whole bunch of allergies. I went from allergic only to penicillin, to allergic to all fruit except berries, citrus and bananas, allergic to hazelnuts, allergic to all antibiotics (eeesh!).

So I went to a Naturopathic Doctor. She is AMAZING!!! so knowledgeable. She put me on an elimination diet last summer (not fun at all!), but it was somewhat inconclusive, so she did a blood test that tests for antibodies to 200 of the most common sensitivities. My results were clear: I had antibodies to eggs like crazy! both whites and yolks. Bummer. It means that your body is reacting to that food like it is an illness, and therefore creating antibodies against it. Just like it would to a flu.

So now I know, and haven't had eggs since last September. My NP says that I might be able to eat them again someday. She wanted me to cut them out for at least 6 months, and I am on a variety of pro-biotics and omega-3s to try to heal my gut. So in a couple months she will have me add eggs back all at once. Like eat them three times a day for three days, and we see how my body reacts. I have a feeling it will not be a good reaction. We'll see.

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Okay, here's a stupid question. How would you keep any liquid or AS on your tongue long enough to get a reading or is that something that would "register" fairly quick? Interesting test and I'm going to try it. I've never had any food allergies, other than knowing eating carbs makes me want more.
Anyone? Anyone?
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Have enough liquid to hold it in your mouth like mouthwash, swish or whatever?
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Have enough liquid to hold it in your mouth like mouthwash, swish or whatever?
That's what I was thinking, because it makes total sense and is the only real answer. I tried the test with some of my YoCheese Pudding yesterday with just the recommended amount. Then I got to thinking about trying it with cream, or AS. But that stuff would just dissolve and I think that's what really prompted the (stupid) question. I'll have to try liquids at home. When I tried the yogurt, the phone rang of course, after barely ringing all day!! Oh, and my pulse didn't change with my beloved yogurt, thank goodness!!
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I definitely have sensitivities. But to what?

I have to go to a gastro at some point. I keep having "gurgles" from too much bile in the gut (TMI, sorry) and it's not pretty. I've narrowed it down to either milk (but oddly enough not cheese or cream) or sugar. And have noticed it takes at least 24 hours to hit my system. If its milk, that's manageable. I'll just have to say bye bye to lattes But if it's sugar? Oh gosh. I may commit myself.
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I definitely have sensitivities. But to what?

I have to go to a gastro at some point. I keep having "gurgles" from too much bile in the gut (TMI, sorry) and it's not pretty. I've narrowed it down to either milk (but oddly enough not cheese or cream) or sugar. And have noticed it takes at least 24 hours to hit my system. If its milk, that's manageable. I'll just have to say bye bye to lattes But if it's sugar? Oh gosh. I may commit myself.
Maybe it's the coffee? Does it do it if you have a plain black coffee?
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I definitely have sensitivities. But to what?

I have to go to a gastro at some point. I keep having "gurgles" from too much bile in the gut (TMI, sorry) and it's not pretty. I've narrowed it down to either milk (but oddly enough not cheese or cream) or sugar. And have noticed it takes at least 24 hours to hit my system. If its milk, that's manageable. I'll just have to say bye bye to lattes But if it's sugar? Oh gosh. I may commit myself.
I'm fine with cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc., but straight milk gets me, and too much cream.
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I'm fine with milk, cream, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc but any aged dairy gets me so most cheeses are out.
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Maybe it's the coffee? Does it do it if you have a plain black coffee?
Nope, plain coffee i'm totally okay with. Even coffee w/ almond or soy milk.

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I'm fine with cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc., but straight milk gets me, and too much cream.
I haven't had "too much" cream (is there such a thing?), but even if I over do the HWC, no issues. Not like this anyway.

But the only milk I ever drink is in lattes. With sugary sweet syrupy goodness. Sooo thats why i thought maybe it was the sugar.
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For me it was two things: #1 was constant joint pain and inflammation. I exercise, but I'm not in extreme sports or anything, there was no reason why I was so constantly injuring myself: torn MCL, tendonitis in my elbow, frozen shoulder, plantar fasciitis... you name it, I wrecked it. I saw many specialists, doctors, chiropractors, physio therapists, massage therapists, etc. They all just kept saying that I need to "take it easy" and all that. But I don't want to take it easy! I want to be fit!

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So now I know, and haven't had eggs since last September. My NP says that I might be able to eat them again someday. She wanted me to cut them out for at least 6 months, and I am on a variety of pro-biotics and omega-3s to try to heal my gut. So in a couple months she will have me add eggs back all at once. Like eat them three times a day for three days, and we see how my body reacts. I have a feeling it will not be a good reaction. We'll see.

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Poor little guy. I research a bit about food allergies and from what I have read the Celiacs tests are often wrong. Have you taken him off gluten to test?
We have not yet, no. We're journaling first before we start eliminating again. To try to give us a place to start.
Ended up talking to one of his teachers today about his issues, because I needed to know what they had for snack and to give her a bit of a heads up in case he started in again at snack time. Turns out she had the same problem as a kid, still does. They did a bunch of tests and determined her sphincter at the bottom of her esophagus/top of her stomach (cardia) does not have the right muscles. It never closes properly. She's been able to identify some trigger foods for herself. Sounds much like whats going on with my guy. So we'll see.

For those of you who eliminated gluten, how long until you saw results?
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For those of you who eliminated gluten, how long until you saw results?
Almost right away for me and it got progressively better as time went on.

We took our boys off of gluten seven years ago, when they were 9 and 12 and it made a giant difference with them. After about three months, we could easily tell when they cheated or accidentally got glutened. After about a year, they wouldn't cheat anymore, because it made them feel so bad.
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I am especially interested now as we're keeping a food journal for the monkey to try to figure out what is setting off his episodes of vomiting. Increasing in frequency, ALWAYS while or immediately after eating. We've eliminated dairy with no results (that was actually over the summer when he was having severe diarrhea as well), tried rantidine (dumb idea but our regular pediatrician was out of the office), plain radiographs (x-rays) normal, CBC and the celiac IgA tests also normal. Next step after a food journal to try to identify triggers is referral to pediatric GI specialist and, I imagine, an upper GI with contrast. Won't that be fun in an almost 4 year old?
I feel for you. Keira has VUR (vesico-ureteral reflux) and has had several voiding cystograms, the first one when she was around 9 months old IIRC, and the last when she was 2 1/2. She needs another one, but hasn't had an infection since she had surgery (right after her 2nd birthday), so I really don't want to put her through that again if I can avoid it. It's heartbreaking when you know you're doing what's best for your child, but they can't really understand why you have to hurt them to make them better.
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