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Old 06-13-2013, 12:57 PM   #91
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NEVER would I have thought I could get by with so little to eat without feeling starved or light-headed. Beyound thrilled so far--

If the weather holds up, I am planning a nice walk this evening.
Good for you. It's always heartening to read someone managing to adapt to their DD so quickly because it's understandable that it's something that stirs up apprehension when starting out.

I hope the weather holds so that you might enjoy an evening walk.
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If you're comfortable going lower than 500 to start, that's perfectly fine. The 500 is just to get people used to the low calorie DDs.
Thanks Dawn. I think I will try for 400. So far I had one coffee w/half&half, and a diet shake w/some blueberries and I honestly feel full! If I do the exact same shake tonight, that will put me at just under 400 for the day. Hopefully I can get to bed super early as I didn't get enough sleep last night and didn't have the second coffee I usually have....sleeeeeeeepy.
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On DD #4......and so far it has been the easiest DD yet. I waited even longer than usual to eat and think I will be able to keep it well under 400 today (around 350)......
NEVER would I have thought I could get by with so little to eat without feeling starved or light-headed. Beyound thrilled so far--

If the weather holds up, I am planning a nice walk this evening.
So I have to pick your brain and ask what you ate today that kept you so satisfied? My stomach feels hungry all day from about 11:00 on after i've had my coffee with cream. The small meals don't stick with me long, but i make it through and go to bed early since i'm so hungry so i won't be tempted to eat and dream about what i get to eat the next day!

I wanted to ask everyone because i've read on line that a lot of people do their DD on monday,wednesday and friday so they can enjoy their weekends? I'm afraid two UD in a row would sabotage me?

also do you all have a secret meal that seems to keep you full the longest?
Thanks guys!
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:17 PM   #94
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Beebop, at first especially, protein holds you longer than most anything else. Examples are: deli turkey (about 25 cals for 1 oz), Laughing cow cheese (35 cals for a wedge), boiled egg (70 cals)...you can put some LC cheese on your slice of turkey, add a pickle and roll it up, cut into little bite size pieces for a meal. I usually eat 3 slices and I think that it's around 30-50 cals, and one wedge of LC cheese is more than enough. Pickle spear is about 5 cals and you can cut it to use in all three pieces. Also a cup of chicken broth is really, really helpful when you get hungry at 10 cals a cup. Also, celery spears cut into small strips and sprinkled with sea salt are remarkably filling and pleasing to the palate...same for broccoli spears (raw) and cauliflower. You can eat quite a bit of those veggies.

ETA: Also try broccoli slaw (found in the bagged lettuce section of the grocery store), and "fry" it with pan spray, add a little water to wilt it to your liking, cook until the desired tenderness...add 1-2 oz of chicken breast, 1/2 oz of turkey sausage (50), etc. You can have more or less depending on how many cals you have left for the day, but you can have quite a bit of slaw for very few cals. You can experiment, but some add LC cheese to make it creamy, etc.
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Look at the DD recipe sticky thread. There are loads and loads of ideas. Cucumber is only 4 calories per ounce and 5 oz is quite a bit. I sometimes slice cucumber (sorry Cindy) really thinly and soak it in SF rice vinegar with pink Himalayan salt. Celery is also 4 calories per ounce and again 5 oz is quite a bit. I dip it in Walter farms bacon ranch dressing. I don't use them anymore, but miracle noodles helped in the beginning and there are tons of ways to prepare them in the DD recipe sticky thread. I'll bump another helpful thread or 2 in a bit.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:06 PM   #96
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Thank you so much Librarygirl & Carly! I have looked at some of the DD recipes already for some ideas and have the shiratake noodles and eat the veggies as well, I just may need to get a little more protein in at each small meal.You all are the best!
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OOps, I was wrong on the cals for turkey sausage. 2 oz is 100 cals, so 1/2 oz would be 25. Even better! I know there's a sticky for DD recipes, and I frequently send ppl there, but sometimes you need to know *right now*! I hope some of these ideas helped!

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Sounds as if everyone is getting all the advice they need.

We usually recommend the 'no exercise' option. When you think how human calorie consumption has changed over the last 100/150 years, what our grandparents considered normal life we are inclined to think of as exercise.

