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Old 04-04-2014, 11:02 AM   #151
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I think I should start checking in here. I don't weigh once a week, but I average my daily weights and it only "counts" once a week.

Average of the week ending...

Start Weight: 223.80
3/9: 220.60
3/16: 217.54
3/23: 217.14
3/30: 217.26

This method has been very helpful to me. I hit a low after my first few days that I haven't seen again. If I wasn't watching my averages I would think I was stalled, but the high bounces are not nearly as high and the low bounces are consistently lower (though not as low as that one day).
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Old 04-04-2014, 11:03 AM   #152
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Thank you all so much for the concerns!

I brought that up to him also but he assured me that because my metabolism is normal, this sort of deficit would be fine. I'm not too worries about him misleading me for fast scale results as this was just a one-time session for rmr and vo2. I am worries that he could just be wrong.

What I wonder is how much of a difference there is between rmr and bmr. My rmr is 1568 but my bmr would be a good bit lower right?

In the meantime, I feel like I should follow all of your advice and at least eat 1568 a day. I'll respond in more detail later.

SS, not sure about this but I would calculate my TDEE by multiplying by 1.3 as I have a desk job and have really only been doing very low intensity elliptical, some yoga, and a few dance classes a week.
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These conversations are fascinating you guys, if a little scary.

Chris, have you already started your new plan of 3 days a week at 35%, 3 days at maintenance and one higher day? If so it's working beautifully for you!
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Old 04-04-2014, 12:03 PM   #154
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Thank you all so much for the concerns!

I brought that up to him also but he assured me that because my metabolism is normal, this sort of deficit would be fine. I'm not too worries about him misleading me for fast scale results as this was just a one-time session for rmr and vo2. I am worries that he could just be wrong.

What I wonder is how much of a difference there is between rmr and bmr. My rmr is 1568 but my bmr would be a good bit lower right?

In the meantime, I feel like I should follow all of your advice and at least eat 1568 a day. I'll respond in more detail later.

SS, not sure about this but I would calculate my TDEE by multiplying by 1.3 as I have a desk job and have really only been doing very low intensity elliptical, some yoga, and a few dance classes a week.

Okay so I researched and looks like there's not much difference between rmr and bmr.

On a side note, At my JUDDD calculations (1750 and 350), I come out at an average of only 1,053/per day. Shouldn't my average be 1568 to meet my rmr?
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Thanks Yam Yam. I hope with recording just once a week instead of every day I can get a better picture of my losses or gains.

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Green, in theory on JUDDD, by having maintenance days on alternate days, plus with sirt benefits, it will not affect metabolism as much....but I am going conservative on this and trying to keep my average closer to BMR. Have you seen the BMR thread?

By the way I had a typo , but I'm sure you figured out that I meant I've read it's best not to go under RMR/BMR.

Thanks Dee Dee! I did start the new plan this week, but I think it's a little early to evaluate... The scale drop has got to be mostly water, but it's still nice.

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Old 04-06-2014, 09:17 AM   #157
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Average for the week ending...

Start: 223.80
3/9: 220.6
3/16: 217.5
3/23: 217.1
3/30: 217.3 (house guests and no DDs)
March total: -7.5

4/6: 215.7

Goal for April is -5lbs.... to get to 210.something

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Old 04-06-2014, 09:30 AM   #158
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Green, in theory on JUDDD, by having maintenance days on alternate days, plus with sirt benefits, it will not affect metabolism as much....but I am going conservative on this and trying to keep my average closer to BMR. Have you seen the BMR thread?

By the way I had a typo , but I'm sure you figured out that I meant I've read it's best not to go under RMR/BMR.

Thanks Dee Dee! I did start the new plan this week, but I think it's a little early to evaluate... The scale drop has got to be mostly water, but it's still nice.
Thanks!! Yes I understood despite the typo. . Thanks for your feedback on this.

I think I ate 1270-1500 cals for 6 days. It made me increasingly grouchy/ stressed as the week went on. I had 2000+ on both Friday and Saturday.

I weighed in this morning at 145.3.

Well, with just a week of that i know I can't go on with a daily goal of 1270-1570. I cried 4 times throughout the week...yikes! I could try another week of it at a higher goal like 1600-1800, but I'm tempted to just do a DD today.

I'll let y'all know what happens!
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:48 PM   #160
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4/4 234....not so yay again but I was expecting that, still off the cigs tho...doing both I think it will be a long haul but I dont care.
Jacci, you've had several major life changes recently, whether they're sad or good (the news of your All Clear), it's still perceived as stress by the body. On top of that, you've introduced behavioural changes (JUDDD and smoking cessation).

