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Old 07-06-2013, 07:57 PM   #121
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Hello everyone. I am so encouraged to forge ahead. Thank you all for the welcome and wonderful posts. I am down 4 pounds and feeling great. Thank you all for being here
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Also hit a new low today! YAY!
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So, after one DD, and UD, then another DD, I was up on the scale this morning. Is that normal in the beginning?
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Piglet, it sure can be!! The scale bounces can be rough sometimes! Keep plugging along! Have you checked out the monthly weigh in threads? You can see the patterns of various people's bounces there. Carly has a cool thread on it, too. I will try to find it, or maybe she can pop in and link ya!
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Flutter, it posted, and is a good link! This makes me feel better, and I think I'll post a log on the wall next to the scale so that I can get a good visual like this. Thanks!
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Flutter, it posted, and is a good link! This makes me feel better, and I think I'll post a log on the wall next to the scale so that I can get a good visual like this. Thanks!
Yay, glad it worked! Great idea on the post by your scale! The scale is evil!!!! Ignore it and keep to rotations!!! It will eventually be forced to play nice!
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Hi there,

Carly sent me over from the Newbie thread. I just started JUDD yesterday with a DD at 170lbs. After counting all my calories I was at 487. So high as I'm suppose to be around 390 for a DD and 1798 for an UD. But I am prepared for tomorrows DD and should hit my mark more closely.

I do have a question regarding my up days. I track my calories on another site so I will continue to do so but 1800 is high for me normally unless I'm out to dinner etc.... So how important is it to be at that number? Could I go to 1300 -1500 and still lose or do I need a wider spread? Is the spread what makes this work?

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Hi Kristan, yes it's the spread that makes JUDDD so effective, i know it's a bit scary at first to have so much on an UD but you'll soon get used to it

I think Dr. J's book says to start off, for the first couple of weeks on JUDDD with DDs of 500 cals to get you into the swing of things - 8 or 9 weeks later i'm still on 500 cals which, from the calculator is around 30% weight loss mode. This suits me just fine and i'm still losing steadily. (i don't have my book at the moment i sent it to my daughter, she's in her second week of JUDDDing and loving it).

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You'll get a couple of different responses to this, but most of us have found that the spread is important, and it's a very good idea to get as close to your UD numbers as possible. I, myself, have found that if I don't eat enough, I stall. It's easier than you might imagine to get those calories up, simply by incorporating higher calorie foods on your UD. Think nuts, nut butters, avocados, add butter to your veggies, higher fat meats (save the boneless, skinless chicken and fish for DDs), cheese, and my personal favorites, wine and chocolate. You don't need a lot of volume for a good amount of calories with any of these items.
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I do have a question regarding my up days...1800 is high for me normally unless I'm out to dinner etc.... So how important is it to be at that number? Could I go to 1300 -1500 and still lose or do I need a wider spread? Is the spread what makes this work?
Just to say that I agree with FairyWren/Evie on the importance of the spread.

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Hi Kristan, yes it's the spread that makes JUDDD so effective, i know it's a bit scary at first to have so much on an UD but you'll soon get used to it
I know it seems like early days to be thinking about this, Kristan but JUDDD thinks about the longer term, when you're successful, and you may well be thankful that you made sure to maximise your calories from the outset, it gives you more options for adjusting them later on if you need that in your weight loss mode or to maintain your metabolism later.
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I do have a question regarding my up days...1800 is high for me normally unless I'm out to dinner etc.... So how important is it to be at that number? Could I go to 1300 -1500 and still lose or do I need a wider spread? Is the spread what makes this work?
Just to say that I agree with FairyWren/Evie on the importance of the spread.

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Hi Kristan, yes it's the spread that makes JUDDD so effective, i know it's a bit scary at first to have so much on an UD but you'll soon get used to it
I know it seems like early days to be thinking about this, Kristan but JUDDD thinks about the longer term, when you're successful. You may well be thankful that you made sure to maximise your calories from the outset, it gives you more options for adjusting them later on if you need that in your weight loss mode. It may also enable you to maintain your metabolism/stable weight at a higher intake of calories later, if you so wish.
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Hi Kristan!

You are doing great! For the first two weeks, 500 is the calorie number Dr. Johnson suggested. You can go lower if you want, but 487 is a GREAT down day! It is just perfect ... in no way off target. After the two weeks, you can stick to your 20% numbers or go higher. Several people here lost even better with higher DDs of about 700 calories, others did great with very low DDs ... you can find out what works for you. As long as you are in the weight loss range, you're doing it right! (I love this flexibility, personally. It helps me stay on track. If I'm really hungry on a DD, sometimes I just work through it, other times I go higher in the weight loss calories that day.)

About up day calories ... they are one of the best things about JUDDD, but they can be one of the hardest things to get used to at first. Think of it this way: those are your maintenance calories. If you ate those calories every day, theoretically your weight should stay about the same. Eating this number of calories every other day helps keep your metabolism up and makes your down days easier. It also gives the plan livability. You might feel like it's too many calories at first, but as counter-intuitive as it may seem right now, getting as close as you can will help, not hurt, your weight loss efforts. You don't have to be perfect, but if you ate 1300-1500 one day and 390 the next, I think you would ultimately lose more slowly and be stuck eating very low calories to maintain your weight, which is no fun. The spread is important.

