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Old 02-03-2014, 10:53 PM   #1
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36hr dd?

I haven't read Dr J.'s book, just got the gist of how to do the diet from his site, so I'm not familiar with the down day needing to be 36hrs. I work in direct care and my shifts 3 days a week are from 3pm until 7am the next day. With being on my feet overnight for 16 hrs I really can't sustain enough energy on my down days, so what I've been doing is making them at least 24 hours (for example I will stop eating at 8pm on an up day and will maintain my 412 calories until midnight of the down day. But then midnight (beginning of my up day) I usually will snack to keep my energy through the night as I'm burning lots of calories.

I know it's not ideal but it's the only way I can think of to do Juddd while I'm working my crazy schedule. What do you guys think?
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:10 AM   #2
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I think that sounds fine. JUDDD is very flexible. And who knows, after several months of rotations, you may find it easier to stretch out your fasting period.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:23 AM   #3
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You can but try and as Sitain says, JUDDD is extremely flexible. You have to make it work for you.
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I agree that you need to do what works, but as you get use to JUDDD I would try to stretch your DDs to be more of a 36 hour period if doable. We have all had those thoughts of eating at 12:01am because now it's an UD, but I know if I did that I would not have lost as well as I did.
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:37 AM   #5
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If you're running on a 24 hour clock, it's just another low calorie diet, IMO. If I'm understanding correctly, it seems that your daily consumption would be more steady, and you won't get the benefits of the Up/Down cycle. It may still work for you, but I agree with the others; try to extend your fasts up to the 36 hour mark whenever you're able, and I think you'll be pleased.
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:29 AM   #6
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When you say '36 hour fast' that is the down day, right? Not a complete fast just 500 cals (on induction) during 36 hours???
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:40 AM   #7
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There are so many. Different ways to have fasting hours.
Google sometime. U will read 19 hours up to 36 hour fasting.
They all work sounds like to me.
I'm striding for 19 hour fast myself now a days. Mainly I'm Feeling out maintaining , in hopes of a few more pounds to lose. So far so good for me.
As well I think the shorter amount of time fasted...??Some may lose slower...hope I didn't dream that one up. I 'll look again at that thought.
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:09 AM   #8
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I really think any form of IF is beneficial, so do what works best for you. The 36 hour "fast", meaning 500 (or even a little higher if you need) DDs, may mean faster losses, and more health benefits. I agree with Carly, that you'll probably find your body tolerates longer "fasts" as you go along. Mine sure did.
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:10 AM   #9
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There are so many different forms of IF - the people here on this forum have found the most success with JUDDD, but that doesn't mean it's for everyone.
Some of the different types:
Eat-Stop-Eat (Brad Pilon - just google it). That plan involves several 24 hour fasts each week.
24-on 24-off plans
Eating windows, such as Fast-5, 16:8
5:2 (Dr. Mosely)

If you have an unusual schedule, another one of the plans might work better for you. You might even consider 5:2 which only involves 2 days of fasting per week. Although I don't think I would have lost as well doing just 2 days, many people have been successful with it.
Most of us here would want the effects of true JUDDDing, but if you find another way, that fits your needs, then go for it!
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Old 02-04-2014, 09:55 AM   #10
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When you say '36 hour fast' that is the down day, right? Not a complete fast just 500 cals (on induction) during 36 hours???
Whatever your DD calories are, in a period of 36 hours (give or take) qualifies as a fast with JUDDD. Not necessarily zero calories.
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:06 AM   #11
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In Michael Mosley's book (The 5:2 Diet) they talk about the benefits of doing 24 on and 24 off. It says something about changing things up and having your fast day from 2pm one day until 2pm the next day. Or 7 pm to 7 pm.

I know Dr. J mentions briefly that 36 hours is good, but from all the books I'm reading right now any form of IF is beneficial, will promote good health and insure weight loss.

Obviously we would lose slower on a 5:2 plan but we would still lose.

The most important thing is to experiment, find out what works with your lifestyle, and go for it.

Here is one of the quotes: "Try the two-to-two, fasting not from bedtime to bedtime, but from 2pm until 2pm. After lunch on day one, eat sparingly until a late lunch the following day. That way, you lose weight as you sleep and no single day feels uncomfortably deprived of food. ...Or perhaps fast from supper to supper, which again means that no day is all fast and no fun. The point is that this plan is 'adjust to fit'. "
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:09 AM   #12
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Thank you all for the info!!
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:34 PM   #13
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Thank you ladies I appreciate all your advice. I will really try to extend my down days to 36 hrs. I may have to start drinking coffee because that's the only way I see myself getting through my crazy night shifts on 400 calories.

My next weigh in is at my dr on valentines day and this is the first time in quite awhile I can't wait to step on the scale!
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:29 AM   #14
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You're not really running on only 400 calories, though, since you should be releasing fat from your body and also using it for fuel.

Most people experience an uptick in energy on DDs after the first couple of weeks.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:48 AM   #15
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2-2 sounds great woe.
I'm afraid I would eat until I rolled into bed
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