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Old 11-05-2013, 08:04 AM   #1
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Question about calories

If I do higher DD calories is it still considered JUDDDing being I am no where near maintenance?

Yesterday I ate over my target calories.. 650 instead of 484. This morning I'm down 3 pounds.. But, as some of you already know I was kind of stuck for weeks with no loss.

Now I'm wondering if I should up the down a bit. The question is if I do that, should I lower my UD?

Sorry if I'm making anyone nuts!! Haha.. if I don't ask I won't know.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:07 AM   #2
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Congrats on the 3 pounds! That must feel great!

I don't think you can tell anything about going higher for one day. It may just be coincidence that your stall ended right then. 650 is definitely not an out of bounds DD. Remember that Dr Johnson's calculator allows for up to 35% to still be in weight loss mode, and up to 45% to be in weight loss/maintenance mode.

We don't always have to be at 20% or less. In fact, it may be smart to vary our numbers a bit to keep our metabolisms guessing. I'd say try it for a week or two and see what happens. I wouldn't worry about changing your UD calories at this point, unless you see that you're gaining doing this. And not just a bounce, but a definite pattern of gains.

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Old 11-05-2013, 09:18 AM   #3
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Congrats on the 3 pounds! That must feel great!

I don't think you can tell anything about going higher for one day. It may just be coincidence that your stall ended right then. 650 is definitely not an out of bounds DD. Remember that Dr Johnson's calculator allows for up to 35% to still be in weight loss mode, and up to 45% to be in weight loss/maintenance mode.

We don't always have to be at 20% or less. In fact, it may be smart to vary our numbers a bit to keep our metabolisms guessing. I'd say try it for a week or two and see what happens. I wouldn't worry about changing your UD calories at this point, unless you see that you're gaining doing this. And not just a bounce, but a definite pattern of gains.

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Old 11-05-2013, 11:57 AM   #4
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Just to chime in I'll say that a few of us carry around a "post it note" of some sort, with our various % numbers. Just sit with the calculator for a few minutes, for the weight you are at, and jot down the 20, 25, 30, 35, and even higher numbers.

It's a revelation, in that if you are a "all or nothing" type of person, you can learn to ease up on yourself. It's not 20%-or-might-as-well-eat-everything.

You can regularly eat your 25% if that works for you, or 30 or 35.

you might have a team lunch on a DD, and realize that your day might go to 40%. And you'll be ok. (as long as that's not *every* DD.).

I know this was a big A-HA moment for me-- and like I have in my sig below-- any attempt at a DD is a good attempt.

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Old 11-05-2013, 12:03 PM   #5
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Well if it were me, I would total my cals for DD/UD.. Then I would take what I ate from the big total, and what is left is what I would eat for UD. It could be wrong, because I'm a newbie. It makes sense to me.
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Old 11-05-2013, 01:06 PM   #6
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Well if it were me, I would total my cals for DD/UD.. Then I would take what I ate from the big total, and what is left is what I would eat for UD. It could be wrong, because I'm a newbie. It makes sense to me.
I wouldn't do this simply because it's too easy then to make every day restricted and then this just becomes another low calorie diet. There's some sort of magic that happens with the high swing between the UD and DD numbers. Even if you have a higher DD, keep your UD at your limit. JMHO.
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I don't ever do super low DD's. My body has simply not been able to tolerate them.

Mine range from 500-800c
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Old 11-05-2013, 01:31 PM   #8
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Thank you for that further explanation Dawn! <3
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Totally agree with Dawn!
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I wouldn't do this simply because it's too easy then to make every day restricted and then this just becomes another low calorie diet. There's some sort of magic that happens with the high swing between the UD and DD numbers. Even if you have a higher DD, keep your UD at your limit. JMHO.
Dawn was writing it while I was walking my dog and thinking it

That's why I suggest having your list of acceptable (in whatever your opinion is) numbers from 20%-35% or whatever, and use that to guide your UD and DDs, and those "real life" days that happen to all of us.

On a regular basis, a lot of people seem to do best with: 1) planning, both UD and DD and 2)not freaking out

As a JB says-- rotate, relax, rejoice

to Kissa on that one!

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Old 11-05-2013, 02:26 PM   #11
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Thanks girls! You more seasoned ladies know what you are talking about! =D I am thankful for this forum!
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:09 PM   #12
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Thank you for all the great replies. Soren, I totally love the stickie note idea!!!

Awesome stuff.

I'll play with my down day calories for a week and see how it goes.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:30 PM   #13
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Totally agree with Dawn!
Yup! Don't subtract calories from your UD to use on your DD.
Some of use subtract 200 from our DD to carry to our UD which works for some of us. You want the biggest swing possible between UD and DD on as regular a basis as is possible.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:34 PM   #14
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I had a bowl of soup for about 170 calories, plus 3 cups of coffee over the day to amount to about 120. Then, just now I had a chocolate/banana milk shake for 130 calories. I feel satisfied, for 420 cals total, which is 64 calories over my 20%.
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