When did any of us last need to clean our homes or wash our clothes without electrical appliances? And transport has altered beyond all imagining. I always walked to school as a child and came home and back at lunchtime each day. No one thought of that as 'exercise'....
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Thats true Cindy, when I was young and lived in the countryside I walked and cycled everywhere. I never though of it as exercise it was a walk to the shop or a cycle to visit my grandparents and I wouldn't be thinking "well I made one trip today so I don't need to do another" which I do now with exercise! I would carry potatoes and 2 liter bottles of soda on the back of the bike too and fell off a few times due to uneven weight at one side lol. Ahhh such fond memories Well speaking of excercise, I went for a nice walk with OH yesterday evening. A 3.8km stroll it's a health walk in the town and they have also put in an outdoor gym which is lovely so I had some fun messing with all the things there. Just wish we had better weather so I could use it more often. I'm trying to strengthen my calf muscle because I tore part of it on holidays (long story) but ended up in a Munich hospital in quiet a lot of pain after being on the road since 5am (driving from Holland to Munich) and going to the hospital at 7pm because I couldn't stand the pain. But it's well on the mend now but I'm being careful not to damage it again. Oh boy I've blabbered on enough!!
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I'll agree with the others and say anything with lots of protein does best at curbing my appetite. But more important for me is to stay away from sugar! Sugar begets sugar and it's all downhill has soon as I have a little bite of something sweet. Also, regardless of sugar content, some foods are just going to make you hungrier than before you ate them. That's probably somewhat different for everyone.
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Yes Suzy, many of us avoid sugary things on DDs for that very reason, one is never enough.
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I'm realizing I'd really like to have a small group of JUDDDers that I can check in with every day. Should I use this thread for that, or start a new group? Anyone want to join?

So yesterday was my first DD and it went really well! Total calories was 437 after vitamins and a couple pieces of pepperoni (plus coffee/half&half, and 2 shakes w/berries). And I had some GREAT dreams last night! I remember when I was on another VLCD I would have some crazy vivid dreams. That will be something to look forward to
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If you are happy here it is a good place to hang around for a while. Each month we start a new Newbies thread and although we pop back to answer questions and offer support, most folks then move on.

Of course anyone can start a fresh thread and many do. Some of the smaller threads are things like the daily UD and DD 'What are you eating today' threads.

If you have an idea for a thread go ahead, I am sure you will find lots of like minds.

Glad your dreams were fun, lol.
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So I have to pick your brain and ask what you ate today that kept you so satisfied? My stomach feels hungry all day from about 11:00 on after i've had my coffee with cream. The small meals don't stick with me long, but i make it through and go to bed early since i'm so hungry so i won't be tempted to eat and dream about what i get to eat the next day!

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Cyndi--Here is what I ate yesterday:

coffee w/2 TBSP liquid creamer
2 mugs caffeine-free tea (Mint Medley by Bigelow)
Special K strawberry shake
1 mug cafeine-free tea (Mint Medley by Bigelow)
2 pks Lipton Chicken Noodle cup-a-soup

I came in at 350 calories. The key for me is to wait until noon or after to start "eating"--and there's no actual food involved--mostly liquid diet. It's what seems to work for me to make it through the day.
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Does anyone know how often we need to reassess our calorie requirements via Dr. J's calculator? Every 10 lbs, 20lbs? Maybe it doesn't make a big difference? Thanks
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As a general rule we say, stick to the numbers you are using until they stop working. Of course you can choose any time to alter them if you prefer, but most of us are reluctant to give up calories unless we have to...
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Does anyone know how often we need to reassess our calorie requirements via Dr. J's calculator? Every 10 lbs, 20lbs? Maybe it doesn't make a big difference? Thanks
What Kissa said! I tried to reduce cals (via the calculator) around 25ish# down and stalled. When I went back to my original numbers, I started losing again. I'm down over 50# now at those original numbers...and even over.

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Melinda, did I spot a new low for you over on the June Daily Weigh In thread? Congratulations lady.
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Melinda, did I spot a new low for you over on the June Daily Weigh In thread? Congratulations lady.
Yes!!! THANKS sweet friend!!!! You & the other JBs are certainly what keeps me going! If it weren't for you maintainers that faithfully show up and encourage people, I would never have tried this plan. I'm right at my south beach lows and have ZERO desire to sabotage like I always do on that plan. I am OVER THE MOON that I might be able to do maintenance for once! you sweet JBs!!!!
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So close to goal you must be smelling it now. And Maintaining with JUDDD is a total delight.
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haha! I am just planning a smaller goal to try now. It is just for fun, though at this point. I am just so happy to be where I am. Going lower is a pipe dream!
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Cyndi--Here is what I ate yesterday:

coffee w/2 TBSP liquid creamer
2 mugs caffeine-free tea (Mint Medley by Bigelow)
Special K strawberry shake
1 mug cafeine-free tea (Mint Medley by Bigelow)
2 pks Lipton Chicken Noodle cup-a-soup

I came in at 350 calories. The key for me is to wait until noon or after to start "eating"--and there's no actual food involved--mostly liquid diet. It's what seems to work for me to make it through the day.
Thanks Debbie! I never thought of the Lipton cup a soup, all the broth would probably be very filling. what are the calories & protein on the special K shakes?

