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Lanarkwitch 07-17-2013 03:07 AM

Interesting Stats On Average Weight Loss
 
The other day I was reading up on a site thats pretty much dedicated to the 5:2 plan ,who have rather smartly been asking their users to submit their weight loss to their online tracker. I found the results quite interesting (although hardly scientific I admit)

Their claims are so far, 5:2 ( 2937 members) av loss per week 1.08lbs, 4:3 (169 members) av 1.28 lbs per week and ADF (only 34 members) av 1.45 per week.

Although the results are fairly skewed by the large number of 5:2 members versus other plans I have to admit the 1.28lbs per week for 4:3 sounds about right for my own numbers, however I have never lost anything doing 5:2.

It will be interesting to see how the stats move along over time.

VioletsGrandMom 07-17-2013 03:51 AM

Interesting - I am doing 4:3 but only recently began watching my calories on my 4 up days. I was stuck for a really long time but I think I am starting to see movement down now. I have been sick (diverticulitis) so I will have to keep track when I start to eat normally again.

JKat 07-17-2013 04:34 AM

What does 4:3 mean?? Sorry if its a stupid question

Carly 07-17-2013 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JKat (Post 16518526)
What does 4:3 mean?? Sorry if its a stupid question

4:3 is having 3 fixed DDs. Say M,W,F. It is not EOD fasting or ADF since there are 2 UDs in a row at some point.

The loss seems high for 5:2. I don't lose at all on 5:2.

Lanarkwitch 07-17-2013 04:43 AM

I agree with you Carly I think as 5:2 is enjoying great popularity in the UK you might have a lot of week 1 losses in there and not many who've been on the diet for more than a month, the week I tried 5:2 I gain almost half a pound !

Lanarkwitch 07-17-2013 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by VioletsGrandMom (Post 16518520)
Interesting - I am doing 4:3 but only recently began watching my calories on my 4 up days. I was stuck for a really long time but I think I am starting to see movement down now. I have been sick (diverticulitis) so I will have to keep track when I start to eat normally again.

I watch my cals on UD's during the week, at the weekend I don't count as we tend to eat out and its pretty much impossible to even guess what I have, it's a lot though :dunno:

Sirtain 07-17-2013 06:23 AM

Here are my stats, if we want to keep track of our own losses as a group.

I have been JUDDDing(ADF) for 19 weeks and I have released 26 pounds for a weekly average of 1.36 pounds. Since that includes several 'cheats', I think I am doing pretty well.

KeirasMom 07-17-2013 06:59 AM

The results could also be skewed by how much the reporting parties weigh. With ADF, I started out averaging about 3 pounds per week (when I had a LOT to lose) and as I got closer to goal, it slowed to around 1 to 1.5 pounds per week. I understand that's fairly common.

That being said, I went into maintenance in January and switched to 5:2 and did continue to lose. It stabilized about 7 pounds down from when I went into maintenance.

ravenrose 07-17-2013 08:19 AM

these numbers would be so much more useful if people continued to report after they stop losing fast. I am not knocking THIS plan at all, I mean the same for everything. the ability to stick longterm and not regain is the key, not exactly how fast people lose when they stick to it.

I firmly believe that the inability to stick to plans is largely hormonal, and a relevant measure of the plan's usefulness rather than a sign of individual weakness. It sounds like JUDDD is pretty good for this, but we don't really know because people tend to be ashamed when they "fail" and stop reporting.

Lanarkwitch 07-17-2013 11:11 AM

I am happy to share, my first time out with 4:3 I lost 12lbs in 6 weeks, I then went off plan for 2 weeks around the time of my birthday and had only a minor gain and got it off within 2 weeks, then my life got turned upside down and I was off plan for 15 weeks give or take, I gained approx 16lbs in that time, I was very very disappointed that the weight came back on so quickly I kept trying to get back to it and failing on my DD's in the end I gave up and switched to something else and started to get my head back in the right place, I came fully back to 4:3 2 weeks ago and again I find I am really struggling on DD's, I found it really really easy the first time round and now I really have to battle to get through the day. But I have lost 7lbs of my gain so that's keeping me motivated.

calichris 07-17-2013 11:28 AM

I just read the 5:2 book and Dr. Mosely suggests that although you really can't predict for any one person, you can expect to lose something like 7 pounds in 8 weeks following 5:2. I think this is about what I'd lose on it ... if I started it at my current weight, two 500 calorie down days would give me about a 3,000 calorie deficit a week, which is almost a pound, assuming no exercise and that my up day calories were right at maintenance. So it would be a bit slower, but the tradeoff is that it is a bit easier.

I've lost an average of 1.25 pounds a week on JUDDD, including some breaks and not doing it perfectly all the time. Most of the bigger loss months were closer to start as you would expect. :)

Carly, didn't you try 5:2 at your goal (at the time)?

Lanarkwitch 07-18-2013 12:40 AM

I have read many many posts regarding 5:2 on various forums and the general consensus is it prob works for about 8 weeks and then stops and most then have to move to 4:3 or really start restricting on UD's and exercising like mad things, I'm a lazier type of dieter.

jrudq 07-19-2013 05:55 AM

When I was younger, any diet modification resulted in weight loss. I think I would have done great on 5:2 with a little exercise thrown in. Now? Not so much. While I did 5:2 for five weeks and lost weight, I had to restrict my calorie intake to 1200 calories on my 5 days and 500 on two. ADF is just so much easier and satisfying.
I don't believe those numbers...

Sirtain 07-19-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jrudq (Post 16521761)
I don't believe those numbers...

Which ones?

