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Old 11-26-2013, 07:24 AM   #1
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7 days = 4 dd and 3 UD and that my friends =

A 2 lbs loss for me!
I have stuck to as low of dd's as I could do.
Very low for me, 100-400 cal.
My UD's I really didn't count. Sick of counting calories, I'm getting old don't have the time, or want
Probably keep them at 1,900 cal.
I'm so happy I have a handle on this again!
Feel I'm shrinking, even more than what the stupid scale read for me.
The two pounds is nice, but it's how I feel, my clothes fitting better-ish
Is what I go by.
Holding off to eat on my UD is helpful to me.
I get the good buzz feeling in my head, just over all heathy, calmness-energy.
Calmness is a good but still feel like accomplishing things!
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:22 AM   #2
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great success!!! you are so lucky that you dont have to count your UD's. JUDDD would be over the top nirvana for me if i didnt have to do that!

congrats on a really really good week
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:24 AM   #3
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:28 AM   #4
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I'm trying to stick to liquids (tea, coffee, water) on my DDs this time around. Sometimes I'll have a little more of something in the evenings if I feel I need it. I add butter and cream to those hot drinks to keep me sated during the day. I do better holding off eating anything until later, too.

I'm counting UDs right now only to make sure I'm eating enough (my problem in the past). I'm really trying to not let the scale mess with my mind and look for any NSV's.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:33 PM   #5
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:50 PM   #6
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I'm not really counting ud's either right now. I find I actually eat enough if I don't count, and when I count, my calories are too low. Weird, I know. But so far it seems to be working.
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Old 11-26-2013, 02:01 PM   #7
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Have to admit

Awhile back I thought I was ready to do this woe again.
I checked in here, got great encouragement. Think I struggled a week, fell on my several times, ggrrrr. Gave up.
So gained a few more lbs I'm sure.
This time all my pants were tooooo tight yikes.
I have one pair of jeans I squished into.
I was determined to not buy bigger clothes!
So the only choice I had left, Juddd
It all in our heads, about eating.
No one needs to eat three meals a day with two snacks!
We Americans are really nuts on that subjects!
Love u all and thank you again.
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:48 PM   #8
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Wow, great week!

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Old 11-26-2013, 04:09 PM   #9
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Yay! So happy for you!
I never was one to eat 3 meals and snacks, but now I always try to save eating for later in the day when possible.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:39 PM   #10
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:51 PM   #11
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Awhile back I thought I was ready to do this woe again.
I checked in here, got great encouragement. Think I struggled a week, fell on my several times, ggrrrr. Gave up.
So gained a few more lbs I'm sure.
This time all my pants were tooooo tight yikes.
I have one pair of jeans I squished into.
I was determined to not buy bigger clothes!

So the only choice I had left, Juddd
It all in our heads, about eating.
No one needs to eat three meals a day with two snacks!
We Americans are really nuts on that subjects!
Love u all and thank you again.
OMG! Same here!I bought most of new pants and jeans when I was 6-7 lbs lighter. 2 sets of vacations since then did a number on me!So back into gear this month, thank God. Although, holidays and traveling do disrupt the routine a little but I get right back on.

Good for you!
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:34 PM   #12
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I have always thought that you actually need the nutrition of 3 meals a day, plus snacks (healthy), if you don't eat a lot at those meals. I bought into the thinking of eating 6-8 small meals a day too. I still have trouble with only having one meal on UDs, because I feel like I'm not getting enough nutrients, but mostly I just want to eat more. Is one meal a day on non-fasting days really enough? I'm not talking about calories, but is it okay to consume all of your daily cals in one meal? Sorry if this constitutes a thread-jack Ei, but I'm really curious to hear what others think.
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:43 AM   #13
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Well done Ei! Great attitude!!


Cindy, real food takes several hours to digest. If you eat several small meals, your body is constantly in digestive mode. It gets no chance to assimilate and eliminate properly, so you end up undernourished and toxic.

The people who sold us the myth of needing to eat little and often tend to be peddling refined carbohydrate, insulin-spike-now, crash-two-hours-later junk food. Sugary cereals or pop tarts for breakfast being a perfect example. In this way, many people consume vast amounts of non-nutrition over several meals/snacks daily.

Even though JUDDD is about calorie input, I think what you eat is a huge part of weight control.

When you eat it depends on what works best for your body and your lifestyle.

It's a fact that the more nourishing your food, the less your body will nag for any old stuff to be put into your mouth. Thus, I think it's crucial to choose UD food wisely. The JBs philosophy of nourishing your body on today's UD so it can sail through tomorrow's DD is very sound.

Off my soapbox now.
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:36 AM   #14
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I don't know, Flossy. The diets I've heard about, where you're encouraged to eat several small meals throughout the day, don't say eat processed foods every few hours. Of course, if you do eat that stuff, you're going to be hungry every few hours lol. I do agree that eating nourishing food on UDs is important, although I allow some sweets/carbs that are not essential. I still haven't gotten to the point where I only eat to live/nourish, and doubt I ever will. But, I have gotten beyond living to eat!

