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Old 10-31-2013, 06:41 AM   #1
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No Weigh November

No Weigh November

Putting the scales away for all of November until the end of the month and then maintaining my current way of eating, Primal/Nutritional Ketosis for me, and tracking calories/carbs to make sure I'm hitting my macros daily.

We can come back to this thread for any motivation to keep going and not give in to peaking at the scale.


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Weight: 192.4
Left Arm: 12.5in
Right Arm: 13.25in
Left Thigh: 22in
Right Thigh: 21.5in
Waist: 33.5in
Hips: 39in
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:33 AM   #2
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I'm not quite ready to put my scale away, but I'll be following with interest. Thanks, Mike!
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Old 10-31-2013, 08:22 AM   #3
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I was more comfortable when I wasn't weighing.
I think I'll weigh twice in November - the middle and the last day.
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Old 10-31-2013, 09:52 AM   #4
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I'm in!

I'm going to count on coming back here for motivation and to keep me on the straight and narrow as regards the scale. I think I will move it out of sight so it doesn't taunt me.

November Goals:
*Exercise at least 4 times per week
*Keep good rotations - mostly 500/2000 to support my increased activity
*Occasionally lower DDs to keep my metabolism guessing

Starting weight: 180.5
Neck: 13.25"
Bicep: 13.5"
Forearm: 10.0"
Chest: 36.5"
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:50 PM   #5
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I am in! For years and years I have made it to that magic number on the scale and then apparently had some kind of mental freak out because every time I would put 15 pounds right back on. In fact, last year I went into maintenance just to avoid that number which was 1 pound away!

Now I am ready to continue my weight loss but simply need to keep away from the scale and just go by how I feel and how my clothes fit. I am doing this to avoid another scale disaster and keep me focused on how I feel when I eat better/ healthier in general. (I have had many UUAD both pre and during JUDDD.) I want to get better control of this aspect of my life and just try to settle into a smaller body and be more comfortable with myself.

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Weight: 147
Chest: 38
Waist: 32
Hips: 42
Thighs: 25
Calves: 15
Neck: 13
Upper arm: 13

I am glad we are in this together and I appreciate you starting this thread Mike. Thanks!
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:37 PM   #6
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I'm in too

I must weigh on Saturday morning as it's after my DD.
Then no more for the month....It's rather difficult as I am a
once a weeker and I've only lost one pound since August.
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Old 10-31-2013, 11:17 PM   #7
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:20 AM   #8
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I definitely want to observe - and someday be able to put my scale away and not live by the number... I wish everyone well - I'll cheer you on!!
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What a brilliant thread idea Mike.

However, weighing helps keep me accountable, so I'll miss you guys on the daily weigh-in.

Have a wonderful month!
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Old 11-01-2013, 05:39 AM   #10
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Weird morning without the scale, and I'm glad I put it away, because I was on automatic pilot and prepared to hop right on without thinking about it. And of course it was not there. Felt off but I'll get used to it and not worrying about it will make the morning much more stress free.

I do have a yearly physical coming up and I will have to close my eyes and tell the nurse to just keep it to herself. I'm hoping my doctor can order some more in depth tests to see exactly where I am with all the relevant markers, if he won't then I'm going to go ahead and spend the money on doing it through WellnessFX so I can get a real in depth analysis done.

I have a road trip on Saturday for a college visit for my daughter, so I'll be looking for some keto friendly meals along the way but really that shouldn't be too hard and then Sunday I'll be preparing lunch/dinner for the week to make sure I'm sticking to plan. Last week I failed to prepare anything and had to improvise with some meals that fit my macros but just were not that great.

Hope everyone has a great start to November and has success in their plan!
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Ok, after I posted earlier this morning, and read thru this thread - I got the idea stuck in my head and it won't leave. So - I'm going to give this a shot. Don't know if I will succeed, but here's my reasoning - when I got on the scale today it fluctuated 1/2 pound - no big deal if I'm not living by the "number" right? I'm a daily weigher, but have been noticing lately that the number "IS" affecting how I feel. Realistically I tell myself "I am NOT a number." The number is one indicator, blah blah blah - but I don't really believe it or I wouldn't be trying to get the fluctuation to land on the lower number - since I don't want to see a "6" in the middle for the whole moth of November and the scale is reading 159.5 or 160. AND I write on my chart 159.75 JUST SO I DON'T HAVE TO SEE THE 6!

I need to start exercising - and sad to say, one thing holding me back is I know from past experience that my weight will either stall or go up - and given the importance I'm giving to the NUMBER rather than how I look, feel or measure... you get the picture.

