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Old 12-22-2013, 03:00 PM   #1
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Be flexible -- there's no failing!

One thing I'm now remembering that I just LOVE about JUDDD is that you can't mess up on this plan while you are "on" it.

The only way to mess up is to quit altogether for a long period of time or forever.

I was looking for books on ADF and found one free to borrow on my Kindle Fire. It's only 94 pages so very short in the paperback. Not a lot of scientific stuff. It's really a personal testimony by the author and her husband about their own experience with ADF and 5:2

There were a number of sections that sparked me up and made me think. "Oh Yeah! That's why I like this WOE!!!"

Here's one:

"Be Flexible: - If a Fast Day (DD) doesn't fit in with your schedule then change it. If something suddenly comes up and your Fast Day turns into a Feast Day then don't worry, simply fast the next day. Don't beat yourself up, there is no failing with this plan."

Cool, right?

The name of this short book is: "Easy Alternate Day Fasting: Fast and Feast your way to a New You" by Beth Christian

She also lists some recommended reading at the end.
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Old 12-22-2013, 09:34 PM   #2
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So true! It is the most flexible plan I've ever encountered. And I've been able to stay on it longer than any other plan. I mean really, truly sticking with it. I low carbed for many years, but there were times during those years where I was more off than on. I've taken a week off for company here and there, but always jumped right back on. Because it doesn't feel restrictive and make me crazy!
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:33 AM   #3
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JUDDD's flexibility makes it harder to be ambushed. I keep mentioning Mom2Boys' I believe I had an epiphany thread because I think she gives a superb and very helpful synopsis of just how much flexibility we have with our DDs when 'life happens' or something (good or bad) crops up out of the blue.

So often, it feels as if people call a DD a failure when it is still squarely in the WLM number of kcals and is neither here nor there in the general scheme of weight loss. It truly does feel as if there is an unhelpful imp trying to sabotage us by whispering our fears and negative self-talk which is plainly untrue and can not stand up to even light scrutiny.

JUDDD doesn't ask for perfection. JUDDD requests that you stay within its guidelines and stand ready to congratulate yourself on the results of trusting the process.

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Old 12-23-2013, 05:15 AM   #4
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Thanks for posting the freebie by Beth Christian! I'm going to go grab it. Maybe we should start a free books thread.

Recently another LCF member recommended a book by Matt Stone called "Eat for Heat," which I got as a freebie, and it helped me realize I was drinking WAY too much fluid. Interesting read.

Yesterday I saw another free ADF book called "Fast Diet Success" on Amazon - haven't read it yet but just downloaded.

Would love to hear the other free Kindle books you've found.

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Old 12-23-2013, 08:30 AM   #5
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Thanks for the book recommendations, and for the reminder. JUDDD really is sustainable.
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:07 AM   #6
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Thank you for the book. It has great reviews. I cant wait to read it.
I have really missed JUDDD.
I love the empty feeling of the DD's and getting to eat, really eat on UD's.
there are times i feel too full and i know i havent eaten that much.

and you are right. It really is the easiest diet out there. It is just the idea of fasting can be scary and intimidating to so many people. It scared me and hindered me from trying it again and then now i have i wonder why i ever stopped!!
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:51 AM   #7
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JUDDD's flexibility makes it harder to be ambushed. I keep mentioning Mom2Boys' I believe I had an epiphany thread because I think she gives a superb and very helpful synopsis of just how much flexibility we have with our DDs when 'life happens' or something (good or bad) crops up out of the blue.

So often, it feels as if people call a DD a failure when it is still squarely in the WLM number of kcals and is neither here nor there in the general scheme of weight loss. It truly does feel as if there is an unhelpful imp trying to sabotage us by whispering our fears and negative self-talk which is plainly untrue and can not stand up to even light scrutiny.

JUDDD doesn't ask for perfection. JUDDD requests that you stay within its guidelines and stand ready to congratulate yourself on the results of trusting the process.