I aim to have 2-3 meals on UDs because I just prefer not to cram all my calories into one meal at the end of the day. Plus, once I start eating after having nothing all day, I feel like I can eat all night!
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Old 11-27-2013, 03:24 PM   #15
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Well, our parents thrived on three "square" meals per day.
I think it's the gap between the meals that's most important. It should be possible to leave at least four hours between meals, unless you have a metabolic problem. - I speak as one who once had to eat every two hours.
I love JUDD because treats can be a healthy part of the regimen. Otherwise it's just obsessive - and that's not healthy either.
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Old 11-29-2013, 03:04 PM   #16
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I so agree, Flossy. I am now convinced that feeling hungry, being really empty is vital to good health, and that's part of why JUDDD is so great. As I understand it, there are health benefits based on bodily functions at the cellular level (macrophagy?) that can only happen in the absence of digestion.

Kissa is so right when she says embrace hunger!
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Old 11-29-2013, 06:24 PM   #17
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I have always thought that you actually need the nutrition of 3 meals a day, plus snacks (healthy), if you don't eat a lot at those meals. I bought into the thinking of eating 6-8 small meals a day too. I still have trouble with only having one meal on UDs, because I feel like I'm not getting enough nutrients, but mostly I just want to eat more. Is one meal a day on non-fasting days really enough? I'm not talking about calories, but is it okay to consume all of your daily cals in one meal? Sorry if this constitutes a thread-jack Ei, but I'm really curious to hear what others think.
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I don't know, Flossy. The diets I've heard about, where you're encouraged to eat several small meals throughout the day, don't say eat processed foods every few hours. Of course, if you do eat that stuff, you're going to be hungry every few hours lol. I do agree that eating nourishing food on UDs is important, although I allow some sweets/carbs that are not essential. I still haven't gotten to the point where I only eat to live/nourish, and doubt I ever will. But, I have gotten beyond living to eat!

I aim to have 2-3 meals on UDs because I just prefer not to cram all my calories into one meal at the end of the day. Plus, once I start eating after having nothing all day, I feel like I can eat all night!
I eat only one tiny snack/ meal on DD and on UD only eat for about 2-3 hour window in the evening 80% of the time. Some UDs I have a yogurt around 2pm.

This just works for me and it is what I have gravitated to. I think I'm fairly well nourished. I could probably up the protein a bit, but otherwise I think I must get what I need since I rarely get colds or catch what is going around.
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:50 PM   #18
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I think many of the "6-8 small meals per day" people are trying to prevent blood sugar spikes and crashes. They're telling you to eat a steady stream of protein, and other nutrients as well, to stabilize the blood sugar. We all know why that's important so I won't go there but fasting also stabilizes blood sugar in that there are not the wild swings. The liver releases stored glycogen to stabilize blood sugar and when we get "the shakes" we are rarely truly hypoglycemic as defined from a medical standpoint.
The thing is that if you look at human GI physiology it really does lend one towards believing that humans evolved to eat 1-2 times per day. Compared to animals who graze, our systems are built to handle a large slug of food and then slowly work on digesting it over the next several hours.
For example: horses constantly secrete hydrochloric acid in their stomachs, because horses evolved to graze meaning there was a constant flow of food. SI transit time for carbohydrates in a horse is 45 minutes - they're quickly digested and absorbed because there was always going to be a trickle as they ate grass and needed to get to the business of digesting and moving on to the next mouthful of grass.
Humans, on the other hand, secrete HCl in response to food. If we secreted it constantly without food to buffer it, we'd eat holes in our stomachs (which some people do but that's a topic for a different day). Transit time depends greatly on the composition of the meal, with certain components slowing intestinal transit time so the digestive enzymes can work their magic and eek every last bit of nutrient out of the meal - because in primitive times we might not know when the next meal was coming and how nutritious it would be.
So from a strictly physiologic standpoint, provided one has a healthy GI tract, humans were not, in my opinion, meant to be grazers.
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Old 11-30-2013, 03:06 AM   #19
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I agree Jen and thanks for such a clear explanation.

It was first noted in the early 1990s that the trend was away from eating proper meals and that people were becoming "grazers". The obesity problem has exploded since then.
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Old 11-30-2013, 08:56 AM   #20
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We think it's perfectly ok to feed our dogs twice a day, so why shouldn't we do the same?
Dogs are omnivores as are people. So there is probably a similar need as far as timing of food coming in.
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Old 11-30-2013, 09:17 AM   #21
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Dogs and humans have very similar GI physiology. Not identical but close enough for our purposes. So very good point about feeding the dogs meals. Although I usually HATE the comparison of wolves and domesticated dogs GI physiology (they are NOT the same!!!) if you look at the feeding of wolves - big meals every day or 2. It wasn't until we changed the size & shape of dogs through domestication and selective breeding that large meals became a potential medical problem for the dogs - specifically large breed, deep chested dogs with an increase risk of bloat & torsion when fed infrequent, large meals. But, again, that's domestication, not nature! But that's not a digestive issue, its an anatomy issue!
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:16 AM   #22
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:29 AM   #23
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Old 11-30-2013, 06:50 PM   #24
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I have to agree that I do better by only eating a few times a day. I was eating every few hours as I thought that I had to keep the furnace fueled. But since doing juddd and eating less frequently thru out the day I am less bloated and feel lighter.
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