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Old 01-09-2014, 12:23 PM   #301
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Nilla, you made it clear a year or two back that you couldn't share more of you personal life with us, and we all respect that. But we love it when you come in and chat about our chatter. Our try to kill a thread...

i remember when you said something to the effect that 'no one takes any notice of my posts'... well you sure got that wrong lady, .
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Old 01-09-2014, 12:26 PM   #302
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I normally do full fast DDs but just got back from the Dr.s' office with an antibiotic prescription. It's only for five days and you don't have to eat with it but I am debating about having some Greek yogurt on my DD's just to help out the gut bacteria.
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Old 01-09-2014, 12:29 PM   #303
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Good idea Frosty, or at least take some probiotic?
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Good idea Frosty, or at least take some probiotic?
Yogurt is the only probiotic I have right now. I just don't want to get a case of the hungries if I start eating on a DD. It's only five days but it hits three DD's (today, Sat and Mon).

Stupid sinus infection.
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Nasty things, sinus infections.
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Nothing wrong with yogurt to take with medication, but the important time to take probiotics, is AFTER you are done with your course of antibiotics, to help your digestive tract to recover. And not just for a little bit--for several weeks! If not more.
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'Nilla, I totally understand wanting to stay private. It took me a long time to "open up" on here, and I still don't get too specific. You just keep doing whatever is comfortable, and we'll take you any way we can get you!
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This is how I want to do JUDDD. Like Slow Sure beautifully said, this WOE should blend or integrate seamlessly into our lives. I just want to get up and think "oh it's an UD/DD" and go on with my day and not get so stuck in the numbers. In my first JUDDD days (2007), I only counted my DDs and kept them at 500 and lost pretty good until .. vacay! Seems like when I begin losing, some life thing comes up and stops it. Last time was surgery. But, as often as I get frustrated at not losing, like you I'm so burnt out on counting. My problem is not overeating on UDs, but typically undereating. I keep a stricter eye on the DDs and keep half an eye on the UDs just to make sure I'm eating enough.
I’ve not been doing this for long enough to know if it will work indefinitely (I started last summer). I maintained my weight loss on LC for five or six years. I want to maintain for decades. It will take a while longer for me to know if I can carry on like this.
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Nothing wrong with yogurt to take with medication, but the important time to take probiotics, is AFTER you are done with your course of antibiotics, to help your digestive tract to recover. And not just for a little bit--for several weeks! If not more.
I always break my fast on UDs with nonfat Greek yogurt. Less than 300 calories and 50 g of protein in one shot. I probably am okay but may stop at the hippie store on the way home and see what they have in the way of probiotics.
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If you make some sauerkraut this evening, it would be ready for snacking just as you finish up your antibiotics!

If you like sauerkraut, that is.
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One other thing...

One of the driving forces for me to finally get serious about losing weight is that the blood center had started turning me down when I went to give blood. I normally give regularly, partly to help others but also to keep my iron stores down. Over the last year, I was only able to give once (got turned down three times and had the flu another time).

They were turning me down because my diastolic number (bottom number) was too high (over 100). I played around with various ways to get that down, including a very low fat diet which brought it down enough for the one time I was able to donate last summer but none of it was sustainable.

The local Safeway has a new machine that matched up with the doctor's office and I used that to track my BP. The blood center's machines read high (about 15 mm HG high on the Systolic and 10 mm HG high on the Diastolic) but I could account for that.

I hadn't measured in a while so measured last Sunday when we were at Safeway and it was 159/96! I was shocked since I thought the weight loss would bring it down and it was actually higher than last summer. However, this was after a week of holiday eating with no rotations so I thought a clean rotation might get my BP back down in time for the next donation time (next Tuesday).

Anyway, they checked my BP when I went into the doctor's office a couple of hours ago and my BP was 124/82.

So either the machine is wrong, the nurse didn't do it right or JUDDD is super magic.
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If you make some sauerkraut this evening, it would be ready for snacking just as you finish up your antibiotics!
Ummm...

Not happening.


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If you make some sauerkraut this evening, it would be ready for snacking just as you finish up your antibiotics!

If you like sauerkraut, that is.
I looove me some sauerkraut! In fact we're having it tonight with pork chops and dumplings.
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Anyway, they checked my BP when I went into the doctor's office a couple of hours ago and my BP was 124/82.