I'm not surprised that your body's a little bewitched, bothered, and bewildered. Kissa/Cindy would say: Relax, rotate, reduce, rejoice. I'd only add that you might refrain from judging your progress until you've had some time to recuperate from everything that's happened. Just observe your process and progress and learn what you can.
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I am switching from daily to once a week weight on Tuesdays. I added my March Tuesday's weights, which were after DD's.
April's goal is to get below 160 and have real DD's.

3/4 164.5
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I'm kind of excited because not only am I down 2.5 pounds, I've been eating a lot of calories on UDs, and between 500 and 600 on DDs. Can I actually lose (albeit slowly) on more calories??? Time will tell.
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4/8 - 191.5

I'm kind of excited because not only am I down 2.5 pounds, I've been eating a lot of calories on UDs, and between 500 and 600 on DDs. Can I actually lose (albeit slowly) on more calories??? Time will tell.
So excited for you Carol! Off to a great start, and how cool is it that you're doing this eating more calories?
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4/8 - 191.5

I'm kind of excited because not only am I down 2.5 pounds, I've been eating a lot of calories on UDs, and between 500 and 600 on DDs. Can I actually lose (albeit slowly) on more calories??? Time will tell.
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Jacci, you've had several major life changes recently, whether they're sad or good (the news of your All Clear), it's still perceived as stress by the body. On top of that, you've introduced behavioural changes (JUDDD and smoking cessation).

I'm not surprised that your body's a little bewitched, bothered, and bewildered. Kissa/Cindy would say: Relax, rotate, reduce, rejoice. I'd only add that you might refrain from judging your progress until you've had some time to recuperate from everything that's happened. Just observe your process and progress and learn what you can.
You are very right and thanks for that! That is what Im doing now....I am going to keep on keeping on if you like and see what happens...tbh the fact that Im not smoking is a miracle and the fact that im judding as well is an even bigger one! I know things will even themselves out eventually so will just keep plodding on and see what happens. A pound here and a pound there will make me happy!
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I am going to keep on keeping on if you like and see what happens...tbh the fact that Im not smoking is a miracle and the fact that im judding as well is an even bigger one! I know things will even themselves out eventually
I've just quoted this in another thread about the need for compassion (to self and others) when there's such a mis-match between what we want to do and the circumstances around us and consequences of what we're trying to do:
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You are very right and thanks for that! That is what Im doing now....I am going to keep on keeping on if you like and see what happens...tbh the fact that Im not smoking is a miracle and the fact that im judding as well is an even bigger one! I know things will even themselves out eventually so will just keep plodding on and see what happens. A pound here and a pound there will make me happy!
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Friday is my weigh-in day.

4/1 204.4
4/4 201.2
4/10 199.0

New plan started on 4/1:
3 days @700 cals (35% DD) - low carb
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I didn't realize I hadn't checked in for 3 weeks! And look what that did to me. 3 pounds
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Average for the week ending...

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3/9: 220.6
3/16: 217.5
3/23: 217.1
3/30: 217.3 (house guests and no DDs)
March total: -7.5

4/6: 215.7
4/13: 214.7

Goal for April is -5lbs.... to get to 210.something

I'm on spring break and am going camping for a couple of days later this week. I'm not sure what I'm going to do about rotations yet.
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Friday is my weigh-in day.

4/1 204.4
4/4 201.2
4/10 199.0

New plan started on 4/1:
3 days @700 cals (35% DD) - low carb
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Green and Gina - you both did great after a mini-break.

And Gina ... you're eating above BMR, right? I'd love to hear your plan if you'd like to share. It's working brilliantly!

Green, you mentioned the lower cals weren't making you feel very good ... what did you decide to do after the week off? (which seems to have done you good!)

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Sort of, I think.

I calculated my BMR from a couple of different calculators. I came up with daily numbers and then calculated over a week- 11500-11800. I have been doing 4:3 (MWF) and that works out to 700 calorie DDs and 2400 UDs to get 11700 per week.

I typically do DDs of around 700-800 and I don't count UDs. I have spot checked here and there and they have been 2200-2400. So far, so good and I will ride it as long as I can.

I did JUDDD before and started with the calculator numbers (and lost 1 lb a week after the initial whoosh, just like I am now). As time went on I had to go lower and lower and eventually came to a complete standstill and did HCG. I was also running 15-20 miles per week. I do have thyroid problems, but I had found a good doctor and was well-medicated by then. I took all of my focus to keep the plates in the air. Once I couldn't run (had to have foot surgery) and got a new job there was a big crash.

I know I may have to lower calories or go to EOD eventually, but at least this way I have somewhere to go. I don't want to get caught in that trap again.

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