Then CactusRose reminded me of a discussion we had just a short while ago - about getting to a certain weight and in my case - sabotaging myself. It was a "duh" moment - I need to stop weighing for November, get back to exercise, pull out the measuring tape and get on board.

Add in the fact that there is support now - here in this thread - and it's fate... I need this! So - ignore what I said in my last post... I'm in! Can you tell it was a long discussion with myself and I'm one of those who needs NUMEROUS reasons to do things. Sheesh.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:18 AM   #12
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I just can't do it. I'm still weighing every two weeks, but with vacation coming up I might have to hold off until no weigh January. I will be reading with avid interest though. Good Luck to you all!
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:52 AM   #13
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I'm so glad several more have joined in. This is going to be such an interesting experiment, and one that I hope helps me have a better relationship not only with the scale, but with "my" number on it.

I thought I'd be a little freaked out this morning to not weigh. In fact, last night thinking about it, I was nervous. Can I really do this? What if I get off track not having to be accountable? Etc. etc.

But I felt strangely free and wonderful about it this morning. I had some Halloween treats last night and didn't feel guilty. This morning I got in a good workout, and I'm looking forward to a great DD today!

Oh, and I didn't hide the scale. Decided not to for now. I keep mine in my hall bathroom so it doesn't stare at me first thing in the morning. My mom doesn't have a scale and uses mine when she comes over once every week or two, so I didn't want to make it harder for her/us. If it starts to haunt me, I'll move it out of sight.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:16 AM   #14
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While I'm still weighing daily, you all inspired me to take measurements this morning, so I'll record them here even though I'm not doing the challenge if that's okay.

9/8/13:
Weight: 149.4
Neck: 13
Bust: 37
Rib Cage: 32
Waist (smallest part): 30
Navel: 33.5
Hips: 39
L Thigh: 22
L Calf: 12.5
L Bicep: 10.5
L Forearm: 8.75
Wrist: 6.0
Body Fat % according to the Navy BF calculator: 26.89% (Healthy)

11/1/13:
Weight: 146.4
Neck: 13
Bust: 36.5
Rib Cage: 31.25
Waist (smallest part): 29
Navel: 33
Hips: 37.5
L Thigh: 21.25
L Calf: 12
L Bicep: 10.25
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Body Fat % according to the Navy BF calculator: 24% (Fit)!!!
ETA: Fat mass: 35 lbs, Lean Mass: 111 lbs. This actually shows an increase in lean mass from the last time I tracked it (can't remember when) but lean mass was 108 or so IIRC.

I was surprised to see changes since I've been pretty stable with my weight give or take a few pounds. Let this be a lesson (even to me!) that body composition DOES continue to change even after the weight loss stops.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:59 AM   #15
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Goner, I am so glad you decided to join us. Yes we had this discussion on my Returning to WLM and a it's a bit scary.... thread. I can totally relate to seeing a "bad" number. This happened to me about a month ago and it put me in a bad mood for days. After that I really didn't track very closely how I was eating and now put on another 5 this past month. And besides that I have been feeling terrible physically I believe because of my poor eating habits. Time for me to make a change in my outlook.

So very stoked that Mike decided to start this thread cause I think I am going to need the support and accountability. I don't know what is going on, but my head doesn't seem to be where it needs to be for WLM. Still, if I am unhappy with my body and how comfortable I feel in my skin then there you have it--it is time for me to act.

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UD: 1900
DD: 700 or less (when I "allow" myself the possibility of 700, often I eat closer to 500) Yes I am very mental….
Exercise: 3 days per week of walk/running and/or weights

Will try on a pair of favorite "wintery" pants once weekly to see how they are fitting and will celebrate when I can actually sit down in them and breathe! Right now I am able to pull those pants over my hips but still about 3 inches from being able to button.
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I hadn't thought of a clothing item Barb, but the wintery pants sound like a good idea to track your progress. I will have to measure myself and post the stats - I have no idea as I haven't measured in years - but will be interesting to see how they change after a month! I don't think right now I have any clothes that are too small - so measuring tape it is!
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I'm here with you all too!

Weigh-in - November 1 at 121#!

Will not weigh again until Thanksgving Morning and then again on December 1. I'm hoping to get rid of 4 #!

Good Luck to each and every one of us!
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I think this is wonderful and as soon as I have a few more months of JUDDD under my belt (ha!) I will be giving it a try!

Good luck to all of you, I am looking forward to cheering you on!
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I do have a yearly physical coming up and I will have to close my eyes and tell the nurse to just keep it to herself. I'm hoping my doctor can order some more in depth tests to see exactly where I am with all the relevant markers, if he won't then I'm going to go ahead and spend the money on doing it through WellnessFX so I can get a real in depth analysis done.