So either the machine is wrong, the nurse didn't do it right or JUDDD is super magic.
I stopped on the way home and tried the machine again. This time it read 179/109. The nurse can't be that far off (124/82), can she?
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Maybe you have the opposite of white-coat anxiety.
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many many nurses do NOT take a blood pressure correctly. it amazes me how something so important is done so inaccurately. not saying that that happened to you, but it happens sooooo much.
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I'd be inclined to disbelieve a machine at a store over the nurse. However, I am not a professional. I just play one on LCF!
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Well, maybe it was low since I was chillin' in the waiting room for a half hour. I had to drive to to the store and there are a lot of idiots out today with the snow. I should probably never get my BP checked right after I drive somewhere.
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I'd be inclined to disbelieve a machine at a store over the nurse. However, I am not a professional. I just play one on LCF!
The guy I work with is private pilot. He got grounded a couple of years ago because of high BP and used this machine to track it. He said it matched up well with the Dr's office. However, that was a while ago and the machine has been upgraded (mostly to show more ads on the screen while it takes your BP). Maybe the software is glitchy.

I will say the cuff on the machine gets much, much tighter than the nurse did with the manual cuff.
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the arm needs to be at heart height, they can NOT do it over clothing and the arm needs to be supported by the nurse, you should not be supporting it yourself. if she did all that, and she used enough pressure, then it's probably accurate.

this is a subject that is near and dear to my "heart" (haha) as i have a mom and a mother in law with very high blood pressure and they have major issues with accuracy in doctor's offices.
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It's true, the machine does get a lot tighter, and they use those in the hospital. I usually have higher readings with the machine than manually, but I don't know which one is more accurate.
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the arm needs to be at heart height, they can NOT do it over clothing and the arm needs to be supported by the nurse, you should not be supporting it yourself. if she did all that, and she used enough pressure, then it's probably accurate.

this is a subject that is near and dear to my "heart" (haha) as i have a mom and a mother in law with very high blood pressure and they have major issues with accuracy in doctor's offices.
Yup, she did all that. I want to believe her numbers.

I don't really trust the machines, especially the home units. I bought a pretty nice manual cuff for home but it kind of relies on my wife to learn how to use it and she hasn't yet. At least, I'm not sure if you can take your own BP manually.
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the arm needs to be at heart height, they can NOT do it over clothing and the arm needs to be supported by the nurse, you should not be supporting it yourself. if she did all that, and she used enough pressure, then it's probably accurate.

this is a subject that is near and dear to my "heart" (haha) as i have a mom and a mother in law with very high blood pressure and they have major issues with accuracy in doctor's offices.
OMG you guys.

First, I'm glad I'm not the only one to get turned down for blood donation.
For me, it's high pulse. My resting rate is high 90's/100. It just is.
So they won't let me give blood. I sorta get it, and I think it's stupid also. Ugh.

Second, they can't get my Bp right at the dr's office. The small manual cuff sucks. So they bring in an automatic machine, which does 3 tests and average them. More sighs. I'm usually 120/80, but now and then, it's 130/90 or something, and they *look* at me, like, judgey.

So I got the ihealth wrist cuff. It bluetooths to the iPad, and i can take my own Bp whenever I want, chart trends, I think even put it on FB! Lol, that's a heck of a status update!
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In the beginning of JUDDDing, it seemed so phenomenal that I could eat THAT much on a diet, that I rarely went over my UD cals. Now it requires a lot of thought and careful planning to not go over.
I third this observation. Darn it!

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That's how my workspace is too! Zero privacy. Also, zero time. That was one reason I was so scarce around here for awhile, but that can't happen to you, Dawn! I depend on your wisdom!

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I heartily agree with this, and not that I preach any weightloss advice to anyone, but if asked, or if preached TO , this is what I say.
To each their own.

I am so with you on that. Also with Slowsure's point

I can totally relate! You're doing better than I do! I'm like, nom nom nom... What? Food? Oh, I've never seen food before! Oh? Chips? Gosh, I have to try this delightful invention! Oooooh... You call this "ravioli"? Why, they don't have this in the rock I live under... Must eat it ALL!!!

What is it about free food that makes us go nutty? And, a work trip is not a "special occasion", especially not when they happen 1x a month or more, for a week!

Did I mention I'm traveling again on the 26th?
Sigh.
I definitely was in the "what, free food is in front of me?" mode on the up days of the conference.

