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Sunshine_icicles 12-22-2013 03:25 AM

I'm so discouraged! Why isn't the scale going down more??
 
Hi ladies.

So many of you have been so encouraging and positive! I hate posting negativity but I need help. I think I'm doing something wrong?

I started JUDDD on 12/12. The morning of 12/12 I weighed in at 159.6 pounds. I have not weighed myself since then, but today my scale says 160.1 pounds. How can that be?? I have been doing under 100 calorie down days, and I'm eating my up day cals as best as I can. I've never been a junk food eater, most of my down fall historically has been fat and salt, but since starting JUDDD I've dramatically reduced my sodium intake. I don't think I'm retaining fluid.

What am I doing wrong? I so desperately want this weight off.

SlowSure 12-22-2013 05:48 AM

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What am I doing wrong? I so desperately want this weight off.
It's much easier said than done but trust the process. It has only been <10 days so it's far too early to start tweaking - this period is about getting your rotations established and enabling you to spot anything that needs to be planned for or addressed (e.g., practicality of having a DD at the weekend etc.).

Take your measurements. Plot your measurements and scale weight over time. Trust the process and give it some more time before you alter anything.

I didn't trust the process and reduced my calories after I plateaued for 6 weeks after I first started (2011). Reducing didn't help and narrowed my options further so when life happened, I just stopped JUDDD. And then instead of maintaining my then 140lbs (to which I'd agonisingly slowly inched after conventional calorie reduction) I gained to 157lbs. So, when I was finally ready to embrace JUDDD, I had an additional 17lbs to lose to get me back to my original starting point. :mad:

As Kissa says, Relax, Rotate, Reduce, Rejoice. :)

itsmeshelly01 12-22-2013 06:23 AM

Sunshine if it helps it took me a good 2 wks of doing the rotations and trusting the process before I saw a loss. Now this last week I am finllay seeing a loss after every DD.
I dropped 2.5 lbs after 1 DD and now I am down 1 lb or half a lb the last 2. I don't know if it will keep up but I have finally lost a little over 4lbs in a week.

I think it might have taken my body some time to adjust or something. I don't know but im happy the scale is finally moving. Are you keeping your UD's high?
Don't go too low on your UD's especially if your DD's are that low.

I think it helped when I really keep my DD's low and have high UD's.

I agree with Slow, follow what Kissa says, Relax, Rotate, Reduce and Rejoice. :) :)

Mom2jj 12-22-2013 07:13 AM

I was going to post something similar. I've been good at doing my rotations and haven't lost weight for 6 days. I went up .6 and have stayed that way. I've been eating cookies on my UDs. Maybe that is my problem.
Lynne

ks4 12-22-2013 07:26 AM

I think you need to give it a month and a half and see if you lose any weight. I quit before by being discouraged at my weight loss but I now know better. A month and a half is enough to see visible changes even if weight won't change.

My weight loss is pretty slow recently (a pound or so a week) but if I look at the past two months I notice that those pounds add up. Sure it wasn't as fast as I had hoped but at least I'm getting there. So I don't weight everyday as I know my weight won't change until 6 days pass where I will be usually 1 pound lighter. Sometimes it takes more than a week, but visible changes can be seen even faster!

Also, what state are you at metabolically? If you have dieted right before with another plan it might interfere a little. I found taking a break from dieting to refeed my body and to restore my metabolism to be very beneficial mentally and physically before trying a new plan.

If I have given the plan more time last time when I quit (I was doing it for about a month), I know I would have continued to lose weight.

Also, I don't think it would have been a good idea for me to restrict the types of food I ate on UD's. Part of the reason for doing JUDDD is having the freedom to eat whatever you want. Sometimes I don't want sweets naturally but sometimes I do and I don't find it hinders my weight loss in any way.

And I agree with everyone else to just continue and be patient and give this plan more time as I said it took me about 1.5 months to see my downward trend in full gear.

adillenal 12-22-2013 08:02 AM

When I started I did not lose an oz the first two weeks. Might even have been longer but it has been almost 2 years and I am old. Oh and I lost 40 pounds too. So hang in there . It will happen.

Carly 12-22-2013 08:12 AM

What are the actual calories you 2 are both using for your UD/DD. If you give us your age, weight, height and gender we can double check that you ae using the correct numbers.

I always use the juddd calculator numbers with "little to no exercise" even though I do exercise with some regularity. (recently I haven't been too great, but ordinarily 4x-5x a week.)