I too have my yearly physical coming the middle of December! This year my insurance still pays 100% for all blood test and/or lab tests but come 2014 I will have a high co-pay Last year I had blood tests for sugar and the lipid panel - both were good! Is there some other tests you feel would be good to get? I mentioned last year about other tests and the doctor said he would check me this year for vitamin D3 also. What does relevant markers mean?

Thanks to all who can recommend what I should get!

By the was I'm a senior and now get medicare, but also have other insurance to help pay for what medicare does not!
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Don't know what happened to my above post , I was trying to "quote" Mike! Also see some errors too! But then I am old!
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No weighing is harder than I thought. So far I have weighed each day. The thoughts that went thru my head were not good - I began to think, well if I don't weigh myself, perhaps I can eat " " and not have to see the damage - That is scary thinking... and dieting /eating is a mental game for me. If my thoughts go bad... my eating follows... not sure what I'm going to do...

How are the other no-weighers doing?
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[quote=leonak;16668161][QUOTE=

I do have a yearly physical coming up and I will have to close my eyes and tell the nurse to just keep it to herself. I'm hoping my doctor can order some more in depth tests to see exactly where I am with all the relevant markers, if he won't then I'm going to go ahead and spend the money on doing it through WellnessFX so I can get a real in depth analysis done.

I too have my yearly physical coming the middle of December! This year my insurance still pays 100% for all blood test and/or lab tests but come 2014 I will have a high co-pay Last year I had blood tests for sugar and the lipid panel - both were good! Is there some other tests you feel would be good to get? I mentioned last year about other tests and the doctor said he would check me this year for vitamin D3 also. What does relevant markers mean?

Thanks to all who can recommend what I should get!

By the was I'm a senior and now get medicare, but also have other insurance to help pay for what medicare does not![/quote]

I'm not sure what additional tests or markers you would be looking for, I'm interested in testosterone and the ratio's for my cholesterol and the count of the LDL large vs. small particles, and inflammation markers as well. Anything that would say I'm doing a good job or I might need to do some tweaking. I feel good, but there could be some hidden indicators that might indicate some further investigation would be needed or tweaks to bring some numbers back to good ranges.

I can't really compare it to my last set of blood work because I have changed so much and my diet changed so much since then, but I'll have a baseline for the next set of tests.
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No weighing is harder than I thought. So far I have weighed each day. The thoughts that went thru my head were not good - I began to think, well if I don't weigh myself, perhaps I can eat " " and not have to see the damage - That is scary thinking... and dieting /eating is a mental game for me. If my thoughts go bad... my eating follows... not sure what I'm going to do...

How are the other no-weighers doing?
Using not weighing as an "excuse" to eat more or eat off plan on a consistent basis would be a bad idea. The goal is to not let the little things like an UD's worth of eating which might bounce the scale up the next day, cause you to overcompensate and restrict further starving yourself, punishing yourself, for simply sticking to your plan. The same goes for a drop in the weight causing you to treat yourself and reward yourself with some more food because you have earned it because you dropped some weight that day. The constant cycling of reward and restriction based on a daily weight change is damaging and counter productive in the long run. So you don't weigh each day and stick to your plan and way of eating as best you can and then at the end of the month track your progress.

That doesn't mean you won't go off plan, for an unexpected event or an expected event, or even a mistake (like me not realizing how many freaking carbs are in a whole milk latte at Starbucks!). But you don't sweat that small bump, because while it could result in a bounce in your weight the next day if you weighed, it is temporary in the long run and truly doesn't count because your going to jump right back on plan the next meal or the next day. But you don't have to worry about the weight aspect because your not even going to check, it's not even a factor.

It's not about "not seeing the damage", it's about not worrying about temporary inevitable fluctuations that occur when you go off plan, or even when you stay on plan and cannot explain that fluctuation, which happens to everyone. A bounce after a DD? WTH? But it happens so we shouldn't worry about it and won't have to because we won't see those little changes.

I find that meal planning helps a bunch, planning out what your going to eat the next day or even better for the week. Then making a weeks worth of meals on Sunday. Then you have everything prepared, fitting your plan and you don't have to make any adhoc decisions about what to eat, just stick to your meal plan that fits your way of eating. Plan go to snacks too, that fit, in case your more hungry one day.