Sirtain: I think if doctors are going to tsk tsk at us if we gain or don't lose weight, they've got to say something good when we lose huge chunks! Thank goodness for the receptionist.
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This is how I want to do JUDDD. Like Slow Sure beautifully said, this WOE should blend or integrate seamlessly into our lives. I just want to get up and think "oh it's an UD/DD" and go on with my day and not get so stuck in the numbers. In my first JUDDD days (2007), I only counted my DDs and kept them at 500 and lost pretty good until .. vacay! Seems like when I begin losing, some life thing comes up and stops it. Last time was surgery. But, as often as I get frustrated at not losing, like you I'm so burnt out on counting. My problem is not overeating on UDs, but typically undereating. I keep a stricter eye on the DDs and keep half an eye on the UDs just to make sure I'm eating enough.



I've opted to weigh only on Saturdays since it's after a set DD. But it does drive me nuts what's going on during the week. Just as nuts when I do weigh daily and see that bounce! I hear those voices, too. It's all I can do to keep from wandering over to the other weight loss boards to see what the newest thing is sometimes. Oh, and I quite enjoy most of your ramblings because I can relate to so many of them!

I don't post a lot in here and occasionally lurk since I've chosen not to share a lot of my personal life. I'd love to, but I freely admit to being paranoid about someone coming up to me and saying "you're vanilla latte, aren't you??!!". Because of some of the specifics in my life, it wouldn't be hard for a family member or friend to peg me in half a second! I'd love to share more and I might had I never ever posted a weight on LCF. Maybe if Dottie is reading, she can remove every weight I've ever posted here.

Anyway, when the posts are JUDDD related, so many of them hit home and these two sure did today.
Nilla: I so want to get there, too. You know, where we just say "La-ti-da. It's a DD" Or, " Oh, good. It's an UD."

Sometimes I feel that way.

Yesterday on my DD I was more anxious because of the scale bounce. All day long I was really, REEEEEEEEEEEAlly, conscious of not eating and it was driving me nuts. I kept doing all my tricks to keep away from food. Lemon in my water. More and more ice in my water. Hot green tea. Cold green tea. Go for a walk. Read ALL the threads on JUDD forum! Finish reading two books I was into. Do laundry that really didn't need to be done. Call all my friends to keep my mouth busy talking!

Oh, and I was anxious all night long. I kept getting up every hour or two, turning on my little flash light and stepping on the scale! I am going nuts!!!

However, It kept going down .2; .2; a teeny weeny bit at a time.

So, this morning when I finally got up for the last time to start my day, the 2 pound bounce from yesterday was GONE. YAY! and .8 more pounds went with it for a total of -8 pounds since I came back to JUDD on Dec. 21st. Not bad!

All that rambling to say that my UD was extremely pleasant today! I was happy all day. I've been craving some wild sockeye salmon and more brussel sprouts. (I don't know what it is with the brussel sprouts lately! I just want to eat them all the time! Crazy!) I went to the store and they had some gorgeous salmon filets.

DH thought I was nuts when I cooked them at 3 in the afternoon, but I just couldn't wait! I told him he could warm his up later but I ate mine right then. I had some Toasted Head chardonnay and watched HGTV and then took a nap!

It was a lovely UD and I wish I could be that happy every day on JUDD. I think I will stay OFF the scale tomorrow morning and try to have a lovely, peaceful DD and get into some kind of a pattern of ADF happiness.

DH wants to go to see the Merle Streep/Julia Roberts movie tomorrow and I'll have to stave off the popcorn temptation. But I did so well last time with my chopped up vegetables and leftover roast beef that I think I'll try that again and hope for the best.

If I fail and have a fist full of popcorn, I'm not going to freak out and call myself a failure. I'll just move on.

BTW: I love you, Vanilla! I think you share just the right amount of stuff and your insight is always great and very much appreciated!
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Anyone else ever stay up late on a DD and have an evil voice in your head say "well - technically I can eat now" when it hits midnight?
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Anyone else ever stay up late on a DD and have an evil voice in your head say "well - technically I can eat now" when it hits midnight?
Yes!!

And once or twice, I have!

Oh, info for those with high blood pressure. There have been a couple of studies indicating that fasting for an extended period lowers blood pressure for many months afterwards. I need to drag out the article to give exact numbers, and name of study, etc, but as I recall, it was one week of fasting, and lowered results still present 6 months to a year afterward. Might be interesting to look into.

I'll try to pull that up today. (Of course, the hard part is remembering to get back to this thread and post it! )
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