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Thanks for posting the freebie by Beth Christian! I'm going to go grab it. Maybe we should start a free books thread.

Recently another LCF member recommended a book by Matt Stone called "Eat for Heat," which I got as a freebie, and it helped me realize I was drinking WAY too much fluid. Interesting read.

Yesterday I saw another free ADF book called "Fast Diet Success" on Amazon - haven't read it yet but just downloaded.

Would love to hear the other free Kindle books you've found.

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Hmmmmm....I don't remember all of them! With Kindle as you know, there are some books you borrow and then return before you can get a new one. I returned the 5:2 book I borrowed for free to get this one. Before that I had read several on fasting. I think one was called "The Fast Diet". I liked the 5:2 Diet book. None of the other ones stand out. I guess I would remember them if they were worth recommending.

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Thank you for the book. It has great reviews. I cant wait to read it.
I have really missed JUDDD.
I love the empty feeling of the DD's and getting to eat, really eat on UD's.
there are times i feel too full and i know i havent eaten that much.

and you are right. It really is the easiest diet out there. It is just the idea of fasting can be scary and intimidating to so many people. It scared me and hindered me from trying it again and then now i have i wonder why i ever stopped!!
Beth mentions that in her book about how many people are just scared of "fasting" and can't imagine themselves doing it. She's honest about how difficult it was for her and her DH to restrict calories on the first few fast days, but that now it's just routine and she thinks nothing of it.

I like her ideas about some go-to meals for busy DDs. Kinda reminds me of Dawn and how she always had the same lunch every DD. It becomes automatic and you don't have to think about it.

You are right about JUDD or ADF being the easiest diet. It's easy to forget that when we get out of the routine. Life got in my way and I just rebelled against doing anything at all for months and months. Now that I've started back up as of last Thursday, I realize how enjoyable and easy this is! I feel like I'm accomplishing something and doing something really good for myself.

I, too, love the empty feeling of a DD and the feeling of not being bloated and sluggish all the time!
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Old 12-24-2013, 03:46 AM   #8
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Just retrieved something by stephdray that is a lovely summary:
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[JUDDD] does not ask me to change who I am or what makes me happy, etc. It only asks me to wait until tomorrow. And that has more power than I can ever communicate to anyone.
For people who missed it, stephdray's 1 Year on JUDDD post and Working with present reality are both well worth reading as they describe the flexibility of JUDDD and the importance of working within our present reality.
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Lovely post, and thanks for bringing that back, SS. I miss Steph's posts very much.
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I need to remember how flexible this plan is when I feel inflexible...
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i need to remember this. when i look ahead at the calender it sometimes stresses me out when i see a day that i didn't factor in. one of the truly incredible things about this WOE is the fact that you can work it into your life, not let it become your life. so important.

i have tried all different kinds of diet trends. i can honestly say that JUDDD by far, is, for me, the most easily sustainable WOE out there. i am so very glad i stumbled upon it!!!

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Old 01-02-2014, 02:25 PM   #12
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I agree, I love that about ADF and the fact it's so easy.

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I, too, love the empty feeling of a DD and the feeling of not being bloated and sluggish all the time!
Me too! 2 DDs after xmas feeling like my old self again but I gotta admit, I definitely don't like doing DDs especially on weekends or there's treats around ...haha. I make sure I'm out and about on weekend DDs so I'm occupied and not roaming around home.

I'm trying to change my attitude about DDs so they don't seem so burdensome. I've already pre-planned my next 2 DDs so it should be a no-brainer. I also bought myself a coffee press for work specifically for DDs as I find it a appetite suppressant when I add a bit of cream - it tastes so much better than drip coffee maker.
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Oceania: Good idea about the coffee press at work for DDs. Coffee is definitely an appetite suppressant for me, too. I just can't drink it in the afternoon or I will stay awake all night. Hate decaff. I've never tasted a decaff I like. Maybe it's in my head about that.
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Coffee/caffeine doesn't have much effect on me in terms of sleeping. I had a cup last night 8pm and slept like a baby...lol

Coffee press is working out great - so far I only had 2 cups of coffee on my DD, nothing to eat as of yet...I am hungry but not starving
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Coffee/caffeine doesn't have much effect on me in terms of sleeping. I had a cup last night 8pm and slept like a baby...lol

Coffee press is working out great - so far I only had 2 cups of coffee on my DD, nothing to eat as of yet...I am hungry but not starving
Wow. Even if I would have weak coffee at 8pm I would be bouncing off the ceiling all night long!

