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Old 07-17-2013, 03:44 PM   #31
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My biggest problem with JUDDDD is that I can never eat to my UD caloris (2038). I struggled just the other day to eat up to those, forcing myself to get as close as I could, and I gained two pounds.

I thought...I'm not doing this. And I'm not. I had a great DD the day after that and yesterday, for my UD, I ate how I've been eating for the past few weeks. Happily, those pounds are gone.

What I've decided to do in my limited experience is to listen to my body. If I'm hungry, then I'll eat. If I'm not, then I won't. Simple as that. Depending on the day, that will be my "normal" food (which is limited as it is) or plain potatoes (with occasional fruit).
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:52 PM   #32
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I have to wonder if a lifetime of restricting calories or an extended period of time (years) could predispose you to a faulty metabolism. One where you could not eat at JUDDD UD levels and lose weight. I have never really dieted for any amount of time successfully, and my losses are still agonizingly slow. So, that theory doesn't work in my case lol. Plus there a few people here who've said that they've lost 70+ lbs in the past and are doing it again with JUDDD pretty quickly... ok, so that theory is a bust.

ETA: I also am not nearly as strict as some of the fast losers here. If I followed the plan without fail, kept DD calories below 300, never overate on UDs, never had multiple UDs, never went off-plan, I'd be 50-60 lbs lighter instead of 30. I've never considered giving up on my goal, although I have considered changing my WOE a few times (but, really, what else is there that is as awesome as this?!)...I have known that I would be back on plan after every break I've taken, or every extra UD I allowed.
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Old 07-17-2013, 04:08 PM   #33
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And we all run at different speeds. I lost weight for the first 20 pounds doing 500/2000 then dropped DD's but not the UD's and kept on losing. I would lose too much if I ate Leo's calories of 400/1400. I guess that means my metabolism is fine. As long as I do EOD with very los DD's and whatever on UD's I can maintain just fine. If I want to go back into WLM I just have to control the UD's better and I start the downward trend again. That is why I like potato DD's. I can eat more calories yet still maintain. tHIS IS SO MUCH FUN TO ESPERIMENT WITH AND NOT GAIN A TON overnight. Oops caps lock. Although my 11 pound gain in 3 wild days last week are coming off nicely. Within 3 pounds of my before GA weight this morning.
If anyone read the menu thread where I entered my food into ********and found out I had eaten over 800 calories for a what I thought was a normal sounding breakfast would see that I have no trouble eating a lot of calories on an UD. AND that did not include Blue Bell.
I LOVE JUDDD because it allows me to enjoy food without obsessing about it.
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Old 07-17-2013, 04:52 PM   #34
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Adi, I had a breakfast that was all total about 1700 calories two weeks ago. I wonder how many people do that every day? That would explain a lot of the problems people have with their weight! Needless to say, it wasn't worth it and I won't do it again (soon).
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:51 PM   #35
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Hi guys, great question!

I echo what Leo said. I emailed with Dr. Johnson a couple of times and he told me the UD calories were there mainly to compute DD calories. He told me to eat to appetite and not stress about eating to the number on the UDs.

I'm like Leo however, in that I truly have to be around 900-1000 cals/ave to lose weight. It sucks, but after a while you get really good at optimizing your nutrition on very few cals. Now and then, when I'm feeling put upon, I will eat an UUAD or UUAWkend.

But mostly I eat 500/1400-1500. Some UDs, I'm just barely at 1200!
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:21 PM   #36
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I have a friend who is doing amazingly well on 700/1700, she's been dieting now for almost a year but on JUDDD for several months, she's actually losing more on these numbers than she was on 500/1800. Maybe this fits with the too much stress theory?
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Old 07-18-2013, 06:01 AM   #37
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Lanark, those are the exact numbers Beeb used to do with JUDDD. She reportedly lost very well on those numbers too. I wasn't around when Beeb was doing JUDDD, but some of her posts are here in the forum. I think 1700/700 would work well for me too. I can do the 700, but keeping the UD to 1700 would be tricky.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:03 AM   #38
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I have a friend who is doing amazingly well on 700/1700, she's been dieting now for almost a year but on JUDDD for several months, she's actually losing more on these numbers than she was on 500/1800. Maybe this fits with the too much stress theory?
Something like this happened to me too. I think there is a kind of stress response that can kick in for some people, especially when you add exercise in the mix.
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:46 PM   #39
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Trial and error is the way forward I suppose. Just not too much error, lol.
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Great discussion.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:33 PM   #41
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Old 07-19-2013, 03:03 AM   #42
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I guess it's hard to know for sure but the calculator numbers are a good starting spot. My UD number is 1580, but even with half an hour of vigorous exercise I don't always burn that much in a full day according to my fit bit, but since going back into WLM 12 days ago I have lost 3.3 pounds so I really can't complain. I keep my DDs under 300 for the most part but UDs can really vary and I don't count them very closely like I do for DDs. I'm just glad that I don't feel restricted on UDs and that juddd has given me wonderful appetite suppression.
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Old 07-19-2013, 06:38 AM   #43
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I better pay attention to those UD numbers because I am one that can easily double them without any trouble. And remember that Dr. J came up with this plan mostly using other people's existing research. Not that that is bad but since everyone is unique, it stands to reason that some CANNOT just eat what they want on UD's and others that need to eat more than they think they should on UD's. Like Cindy said, trial and error until you find the magic spot. I still do well on 300/2000 range for maintenance. For WLM I have to drop the 2000 to at least 1800 and for really fast results down to 1600. And I am rarely in a hurry so I don't do very many low UD's. What I do probably won't work for others but it is what trial and error shows to work for me. BUT I cannot do anything but EOD or I will immediately start gaining. Now that was a bummer to find out.
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