Also make sure your calories fit your actual activity levels, if you are very active and are working with a Sedentary activity levels in the JUDDD calculator or whatever system you used to figure out your calories, you may be eating too little, which will eventually lead to either a slow down in your metabolism or consistent "over eating". When in fact you are not really over eating, but over compensating for the fact that your consistently under eating. Which leads to guilt for "over eating", a bounce on the scale, and further restriction on an already too restricted calorie setting.

Work on your plan, your way of eating, get that in line and stick to it and the scale shouldn't matter and you will hopefully find the number you want at the end of the month.
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Wow Mike - really well put!

I'm doing surprisingly better at this no-weigh thing than I thought I would. I haven't weighed. I've upped my calories slightly due to my increased exercise intensity (I've started doing Sprint 8 workouts EOD), and I'm just trusting JUDDD and my body to do its work. I feel really relaxed about the whole thing.

I am anxious to see what my weight will be right before Thanksgiving, but then I'm doing what my mom always says not to do....wishing my life away!
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Thanks for the info Mike and for reminding me to get this test!

When I go to the Dr. in Dec. I will ask for that test too! It is called the lipoprotein particle profile test (LPP) for short. I heard about it on Dr. Oz when he had on Dr. Sinatra; since hearing about it I see that Medicare covers it and it is a test the Mayo clinic recommends also.

I found not stepping on the evil scale to be ! I am doing well about it and will not step on it!

Today was a UD and was super good. Tomorrow my DD is not planned yet, but only coffee until lunch time!

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Using not weighing as an "excuse" to eat more or eat off plan on a consistent basis would be a bad idea. The goal is to not let the little things like an UD's worth of eating which might bounce the scale up the next day, cause you to overcompensate and restrict further starving yourself, punishing yourself, for simply sticking to your plan. The same goes for a drop in the weight causing you to treat yourself and reward yourself with some more food because you have earned it because you dropped some weight that day. The constant cycling of reward and restriction based on a daily weight change is damaging and counter productive in the long run. So you don't weigh each day and stick to your plan and way of eating as best you can and then at the end of the month track your progress.

That doesn't mean you won't go off plan, for an unexpected event or an expected event, or even a mistake (like me not realizing how many freaking carbs are in a whole milk latte at Starbucks!). But you don't sweat that small bump, because while it could result in a bounce in your weight the next day if you weighed, it is temporary in the long run and truly doesn't count because your going to jump right back on plan the next meal or the next day. But you don't have to worry about the weight aspect because your not even going to check, it's not even a factor.

It's not about "not seeing the damage", it's about not worrying about temporary inevitable fluctuations that occur when you go off plan, or even when you stay on plan and cannot explain that fluctuation, which happens to everyone. A bounce after a DD? WTH? But it happens so we shouldn't worry about it and won't have to because we won't see those little changes.

I find that meal planning helps a bunch, planning out what your going to eat the next day or even better for the week. Then making a weeks worth of meals on Sunday. Then you have everything prepared, fitting your plan and you don't have to make any adhoc decisions about what to eat, just stick to your meal plan that fits your way of eating. Plan go to snacks too, that fit, in case your more hungry one day.

Also make sure your calories fit your actual activity levels, if you are very active and are working with a Sedentary activity levels in the JUDDD calculator or whatever system you used to figure out your calories, you may be eating too little, which will eventually lead to either a slow down in your metabolism or consistent "over eating". When in fact you are not really over eating, but over compensating for the fact that your consistently under eating. Which leads to guilt for "over eating", a bounce on the scale, and further restriction on an already too restricted calorie setting.

Work on your plan, your way of eating, get that in line and stick to it and the scale shouldn't matter and you will hopefully find the number you want at the end of the month.
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:40 AM   #27
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Thanks Mike for all that input. I appreciate it.
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So far I haven't had the urge to hop on the scale. I really can't believe it. I thought I'd be absolutely nutty thinking about what info I don't have. But I feel so much peace with it.

I feel very confident that I'll have decent losses when I weigh on the 27th. Just in time for Thanksgiving! I may even do a no-weigh December, weighing just before Christmas, or maybe just weigh twice that month. Too soon to know for sure or commit, but I'm contemplating it.
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I too have not stepped on the scale! I did think about it and when I was near it I told myself "No"! What a great relief it is as many times it is not a pleasant surprise!

Today was UD for me and I still have about 200 calories left! Not sure what I'll have.

I still like my sweets - had a half piece of pumpkin pie (dh had the other half) and one chocolate chip cookie today!

How are you all doing?
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This morning I stepped on the scale

To the tune of 4 # gone!

Anyone else give in to that evil thing?

Yesterday we woke up to about 5" of snow! Most is now gone, but it is cold with snow cover, but then this is Wisconsin!
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