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Great answers so far about the UD calories. I'm in total agreement about trying to get all or close to all your UD calories in. My experience has definitely been that if I go too low, the losses slow or stop. What a wonderful problem to have! And you won't have any trouble getting all those calories in once you're used to it. It makes for delightfully luxurious UD eating!
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Ok ladies it sounds like I should work towards meeting my UP calories today. Dinner planned is 3 cups of spaghetti squash with 2 70 calorie chicken sausages. I already made that but I can save it for tomorrow. If I had that dinner I would still be only at 800 calories for the day so was going to try and have 500 calories snacking while watching tv tonight.Bringing me only to 1300. I think your right Dawn to keep the chicken and fish for the DD.

So I'm going to change my dinner plans and make some pasta(which I have plenty in the pantry) with some real sausage if I can find them in the freezer. If not I'll use the chicken ones. Then snack on some cheese, olives and salami while watching TV. That should bring be up to the 1700 range at least. I will have to go track it and see.

On a side note been pushing my water. Have had 1/2 of a gallon thus far. On track to complete it. Thats 128 ozs. Does anyone put fresh lemon or true lemon in their water. I heard or read somewhere that the lemon can be helpful in weightloss. Not sure if that is true.

Thanks for helping me out. Your stats look awesome!

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Ok ladies it sounds like I should work towards meeting my UP calories today. Dinner planned is 3 cups of spaghetti squash with 2 70 calorie chicken sausages. I already made that but I can save it for tomorrow. If I had that dinner I would still be only at 800 calories for the day so was going to try and have 500 calories snacking while watching tv tonight.Bringing me only to 1300. I think your right Dawn to keep the chicken and fish for the DD.

So I'm going to change my dinner plans and make some pasta(which I have plenty in the pantry) with some real sausage if I can find them in the freezer. If not I'll use the chicken ones. Then snack on some cheese, olives and salami while watching TV. That should bring be up to the 1700 range at least. I will have to go track it and see.

On a side note been pushing my water. Have had 1/2 of a gallon thus far. On track to complete it. Thats 128 ozs. Does anyone put fresh lemon or true lemon in their water. I heard or read somewhere that the lemon can be helpful in weightloss. Not sure if that is true.

Thanks for helping me out. Your stats look awesome!

~ Kristan
I put lemon or true lemon in my water all the time. I don't really know if it helps weight loss, but I think it's refreshing and helps me drink more water.

Eat those UD calories. You will be so happy later on, when you are at goal and aren't stuck eating Barbie Doll meals
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I put lemon or true lemon in my water all the time. I don't really know if it helps weight loss, but I think it's refreshing and helps me drink more water.

Eat those UD calories. You will be so happy later on, when you are at goal and aren't stuck eating Barbie Doll meals
Carly,

That makes since to me. How you put it because if I lose the weight at 12 -1300 which I have been eating lately then my body is use to it so if I then eat 1700 I will begin to gain eventually. I am at 900 calories now and it is 7:30pm so I still have a ways to go. But I will do it! Another 800 calories. Geez such a problem.
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That makes since to me. How you put it because if I lose the weight at 12 -1300 which I have been eating lately then my body is use to it so if I then eat 1700 I will begin to gain eventually. I am at 900 calories now and it is 7:30pm so I still have a ways to go. But I will do it! Another 800 calories. Geez such a problem.
That is what I like to call a luxury problem

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if I lose the weight at 12 -1300 which I have been eating lately then my body is use to it so if I then eat 1700 I will begin to gain eventually. I am at 900 calories now and it is 7:30pm so I still have a ways to go. But I will do it! Another 800 calories. Geez such a problem.
I thought it was enlightening to start thinking about averages, too. So if you eat 1800 one day and 500 the next, your daily average is 1150 ... only you don't slow down your metabolism as much this way, if Dr. Johnson's theory is right. And somehow it's easier than low cal every day.

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Hi everybody!! I finished my 2 weeks of JUDDD and weighed this morning with a loss of 5.8 pounds I had a small bounce up this morning of .4 but oh well... I feel really good about this plan

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I just cannot seem to get my UD under control! I am losing overall, but I have to plan my UDs better. Yesterday was another 2300c day. Ack!

Today is going to come in just under 500c at 460
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I finished my 2 weeks of JUDDD and weighed this morning with a loss of 5.8 pounds I had a small bounce up this morning of .4 but oh well...
Kim, as you know, in the long run, the daily fluctuations of 6.5oz are neither here nor there, just data of interest as you travel along your JUDDD path. Well done on the overall loss of 5.8lbs and KUTGW

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It's great that you're losing. Is your UD that far outside your control if you're losing overall or does it feel worse-controlled than it is (IYSWIM)?

Are you actually hungry and that's driving your consumption or is it head hunger anxiety about wanting a buffer for the DD which some people report?
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I seriously don't understand how I can be 202.5 one day and then a day or two later.... back to 207. I really need to stop weighing every day.
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I seriously don't understand how I can be 202.5 one day and then a day or two later.... back to 207. I really need to stop weighing every day.
iirc Dr Johnson advised weighing once a week and essentially only after a DD.

Some of us find it useful as a way of tracking fluid or the influence of particular foodstuffs or even the impact of recovering from workouts or weight-training.

Daily weighing either works for you or it doesn't - it certainly isn't necessary. Several people weigh/report once a week or even every two weeks and that suits them: Once a week weighers
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I think I'm only going to weigh after DDs also...this morning I had lost my bounce plus a little more I am going to try to stick to once or twice a week weighing bc the upward bounce makes me feel like things aren't working...even though I know they are and I feel better to boot.

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