LoCarbGal 12-22-2013 08:35 AM

I know this sounds weird coming from me, since I'm on this no-weigh/weighing once a month kick. But you know, the problem with only weighing once every week or longer is that you don't see the real progression. You know you have these occasional weird days where you're up a few pounds for no apparent reason. We all have those. If you just happen to weigh on THAT day, you won't see any progress you are making. There's pluses and minuses weighing daily, just like there are weighing weekly or bi-weekly or whatever.

So just take a deep breath and know that you probably just got a strange reading. You've got to trust JUDDD to do its work, and that may mean some healing and cleanup are needed before weight loss really kicks in. Hopefully Nancy will chime in, because she always can describe the process going on in your body with JUDDD so well.

And yes, do post your stats so we can double check your numbers. Many of us have accidently come up with the wrong numbers on the calculator for various reasons. Hang on....we'll get you there!

Mom2jj 12-22-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Carly (Post 16726373)
What are the actual calories you 2 are both using for your UD/DD. If you give us your age, weight, height and gender we can double check that you ae using the correct numbers.

I always use the juddd calculator numbers with "little to no exercise" even though I do exercise with some regularity. (recently I haven't been too great, but ordinarily 4x-5x a week.)

I'm 48, female, weigh 164.4 and am 5' 3 1/2 ". Remind me again about UD calories. If I eat less I may not lose? And if I eat more il gain?
Lynne

LoCarbGal 12-22-2013 09:52 AM

Lynne, for you I get UD 1733/DD 347.

Your and my stats are very close! My losses have slowed down so much recently, so I think we may be in for a long, slow push to the finish. But it will happen. And if it's true that the slower you lose, the better your body adjusts and the more likely to keep it off, I'm in.

Yam-Yam 12-22-2013 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LoCarbGal (Post 16726390)
I know this sounds weird coming from me, since I'm on this no-weigh/weighing once a month kick. But you know, the problem with only weighing once every week or longer is that you don't see the real progression. You know you have these occasional weird days where you're up a few pounds for no apparent reason. We all have those. If you just happen to weigh on THAT day, you won't see any progress you are making. There's pluses and minuses weighing daily, just like there are weighing weekly or bi-weekly or whatever.

So just take a deep breath and know that you probably just got a strange reading. You've got to trust JUDDD to do its work, and that may mean some healing and cleanup are needed before weight loss really kicks in. Hopefully Nancy will chime in, because she always can describe the process going on in your body with JUDDD so well.

And yes, do post your stats so we can double check your numbers. Many of us have accidently come up with the wrong numbers on the calculator for various reasons. Hang on....we'll get you there!

:goodpost::goodpost: I definitely agree! When I was JUDDing gangbusters in 2011/2012 I weighed every day and wrote it down in a note book and then made a daily chart. It is soooooooooo interesting to look at that chart! It made me glad that I didn't only weigh once a week or once a month.

There was a week when I had a seven pound swing! Other weeks it would be four or five pounds difference from my high and low weight.

I just started back with JUDDD after an almost 9 month break (where I just couldn't get my act together due to stress and grief). Right now I'm just weighing after DDs. But after my first 2 weeks is over, I'm going to weigh every day.

I know some people can't handle weighing more often. But it is good to keep in mind that it could be just an unusual up swing that will only last a few days.

Some women gain significant poundage twice a month (I used to). During ovulation and then at TOM. A bad night's sleep can make the scale go up. A bit of stress. All kinds of stuff you don't even think of.

One more important thing to remember is from what I have read, it takes about two weeks or more of good UD/DD rotations to build up those magic sirtuins to the point where they do their fat burning/fat blocking magic.

Hang in there!!! We are here for you!!! You can do this!:clap:

SlowSure 12-22-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mom2jj (Post 16726463)
I'm 48, female, weigh 164.4 and am 5' 3 1/2 ". Remind me again about UD calories. If I eat less I may not lose? And if I eat more il gain?

Odd as it sounds, pretty much, but there are qualifiers.

This doesn't apply to everyone but when some people eat too few calories, they become colder and less active, down-regulating their overall energy expenditure to match their reduced intake.

If you eat a considerable/significant number of kcals that exceeds your regular energy expenditure then, yes, as per usual, it contributes to weight gain for some people if their activity levels etc. don't rise in concert to use up that extra energy.