Sorry to sound like a broken record but does anyone here do their DD on Monday, Wednesday & Friday every week with weekends off???
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Thank you for all the nice welcomes! Yeah, 2000 *might* be too high for me for an UD. But I definitely don't want to get in the same trouble as I was in February where i kept lowering my calories to lose and my body just adjusted (would have made an awesome cave person!). I'm 5'6" and 167. And I am somewhat active. When the sun is out, I easily walk 4-5 miles a day. And not sure if this matters, but my fitbit (pedometer) daily calorie burn is usually in the 2000-2300 range. If anyone wants to check my numbers to make sure I'm doing this right, I'd appreciate it. So far today, one coffee with 4 T. half&half = 80 calories
Suzy, I think you're on the right track here with trying it out. I've noticed that when my net calories (calories in - calories burned) get too low, especially when I go into the negative numbers, I stall out on the scale or even gain. It happened to me just this month. It seems like some people lose best on the no exercise numbers if they exercise, others do not, and you have to find out which you are. There is absolutely nothing wrong with trying the light exercise calories if you are exercising. Personally, I think that with that kind of calorie burn you've got it right with the light exercise calories, but you'll just have to experiment and see.

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Hi everyone!! Today is day #5...DD, and I am puttering along well. I did walk on the treadmill for 30 minutes and I had a massage this morning...ahhhhh, I love days off. I was invited out to lunch today but declined, on a DD I'm not sure how I would do yet, so maybe in the future I will. I know there is a range of calorie ratios I could go with but I don't want to do that yet being this is my first week. So I decided I am going to weigh after my DD Monday morning and that will be my official week #1 weigh in I am really liking this WOE.

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Thanks Debbie! I never thought of the Lipton cup a soup, all the broth would probably be very filling. what are the calories & protein on the special K shakes?

Sorry to sound like a broken record but does anyone here do their DD on Monday, Wednesday & Friday every week with weekends off???
Cyndi--

The Special K shakes are 180 calories with 10 protein grams. I also love the Slim-Fast Creamy Chocolate shake which are also 180 calories but have 20 protein grams.

The broth is definitely very filling for dinner, especially if you drink 2 at once like I did yesterday....I am thinking one will be enough on my next DD.
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Sorry to sound like a broken record but does anyone here do their DD on Monday, Wednesday & Friday every week with weekends off???
Beebop I do a version of this where my Sunday is a MD. It's worked great for me so far, even though I've switched it up and gone back to regular EOD when I need to change my schedule.

And I believe DeltaBoy does his own version where he does M-T-Thurs-F as DD's and then has Saturday, Sunday and Wednesday as UD's.
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First UD competed. That was kinda fun. For the first time in a LONG time, I ate pretty much whatever I wanted and didn't feel guilty or worried about it. Total cals= 1967, just under goal of 2000. And I did supposedly earn 192 extra calories for exercise (which I didn't eat) so I hope 1967 is good. Still feels like it should be lower because I'm sure my RMR must be on the low side for my size/age. I guess I'll give it a little time and see what happens. If the pounds don't start coming off, I just might go get my RMR measured to take some of the guess work out. I called one place and they wanted $500...too much. Anyone ever get that done?
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Thanks Debbie & DeeDee!
Debbie I bought the lipton cup a soup tonight and will try that on my next down day, thanks!

DeeDee, I may wait until I see more weight loss results before I decide to try the M,W,F DD and then see if it continues to work, would still like to see if anyone else does this? Thanks for the info. My fathers day may end up being a medium day because we are taking my hubby out for dinner.
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First UD competed. That was kinda fun. For the first time in a LONG time, I ate pretty much whatever I wanted and didn't feel guilty or worried about it. Total cals= 1967, just under goal of 2000. And I did supposedly earn 192 extra calories for exercise (which I didn't eat) so I hope 1967 is good. Still feels like it should be lower because I'm sure my RMR must be on the low side for my size/age. I guess I'll give it a little time and see what happens. If the pounds don't start coming off, I just might go get my RMR measured to take some of the guess work out. I called one place and they wanted $500...too much. Anyone ever get that done?
What you need to keep in mind is that the UD number is NOT your RMR. It's designed to be higher than RMR for a reason. You need to have a big enough swing to take yourself out of the stress response caused by the very low calorie DDs. Even when doing a low calorie "every day" diet, you should be eating above your RMR, or you will cause metabolic slow-down. Your deficit comes from the DDs, and that's one of the beautiful things about JUDDD--that you can eat fairly normally on your UDs. I also think that's what helps heal some of our "broken" metabolisms.

ETA: Did you get the 2000 number from the calculator? Looking at your stats, I wonder if that's accurate for you. I weigh fairly close to what you weigh, and only get 1750 for UDs, but I may be older than you. That may negate what I said above, lol.
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