Librarygirl 07-19-2013 11:08 AM

I did 5:2 twice at my same JUDDD numbers, and some days were lower, none higher. All I was able to do was maintain. I don't see how 2000 calories a day, plus two 500 cal days could result in much weight loss. Maybe over a long period of time, possibly, but not much (for me).

calichris 07-19-2013 12:40 PM

If you maintained on 2000 calories a day, and had two 500 calorie days, you'd have a 3000 calorie deficit in a week, all other things being equal, and a pound is 3,500 calories. But there are so many variables that affect that calculation, and to make it even more imprecise up day calories are not counted on 5:2, so people might eat less or more than their maintenance calories on their up days.

Carly 07-19-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by calichris (Post 16519236)
I just read the 5:2 book and Dr. Mosely suggests that although you really can't predict for any one person, you can expect to lose something like 7 pounds in 8 weeks following 5:2. I think this is about what I'd lose on it ... if I started it at my current weight, two 500 calorie down days would give me about a 3,000 calorie deficit a week, which is almost a pound, assuming no exercise and that my up day calories were right at maintenance. So it would be a bit slower, but the tradeoff is that it is a bit easier.

I've lost an average of 1.25 pounds a week on JUDDD, including some breaks and not doing it perfectly all the time. Most of the bigger loss months were closer to start as you would expect. :)

Carly, didn't you try 5:2 at your goal (at the time)?

I lost 62 pounds with EOD rotations from 3/28/12- 2/5/13.
From 2/6/13-3/6/13 I did 4:3 and lost 3 more pounds.
I did 5:2 from 3/7/13- 7/6/13 and lost nothing but my high bounce got higher by about 3 pounds.
I went back to EOD rotations on 7/7/13 and I have lost 3.3 pounds- basically the bounce up I got on 5:2.

SlowSure 07-20-2013 01:53 AM

5:2 is popular among men in the UK (possibly because Dr Mosely popularised it so it has less stigma than other weight loss programmes). Without a gender breakdown, it's possible that men are losing more with 5:2 and that's influencing the reported losses?

Even in the City/financial district of London, chain restaurants advertise their 5:2 meals with an A-board outside. (which may say something about their customer base).

Redeemed 07-20-2013 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lanarkwitch (Post 16520092)
I have read many many posts regarding 5:2 on various forums and the general consensus is it prob works for about 8 weeks and then stops and most then have to move to 4:3 or really start restricting on UD's and exercising like mad things, I'm a lazier type of dieter.

This is what I concluded as well after looking into 5:2. It looks like a tweaked version of JUDDD to me. The 5:2 would be great for maintenance, I think.

Carly 07-20-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Redeemed (Post 16523224)
This is what I concluded as well after looking into 5:2. It looks like a tweaked version of JUDDD to me. The 5:2 would be great for maintenance, I think.

That is exactly what I use 5:2 for- maintaining. I also don't track UDs and eat 300 or less on DDs when doing 5:2. I held 127-124 for 4 mos with 5:2.

Sirtain 07-20-2013 09:28 AM

I am hoping that 5:2 will be the perfect maintenance method for me. I feel so good from my Down Days that I don't want to give them(or the SIRT1action) up, but I can see that the added flexibility might be nice.

That's in the future, though. Right now, I am loving EOD.

calichris 07-20-2013 10:04 AM

I was thinking 5:2 might also be nice short term for anyone needing a break from EOD for a while or if you need a little flexibility for life events and OK with maintaining/losing more slowly on a short-term basis. :)

mommyto3nj 07-20-2013 10:27 PM

What is ADF?

pooticus 07-20-2013 10:41 PM

ADF=Alternate Day Fasting

kitty_el 07-25-2013 11:56 AM

My mum has lost 21 pounds on 5:2 in 6 weeks. She has about 50lb total to lose.
She has been 'loosely' watching her calories on the 5 days but still drinking alcohol and eating 500 or less the other two days.

She has lost more than me and I am doing EOD and she is 30 years older - not fair!!!! lol

LoCarbGal 07-25-2013 04:51 PM

Congratulations to your mom! You're right, it's no fair that she's losing faster. But we're all so different.

Lanarkwitch 08-20-2013 02:04 AM

Just an update on this, the official 5:2 diet forum ( the MM one) seems to be reflecting a lot of people who either aren't seeing any weight loss after several weeks or have stalled for long periods of time, I knew those average numbers were skewed.!

lylydvd 08-20-2013 04:30 AM

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t, two 500 calorie down days would give me about a 3,000 calorie deficit a week, which is almost a pound
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Their claims are so far, 5:2 ( 2937 members) av loss per week 1.08lbs
i believe these numbers they're very logical ...
you may gain 2 pounds or more after switching to 5:2 but it's all water you won't gain fat while you're cutting 3000 calories a week...it still about calories in vs calories out ..
if you gain any fat on 5:2 then check again either your calories or your thyroid

Lanarkwitch 08-20-2013 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lylydvd (Post 16566298)
i believe these numbers they're very logical ...
you may gain 2 pounds or more after switching to 5:2 but it's all water you won't gain fat while you're cutting 3000 calories a week...it still about calories in vs calories out ..
if you gain any fat on 5:2 then check again either your calories or your thyroid

I think it's logical when you are counting calories on non fasting days and not going over your maintenance numbers, however the whole idea of 5:2 doesn't stand with counting on non fasting days or that other horrible word they use, feasting days blaaaaargh

Carly 08-20-2013 06:06 AM

Also, I think 5:2 says 2000/500 and that is just 2 DDs a week. My JUDDD numbers are 1550/312 with 3 or 4 DDs per week. For me that is a huge calorie difference. I maintain beautifully on 5:2 with UDs 1700-1400/300, but 5:2 woukd not cause me to lose as written.


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