Congrats on your good DDs.

I have read 3 books on ADF recently and now I can't remember who said what. But I'm liking the idea of maybe having one 0% DD per week and then making the other ones 400 and 500 or even 600 on a DD when I really need it.

I keep thinking back to the word "flexible" and also to Dr. J's calculator with different levels and how he sometimes does 50% if he needs to.

Mostly I'm interested in getting SIRT1 fully activated because I remember when I was successful with JUDDing in 2012 it was because I really felt the effects of the "rescue gene". I want to feel that again. But I guess I don't want to suffer to get there.
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Mostly I'm interested in getting SIRT1 fully activated because I remember when I was successful with JUDDing in 2012 it was because I really felt the effects of the "rescue gene". I want to feel that again. But I guess I don't want to suffer to get there.
I wonder if the pterostilbene will eventually build up to a sufficient level in you that it will help you with the re-activation?
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I wonder if the pterostilbene will eventually build up to a sufficient level in you that it will help you with the re-activation?
I'm surely hoping that will be part of it. I was reading some of the customer comments on Amazon regarding the Jarrow brand of pterostilbene and one person said it is safe to take up to 250 mg per day.

I usually take 100 mg but today I took 150 (3 50 mg capsules).

Probably shouldn't rely on customer reviews for medical advice, huh? However, it does give me some assurance that lots of people have been taking it for years and seem to have no bad side effects. They all give it a high rating.
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I read several 2012 studies that seemed to be serious and replicable - a few used ptero at 200 mg/day and several used 250 mg/day - they all reported no bad or questionable side effects at those rates.

In weight loss mode I definitely bounced my DD calories all over the place - never went below 100 (need my coffee and measured HWC) but I hit 100 on DD, went up to almost 600 the next DD, then down to 300 on the next DD as a regular weekly pattern. My bod seemed to really like the dance.

Chuckle, the only 0 cal days I had involved rushing a family member to the ER very early in the morning, finding hospital food *yuck* and not getting home until so late all I wanted to do was sleep. Strangely those emergencies always happened on an UD.

"Hunger is not an emergency" is a very useful mantra sometimes.
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Thanks hun.. if I am to come back to the forum I should change my stats lol.. checking in at 169 but I am ok with that.. I have never seamed to ever see anything lower than my 165 and really wonder if I ever will
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I read several 2012 studies that seemed to be serious and replicable - a few used ptero at 200 mg/day and several used 250 mg/day - they all reported no bad or questionable side effects at those rates.

In weight loss mode I definitely bounced my DD calories all over the place - never went below 100 (need my coffee and measured HWC) but I hit 100 on DD, went up to almost 600 the next DD, then down to 300 on the next DD as a regular weekly pattern. My bod seemed to really like the dance.

Chuckle, the only 0 cal days I had involved rushing a family member to the ER very early in the morning, finding hospital food *yuck* and not getting home until so late all I wanted to do was sleep. Strangely those emergencies always happened on an UD.

"Hunger is not an emergency" is a very useful mantra sometimes.
Love your post! As usual, Nancy!!! This is very, very encouraging.

Instead of freaking out about having to hit the exact same amount of calories or less on DDs, I'm definitely going to listen to my body and go with what it's telling me about whether to have low-med-high DDs or even zero. Or a MD.

I need to keep telling myself that there is no failure, just flexibility with this WOE.

It's working for me so far!!!

And, I have got to look up that hunger is not an emergency thread and re-read it right now. Thanks for reminding me!!!
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