We tend to support eating your UD kcals in order to maintain activity levels. We also tend to think in the longer term for maintaining our intake to give us more options if we need to tweak our intakes at a later date. (If you reduced your UD kcals to 1300 to have a faster loss, if you needed to reduce them again, you'd be hard put to to obtain all the nutrients you need from that amount of foodstuffs.)

Mom2jj 12-22-2013 12:32 PM

I re ran my numbers based on no activity and I got 1729 for UD and 346 for DD. I had put in light exercise before and to tell the truth over the last 2 weeks I didn't exercise like I was. Maybe that was my problem. I think I'll try with these new numbers.

Yennie 12-22-2013 03:48 PM

You've had great input already and I think giving it a go with the new numbers is a good idea. Be sure you're taking measurements as well, as NSVs are huge with this WOE, especially when the scale won't cooperate.
And give it more time. This WOE isn't fast, but its so sustainable it doesn't need to be fast! :)

Sunshine_icicles 12-22-2013 05:16 PM

Thanks everyone! I'm not ready to quit just yet but I hope I can soon see a scale drop!
We would like to start trying to conceive this Summer, and it's this 20 pounds I gained five years ago with my son that I just cannot seem to lose! I don't want to face getting pregnant and adding another 20 pounds to this!

If anyone has a better calculator, I am just over 5'8 and 160 pounds. I'm 27, and while not sedentary, I don't get my hour of exercise three times a week like I should. This whole week, my DD have been under 100 calories. Today is a DD and I've kept it under 20.

Locarbarella 12-22-2013 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunshine_icicles (Post 16726851)
Thanks everyone! I'm not ready to quit just yet but I hope I can soon see a scale drop!

Check out my numbers. I started JUDD on 12/1:

12/1 132.6 DD --
12/2 133.4 UD --
12/2 134.0 DD --
12/3 134.2 UD --
12/4 135.4 DD --
12/5 135.4 UD --
12/6 136.0 DD --
12/7 135.8 UD --
12/8 136.0 DD --
12/9 135.8 UD --
12/10 136.0 DD --
12/11 135.6 UP --
12/12 136 DD --
12/13 135.8 UD --
12/14 137 DD --
12/15 135.5 UD --
12/16 137.6 DD --
12/17 134.8 UD ---
12/18 134.4 DD ---
12/19 134.2 UD ---
12/20 133.4 DD ---
12/21 132.8 UD --
12/22 132.0 DD

Believe me, I was getting a little bit nervous there. I was not eating any junk and was following the program as written.

It may take some of us an adjustment period before our bodies understand what's going on. I think at first my body felt stressed by the down days. I had a rough time, very hungry, anxious, couldn't sleep. But it seems to have evened out over the past week and I'm going the right direction now.

Anyway, I just thought you might be interested to see the daily numbers of someone who went through the same thing when I started.

LoCarbGal 12-22-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunshine_icicles (Post 16726851)
Thanks everyone! I'm not ready to quit just yet but I hope I can soon see a scale drop!
We would like to start trying to conceive this Summer, and it's this 20 pounds I gained five years ago with my son that I just cannot seem to lose! I don't want to face getting pregnant and adding another 20 pounds to this!

If anyone has a better calculator, I am just over 5'8 and 160 pounds. I'm 27, and while not sedentary, I don't get my hour of exercise three times a week like I should. This whole week, my DD have been under 100 calories. Today is a DD and I've kept it under 20.

Looks like 1853/371 to me. Is this close to what you've been doing? Other than the really low DDs, which, congrats on that!

Kiley2801 12-23-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunshine_icicles (Post 16726851)
Thanks everyone! I'm not ready to quit just yet but I hope I can soon see a scale drop!
We would like to start trying to conceive this Summer, and it's this 20 pounds I gained five years ago with my son that I just cannot seem to lose! I don't want to face getting pregnant and adding another 20 pounds to this!

If anyone has a better calculator, I am just over 5'8 and 160 pounds. I'm 27, and while not sedentary, I don't get my hour of exercise three times a week like I should. This whole week, my DD have been under 100 calories. Today is a DD and I've kept it under 20.

You also have to keep in mind that you are not considered "overweight" with these stats, so your weight loss with JUDDD is going to be slower.

But if you stay consistent with the right numbers, you will see results! :)

Yennie 12-23-2013 09:25 AM

Also a very good point.
Hang in there, JUDDD will work its magic for you!!

Carly 12-23-2013 04:54 PM

Regarding the discussion of daily weighing- I found it valuable. I wish I had started right away, but I'd lost quite a bit before I learned the value in doing so.

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ju...d-anymore.html


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